IRC log of musicbrainz on 2003-12-19

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00:04:34 [ruaok]
djce: it is up, but I haven't been able to nail down why I'm getting those errors.
00:04:41 [djce]
:-(
00:04:51 [ruaok]
Can't call method "handle_request" on an undefined value at /var/website/musicbrainz/prod/mb_server/cgi-bin/MusicBrainz/Server/Mason.pm line 189.
00:05:05 [ruaok]
$ah is undefined at that point.
00:05:43 [djce]
complete stop and start of apache required?
00:06:05 [ruaok]
doesn;t help much.
00:06:19 [ruaok]
restart complete.
00:09:25 [ruaok]
* ruaok can't wait for the 1GB for test to arrive
00:15:01 [djce]
taaz: permissions changed
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00:29:07 [taaz]
djce: thanks
00:29:20 [djce]
you're welcome
00:30:00 [taaz]
why the password thing?
00:30:08 [djce]
to stop spammer spidering
00:30:13 [taaz]
ah..
00:30:34 [djce]
We use the same technique on www.mb.org/usage
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00:38:08 [ruaok]
djce: what do you think about the 'must have a moderation note for add non-album track or we won't accept it' feature?
00:38:13 [ruaok]
I think its necessary.
00:39:14 [djce]
I wouldn't object.
00:39:46 [ruaok]
where should that go?
00:39:51 [djce]
I'd suggest that it should be strongly encouraged that the note should contain a URL with "evidence" if at all possible.
00:40:16 [djce]
anyway, g'nite!
00:40:16 [ruaok]
good idea.
00:40:21 [ruaok]
one sec.
00:40:27 [djce]
* djce waits
00:40:37 [ruaok]
this new features -- on a branch or on the trunk?
00:40:54 [ruaok]
I'm about to create the PermanentLinks branch as well.
00:41:05 [ruaok]
Should I just stuff it in there as well?
00:41:11 [djce]
what new features, sorry?
00:41:13 [ruaok]
They are not related but both minor changes.
00:41:22 [ruaok]
The must have note/url for non alubm tracks.
00:41:23 [djce]
notes for NAT-adds?
00:41:27 [ruaok]
ya
00:41:34 [djce]
sounds small... trunk is probably ok
00:41:37 [ruaok]
ok
00:41:39 [ruaok]
g'niute
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03:54:29 [kyleboon]
is it possible to see the percentage of mods voted on for artists that have subscribers, vrs artists that dont?
03:54:43 [kyleboon]
I think that would be an interesting stat
03:56:01 [ruaok]
I'm sure it is. Ask djce about it. I'm sure he'd be glad to run that query for you.
03:56:05 [ruaok]
* ruaok smirks
03:56:19 [kyleboon]
heh
03:56:48 [kyleboon]
i was just thinking it might provide some insight to the whole voting debate
03:57:23 [ruaok]
I agree with that.
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17:31:16 [danbri]
<DanC> cool...
17:31:16 [danbri]
<DanC> <http://musicbrainz.org/album/3eda2264-a2eb-408a-b65b-c74aeddf2b80> a :Album;
17:31:16 [danbri]
<DanC> hmm... how do I get the list of tracks in RDF?
17:31:16 [danbri]
<danbri> logger, pointer?
17:31:16 [danbri]
<logger> See http://www.ilrt.bris.ac.uk/discovery/chatlogs/rdfig/2003-12-19#T17-31-02
17:31:18 [danbri]
from #rdfig
17:31:27 [danbri]
can anyone point danc in right direction?
17:31:30 [danbri]
hi btw
17:31:35 [danbri]
* danbri owes mail re MB schema
17:35:07 [yalaforge]
so you want the tracklist if you have the albumid, right?
17:39:11 [yalaforge]
danbri: still here?
17:39:13 [danbri]
yup
17:39:58 [yalaforge]
how do you want to access musicbrainz? via the C library, or creating your own query via HTTP?
17:41:53 [danbri]
HTTP
17:42:30 [yalaforge]
ok, I'll upload an example in a minute ...
