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* ruaok is back (gone 91:03:57)
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91 hours. wow.
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time for some well deserved sleep.
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back in about 10 hours.
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[Global Notice] Hi all....just a reminder, +J can be quite useful for clonebot issues. We have a bit of a kiddie infestation atm. Thanks.
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[Global Notice] Sample command: /quote mode #yourchannelname +Jf 30,3 #overflow
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[Global Notice] Hi all. We just did a long list of clonebot klines, if we caught someone you know by mistake, please message me. Thanks, and sorry for the inconvenience.
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[Global Notice] Hi all. We've experienced some configuration problems, and they should be mostly resolved. As a matter of interest, there are issues with the current production server code that we'll be resolving in dancerd 1.1, about which we'll be providing more information in the near future (and we'll need your help with coding :). Thanks!
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17:13:31 [ruaok]
djce: hey!
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be right with you, ruaok....
17:15:47 [djce]
ruaok: hi
17:15:53 [ruaok]
hyew.
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woah.
17:16:01 [ruaok]
I forgot how to type.
17:16:06 [djce]
How's your weekend?
17:16:15 [ruaok]
one week deep in the forest and you forget to type.
17:16:23 [ruaok]
AWESOME. It was just awesome.
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how about yours?
17:16:27 [djce]
Forest? You left .ca?
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(.ca.us that is?)
17:16:38 [ruaok]
nope.
17:16:48 [djce]
CA is more varied than I knew then :-)
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no surprises there.
17:16:52 [ruaok]
we drove 12 hours inside of CA to get to a nice forest.
17:16:53 [djce]
;-)
17:17:15 [djce]
My weekend was fine thanks. And this week's not so bad either.
17:17:15 [ruaok]
have you ever heard of the rainbow gathering?
17:18:05 [djce]
no
17:18:20 [ruaok]
I trust you know what a hippie is, right?
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haha
17:18:31 [djce]
I was just going to say, more hippy shit?
17:18:32 [djce]
:-)
17:18:32 [Russss]
thought it sounded hippy
17:18:32 [ruaok]
Imagine 20,000 of them gathering in a forest.
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its is an amazing spectacle of human beings, human kindness and just plain crazyness.
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17:25:31 [ruaok]
a long weekend in the forest makes it challenging to readjust, thats for sure.
17:27:32 [djce]
ruaok: quick TRM/RDF question?
17:27:42 [djce]
oh FFS
17:27:53 [ruaok]
heh. :-)
17:27:54 [ruaok]
sure.
17:28:05 [djce]
ok. in QuerySupport::TrackInfoFromTRMId ,
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it returns simple error messages if the TRM requested was the TOO BUSY or TOO SHORT ones.
17:28:30 [djce]
should it do the same for SILENCE?
17:28:52 [ruaok]
I don't think so.
17:29:04 [ruaok]
The first two are error conditions, whereas the latter is a valid condition.
17:29:23 [djce]
Maybe it should return a hard-coded empty result set though?
17:29:36 [ruaok]
that does make sense.
17:29:52 [djce]
Didn't you patch the code somewhere to prevent SILENCE being added to trmjoin?
17:30:05 [djce]
if so, this would just be a "safety net" approach.
17:30:26 [ruaok]
I did that for BUSY and TOO SHORT, but not silence.
17:30:39 [ruaok]
and the safeguard is in QS.pm, not TRM.pm
17:30:42 [djce]
ah. ok.
17:30:57 [djce]
ok, I'll leave it for now, since I'm tweaking live code.
17:31:06 [djce]
maybe make that change later in a proper dev box.
17:31:34 [ruaok]
oh. is there a problem?
17:31:58 [djce]
No, I was just tweaking the code which collects TRM and sigserver stats for Arjan.
17:32:04 [ruaok]
ok
17:32:25 [ruaok]
you know that I am leaving tomorrow for another festival, right?
