IRC log of musicbrainz on 2004-05-18

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00:39:56 [real]
so if i get an nmb share thing
00:40:02 [real]
and run the windos tagger, things will work?
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i really want tosubmit trms =[[[[[[[[
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02:04:30 [diaper]
does anyone know of a specific irc channel for help with id3lib and id3 tags?
02:05:12 [wheels]
heh
02:05:22 [wheels]
* wheels mumbles something containing "evil"
02:06:13 [wheels]
diaper: but just ask
02:06:35 [diaper]
heh, well
02:07:18 [diaper]
i just want to extract field data from an id3_frame and copy it into a text/int buffer
02:07:27 [diaper]
like artist/title/genre etc
02:07:45 [diaper]
i guess the first question i have is
02:07:52 [wheels]
diaper: do you care about other fields?
02:08:03 [diaper]
i dont care about all of them
02:08:04 [wheels]
diaper: the easiest way to get that stuff in id3lib is using the misc_support.h header
02:08:11 [duncf]
* duncf lols
02:08:11 [diaper]
hmm
02:08:47 [wheels]
* wheels fights the temptation to flame id3lib. :-)
02:08:48 [diaper]
ahh nice
02:09:09 [diaper]
didnt see those =p
02:09:10 [diaper]
thanks
02:09:29 [wheels]
* wheels used to be the maintainer long ago in a galaxy far, far away. :-)
02:09:55 [diaper]
reallyu
02:09:59 [diaper]
so whats so evil about it
02:09:59 [diaper]
haha
02:10:16 [wheels]
diaper: the code is terrible
02:10:40 [wheels]
diaper: Oh, and remember to delete [] the stuff that you get back from those functions -- otherwise it'll leak.
02:11:58 [diaper]
alright
02:12:14 [diaper]
cool, i was afraid of having to go through this maze of code to just get a string out
02:12:18 [diaper]
thanks
02:12:39 [wheels]
diaper: yeah, that is a unified id3v2/v1 thing
02:13:22 [wheels]
diaper: though I should at this point plug TagLib (well, being the author) since I think the interface is much nicer for this stuff. :-)
02:13:48 [diaper]
i see =p
02:13:56 [diaper]
got a website?
02:14:09 [wheels]
diaper: http://ktown.kde.org/~wheeler/taglib/
02:15:11 [wheels]
diaper: And there getting the artist is like: TagLib::MPEG::File f("foo.mp3"); f.tag()->artist();
02:15:52 [wheels]
Pipian: If you're working in C (rather than C++) there are also some other alternatives...
02:16:06 [diaper]
does it run ok on windows
02:16:46 [wheels]
diaper: I don't really know. Someone claims to have ported it, but id3lib is actually supported on Windows, so if you're focusing on that you might choose to stick with id3lib.
02:20:50 [diaper]
hmm
02:22:01 [wheels]
id3lib has issues, but it mostly works in the latest versions. I don't develop on Windows, so I don't intend to make any guarantees about TagLib on Windows.
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02:23:05 [diaper]
i understand
02:23:57 [diaper]
speed is really important though, and if yours runs 6 times faster i wanna use it =p
02:24:32 [wheels]
Well, that's CPU time -- your biggest bottleneck is still going to be disk accesses.
02:24:44 [wheels]
But TagLib is a bit more effecient there too.
02:25:46 [Pipian]
Mrr?
02:25:47 [Pipian]
What?
02:26:12 [wheels]
Pipian: Relax. Another C++ guy. :-)
02:26:17 [Pipian]
oh
02:26:17 [Pipian]
OK
02:26:23 [wheels]
Pipian: I put in a disclaimer for you. :-)
02:27:58 [diaper]
well, it compiled
02:28:01 [diaper]
thats a start
02:28:10 [diaper]
(windows version)
02:28:49 [wheels]
diaper: The issue will really be releasing later versions -- they'll only show up if others do them. Grated the changes in 1.1 were header paths and one line of code. :-)
02:28:50 [Pipian]
I saw =P
02:29:36 [diaper]
hehe
02:31:00 [wheels]
diaper: (He's working on a similar lib in C)
02:32:07 [wheels]
Pipian: But dude -- you've got to actually get a web page, docs, and a tarball to get some leverage going...
02:51:15 [spi_]
ruaok: what is the module that i should checkout of the helix site?
02:51:28 [spi_]
to install the new python tagger
02:52:50 [Pipian]
Yeah
02:52:51 [Pipian]
I know
02:52:59 [Pipian]
I was briefly working on a webpage
02:53:02 [Pipian]
I kinda had a scheme
02:53:12 [Pipian]
but the color scheme was vaguely MB-esque ^^;;;
02:53:31 [Pipian]
I had a logo though ^^
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04:02:49 [ruaok]
spi_: module picard
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04:27:14 [spi_]
ahh.. now i got it
04:27:15 [yalaforge]
* yalaforge is confused
04:27:34 [ruaok]
yalaforge: you're probably up too early.