17:42:53 [danbri]
oh fab, thanks :)
17:43:01 [yalaforge]
oh, wait: this is a simple special case:
17:43:16 [yalaforge]
http://mm.musicbrainz.org:80/mm-2.1/album/3eda2264-a2eb-408a-b65b-c74aedf2b80/4
17:44:46 [danbri]
I don't quite follow
17:44:52 [rjmunro]
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17:45:10 [yalaforge]
all you have to do is a GET on http://mm.musicbrainz.org:80/mm-2.1/album/3eda2264-a2eb-408a-b65b-c74aeddf2b80/4
17:45:37 [yalaforge]
try it using wget
17:46:43 [rjmunro]
I've moved my "Survival of the fittest" stuff to it's own wiki page. http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/wiki.pl?SurvivalOfTheFittest
17:47:19 [yalaforge]
* yalaforge is going to read it later
17:47:19 [danbri]
yr first url was a bit truncated, missing 1 char. works now!
17:47:30 [yalaforge]
danbri: cool
17:47:36 [danbri]
so given an albumid, how do I derrive this url?
17:48:02 [danbri]
<DanC> . http://www.musicbrainz.org/showalbum.html?albumid=170974
17:48:10 [danbri]
...that kind of album id...
17:48:22 [danbri]
is 3eda2264-a2eb-408a-b65b-c74aeddf2b80/4 the real albumid?
17:48:27 [yalaforge]
this is a bit of a problem because this 'albumid' is a rowid of our database
17:48:29 [danbri]
MBChatLogger, pointer?
17:48:29 [MBChatLogger]
There is no log URI
17:48:39 [danbri]
is this chat online anywhere?
17:48:58 [yalaforge]
yes: http://chatlogs.musicbrainz.org
17:49:52 [yalaforge]
hm, I don't think there is a possibility to translate rowids to GUIDs. But the linking of the the website is going to change soon
17:50:05 [yalaforge]
I heard we'll be using GUIDs exclusively
17:51:16 [danbri]
how are the guids derrived? assigned when a new record is added? or a function of track info?
17:52:03 [yalaforge]
a GUID is a "globally unique id". anyone can generate them an it is still unique. It is 128 bits long
17:52:14 [yalaforge]
a GUID is generated when an artist/album/track is created
17:52:37 [yalaforge]
after creation it won't change
17:53:06 [danbri]
ah ok, they're literally guids, sorry
17:53:37 [danbri]
* danbri toys with asking about how records are merged together but should go do some other work first...
17:54:10 [yalaforge]
when two artists are merged, the target artist's GUID is discarded
17:54:23 [yalaforge]
err, source artist, of course
17:54:48 [yalaforge]
ok, time for dinner. I'll be back in 30 min
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18:30:18 [rjmunro]
Does anyone have an opinion on survival of the fittest style moderation?
18:30:47 [yalaforge]
* yalaforge has started reading a minute ago
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18:39:21 [ruaok]
danbri: hi there!
18:39:31 [ruaok]
morning, evening everyone!
18:40:02 [ruaok]
* ruaok digs through the deluge of mb-users mail
18:40:05 [yalaforge]
morning!
18:40:16 [yalaforge]
no fun, really
18:40:26 [ruaok]
uh oh. what's up?
18:40:28 [danbri]
'ello
18:40:50 [yalaforge]
ruaok: nothing, it's just a lot. but nothing outstanding IMHO
18:41:09 [ruaok]
danbri: RJ and I were thinking of how to best express a musicaly collection and musical taste in RDF/FOAF.
18:41:24 [ruaok]
yalaforge: ok.
18:41:32 [danbri]
do you have anything drafted? folks in #rdfig and #foaf might have a view...
18:41:41 [danbri]
also Joshua Cohen was asking similar on www-rdf-interest this week
18:41:48 [ruaok]
yalaforge: I now have two branches with new features in them... New concept for me...
18:41:48 [danbri]
* danbri snowed under or might've chimed in already
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18:42:13 [ruaok]
danbri: no, we haven't done anything on that front yet.
