IRC log of musicbrainz on 2003-12-19
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- 00:04:34 [ruaok]
- djce: it is up, but I haven't been able to nail down why I'm getting those errors.
- 00:04:41 [djce]
- :-(
- 00:04:51 [ruaok]
- Can't call method "handle_request" on an undefined value at /var/website/musicbrainz/prod/mb_server/cgi-bin/MusicBrainz/Server/Mason.pm line 189.
- 00:05:05 [ruaok]
- $ah is undefined at that point.
- 00:05:43 [djce]
- complete stop and start of apache required?
- 00:06:05 [ruaok]
- doesn;t help much.
- 00:06:19 [ruaok]
- restart complete.
- 00:09:25 [ruaok]
- * ruaok can't wait for the 1GB for test to arrive
- 00:15:01 [djce]
- taaz: permissions changed
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- 00:29:07 [taaz]
- djce: thanks
- 00:29:20 [djce]
- you're welcome
- 00:30:00 [taaz]
- why the password thing?
- 00:30:08 [djce]
- to stop spammer spidering
- 00:30:13 [taaz]
- ah..
- 00:30:34 [djce]
- We use the same technique on www.mb.org/usage
- 00:33:52 [Knio]
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- 00:38:08 [ruaok]
- djce: what do you think about the 'must have a moderation note for add non-album track or we won't accept it' feature?
- 00:38:13 [ruaok]
- I think its necessary.
- 00:39:14 [djce]
- I wouldn't object.
- 00:39:46 [ruaok]
- where should that go?
- 00:39:51 [djce]
- I'd suggest that it should be strongly encouraged that the note should contain a URL with "evidence" if at all possible.
- 00:40:16 [djce]
- anyway, g'nite!
- 00:40:16 [ruaok]
- good idea.
- 00:40:21 [ruaok]
- one sec.
- 00:40:27 [djce]
- * djce waits
- 00:40:37 [ruaok]
- this new features -- on a branch or on the trunk?
- 00:40:54 [ruaok]
- I'm about to create the PermanentLinks branch as well.
- 00:41:05 [ruaok]
- Should I just stuff it in there as well?
- 00:41:11 [djce]
- what new features, sorry?
- 00:41:13 [ruaok]
- They are not related but both minor changes.
- 00:41:22 [ruaok]
- The must have note/url for non alubm tracks.
- 00:41:23 [djce]
- notes for NAT-adds?
- 00:41:27 [ruaok]
- ya
- 00:41:34 [djce]
- sounds small... trunk is probably ok
- 00:41:37 [ruaok]
- ok
- 00:41:39 [ruaok]
- g'niute
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- 03:54:29 [kyleboon]
- is it possible to see the percentage of mods voted on for artists that have subscribers, vrs artists that dont?
- 03:54:43 [kyleboon]
- I think that would be an interesting stat
- 03:56:01 [ruaok]
- I'm sure it is. Ask djce about it. I'm sure he'd be glad to run that query for you.
- 03:56:05 [ruaok]
- * ruaok smirks
- 03:56:19 [kyleboon]
- heh
- 03:56:48 [kyleboon]
- i was just thinking it might provide some insight to the whole voting debate
- 03:57:23 [ruaok]
- I agree with that.
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- 17:31:16 [danbri]
- <DanC> cool...
- 17:31:16 [danbri]
- <DanC> <http://musicbrainz.org/album/3eda2264-a2eb-408a-b65b-c74aeddf2b80> a :Album;
- 17:31:16 [danbri]
- <DanC> hmm... how do I get the list of tracks in RDF?
- 17:31:16 [danbri]
- <danbri> logger, pointer?
- 17:31:16 [danbri]
- <logger> See http://www.ilrt.bris.ac.uk/discovery/chatlogs/rdfig/2003-12-19#T17-31-02
- 17:31:18 [danbri]
- from #rdfig
- 17:31:27 [danbri]
- can anyone point danc in right direction?