17:32:41 [djce]
I do now :-)
17:32:42 [ruaok]
I don't think I will get around to actual work today or part of tomorrow.
17:32:46 [djce]
ok, np.
17:32:50 [Russss]
all right for some :P
17:32:51 [ruaok]
I'll be fully back in action come the 12th.
17:32:58 [djce]
I've got an hour of Employer Work to do later too...
17:33:19 [ruaok]
however, this time jeff simmons will be out there with me...
17:33:34 [ruaok]
Which leaves you as the only person to attempt to look after the servers...
17:33:37 [djce]
ok, right you are. Let's hope all is well then :-)
17:33:42 [ruaok]
agreed.
17:34:26 [ruaok]
I was going to try and do some work today, but I will just consider myself on holiday for a week and a day.
17:34:35 [djce]
What's this week's fun then? The next festival?
17:35:02 [ruaok]
Junkmailman VII
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We save our junkmail and then build a 30 foot tall man, stuff him with junkmail and burn him.
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we're breaking ground on camp tomorrow.
17:35:38 [djce]
* djce sees the web site piccy
17:35:42 [djce]
sounds weird :-)
17:36:00 [ruaok]
more weird and dirty than rainbow, for sure.
17:36:13 [ruaok]
er, more weird, but LESS dirty than rainbow.
17:36:23 [Russss]
there's always something to do with burning men.
17:36:42 [ruaok]
JMM used to happen the night before the burning man went.
17:36:54 [ruaok]
but the organizer could never get people to bring their junkmail.
17:37:03 [ruaok]
so, now its a seperate (regional) event.
17:37:25 [ruaok]
there are lots of points to compare and contrast with the BM festival.
17:37:34 [ruaok]
However, JMM is sponsored by Red Bull. :-)
17:37:39 [djce]
Oh btw I like the anon-cvs-via-ssh thing. Very neat.
17:37:47 [Russss]
got to love the corporate sponsorship
17:37:50 [djce]
That could be a handy recipe to have lying around.
17:37:58 [ruaok]
thanks.
17:38:03 [ruaok]
not my idea, but it works.
17:38:12 [ruaok]
screw the pserver.
17:38:19 [djce]
Maybe AOL should sponsor JMM? ;-)
17:38:27 [djce]
Donate some fuel?
17:38:34 [ruaok]
oh, they DO!
17:38:39 [Russss]
heh.
17:38:44 [ruaok]
there is lots of AOL fuel in there.
17:38:44 [djce]
And they don't even know it! LOL
17:38:49 [ruaok]
but we do take out the CDs
17:40:02 [djce]
Right, time to go and make sure I have some dinner before I do more work this evening.
17:40:14 [djce]
Catch you later, hippy dudes! ;-)
17:40:18 [ruaok]
right-o
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AAAAG!
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lol
17:40:22 [ruaok]
Ok, that has got to go.
17:40:47 [Russss]
it amuses me how these hippy festivals have commercial sponsorship. It's kind of ironic.
17:41:13 [ruaok]
Russss: rainbow does not, nor will it ever.
17:41:21 [ruaok]
Junkmailman is not hippie.
17:41:31 [ruaok]
Counter cultural, perhaps, but not hippie.
17:41:33 [Russss]
we don't have much of that stuff around here
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probably because there's actually nowhere to hold it in the UK
17:42:52 [ruaok]
thats always a problem here too.
17:43:04 [ruaok]
but we have extensive beaches, deserts and forests.
17:43:06 [Russss]
we have Glastonbury, which I went to this year
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but we always have to tangle with law enforcement.
17:43:43 [Russss]
it's not really hippy any more. And it's so heavily regulated it's a wonder it manages
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great atmosphere though
17:44:11 [ruaok]
therein lies the rub. Little regulation is key.
17:45:12 [Russss]
Glastonbury has a 40-mile-long 12' high steel fence around it for the duration of the festival.
17:46:06 [Russss]
expensive too
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