18:42:24 [rjmunro]
ruaok: What do you think of http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/wiki.pl?SurvivalOfTheFittest
18:42:38 [ruaok]
Russss: good timing. I was just chatting up danbri about the FOAF music profile representation
18:43:00 [ruaok]
rjmunro: I haven't read it yet -- I'll take a look in a bit.
18:43:24 [rjmunro]
I'll be back in about 15 mins...
18:43:25 [RJ]
we're in the process of setting up eRserver so the site is down at the mo. i'll try and arrange some draft RDF for the profile soon
18:43:26 [ruaok]
danbri: mainly I wanted to see if you guys had already done anything on that front yet.
18:43:31 [ruaok]
rjmunro: ok
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18:43:53 [danbri]
thanks for the link... its close to advagato-ish stuff I guess. I need to catch up on some context before I can comment intelligently on this!
18:43:53 [ruaok]
RJ: Ok, that sounds like a good start.
18:43:56 [danbri]
can I share in #rdfig ?
18:43:59 [danbri]
hmm its public
18:44:01 [danbri]
* danbri shares
18:44:05 [ruaok]
please!
18:44:08 [RJ]
:)
18:44:10 [Russss]
correction, we are in the process of swearing at erserver
18:44:23 [ruaok]
Russss: :-)
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18:45:26 [danbri]
done
18:45:35 [danbri]
<RJ> we're in the process of setting up eRserver so the site is down at the mo. i'll try and arrange some draft RDF for the profile soon
18:45:37 [danbri]
ok sounds good
18:45:43 [danbri]
I should be in irc much of the xmas break
18:46:38 [ruaok]
sweet. I have a number of cool ideas that can come out of copious use of musical profiles.
18:46:42 [ruaok]
'
18:46:55 [ruaok]
I'll blog one of the more important ones later...
18:47:11 [RJ]
cool, i have a few too
18:47:36 [RJ]
we'll be able to take a fair bit of traffic to any webservices we setup using our slave database
18:47:43 [RJ]
if we get the bloody thing working :)
18:47:55 [RJ]
danbri: great
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djce is in 'da house!
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20:10:03 [ruaok]
djce: are we still on for a server update tomorrow?
20:10:23 [djce]
It's not really tested yet... not properly
20:10:35 [djce]
we could, but it would be a higher risk than normal
20:10:41 [djce]
and I haven't done a proper change log yet
20:10:49 [djce]
maybe that's tonight's job...
20:10:54 [ruaok]
And I've got two new branches that want to get in there...
20:11:21 [ruaok]
Maybe we should roll everything into one with a changelog, bring it up on test and then bug people to come test.
20:11:24 [ruaok]
?
20:11:35 [ruaok]
I know I can spend a bit of time testing more...
20:11:43 [djce]
what's been added recently? in the last few days?
20:11:55 [ruaok]
nothing to the trunk.
20:11:55 [djce]
and what branches are still to go in?
20:12:07 [ruaok]
nothing aside the NAT nazi-change.
20:12:26 [ruaok]
I guess its up for debate about the two new branches making it into this release.
20:12:39 [ruaok]
InlineModeration and PermanentLinks
20:12:44 [djce]
ok
20:13:18 [djce]
what state are those two in?
20:13:23 [djce]
100%? 95%?
20:13:36 [ruaok]
coding: 100%
20:13:48 [djce]
for both?
20:13:53 [ruaok]
yes
20:14:02 [ruaok]
but they both need more testing.
20:14:18 [djce]
you've tweaked setquery.inc to do bi-directional checking on artist_relation?
20:14:30 [ruaok]
and I am liable to sneak in yalaforge's suggestion of showing top voters and not top mods in the sidebar.
20:14:38 [yalaforge]
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20:14:39 [ruaok]
djce: no I haven't done that.
20:14:41 [yalaforge]
cool, thanks
20:14:42 [djce]
I like that idea
20:14:55 [ruaok]
bidir or to voters?