- 17:31:30 [danbri]
- hi btw
- 17:31:35 [danbri]
- * danbri owes mail re MB schema
- 17:35:07 [yalaforge]
- so you want the tracklist if you have the albumid, right?
- 17:39:11 [yalaforge]
- danbri: still here?
- 17:39:13 [danbri]
- yup
- 17:39:58 [yalaforge]
- how do you want to access musicbrainz? via the C library, or creating your own query via HTTP?
- 17:41:53 [danbri]
- HTTP
- 17:42:30 [yalaforge]
- ok, I'll upload an example in a minute ...
- 17:42:53 [danbri]
- oh fab, thanks :)
- 17:43:01 [yalaforge]
- oh, wait: this is a simple special case:
- 17:43:16 [yalaforge]
- http://mm.musicbrainz.org:80/mm-2.1/album/3eda2264-a2eb-408a-b65b-c74aedf2b80/4
- 17:44:46 [danbri]
- I don't quite follow
- 17:44:52 [rjmunro]
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- 17:45:10 [yalaforge]
- all you have to do is a GET on http://mm.musicbrainz.org:80/mm-2.1/album/3eda2264-a2eb-408a-b65b-c74aeddf2b80/4
- 17:45:37 [yalaforge]
- try it using wget
- 17:46:43 [rjmunro]
- I've moved my "Survival of the fittest" stuff to it's own wiki page. http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/wiki.pl?SurvivalOfTheFittest
- 17:47:19 [yalaforge]
- * yalaforge is going to read it later
- 17:47:19 [danbri]
- yr first url was a bit truncated, missing 1 char. works now!
- 17:47:30 [yalaforge]
- danbri: cool
- 17:47:36 [danbri]
- so given an albumid, how do I derrive this url?
- 17:48:02 [danbri]
- <DanC> . http://www.musicbrainz.org/showalbum.html?albumid=170974
- 17:48:10 [danbri]
- ...that kind of album id...
- 17:48:22 [danbri]
- is 3eda2264-a2eb-408a-b65b-c74aeddf2b80/4 the real albumid?
- 17:48:27 [yalaforge]
- this is a bit of a problem because this 'albumid' is a rowid of our database
- 17:48:29 [danbri]
- MBChatLogger, pointer?
- 17:48:29 [MBChatLogger]
- There is no log URI
- 17:48:39 [danbri]
- is this chat online anywhere?
- 17:48:58 [yalaforge]
- yes: http://chatlogs.musicbrainz.org
- 17:49:52 [yalaforge]
- hm, I don't think there is a possibility to translate rowids to GUIDs. But the linking of the the website is going to change soon
- 17:50:05 [yalaforge]
- I heard we'll be using GUIDs exclusively
- 17:51:16 [danbri]
- how are the guids derrived? assigned when a new record is added? or a function of track info?
- 17:52:03 [yalaforge]
- a GUID is a "globally unique id". anyone can generate them an it is still unique. It is 128 bits long
- 17:52:14 [yalaforge]
- a GUID is generated when an artist/album/track is created
- 17:52:37 [yalaforge]
- after creation it won't change
- 17:53:06 [danbri]
- ah ok, they're literally guids, sorry
- 17:53:37 [danbri]
- * danbri toys with asking about how records are merged together but should go do some other work first...
- 17:54:10 [yalaforge]
- when two artists are merged, the target artist's GUID is discarded
- 17:54:23 [yalaforge]
- err, source artist, of course
- 17:54:48 [yalaforge]
- ok, time for dinner. I'll be back in 30 min
- 17:54:52 [yalaforge]
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- 18:30:18 [rjmunro]
- Does anyone have an opinion on survival of the fittest style moderation?
- 18:30:47 [yalaforge]
- * yalaforge has started reading a minute ago
- 18:39:06 [ruaok]
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- 18:39:21 [ruaok]
- danbri: hi there!
- 18:39:31 [ruaok]
- morning, evening everyone!
- 18:40:02 [ruaok]
- * ruaok digs through the deluge of mb-users mail
- 18:40:05 [yalaforge]
- morning!
