IRC log of musicbrainz on 2003-08-07
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- 13:35:55 [elinenbe]
- hello
- 13:35:59 [elinenbe]
- is anyone here?
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- 16:41:22 [soccos]
- anyone following the alias thread?
- 16:43:40 [dvtoo]
- I started it =)
- 16:48:09 [soccos]
- in the schema I wrote you could attach an alias to an object (e.g. Release, Recording...)
- 16:48:36 [soccos]
- and there was a single 'real name' for the person
- 16:48:36 [dvtoo]
- oh?
- 16:48:49 [soccos]
- but I'm out of touch with the mb schema atm
- 16:49:16 [soccos]
- still seems like a working model to me though
- 16:49:28 [soccos]
- there are people, aliases and roles
- 16:49:44 [soccos]
- and a role can be played by an alias
- 16:49:55 [dvtoo]
- it's an iffy problem, not sure if it really crops up enoguh to convince anyone to do the work to make it fit
- 16:50:09 [dvtoo]
- was thinking I might poke djce about it later
- 16:50:11 [soccos]
- to make the implementation simpler you could always have an alias which is the real name
- 16:50:34 [soccos]
- then you only need to join on the alias table
- 16:51:57 [soccos]
- this would then work for *any* role
- 16:52:14 [soccos]
- e.g. produced by, engineered by etc.
- 16:52:42 [dvtoo]
- sounds like a pretty major change in the existing schema though, no?
- 16:52:49 [dvtoo]
- I haven't looked at the MB schema
- 16:53:30 [soccos]
- not really, although *any* schema change is difficult atm
- 16:58:36 [dvtoo]
- can talk to djce about it when he shows up, I'm sure he'd know =)
- 17:00:53 [soccos]
- * soccos drops thoughts into the wiki
- 17:01:14 [dvtoo]
- hrm, I should find that and read through it
- 17:01:37 [dvtoo]
- oh, that was hard to find =)
- 17:02:11 [soccos]
- I'll post the url into the thread when I'm done
- 17:02:48 [dvtoo]
- great
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- 18:24:44 [ruaok]
- hey hey, baking boy!
- 18:25:01 [ruaok]
- * ruaok loves the AC in his office
- 18:25:20 [djce]
- * djce is envious
- 18:25:36 [ruaok]
- Its really important here.
- 18:26:06 [ruaok]
- I've decided to blow off all responsibilities today and hack on mb_tagger like a madman.
- 18:26:12 [ruaok]
- brb
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- 18:26:40 [ruaok]
- of course, that requires I reboot to windoze. :-(
- 18:26:48 [djce]
- too bad.
- 18:27:02 [djce]
- you need someone to buy you a VMWare license.
- 18:27:52 [ruaok]
- And a faster machine that can handle that.
- 18:28:48 [ruaok]
- The proper solution is to write xplatform software that doesn't need much work on a windows box.
- 18:29:02 [djce]
- * djce watches that space
- 18:29:46 [ruaok]
- * ruaok wonders if djce knows that a watched space never boils
- 18:29:52 [djce]
- sorry :-)
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- * djce stops watching it
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- * djce is away: I'm busy
- 19:47:02 [ruaok]
- Cool. zim and bender will get proper reverse DNS soon.
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- 21:04:18 [ruaok]
- reverse DNS for bender has percolated for me already. Yeay!
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- * djce is back (gone 02:05:44)
- 21:46:30 [elinenbe]
- is anyone here?
- 21:46:36 [alus]
- indeed
- 21:47:23 [ruaok]
- present!
- 21:47:24 [elinenbe]
- would you perhaps know where I can get a windows build of 1.1.0?
- 21:47:38 [ruaok]
- libmusicbrainz 1.1.0??
- 21:49:18 [ruaok]
- ftp://ftp.musicbrainz.org/pub/musicbrainz/musicbrainz_api-1.1.0.zip
- 21:49:48 [elinenbe]
- no, ftp://ftp.musicbrainz.org/pub/musicbrainz/musicbrainz-1.1.0.zip
- 21:50:26 [ruaok]
- no what??
- 21:50:38 [ruaok]
- The first one is the API/dll build
- 21:50:42 [ruaok]
- the latter is the source code.
- 21:50:58 [ruaok]
- There are no other 1.1.0 things for 1.1.0
- 21:51:35 [elinenbe]
- well, I would like the latest build of the client.
- 21:52:21 [ruaok]
- build? Source or .dll/.lib ?
- 21:53:07 [ruaok]
- Either way, they are all here:
- 21:53:08 [ruaok]
- http://musicbrainz.org/products/client/download.html
- 21:53:49 [elinenbe]
- is there anything better with the 1.1.0 api?
- 21:54:30 [ruaok]
- yes, 2.0.2 is better than 1.1.0
- 21:56:19 [elinenbe]
- How can I run the latest windows client? Just install the version .9 and then do what?
- 21:56:20 [alus]
- so 1.1.0 has negative betterness
- 21:59:19 [ruaok]
- I think you want the MusicBrainz Tagger.
- 21:59:29 [ruaok]
- The 'client' is a programmers library.
- 21:59:47 [ruaok]
- The latest tagger is 0.9.0 -- just download it, install it and follow the instructions.