20:15:02 [djce]
voter panel
20:15:07 [ruaok]
ok
20:15:23 [ruaok]
* ruaok is scared of setquery.inc
20:15:34 [djce]
bidir artist_rel /has/ to be done, IIRC, since the relationship data is kind of half-populated, if you see what I mean.
20:15:55 [ruaok]
ok. I'm on it.
20:16:11 [djce]
Hmm. Maybe since it's not changing, we should fill out the table to be fully populated.
20:16:20 [ruaok]
Oh, for the inline moderation, we need to finish off the closed mods -> seperate table feature.
20:16:23 [djce]
then a bidir wouldn't be necessary, and it would optimise nicer.
20:16:32 [ruaok]
Good point.
20:16:37 [djce]
yeah, that's gonna be a bit ugly.
20:16:42 [ruaok]
The inline moderation is painfully slow.
20:16:52 [djce]
ok, that branch is going nowhere this side of the new year I think.
20:16:58 [ruaok]
When I removed all closed moderations (and their votes) it became reasonable.
20:17:07 [ruaok]
:-(
20:17:08 [djce]
is the permanentlinks stuff on test.mb.org?
20:17:18 [ruaok]
not right this sec. gimme two minutes.
20:17:43 [djce]
closed mods: that's good; it proves(ish) that splitting the table will make a BIG difference.
20:17:54 [djce]
* djce gets change logging
20:19:34 [ruaok]
djce: indeed!
20:20:29 [djce]
quickie SQL trivia, seen from last night's chat log:
20:20:39 [djce]
currently there are 6948 open mods
20:20:51 [djce]
of which, 1149 are for artists with at least one subscriber
20:21:01 [djce]
or 327 for at least two subscribers
20:21:13 [djce]
150 for three. etc.
20:21:50 [djce]
533 are for Various Artists, which you currently can't subscribe to.
20:22:14 [djce]
so 5266 open mods are non-VA with no subscribers
20:22:45 [ruaok]
WTF?
20:23:05 [ruaok]
Somehow my PermanentLinks-BRANCH got fnorked.
20:23:16 [ruaok]
ModDefs is no longer in the repository.
20:23:21 [ruaok]
Shit, what happened?
20:23:28 [djce]
that sounds bad.
20:23:39 [ruaok]
Yeah.
20:24:08 [djce]
just to finish off the SQL trivia for the night: the open mods with no subscribers are across 3243 different artists.
20:24:23 [yalaforge]
djce: the 1149 sounds good IMHO. the subscription feature isn't this old
20:25:39 [djce]
maybe artists with no subscriber could have a flashy widget saying "this artist needs a subscriber!"
20:25:49 [yalaforge]
"adopt this artist" ;-)
20:25:59 [djce]
or more generally, show how many users have subbed to any given artist
20:26:13 [yalaforge]
that would be *very* interesting
20:27:32 [djce]
* djce feels an "artistmeta" table coming on
20:27:34 [ruaok]
crap. it seems that the cgi-bin and admin dirs are no longer on this branch. :-(
20:27:44 [ruaok]
the htdocs dir seems fine, which is where my changes are at.
20:27:47 [djce]
weird
20:27:54 [djce]
which branch? PermanentLinks?
20:28:06 [ruaok]
I wonder if I can create a new branch and merge just htdocs to it.
20:28:08 [ruaok]
yes
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20:28:41 [ruaok]
kboon: read the irc archive. djce just answered your question from last night.
20:28:57 [kboon]
cool, where is the archive?
20:29:05 [djce]
chatlogs.musicbrainz.org
20:29:06 [yalaforge]
http://chatlogs.musicbrainz.org/2003/2003-12/2003-12-19.html
20:29:20 [ruaok]
* ruaok is impressed by the pageslapping
20:29:30 [djce]
("pageslapping"?)