- 18:40:16 [yalaforge]
- no fun, really
- 18:40:26 [ruaok]
- uh oh. what's up?
- 18:40:28 [danbri]
- 'ello
- 18:40:50 [yalaforge]
- ruaok: nothing, it's just a lot. but nothing outstanding IMHO
- 18:41:09 [ruaok]
- danbri: RJ and I were thinking of how to best express a musicaly collection and musical taste in RDF/FOAF.
- 18:41:24 [ruaok]
- yalaforge: ok.
- 18:41:32 [danbri]
- do you have anything drafted? folks in #rdfig and #foaf might have a view...
- 18:41:41 [danbri]
- also Joshua Cohen was asking similar on www-rdf-interest this week
- 18:41:48 [ruaok]
- yalaforge: I now have two branches with new features in them... New concept for me...
- 18:41:48 [danbri]
- * danbri snowed under or might've chimed in already
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- 18:42:13 [ruaok]
- danbri: no, we haven't done anything on that front yet.
- 18:42:24 [rjmunro]
- ruaok: What do you think of http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/wiki.pl?SurvivalOfTheFittest
- 18:42:38 [ruaok]
- Russss: good timing. I was just chatting up danbri about the FOAF music profile representation
- 18:43:00 [ruaok]
- rjmunro: I haven't read it yet -- I'll take a look in a bit.
- 18:43:24 [rjmunro]
- I'll be back in about 15 mins...
- 18:43:25 [RJ]
- we're in the process of setting up eRserver so the site is down at the mo. i'll try and arrange some draft RDF for the profile soon
- 18:43:26 [ruaok]
- danbri: mainly I wanted to see if you guys had already done anything on that front yet.
- 18:43:31 [ruaok]
- rjmunro: ok
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- 18:43:53 [danbri]
- thanks for the link... its close to advagato-ish stuff I guess. I need to catch up on some context before I can comment intelligently on this!
- 18:43:53 [ruaok]
- RJ: Ok, that sounds like a good start.
- 18:43:56 [danbri]
- can I share in #rdfig ?
- 18:43:59 [danbri]
- hmm its public
- 18:44:01 [danbri]
- * danbri shares
- 18:44:05 [ruaok]
- please!
- 18:44:08 [RJ]
- :)
- 18:44:10 [Russss]
- correction, we are in the process of swearing at erserver
- 18:44:23 [ruaok]
- Russss: :-)
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- 18:45:26 [danbri]
- done
- 18:45:35 [danbri]
- <RJ> we're in the process of setting up eRserver so the site is down at the mo. i'll try and arrange some draft RDF for the profile soon
- 18:45:37 [danbri]
- ok sounds good
- 18:45:43 [danbri]
- I should be in irc much of the xmas break
- 18:46:38 [ruaok]
- sweet. I have a number of cool ideas that can come out of copious use of musical profiles.
- 18:46:42 [ruaok]
- '
- 18:46:55 [ruaok]
- I'll blog one of the more important ones later...
- 18:47:11 [RJ]
- cool, i have a few too
- 18:47:36 [RJ]
- we'll be able to take a fair bit of traffic to any webservices we setup using our slave database
- 18:47:43 [RJ]
- if we get the bloody thing working :)
- 18:47:55 [RJ]
- danbri: great
- 19:08:31 [yalaforge]
- * yalaforge is away: to boldly go ...
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- djce is in 'da house!
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- 20:10:03 [ruaok]
- djce: are we still on for a server update tomorrow?
- 20:10:23 [djce]
- It's not really tested yet... not properly
- 20:10:35 [djce]
- we could, but it would be a higher risk than normal
- 20:10:41 [djce]
- and I haven't done a proper change log yet
- 20:10:49 [djce]
- maybe that's tonight's job...
- 20:10:54 [ruaok]
- And I've got two new branches that want to get in there...
- 20:11:21 [ruaok]
- Maybe we should roll everything into one with a changelog, bring it up on test and then bug people to come test.
