IRC log of musicbrainz on 2003-09-26

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* yalaforge is away: I'm busy
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19:08:15 [djce]
Yay. Chatlogs Vhost set up. Lots of funky redirect rules in place :-)
19:08:47 [djce]
I just need to merge the two sets of logs for yesterday now.
19:13:29 [duncf]
* duncf hates apache
19:13:37 [djce]
still?
19:13:44 [djce]
still segfaulting?
19:13:49 [djce]
or hate for another reason?
19:13:54 [duncf]
* duncf and apache are in a little bit of a disagreement over whether or not apache should always segfault
19:14:04 [ruaok]
djce: looks nice
19:14:08 [djce]
Let's hold a vote! ;-)
19:14:20 [ruaok]
duncf: did you follow the compile instructions in the mb_server/INSTALL.txt file??
19:14:34 [duncf]
yeah... I havent spent a lot of time working on it with school and everything, but i think its something messed up with my mod_perl
19:14:37 [duncf]
ruaok: yes
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:-(
19:15:00 [duncf]
i'm trying apache2 right now for "fun"
19:15:06 [djce]
you tried disable-rule=expat?
19:15:16 [duncf]
i might just download from source instead of using the debian patches and stuff
19:15:36 [djce]
I pretty much always do so, for Apache, Perl and mod_perl.
19:15:50 [djce]
Mine here are source-built, as is the MB server.
19:16:26 [ruaok]
I totally agree with djce on this one.
19:16:36 [ruaok]
all things apache are always built from sourcc.
19:18:14 [djce]
* djce wonders why MBChatLogger logs as RDF too
19:18:54 [djce]
ruaok: I know it's naughty, but I'd like to restructure the IRC logs in CVS
19:19:04 [djce]
i.e. dive into /var/cvs and move stuff about
19:19:05 [duncf]
MBChatLogger: Why do you log as RDF too?
19:19:05 [duncf]
I'm logging. Sorry, nothing found for 'Why do you log as RDF too'
19:19:16 [djce]
see, even it doesn't know
19:19:20 [duncf]
:-)
19:19:41 [ruaok]
djce: just be careful, ok?
19:19:53 [djce]
we've got backups, right? ;-) of course
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bye all
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19:25:14 [djce]
ruaok: all done with mucking about in CVS. I'm just verifying that irc-logs checks out ok.
19:29:50 [djce]
which it does.
19:32:03 [ruaok]
cool.
19:32:50 [djce]
All we need now is a funky calendar thing to allow you to browse....
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or not. :-)
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19:46:40 [ruaok]
Mmmm. Food.
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19:48:46 [djce]
good idea.
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21:48:56 [ruaok]
hey StupidMop!
21:49:01 [StupidMop]
Hello :-)
21:49:01 [ruaok]
Did that bug ever reappear??
21:49:11 [StupidMop]
nope! :-
21:49:23 [StupidMop]
...so wierd...
21:49:36 [StupidMop]
Dave probably scared it away
21:50:04 [ruaok]
Its probably since you moderated one of them... my guess anyway.
21:51:04 [StupidMop]
it's wierd because i've looked up 400 or so CDs and that was the only disc to ever give me an issue
21:52:03 [ruaok]
too strange.
21:52:18 [ruaok]
if you ever see something like that again, don't moderate anything and grab us so we can check it out.
21:52:45 [StupidMop]
you bet! :-D
21:53:49 [StupidMop]
non-programing question, but it's a good one: HOw would you convince someone to use MusicBrainz instead of CDDB?
21:54:19 [icepick]
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21:56:41 [ruaok]
Two reasons:
21:56:58 [ruaok]
1. We have higer quality data because we have a community that cares about cleaning the data.
21:57:12 [ruaok]
2. We have various artist albums where each artist on the album is properly identified.
21:57:28 [ruaok]
As opposed to cheaply glomming both artist and track name into one field.
21:59:36 [StupidMop]
and don't forget that it's much cheaper as well!
22:00:40 [StupidMop]
as for number 2 : apperently CDDB(or CDDB2) has a field to use for artists on a track level, but people don't always take advantage of it..
22:01:03 [ruaok]
StupidMop: ah, I see they are still not being consistent with their data.
22:01:06 [ruaok]
Loosers.
22:01:09 [ruaok]
:-)
22:03:32 [StupidMop]
there is this software i use, and I love it.....I just wish the author would switch over to freedb or musicbrainz....
22:03:54 [StupidMop]
..since 1/3 of my CDs are compilations, it would be great if more of those came out with the artists...
22:04:22 [ruaok]
which software??
22:05:49 [StupidMop]
it's called CDTrustee from www.base40.com
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22:06:04 [StupidMop]
it catalogs CDs and puts them into a MS Access database...
22:06:25 [StupidMop]
i tried writing my own in perl a while ago, but this is much better
22:07:18 [StupidMop]
if he could change from CDDB2 to MusicBrainz .... then from MS Access to mySQL.... WHoa!...
22:08:14 [StupidMop]
i think he uses MS Access because it's easier for people to write reports off of the data..
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22:56:41 [verus]
what does everyone use as a gui - mp3 tag editor/renamer?
22:56:45 [verus]
easytag is getting kind of buggy
23:04:14 [ruaok]
mb tagger :-)
23:07:52 [verus]
does it have this:
23:08:00 [verus]
fill tags from file name, and rename file based on tag
23:08:32 [verus]
so if a file is like this Artist_-_Album_-_01_-_title, you could do %a_-_%b_-_%n_-_%t
23:18:04 [ruaok]
Yep.
23:18:22 [ruaok]
It has two different file specs -- one for single artist album tracks and one for various artist album tracks.
23:18:45 [verus]
damn
23:18:48 [verus]
i want that
23:19:31 [ruaok]
It works really well too. :-)
23:19:37 [ruaok]
Now that I got the bugs hammered out.
23:19:48 [ruaok]
BUt all this is in libtunepimp which works great under linux
23:19:49 [verus]
can it wark in wine or winex
23:19:52 [ruaok]
just needs a UI.
23:20:11 [ruaok]
I don't thing it does, but someone else just asked that same q
23:20:15 [verus]
a G-UI =]
23:34:17 [ruaok]
the MB tagger also has an autosave feature.
23:34:32 [ruaok]
If a track is abover a user defined similarity its automatically saved.
23:34:39 [ruaok]
MBChatLogger: off
23:35:20 [ruaok]
quite nice. :-)
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23:49:06 [verus]
haha
23:49:07 [verus]
thats awesome