20:29:48 [yalaforge]
today's chatlog is always open ;-)
20:30:39 [ruaok]
pageslapping: http://joi.ito.com/archives/2003/08/10/page_slapping.html
20:34:25 [kboon]
intersting
20:34:59 [kboon]
it certainly seems that artits with subscribers get their mods taken care of quicker, at least on face value
20:37:02 [djce]
ruaok: ah. I see your problem with PermanentLinks. Never mind, that should be easy enough to repair.
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20:37:31 [ruaok]
djce: do tell!
20:37:41 [djce]
damn :-) errr, let's see.
20:37:42 [djce]
...
20:37:44 [ruaok]
* ruaok desists tinkering
20:38:00 [djce]
so only htdocs has changed for this branch?
20:38:16 [ruaok]
yup.
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20:38:38 [djce]
now, will someone please tell me, why is "cvs history" so fscking shite?
20:38:42 [djce]
grrr
20:39:05 [kboon]
when you all were learning rdf, did you just the docs on w3c's site? or is there another really good resource
20:39:35 [ruaok]
DO NOT READ THE RDF SPEC!
20:39:37 [djce]
ruaok: do you do tagging with "cvs tag", or "cvs rtag" ?
20:39:42 [ruaok]
It will warp your mind.
20:39:44 [ruaok]
cvs tag
20:39:45 [kboon]
heh
20:39:52 [yalaforge]
there's a primer, I found it quite ok
20:39:54 [ruaok]
there is a good RDF primer
20:39:57 [ruaok]
:-)
20:40:14 [djce]
Do you know roughly when you started the PermanentLinks branch?
20:40:19 [ruaok]
w3.org/RDF and look for primer -- Eric Miller coauthored it.
20:40:20 [kboon]
I need a way to describe/partse descriptions of fairly complex graphs. We currently have an XML schema for it, I was thinking rdf might be the way to go
20:40:28 [yalaforge]
but it's rather longish, which I didn't like. So I found some RDF in 10 minutes website to give me the short story
20:40:30 [ruaok]
djce: yesterday.
20:40:38 [ruaok]
there should also be a ROOT point for it.
20:40:43 [yalaforge]
afterwards I was prepared to read the primer ;-)
20:41:36 [djce]
can I recommend using "cvs rtag" instead? mainly because it writes history entries
20:41:58 [ruaok]
ok, I can do that...
20:42:41 [djce]
so what do you need doing now? merging the branch to the trunk, or extending the branch to the rest of mb_server?
20:43:05 [ruaok]
well, I was going to check it out so you could run it.
20:43:21 [ruaok]
what do you mean by extended to the rest of mb_s?
20:43:38 [djce]
apply the ROOT and BRANCH tags to mb_server/* except htdocs
20:44:18 [ruaok]
So, checkout to HEAD and then cvs rtag ?
20:44:24 [ruaok]
except htdocs?
20:44:41 [djce]
yes, something like that. Ideally check out with yesterday's date.
20:45:07 [djce]
or just leave it alone and do a pair of "cvs co" and a bit of "rm -rf ; mv" to splice the two together.
20:45:26 [ruaok]
eeek. :-)
20:45:33 [ruaok]
ok, I'll go tinker.
20:46:29 [djce]
* djce gets diffing
20:48:46 [djce]
hey. only a 10,501-line diff today. Piece o' cake.
20:48:56 [ruaok]
heh.
20:49:31 [djce]
Or only 5,925 without "-N"
20:49:34 [Knio]
hey, do you guys use mozilla ?
20:49:38 [djce]
always
20:49:43 [djce]
and exclusively :-)
20:49:58 [yalaforge]
* yalaforge uses galeon (which uses gecko)
20:50:04 [Knio]
hmm.. I don't suppose I can make it do stuff ?
20:50:09 [djce]
"do stuff"?
20:50:12 [Knio]
well
20:50:24 [Knio]
ie : I want it to open all new windows in tabs
20:50:46 [djce]
even for target="_blank" etc?
20:50:51 [yalaforge]
sure. I remember that worked
20:50:52 [Knio]
yeah
20:51:07 [djce]
you can right-click on links and choose "open in new tab".