- 20:11:24 [ruaok]
- ?
- 20:11:35 [ruaok]
- I know I can spend a bit of time testing more...
- 20:11:43 [djce]
- what's been added recently? in the last few days?
- 20:11:55 [ruaok]
- nothing to the trunk.
- 20:11:55 [djce]
- and what branches are still to go in?
- 20:12:07 [ruaok]
- nothing aside the NAT nazi-change.
- 20:12:26 [ruaok]
- I guess its up for debate about the two new branches making it into this release.
- 20:12:39 [ruaok]
- InlineModeration and PermanentLinks
- 20:12:44 [djce]
- ok
- 20:13:18 [djce]
- what state are those two in?
- 20:13:23 [djce]
- 100%? 95%?
- 20:13:36 [ruaok]
- coding: 100%
- 20:13:48 [djce]
- for both?
- 20:13:53 [ruaok]
- yes
- 20:14:02 [ruaok]
- but they both need more testing.
- 20:14:18 [djce]
- you've tweaked setquery.inc to do bi-directional checking on artist_relation?
- 20:14:30 [ruaok]
- and I am liable to sneak in yalaforge's suggestion of showing top voters and not top mods in the sidebar.
- 20:14:38 [yalaforge]
- * yalaforge is back (gone 01:06:07)
- 20:14:39 [ruaok]
- djce: no I haven't done that.
- 20:14:41 [yalaforge]
- cool, thanks
- 20:14:42 [djce]
- I like that idea
- 20:14:55 [ruaok]
- bidir or to voters?
- 20:15:02 [djce]
- voter panel
- 20:15:07 [ruaok]
- ok
- 20:15:23 [ruaok]
- * ruaok is scared of setquery.inc
- 20:15:34 [djce]
- bidir artist_rel /has/ to be done, IIRC, since the relationship data is kind of half-populated, if you see what I mean.
- 20:15:55 [ruaok]
- ok. I'm on it.
- 20:16:11 [djce]
- Hmm. Maybe since it's not changing, we should fill out the table to be fully populated.
- 20:16:20 [ruaok]
- Oh, for the inline moderation, we need to finish off the closed mods -> seperate table feature.
- 20:16:23 [djce]
- then a bidir wouldn't be necessary, and it would optimise nicer.
- 20:16:32 [ruaok]
- Good point.
- 20:16:37 [djce]
- yeah, that's gonna be a bit ugly.
- 20:16:42 [ruaok]
- The inline moderation is painfully slow.
- 20:16:52 [djce]
- ok, that branch is going nowhere this side of the new year I think.
- 20:16:58 [ruaok]
- When I removed all closed moderations (and their votes) it became reasonable.
- 20:17:07 [ruaok]
- :-(
- 20:17:08 [djce]
- is the permanentlinks stuff on test.mb.org?
- 20:17:18 [ruaok]
- not right this sec. gimme two minutes.
- 20:17:43 [djce]
- closed mods: that's good; it proves(ish) that splitting the table will make a BIG difference.
- 20:17:54 [djce]
- * djce gets change logging
- 20:19:34 [ruaok]
- djce: indeed!
- 20:20:29 [djce]
- quickie SQL trivia, seen from last night's chat log:
- 20:20:39 [djce]
- currently there are 6948 open mods
- 20:20:51 [djce]
- of which, 1149 are for artists with at least one subscriber
- 20:21:01 [djce]
- or 327 for at least two subscribers
- 20:21:13 [djce]
- 150 for three. etc.
- 20:21:50 [djce]
- 533 are for Various Artists, which you currently can't subscribe to.
- 20:22:14 [djce]
- so 5266 open mods are non-VA with no subscribers
- 20:22:45 [ruaok]
- WTF?
- 20:23:05 [ruaok]
- Somehow my PermanentLinks-BRANCH got fnorked.
- 20:23:16 [ruaok]
- ModDefs is no longer in the repository.
- 20:23:21 [ruaok]
- Shit, what happened?
