IRC log of musicbrainz on 2004-02-23

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21:35:47 [ruaok]
djce: how are things?
21:35:53 [djce]
not bad thanks!
21:36:11 [ruaok]
Final tally on the board of directors: 5 yes, 3 no.
21:36:15 [djce]
just need to test Match.pl, then I'm all set for tomorrow.
21:36:17 [djce]
cool!
21:36:26 [ruaok]
Now I have 5 *excellent* candidates that I must choose from.
21:36:32 [djce]
So are you over-subscribed? wow.
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* ruaok waves to danbri
21:37:17 [ruaok]
That was intentional -- we wanted to get more yeses that we can handle in order to build a balanced board.
21:37:40 [ruaok]
Its going to be hard having to say no to two people.
21:38:05 [ruaok]
Interesting breakdown of locations as well:
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1 .jp, 3 .uk 2 .us (myself not included)
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.de and .nl are missing for a board that would be truely representative of the nations that most participate in MB.
21:40:15 [djce]
good going then. It's nice to see things moving forward apace.
21:40:43 [ruaok]
now I need to nail down a treasurer and a secretary. Preferrably in SF.
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22:05:41 [djce]
ruaok: I've found why my Match.pl shows no matches.
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the response I'm getting says:
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"Your request has one or more parameters missing. Please check and retry."
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Where do I start looking?
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djce: you will need uncomment the blank AWS entries in DBDefs and replace it with the non-blank ones
22:15:10 [djce]
ok
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so Match.pl should be run until we can get the OK from OPG?
22:15:58 [ruaok]
it should run as long as we support amazon integration.
22:16:03 [djce]
s/should/shouldn't/
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we may need to hard-code our AWS numbers in Match.pl for now.
22:16:45 [djce]
sure
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but we should be running it continually, regardless our incorporation state
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or add another flag for "pass associate IDs to cart" etc
22:17:26 [ruaok]
yeah, I think tinkering with Match.pl has less of an impact.
22:17:50 [djce]
true. that'll do for now.
22:17:53 [djce]
thanks
22:18:14 [ruaok]
np
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23:19:13 [djce]
ruaok: another Q about Match.pl, when you're back
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23:19:28 [ruaok]
sorry.
23:19:46 [djce]
hi
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How long do you think --daily mode will take?
23:20:03 [djce]
each day, that is
23:20:27 [ruaok]
a while. could be hours.
23:20:45 [ruaok]
given that we cannot make more than one connection to amazon per second, it does take a while.
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perhaps a seperate cron job is in order?
23:21:06 [djce]
By a very rough estimate, I'm thinking: 80,000 artists / 30 = ~ 25,000
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and it's taking 3-5 seconds per artist for me
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which is probably about a 24 hour run time.
23:21:56 [ruaok]
the script initially took 2 or so full days to run.
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Call it three full days.
23:22:23 [djce]
Maybe you've got a faster connection to Amazon than me.
23:22:28 [ruaok]
Given that I'd expect it to run in about 2.5 hours a day>?
23:22:49 [ruaok]
I don't think its that -- it depends on what artists and where in the dataset you connect.
23:23:06 [ruaok]
the lower ids (better established artists) were really slow.
23:23:19 [djce]
I'm wondering if an option more like "--stop-after=DELTATIME" is appropriate.
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the higher ids (lesser known artists) move fast where some artists are done in 1 second.
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e.g. run for 1 hour then stop
23:23:47 [ruaok]
Sounds very reasonable.
23:24:02 [djce]
just to guard against the cron job running on for ages, or possibly even overlapping with the next run.
23:24:05 [ruaok]
perhaps we can write its actual completion time (and percent complete at completion) to a log to monitor it.
23:24:14 [djce]
ok, I'll have a look at that.
23:24:18 [ruaok]
sweet.
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I don't anticipate this being a problem, but I appreciate your care.
23:24:50 [djce]
I like to be careful, from time to time :-)
23:25:02 [ruaok]
complements me nicely. :-)
23:26:10 [djce]
What are the actual conditions of the AWS service? are we limited to only one connection at a time, for example?
23:26:20 [ruaok]
yes.
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is it one sec between response and next request, or request and next request?
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one connection per IP per second.
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unspecified.
23:27:18 [ruaok]
and if the tool gets distributed, each instance of the tool cannot make more than 1 connection per second.
23:27:30 [djce]
ok, there may be something to exploit there if we need to.
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