20:51:16 [Knio]
sure I can
20:51:19 [Knio]
but that's no good
20:51:20 [djce]
but that doesn't help with form submits, or window.open()
20:51:44 [yalaforge]
go to Preferences/Navigator/Tabbed Browsing
20:51:57 [Knio]
I tried that
20:52:07 [yalaforge]
which version do you use?
20:52:21 [Knio]
I jsut got it about a week ago...
20:52:38 [yalaforge]
* yalaforge connects to a friend's box who has a current mozilla ...
20:52:41 [Knio]
hrm.. i opened it up just now and its saying "Hey! Your copy of Mozilla is more than four weeks old."
20:52:47 [djce]
you could try setting the hidden pref "browser.tabs.opentabfor.windowopen" to "true"
20:53:04 [djce]
I don't know what it does, but it sounds promising
20:53:42 [Knio]
hidden prefs ?
20:54:08 [djce]
Type "about:config" in the address bar, and tell me what happens
20:54:25 [yalaforge]
well, galeon supports this. it never opens new windows
20:54:26 [Knio]
ah
20:54:51 [djce]
in summary: mozilla has MANY preferences, only some of which actually have a nice window-ticky-thing to change them.
20:55:31 [Knio]
ooh thanks
20:57:01 [djce]
hmmm. it doesn't work though, not for me. :-(
20:58:01 [Knio]
ew.. me neither :/
20:59:13 [djce]
I have to say I would LOVE that feature you're after, too.
20:59:32 [yalaforge]
ever tried galeon? ;-)
20:59:41 [antgod]
stop
20:59:47 [antgod]
oops, wrong window sorry :)
20:59:52 [djce]
:-)
20:59:52 [Knio]
heh
21:00:15 [Knio]
I like the mouse gestures in mozilla, and how it doesn't suck like IE
21:00:51 [Knio]
but its more picky about URLs :(
21:00:52 [djce]
* djce checks bugzilla.mozilla.org
21:01:13 [Knio]
have to go "file://c:/
21:01:29 [Knio]
where ie would take "c:/"
21:01:37 [ruaok]
OK, I give up.
21:01:42 [ruaok]
I'm hopelessly confused.
21:01:45 [djce]
cvs?
21:01:49 [ruaok]
yes.
21:03:00 [ruaok]
cvs -z9 update -D"Thu Dec 18 20:00:00 2003" -A
21:03:00 [ruaok]
cvs -z9 update -D"Thu Dec 18 20:00:00 2003" -A
21:03:00 [ruaok]
cvs -z9 update -D"Thu Dec 18 20:00:00 2003" -A
21:03:08 [ruaok]
eek. just one of those.
21:03:17 [ruaok]
that's how I checked my sources out.
21:03:21 [ruaok]
then
21:03:23 [ruaok]
cd cgi-bin
21:03:40 [ruaok]
cvs -z9 tag -b PermanentLinks-BRANCH
21:03:45 [ruaok]
And I get errors for:
21:04:11 [ruaok]
W Album.pm : PermanentLinks-BRANCH already exists on branch 1.81 : NOT MOVING tag to branch 1.81.0.6
21:04:26 [ruaok]
If there was a tag for 1.81, then why can't it check it out??
21:06:11 [djce]
hmmm. Well I did the checkout-and-splice thing, and it seems to have worked:
21:06:18 [djce]
http://cuthbert.rudolf.org.uk:8080/showartist.html?artistid=510
21:06:33 [ruaok]
ok, but how do we fix this mess for merging in the branch?
21:07:14 [djce]
as long as you're sure only htdocs has changed, we just merge mb_server/htdocs instead of mb_server
21:07:30 [djce]
then run away and pretend it wasn't broken :-)
21:08:13 [ruaok]
ok, I think I've got it now.
21:08:36 [ruaok]
damn. my desktop pager crashed.
21:08:40 [djce]
Ah, but didn't you have to change vh_httpd.conf or Handlers.pm?
21:08:48 [djce]
to get /artist/GUID.html to work?
21:09:00 [ruaok]
yeah....