- 20:23:28 [djce]
- that sounds bad.
- 20:23:39 [ruaok]
- Yeah.
- 20:24:08 [djce]
- just to finish off the SQL trivia for the night: the open mods with no subscribers are across 3243 different artists.
- 20:24:23 [yalaforge]
- djce: the 1149 sounds good IMHO. the subscription feature isn't this old
- 20:25:39 [djce]
- maybe artists with no subscriber could have a flashy widget saying "this artist needs a subscriber!"
- 20:25:49 [yalaforge]
- "adopt this artist" ;-)
- 20:25:59 [djce]
- or more generally, show how many users have subbed to any given artist
- 20:26:13 [yalaforge]
- that would be *very* interesting
- 20:27:32 [djce]
- * djce feels an "artistmeta" table coming on
- 20:27:34 [ruaok]
- crap. it seems that the cgi-bin and admin dirs are no longer on this branch. :-(
- 20:27:44 [ruaok]
- the htdocs dir seems fine, which is where my changes are at.
- 20:27:47 [djce]
- weird
- 20:27:54 [djce]
- which branch? PermanentLinks?
- 20:28:06 [ruaok]
- I wonder if I can create a new branch and merge just htdocs to it.
- 20:28:08 [ruaok]
- yes
- 20:28:18 [kboon]
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- 20:28:41 [ruaok]
- kboon: read the irc archive. djce just answered your question from last night.
- 20:28:57 [kboon]
- cool, where is the archive?
- 20:29:05 [djce]
- chatlogs.musicbrainz.org
- 20:29:06 [yalaforge]
- http://chatlogs.musicbrainz.org/2003/2003-12/2003-12-19.html
- 20:29:20 [ruaok]
- * ruaok is impressed by the pageslapping
- 20:29:30 [djce]
- ("pageslapping"?)
- 20:29:48 [yalaforge]
- today's chatlog is always open ;-)
- 20:30:39 [ruaok]
- pageslapping: http://joi.ito.com/archives/2003/08/10/page_slapping.html
- 20:34:25 [kboon]
- intersting
- 20:34:59 [kboon]
- it certainly seems that artits with subscribers get their mods taken care of quicker, at least on face value
- 20:37:02 [djce]
- ruaok: ah. I see your problem with PermanentLinks. Never mind, that should be easy enough to repair.
- 20:37:22 [Knio]
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- 20:37:31 [ruaok]
- djce: do tell!
- 20:37:41 [djce]
- damn :-) errr, let's see.
- 20:37:42 [djce]
- ...
- 20:37:44 [ruaok]
- * ruaok desists tinkering
- 20:38:00 [djce]
- so only htdocs has changed for this branch?
- 20:38:16 [ruaok]
- yup.
- 20:38:27 [RJ]
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- 20:38:38 [djce]
- now, will someone please tell me, why is "cvs history" so fscking shite?
- 20:38:42 [djce]
- grrr
- 20:39:05 [kboon]
- when you all were learning rdf, did you just the docs on w3c's site? or is there another really good resource
- 20:39:35 [ruaok]
- DO NOT READ THE RDF SPEC!
- 20:39:37 [djce]
- ruaok: do you do tagging with "cvs tag", or "cvs rtag" ?
- 20:39:42 [ruaok]
- It will warp your mind.
- 20:39:44 [ruaok]
- cvs tag
- 20:39:45 [kboon]
- heh
- 20:39:52 [yalaforge]
- there's a primer, I found it quite ok
- 20:39:54 [ruaok]
- there is a good RDF primer
- 20:39:57 [ruaok]
- :-)
- 20:40:14 [djce]
- Do you know roughly when you started the PermanentLinks branch?
- 20:40:19 [ruaok]
- w3.org/RDF and look for primer -- Eric Miller coauthored it.
- 20:40:20 [kboon]
- I need a way to describe/partse descriptions of fairly complex graphs. We currently have an XML schema for it, I was thinking rdf might be the way to go
- 20:40:28 [yalaforge]
- but it's rather longish, which I didn't like. So I found some RDF in 10 minutes website to give me the short story
- 20:40:30 [ruaok]
- djce: yesterday.
