IRC log of musicbrainz on 2006-03-02

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00:01:24 [Shepard]

I thought the talk about classical stuff was already over...

00:01:59 [OperaMo]

no shepaqrd; tal kabout composer as artist stuff!

00:02:18 [OperaMo]

do I need sleep?

00:02:21 [OperaMo]

you betcha

00:04:04 [OperaMo]

* OperaMo laughs http://musicbrainz.org/track/3975ec14-815b-4b2c-9a67-41cc86fed369.html

00:06:37 [Shepard]

lol

00:09:28 [OperaMo]

(you know who I'm thinking of, ne?)

00:09:29 [OperaMo]

;)

00:10:14 [Shepard]

for sure

00:10:19 [OperaMo]

:D

00:15:17 [Shepard]

you know what I'm thinking of?

00:15:28 [OperaMo]

no what?

00:16:13 [Shepard]

that it's funny again that both norwegian and german have ", ne?"

00:16:23 [Shepard]

I mean, it's a more modern term!

00:16:52 [Shepard]

at least here it's slang

00:17:15 [OperaMo]

I though it was for mjapanese :)

00:17:25 [OperaMo]

that's where I got it for matleast :)

00:17:32 [OperaMo]

hmm

00:17:35 [Shepard]

hm

00:17:38 [fuchs]

h

00:17:40 [OperaMo]

I neeeed to go to bed

00:17:53 [inhouseuk]

night mo

00:18:03 [OperaMo]

natta inhouse

00:18:07 [fuchs]

baba mo

00:18:27 [inhouseuk]

mo http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=4358300

00:18:37 [Shepard]

sleep well

00:19:06 [OperaMo]

lesson kids: don't vote while fightign to keep your eyes open

00:19:10 [OperaMo]

natt

00:19:19 [inhouseuk]

:)

00:19:30 [fuchs]

i never fight like this

00:21:09 [Shepard]

fuchs chats with eyes closed

00:21:59 [fuchs]

sure, otherwise i wouldn't survive for long in here

00:22:57 [inhouseuk]

so if we say horrid things about you, you wouldn't see them :)

00:25:32 [fuchs]

no, i just won't see you while you are saying it :)

00:27:01 [Mudcrow]

http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=4358160 anyone ever heard of a Enya & Enigma collaboration, I havent found any mention of one

00:29:15 [Mudcrow]

http://musicbrainz.org/album/d80e85fd-b7f5-443c-9f81-e7ffda773014.html another enigma & enya album here. Her fan site says Enya has never recorded Adiemus nor Braveheart

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00:33:23 [inhouseuk]

Mudcrow: I seem to remember something about a colloboration, I'll have a dig around

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00:34:50 [Mudcrow]

Enya's website says that there are a lot of bogus MP3s about crediting the song Adiemus to Enya, when it was in fact recorded by the band Adiemus. Both these albums have that track on them, which points to them being bogus albums

00:35:53 [inhouseuk]

yeah or it could be something like http://musicbrainz.org/album/13f1c4c0-62a9-41bc-a087-9e742a18bb44.html

00:36:23 [inhouseuk]

in any case that add album is bogus

00:36:46 [Shepard]

oh shit, I indeed thought it was an Enya song

00:36:53 [Mudcrow]

http://www.enya.com/ http://discography.enya.com/faq/default.asp here's also a bootleg from Eastern Europe called "Solas". This album was written by Ron Hardiman. The producer of this bootleg used Enya's name for their product.

00:37:30 [Mudcrow]

but the album already in the db, isnt the Ron Hardiman one either

00:38:33 [inhouseuk]

http://musicbrainz.org/newsearch.html?search=solas&table=album

00:39:04 [inhouseuk]

I'll perform a merge on that one currently under enya

00:40:53 [luks]

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00:42:34 [inhouseuk]

http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=4358380

00:45:11 [Mudcrow]

http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=4358382

00:47:22 [inhouseuk]

http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=4358383

00:47:34 [inhouseuk]

http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=4358384

00:48:04 [Shepard]

you're being scary

00:48:31 [inhouseuk]

:)

00:50:09 [Mudcrow]

http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=4358386

00:57:44 [fuchs]

flood detected

00:58:00 [Mudcrow]

I'm going to stop voting on these mods, one simple mod ends up being an hours research and delting half the db

00:59:34 [Shepard]

I'm going to tell robert!

01:00:07 [fuchs]

* fuchs too!