21:09:10 [ruaok]
ok, so one change outside of htdocs. :-)
21:19:25 [yalaforge]
* yalaforge wonders if 22 CDs are enough for two weeks
21:19:41 [djce]
I couldn't possibly eat that many
21:20:12 [yalaforge]
hm. I guess I need some more :-)
21:21:58 [ruaok]
OK, I really don't trust that branch much.
21:22:33 [ruaok]
Let's stick to your plan of merging just the htdocs and admin/vh_http.conf when we do merge it into the trunk.
21:23:51 [djce]
ok. fire away, if you're ready.
21:24:35 [ruaok]
with the merge??
21:24:41 [ruaok]
have you looked at the changes??
21:25:11 [djce]
It seems to work (apart from vh_httpd.conf - I haven't seen that). I didn't read the diffs.
21:25:29 [ruaok]
ok.
21:25:33 [ruaok]
I'll go for it then.
21:29:14 [djce]
don't forget those changes to finances.html / sponsors.html need to go back on the trunk.
21:29:37 [ruaok]
ok.
21:29:56 [ruaok]
I'm currently wondering why I can't log in on test. :-(
21:31:00 [ruaok]
OK, I've had enough frustation to last me a whole day.
21:31:07 [ruaok]
And I've only been up for 2 hours.
21:31:12 [ruaok]
ARG!
21:31:17 [djce]
bed time :-)
21:31:56 [ruaok]
ok, discard that branch. go back to testing.
21:31:59 [ruaok]
er merge.
21:32:15 [djce]
did you log in to test.mb.org? mine worked.
21:32:42 [ruaok]
no, I logged into test
21:32:48 [ruaok]
vs test.mb.org
21:32:51 [ruaok]
test.mb.org works.
21:32:53 [ruaok]
Sigh.
21:32:56 [djce]
ah.
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21:40:40 [ruaok]
ok, branch merged.
21:41:13 [yalaforge]
ok, it's time for me. I'll be away for about two weeks. Merry christmas and a happy new year to all of you!
21:41:21 [djce]
bye!
21:41:25 [djce]
happy christmas!
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21:41:49 [ruaok]
Frohe Weinachten!
21:42:02 [ruaok]
Und ein guten Rutsch!
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21:43:03 [djce]
* djce is away: tv
21:54:57 [djce]
* djce is back (gone 00:11:51)
21:55:27 [ruaok]
The merge is complete.
21:55:40 [ruaok]
including hv_http, finances and sponsors.
21:55:44 [ruaok]
And its live on test now.
21:55:57 [ruaok]
Now to hack on the top voters thing.
21:56:03 [ruaok]
And then to get working on the grant. :)
22:04:46 [djce]
Knio: you know that hidden pref I mentioned earlier? Try this instead:
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browser.block.target_new_window=true
22:06:05 [ruaok]
Top voters are done too.
22:06:09 [ruaok]
* ruaok is away: lunch
22:06:13 [djce]
That was quick.
22:07:27 [ruaok]
* ruaok is back (gone 00:01:18)
22:07:32 [ruaok]
cut and paste is easy. :-)
22:08:09 [djce]
not hungry? :-)
22:28:34 [ruaok]
not anymore. :-)
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23:07:48 [djce]
ruaok: http://cuthbert.rudolf.org.uk:8080/news/20031219-1.html - in progress
23:09:38 [soccos]
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23:11:34 [soccos]
anyone interested in a mb aritst search bookmarklet?
23:18:55 [djce]
* djce is away: but will be back
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23:34:39 [ruaok]
* ruaok 's cut and paste job apparently sucked ass
23:36:20 [soccos]
:)
23:44:22 [soccos]
* soccos listens to summit #5
23:48:35 [ruaok]
djce: top voters has been fixed. It sure helps to have a machine with a full dataset to test that one.
23:51:06 [ruaok]
djce: I'll fill in my TODO section once you check that changelog in.
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23:59:51 [rjmunro]
Sorry, took rather longer to come back than expected.