- 20:40:38 [ruaok]
- there should also be a ROOT point for it.
- 20:40:43 [yalaforge]
- afterwards I was prepared to read the primer ;-)
- 20:41:36 [djce]
- can I recommend using "cvs rtag" instead? mainly because it writes history entries
- 20:41:58 [ruaok]
- ok, I can do that...
- 20:42:41 [djce]
- so what do you need doing now? merging the branch to the trunk, or extending the branch to the rest of mb_server?
- 20:43:05 [ruaok]
- well, I was going to check it out so you could run it.
- 20:43:21 [ruaok]
- what do you mean by extended to the rest of mb_s?
- 20:43:38 [djce]
- apply the ROOT and BRANCH tags to mb_server/* except htdocs
- 20:44:18 [ruaok]
- So, checkout to HEAD and then cvs rtag ?
- 20:44:24 [ruaok]
- except htdocs?
- 20:44:41 [djce]
- yes, something like that. Ideally check out with yesterday's date.
- 20:45:07 [djce]
- or just leave it alone and do a pair of "cvs co" and a bit of "rm -rf ; mv" to splice the two together.
- 20:45:26 [ruaok]
- eeek. :-)
- 20:45:33 [ruaok]
- ok, I'll go tinker.
- 20:46:29 [djce]
- * djce gets diffing
- 20:48:46 [djce]
- hey. only a 10,501-line diff today. Piece o' cake.
- 20:48:56 [ruaok]
- heh.
- 20:49:31 [djce]
- Or only 5,925 without "-N"
- 20:49:34 [Knio]
- hey, do you guys use mozilla ?
- 20:49:38 [djce]
- always
- 20:49:43 [djce]
- and exclusively :-)
- 20:49:58 [yalaforge]
- * yalaforge uses galeon (which uses gecko)
- 20:50:04 [Knio]
- hmm.. I don't suppose I can make it do stuff ?
- 20:50:09 [djce]
- "do stuff"?
- 20:50:12 [Knio]
- well
- 20:50:24 [Knio]
- ie : I want it to open all new windows in tabs
- 20:50:46 [djce]
- even for target="_blank" etc?
- 20:50:51 [yalaforge]
- sure. I remember that worked
- 20:50:52 [Knio]
- yeah
- 20:51:07 [djce]
- you can right-click on links and choose "open in new tab".
- 20:51:16 [Knio]
- sure I can
- 20:51:19 [Knio]
- but that's no good
- 20:51:20 [djce]
- but that doesn't help with form submits, or window.open()
- 20:51:44 [yalaforge]
- go to Preferences/Navigator/Tabbed Browsing
- 20:51:57 [Knio]
- I tried that
- 20:52:07 [yalaforge]
- which version do you use?
- 20:52:21 [Knio]
- I jsut got it about a week ago...
- 20:52:38 [yalaforge]
- * yalaforge connects to a friend's box who has a current mozilla ...
- 20:52:41 [Knio]
- hrm.. i opened it up just now and its saying "Hey! Your copy of Mozilla is more than four weeks old."
- 20:52:47 [djce]
- you could try setting the hidden pref "browser.tabs.opentabfor.windowopen" to "true"
- 20:53:04 [djce]
- I don't know what it does, but it sounds promising
- 20:53:42 [Knio]
- hidden prefs ?
- 20:54:08 [djce]
- Type "about:config" in the address bar, and tell me what happens
- 20:54:25 [yalaforge]
- well, galeon supports this. it never opens new windows
- 20:54:26 [Knio]
- ah
- 20:54:51 [djce]
- in summary: mozilla has MANY preferences, only some of which actually have a nice window-ticky-thing to change them.
- 20:55:31 [Knio]
- ooh thanks
- 20:57:01 [djce]
- hmmm. it doesn't work though, not for me. :-(
- 20:58:01 [Knio]
- ew.. me neither :/
- 20:59:13 [djce]
- I have to say I would LOVE that feature you're after, too.