04:27:40 [yalaforge]
definitly
04:27:47 [ruaok]
morning!
04:27:53 [yalaforge]
good morning
04:31:04 [spi_]
yipee... it runs :)
04:31:10 [ruaok]
sweet.
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04:31:14 [spi_]
so what all works?
04:31:16 [spi_]
:)
04:31:23 [ruaok]
not too much.
04:31:31 [spi_]
looks nice though
04:31:31 [spi_]
:)
04:31:41 [ruaok]
drag an mp3 from the file browser to the [drag here folder]
04:32:07 [ruaok]
the open the unsorted folder and click on the track.
04:32:14 [ruaok]
then click on lookup.
04:46:29 [spi_]
is the lookup underneath the file information fields?
04:46:36 [spi_]
i can't see all of the window
04:46:52 [ruaok]
probably.
04:47:04 [ruaok]
I'm not setting the size of that panel correctly.
04:47:20 [ruaok]
Pipian: did you ever tinker with the controls?
04:47:21 [spi_]
:)
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04:51:23 [Pipian]
eh
04:51:27 [Pipian]
which controls?
04:51:32 [Pipian]
To be honest? No.
04:51:38 [ruaok]
no worries.
04:51:41 [ruaok]
did you want to play with that?
04:51:52 [ruaok]
or should I convince spi_ to play with that? :-)
04:52:02 [Pipian]
I dunno. Again, I'd have to figure out Python and see what you did ^^
04:52:09 [Pipian]
(and also what you're looking for =P
04:52:09 [ruaok]
Ah.
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04:52:32 [spi_]
my python knowledge is sadly lacking atm... but its just another programming language
04:52:33 [ruaok]
Not bad that you got it running without knowing python. thats a good sign.
04:52:33 [spi_]
;)
04:52:39 [ruaok]
ding.
04:52:47 [ruaok]
and an easy/pleasant one at that.
04:53:00 [spi_]
i am a 3rd year comp sci major... so i know how to get around at least :)
04:53:14 [wheels]
heh
04:53:44 [wheels]
...if I had a nickle...
04:54:34 [spi_]
and i can delude my self with illusions of grandeur
04:55:48 [wheels]
spi_: Sorry -- not even following the conversation -- I'm sure you're a bright fellow. But this does not follow from the above. :-)
04:57:40 [spi_]
wheels: tis okay
04:57:54 [spi_]
wheels: i know alot of 3rd year comp sci majors who can't get around :)
04:58:14 [wheels]
spi_: Then my point was not lost. :-)
04:58:43 [spi_]
nope... clear as a bell
05:01:14 [real]
the python tagger is done?
05:01:32 [real]
or working more
05:01:36 [spi_]
real: not yet
05:01:39 [spi_]
the GUI is there
05:01:48 [spi_]
portions of it anyway
05:01:55 [spi_]
from what i see... i just got it running
05:01:59 [real]
do you have to be a helix thing developer to check it out the cvs
05:02:22 [spi_]
yeah i don't think anonymous cvs is available... its painless to sign up though
05:02:26 [ruaok]
real: can you please stop asking about this damn tagger?
05:02:38 [ruaok]
When its ready to use for you, I WILL PERSONALLY SEND YOU AN INVITE, OK?
05:02:39 [real]
i dont do it often!!
05:02:46 [ruaok]
often enough to PISS ME OFF.
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05:03:00 [real]
damn
05:03:48 [real]
thats kind of nice though instead of bannign me he left
05:04:47 [wheels]
real: that won't kick in until the next join :-)
05:05:28 [real]
hehe
05:06:17 [real]
i want to add trms =]
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09:30:28 [alex\s]
wtf
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17:02:30 [Pipian]
MB really needs a "Merge from non-album tracks" option
17:02:45 [Pipian]
That makes two non-album tracks that should be in an album with provided TRM
17:09:27 [jwatk03]
on the mb personal profile page, it would be cool to have a top 5 favorite artists beneath the bio... and they would be linked to the artist pages
17:09:56 [ruaok]
jwatk03: cool idea.
17:10:01 [ruaok]
wanna lead the charge?
17:10:21 [ruaok]
given that you're a regular contributor, you should send us a bio/pic.
17:10:49 [jwatk03]
i'm not good on the server programming side, so I'll make an RFE
17:11:13 [ruaok]
I'll do it, just send me the info.
17:14:08 [jwatk03]
you could actually just link to my mb profile page, I keep it fairly updated ;)
17:14:53 [ruaok]
I'm not even sure I know your moderator name...
17:14:56 [ruaok]
jwatk03 ?
17:15:04 [jwatk03]
same thing... i'm not original at all
17:22:42 [jwatk03]
you could also add me to sourceforge if you wanted to, i have an id there.. it is once again, the same id jwatk03
17:22:48 [jwatk03]
* jwatk03 is boring
17:25:48 [real]
no boring people wouldn't add an 03 after their nick, thats all mysterious and stuff
17:25:49 [ruaok]
done
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17:50:10 [alex\s]
hi
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