- 21:59:53 [ruaok]
- Make sure you read the tutorial.
- 22:01:24 [djce]
- 11pm, and the temperature is now sensible. ish.
- 22:01:46 [djce]
- * djce roasts quietly
- 22:02:45 [ruaok]
- 27C?
- 22:02:49 [ruaok]
- 22C?
- 22:03:14 [ruaok]
- * ruaok slaps himself for forgetting a number of needed functions from the libtp interface...
- 22:04:57 [ruaok]
- Did you know that slow roast geeks taste better than flash friend geeks?
- 22:05:50 [djce]
- about 22 I think.
- 22:06:00 [djce]
- but rather warmer here in the 'puter room.
- 22:06:27 [djce]
- * djce tinkers more with Sql.pm
- 22:07:19 [ruaok]
- as icepick said: laptop + wifi + cool drink + porch = heaven
- 22:08:32 [djce]
- I can do a cool drink. I lack the rest.
- 22:10:05 [ruaok]
- Not even a porch, eh? Do you live in a flat?
- 22:10:25 [djce]
- just a bog-standard semi-detached house, on a slight hill.
- 22:12:19 [ruaok]
- * ruaok has a hard time picturing it
- 22:12:40 [Necronom]
- Oi. A porch would be nice.
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- 22:58:45 [djce]
- Hmmm, here's a weird one for someone to solve...
- 22:58:57 [djce]
- When I tail my access.log on my dev box here,
- 22:59:04 [djce]
- then request any showartist.html page,
- 22:59:12 [djce]
- the browser requests it twice.
- 22:59:18 [djce]
- Not so for other pages.
- 22:59:31 [djce]
- Answers on a postcode (or e-mail, or IRC) please. :-)
- 22:59:39 [RJ]
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- 23:01:55 [djce]
- That's in Mozilla, btw. Doesn't do it in Konqueror nor lynx.
- 23:02:06 [djce]
- weird....
- 23:02:06 [ruaok]
- trippy.
- 23:02:32 [djce]
- on the second request, the "Referer" is the same url as the page itself.
- 23:02:54 [ruaok]
- maybe its time to stop using mozilla. :-)
- 23:03:05 [ruaok]
- galeon is my fav. But that is mostly mozilla anyway
- 23:03:11 [djce]
- something weird going on, that's for sure.
- 23:03:24 [alus]
- anyone here dealt with ogg tags on a byte level?
- 23:03:40 [djce]
- * djce is away: brb
- 23:03:55 [ruaok]
- define byte level?
- 23:04:08 [ruaok]
- As in reading a file using file io and not the ogg libs?
- 23:04:16 [alus]
- right
- 23:04:23 [ruaok]
- Don't do it.
- 23:04:26 [alus]
- writing, specifically
- 23:04:38 [ruaok]
- why not use the libs?
- 23:04:45 [alus]
- I got the reading part down - my question is on generating checksums
- 23:05:01 [ruaok]
- sorry, I can't help you there...
- 23:05:20 [alus]
- because the perl module for interfacing with the libs doesn't run on activestate
- 23:05:34 [alus]
- so I was trying to flesh-out the pure perl version
- 23:06:02 [dvtoo]
- I'd fix them so they worked in activestate, before I did that
- 23:06:17 [alus]
- but see I have much less of an idea how to do that
- 23:06:30 [alus]
- inline c and all that
- 23:07:35 [djce]
- * djce is back (gone 00:03:55)
- 23:07:51 [djce]
- Working with Perl on Win32 is such a PITA. I feel sorry for you.
- 23:08:10 [djce]
- All that good code out there on CPAN,
- 23:08:21 [djce]
- and anything that requires a C compiler is out of bounds. :-(
- 23:08:28 [alus]
- * alus nods
- 23:08:43 [djce]
- been there, done that. Not going back!
- 23:09:49 [ruaok]
- * ruaok smiles
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- 23:31:47 [djce]
- ok, the weirdness gets worse. check out this rather minimal test case.
- 23:31:56 [djce]
- <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="/brainz.css">
- 23:31:56 [djce]
- <form action="foo.html" method="get">
- 23:31:56 [djce]
- <input type="image" src="/images/paypal.gif" >
- 23:31:56 [djce]
- </form>
- 23:32:17 [djce]
- save that whole document as anything.html in htdocs. Request it in Mozilla. It requests it twice.
- 23:32:18 [djce]
- spooky.
- 23:32:37 [djce]
- getting rid of the link, the form, or the input makes the duplicate go away.
- 23:33:49 [ruaok]
- spooky.
- 23:33:55 [ruaok]
- Maybe time to report a moz bug?
- 23:34:20 [djce]
- maybe. tomorrow.
- 23:34:39 [djce]
- oh well, something to look forward to...
- 23:34:45 [djce]
- night!
- 23:35:03 [ruaok]
- nite
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- 23:39:25 [ruaok]
- yay! The main mb_tagger module now compiles.
- 23:39:42 [ruaok]
- I only have to hammer on 8 support modules and we're off for a new test.
- 23:43:21 [dvtoo]
- yay!
- 23:47:42 [Mutiny]
- huzzah!