- 20:59:32 [yalaforge]
- ever tried galeon? ;-)
- 20:59:41 [antgod]
- stop
- 20:59:47 [antgod]
- oops, wrong window sorry :)
- 20:59:52 [djce]
- :-)
- 20:59:52 [Knio]
- heh
- 21:00:15 [Knio]
- I like the mouse gestures in mozilla, and how it doesn't suck like IE
- 21:00:51 [Knio]
- but its more picky about URLs :(
- 21:00:52 [djce]
- * djce checks bugzilla.mozilla.org
- 21:01:13 [Knio]
- have to go "file://c:/
- 21:01:29 [Knio]
- where ie would take "c:/"
- 21:01:37 [ruaok]
- OK, I give up.
- 21:01:42 [ruaok]
- I'm hopelessly confused.
- 21:01:45 [djce]
- cvs?
- 21:01:49 [ruaok]
- yes.
- 21:03:00 [ruaok]
- cvs -z9 update -D"Thu Dec 18 20:00:00 2003" -A
- 21:03:00 [ruaok]
- cvs -z9 update -D"Thu Dec 18 20:00:00 2003" -A
- 21:03:00 [ruaok]
- cvs -z9 update -D"Thu Dec 18 20:00:00 2003" -A
- 21:03:08 [ruaok]
- eek. just one of those.
- 21:03:17 [ruaok]
- that's how I checked my sources out.
- 21:03:21 [ruaok]
- then
- 21:03:23 [ruaok]
- cd cgi-bin
- 21:03:40 [ruaok]
- cvs -z9 tag -b PermanentLinks-BRANCH
- 21:03:45 [ruaok]
- And I get errors for:
- 21:04:11 [ruaok]
- W Album.pm : PermanentLinks-BRANCH already exists on branch 1.81 : NOT MOVING tag to branch 1.81.0.6
- 21:04:26 [ruaok]
- If there was a tag for 1.81, then why can't it check it out??
- 21:06:11 [djce]
- hmmm. Well I did the checkout-and-splice thing, and it seems to have worked:
- 21:06:18 [djce]
- http://cuthbert.rudolf.org.uk:8080/showartist.html?artistid=510
- 21:06:33 [ruaok]
- ok, but how do we fix this mess for merging in the branch?
- 21:07:14 [djce]
- as long as you're sure only htdocs has changed, we just merge mb_server/htdocs instead of mb_server
- 21:07:30 [djce]
- then run away and pretend it wasn't broken :-)
- 21:08:13 [ruaok]
- ok, I think I've got it now.
- 21:08:36 [ruaok]
- damn. my desktop pager crashed.
- 21:08:40 [djce]
- Ah, but didn't you have to change vh_httpd.conf or Handlers.pm?
- 21:08:48 [djce]
- to get /artist/GUID.html to work?
- 21:09:00 [ruaok]
- yeah....
- 21:09:10 [ruaok]
- ok, so one change outside of htdocs. :-)
- 21:19:25 [yalaforge]
- * yalaforge wonders if 22 CDs are enough for two weeks
- 21:19:41 [djce]
- I couldn't possibly eat that many
- 21:20:12 [yalaforge]
- hm. I guess I need some more :-)
- 21:21:58 [ruaok]
- OK, I really don't trust that branch much.
- 21:22:33 [ruaok]
- Let's stick to your plan of merging just the htdocs and admin/vh_http.conf when we do merge it into the trunk.
- 21:23:51 [djce]
- ok. fire away, if you're ready.
- 21:24:35 [ruaok]
- with the merge??
- 21:24:41 [ruaok]
- have you looked at the changes??
- 21:25:11 [djce]
- It seems to work (apart from vh_httpd.conf - I haven't seen that). I didn't read the diffs.
- 21:25:29 [ruaok]
- ok.
- 21:25:33 [ruaok]
- I'll go for it then.