01:00:43 [fuchs]

this is abuse of automod status

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01:01:23 [mustaqila]

* mustaqila abuses #musicbrainz with a wet sock

01:02:41 [fuchs]

Mudcrow: maybe noone told you before, but you don't have to do >300 edits per day ;)

01:03:29 [Mudcrow]

:p

01:03:45 [Shepard]

well since zout is running low atm it's probably better

01:03:50 [fuchs]

* fuchs doesn't want to think about the hours wasted on entries i will never listen to ;)

01:04:12 [Shepard]

who was it fixing bravo hits? ;)

01:04:22 [fuchs]

yeah, still not finished with that crap

01:04:53 [fuchs]

and i guess it is completely messed up again

01:05:15 [Shepard]

you know it gets worse every day if you don't maintain it :)

01:05:19 [fuchs]

* fuchs sometimes really hates freedb

01:05:32 [Mudcrow]

* Mudcrow really really hates freedb

01:06:09 [inhouseuk]

this is when a locking mechanism would be useful. Once something is fixed and proven to be correct, lock it against change

01:06:30 [fuchs]

this doesn't prevent people from importing new stuff

01:06:36 [Mudcrow]

I've been ripping CD's and using freedb lookup. so far I've had 1 completely correct CD out of about 60

01:06:55 [inhouseuk]

fuchs: true

01:07:13 [fuchs]

and some volumes of those bravo hits compilations exist in 3 different versions for Germany, Switzerland and Austria, and there are even bootlegs around...

01:07:38 [fuchs]

and about 50-100 different entries in freedb for every volume

01:07:50 [inhouseuk]

europop stuff ?

01:08:46 [fuchs]

bravo is the biggest and oldest youth magazin in germany and they put a bravo hits sampler on the market every few month, so it's more a chart sampler

01:09:05 [inhouseuk]

ah, okay

01:10:19 [inhouseuk]

bit like the Now Music releases, but released with a magazine?

01:10:22 [fuchs]

inhouseuk: ah, one question, what's the correct term to describe the number of single items of one release edition?

01:10:33 [fuchs]

the english term ;)

01:11:15 [inhouseuk]

you mean as in the separate discs of a box set?

01:11:45 [Shepard]

they are not released with the magazine, I think. only separate in stores

01:11:46 [fuchs]

no in general, e.g. I want to say the first edition of this book was limited to 10000 pieces

01:12:07 [inhouseuk]

limited edition

01:12:24 [fuchs]

what's the term for describing the number of items produced for one edition?

01:12:32 [fuchs]

not necessarily a limited one

01:12:47 [Shepard]

translation for auflage?

01:12:52 [fuchs]

yep

01:12:54 [inhouseuk]

* inhouseuk thinks

01:13:07 [fuchs]

maybe there is no special term for this in English

01:13:25 [fuchs]

but how would a native speaker express this?

01:13:41 [inhouseuk]

I can't think of one word at the moment

01:14:10 [Shepard]

my dict: Auflage von ... run of ... copies

01:14:19 [fuchs]

ok, in german we say something like: the book had an edition of 10,000

01:14:43 [inhouseuk]

yes, print run when it comes to magazines

01:15:00 [inhouseuk]

or books

01:15:13 [Shepard]

it also says circulation

01:15:31 [Mudcrow]

circulation is the number of copies sold

01:15:42 [inhouseuk]

circulation would be used for newspapers

01:16:04 [Mudcrow]

or actually sent out to stores, doesnt always mean the same

01:17:25 [inhouseuk]

with news papers there are normally slightly more printed than sold, any left over at the end of the day or month go back to the distributor

01:17:34 [fuchs]

ok, thx, i hope i'll remember this the next time i need the term ;)

01:26:01 [yllona]

books, magazines, CDs and DVDs that are returned to the distributor are called "remainders".

01:26:22 [inhouseuk]

* inhouseuk nods

01:27:04 [yllona]

in extreme situations remainders are returned to the artist/author, and the author is charged back for the unsold copies

01:27:23 [inhouseuk]

nasty :(

01:28:06 [yllona]

yep.

01:29:47 [yllona]

typically happens with an over-hyped artist. lots of pre-marketing, too many copies printed, and the book/album doesn't meet numbers

01:30:37 [inhouseuk]

but the artist/author could then destroy the majority of the remainders and sell them on ebay as rare items :)

01:30:42 [yllona]

has pretty much become a moot point with digital downloads though

01:30:55 [yllona]

inhouseuk: exactly

01:31:05 [yllona]

or just sell them on e-bay period

01:32:02 [inhouseuk]

if they then sold, it tells me the original marketing was done badly

01:32:19 [yllona]

just because a book or album doesn't sell well at major retailers, means taht the product placement was poor, etc

01:33:13 [inhouseuk]

overpriced is frequently a reason for something not selling in the numbers expected

01:33:18 [yllona]

the shelf and/or window placement of a book/cd at a major retailer is *intensely* negotiated

01:33:55 [yllona]

i'd unload my remainders on ebay or AMZ re-sellers, for sure

01:35:21 [yllona]

some publishers have moved to on-demand printing for outlets like AMZ and Borders

01:35:36 [yllona]

Wal-Mart also

01:37:47 [inhouseuk]

one thing that annoys me, is regional pricing. For instance, I regularly buy CD's and DVD's from somewhere that source their supply in asia. The products are identical to those released in the uk/europe but at a substantially reduced price

01:38:43 [yllona]

are the CDs legit? or is it just currency exchange?

01:38:56 [inhouseuk]

legit

01:39:16 [yllona]

some EU countries have tariffs on physical media also.