- 21:29:14 [djce]
- don't forget those changes to finances.html / sponsors.html need to go back on the trunk.
- 21:29:37 [ruaok]
- ok.
- 21:29:56 [ruaok]
- I'm currently wondering why I can't log in on test. :-(
- 21:31:00 [ruaok]
- OK, I've had enough frustation to last me a whole day.
- 21:31:07 [ruaok]
- And I've only been up for 2 hours.
- 21:31:12 [ruaok]
- ARG!
- 21:31:17 [djce]
- bed time :-)
- 21:31:56 [ruaok]
- ok, discard that branch. go back to testing.
- 21:31:59 [ruaok]
- er merge.
- 21:32:15 [djce]
- did you log in to test.mb.org? mine worked.
- 21:32:42 [ruaok]
- no, I logged into test
- 21:32:48 [ruaok]
- vs test.mb.org
- 21:32:51 [ruaok]
- test.mb.org works.
- 21:32:53 [ruaok]
- Sigh.
- 21:32:56 [djce]
- ah.
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- 21:40:40 [ruaok]
- ok, branch merged.
- 21:41:13 [yalaforge]
- ok, it's time for me. I'll be away for about two weeks. Merry christmas and a happy new year to all of you!
- 21:41:21 [djce]
- bye!
- 21:41:25 [djce]
- happy christmas!
- 21:41:33 [yalaforge]
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- 21:41:49 [ruaok]
- Frohe Weinachten!
- 21:42:02 [ruaok]
- Und ein guten Rutsch!
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- 21:43:03 [djce]
- * djce is away: tv
- 21:54:57 [djce]
- * djce is back (gone 00:11:51)
- 21:55:27 [ruaok]
- The merge is complete.
- 21:55:40 [ruaok]
- including hv_http, finances and sponsors.
- 21:55:44 [ruaok]
- And its live on test now.
- 21:55:57 [ruaok]
- Now to hack on the top voters thing.
- 21:56:03 [ruaok]
- And then to get working on the grant. :)
- 22:04:46 [djce]
- Knio: you know that hidden pref I mentioned earlier? Try this instead:
- 22:04:59 [djce]
- browser.block.target_new_window=true
- 22:06:05 [ruaok]
- Top voters are done too.
- 22:06:09 [ruaok]
- * ruaok is away: lunch
- 22:06:13 [djce]
- That was quick.
- 22:07:27 [ruaok]
- * ruaok is back (gone 00:01:18)
- 22:07:32 [ruaok]
- cut and paste is easy. :-)
- 22:08:09 [djce]
- not hungry? :-)
- 22:28:34 [ruaok]
- not anymore. :-)
- 22:47:25 [RJ]
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- 23:07:48 [djce]
- ruaok: http://cuthbert.rudolf.org.uk:8080/news/20031219-1.html - in progress
- 23:09:38 [soccos]
- soccos (~paul@psharpe2-egw.access.nethere.net) has joined #musicbrainz
- 23:11:34 [soccos]
- anyone interested in a mb aritst search bookmarklet?
- 23:18:55 [djce]
- * djce is away: but will be back
- 23:22:19 [sbw]
- sbw (~blake@dsl093-083-182.wdc1.dsl.speakeasy.net) has joined #musicbrainz
- 23:24:48 [icepick]
- icepick is now known as icepick-away
- 23:34:39 [ruaok]
- * ruaok 's cut and paste job apparently sucked ass
- 23:36:20 [soccos]
- :)
- 23:44:22 [soccos]
- * soccos listens to summit #5
- 23:48:35 [ruaok]
- djce: top voters has been fixed. It sure helps to have a machine with a full dataset to test that one.
- 23:51:06 [ruaok]
- djce: I'll fill in my TODO section once you check that changelog in.
- 23:53:30 [rjmunro]
- rjmunro (~rjmunro@dsl213-218-238-33.as15444.net) has joined #musicbrainz
- 23:59:51 [rjmunro]
- Sorry, took rather longer to come back than expected.