01:39:36 [yllona]

France does, i think canada too

01:39:47 [inhouseuk]

they are sold on the asian market at a lower price then they are in the EU

01:39:55 [inhouseuk]

they're called grey imports

01:40:06 [yllona]

that could be the media tariff also.

01:40:48 [inhouseuk]

that would be some of the markup, but not all of it

01:40:56 [yllona]

yeah

01:43:29 [inhouseuk]

there are also a few online sellers that have setup on the uk channel islands. the channels islands are a tax haven and sales tax doesn't supply. They can then sell their goods to the uk mainland at a reduced price as sales tax doesn't need to be accounted for

01:43:49 [inhouseuk]

s/supply/apply/

01:44:29 [inhouseuk]

good for the consumer, but a few of the mainland based sellers are complaining

01:46:00 [fuchs]

hmm, they really sell UMDs with music already

01:46:05 [fuchs]

http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000CCW0I6

01:46:10 [inhouseuk]

even amazon sell some goods from jersey

01:46:51 [inhouseuk]

fuchs: I expected that :(

01:49:45 [fuchs]

for an insane price, but people seem to buy it :/

01:50:06 [Shepard]

* Shepard wonders how many of the memory cells are used for the music

01:50:07 [Jetpack]

where can you get stuff from the cahnnel islands?

01:50:39 [inhouseuk]

fuchs: I suspect the real reason for UMD is to prevent piracy. You can't buy blank UMD media

01:50:50 [fuchs]

not yet ;)

01:51:12 [inhouseuk]

Jetpack: www.cdwow.com and www.101cd.com

01:51:42 [Jetpack]

thanks

01:51:50 [inhouseuk]

also play.com are/were based there

01:51:53 [Jetpack]

how about pc components

01:51:53 [Jetpack]

:P

01:52:28 [Shepard]

* Shepard wonders if Sealand has a CD store

01:52:33 [fuchs]

inhouseuk: is amazon.co.uk expensive? generally it looks cheaper than .de

01:52:46 [inhouseuk]

Jetpack: pc components would attract import duty if they are over £18

01:53:55 [Jetpack]

ohh ok damn

01:54:25 [inhouseuk]

fuchs: amazon.co.uk is reasonably priced, but you can buy somethings cheaper elsewhere. It's generally the cheapest for books

01:55:24 [fuchs]

inhouseuk: well books have a fixed price in germany ;)

01:55:29 [Jetpack]

i've bought too much stuff from amazon

01:55:46 [Jetpack]

fuchs they do?? bizarre

01:56:41 [fuchs]

yep, except imports or better books than are not mainly for the german market, so often english imports are cheaper than the german translations of a book

01:56:58 [fuchs]

s/than/that

01:59:52 [inhouseuk]

* inhouseuk chuckles at the latest email to mb-users

02:00:47 [fuchs]

*rotfl*

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02:02:06 [nikki_]

* nikki_ looks

02:02:50 [inhouseuk]

is there a convenient web to irc gateway that could be used

02:03:06 [Shepard]

http://www.robinsloan.com/epic/ scary :o

02:03:44 [Jetpack]

poor girl

02:03:53 [inhouseuk]

nikki_: would you like to reply to Joan?

02:03:59 [nikki_]

what do I say?

02:04:07 [Jetpack]

should change the web page to say install Mirc

02:04:23 [nikki_]

except mirc only works for windows...

02:04:32 [fuchs]

better use a free client ;)

02:04:44 [Jetpack]

anyone using linux should know what to do .. dont know about mac

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02:04:51 [fuchs]

doesn't have firefox an irc client?

02:04:59 [nikki_]

ime, people often don't know what to use on macs

02:05:01 [yole]

maybe as an extension

02:05:08 [nikki_]

there's chatzilla

02:05:10 [yole]

are you guys talking about joan whittaker? lol

02:05:22 [fuchs]

luks is using chatzilla if i remember correctly

02:05:26 [inhouseuk]

she used outlook for her email, so she seems to be running winblight

02:05:44 [inhouseuk]

* inhouseuk uses chatzilla

02:05:50 [nikki_]

I think a wiki page would be better than actually writing stuff into mb_server (well, except maybe a link to the wiki page...)

02:05:54 [fuchs]

and i remember MS chat with the comic chat mode :)

02:05:57 [yole]

* yole sent her the mirc instructions

02:06:11 [yole]

but because of her quesiton, i found out about this channel, lol

02:06:21 [yole]

i just joined the mailing list yesterday

02:06:23 [nikki_]

I remember that, fuchs!

02:06:35 [inhouseuk]

yole: welcome :)

02:07:01 [yole]

i've been participating on the wiki 'discussion' sections--but how do i recieve notification if someone 'replies' ?

02:08:27 [fuchs]

subscribe to the page

02:08:29 [Shepard]

you can subscribe to a page

02:08:37 [fuchs]

and welcome at #musicbrainz ;)

02:08:39 [yole]

oh ok, i missed that

02:08:52 [yole]

* yole will be active in the classical music database

02:09:11 [yole]

i came here by way of helium music manager

02:09:11 [Shepard]

fuchs: I should disagree with that, shouldn't I? ;)

02:09:30 [fuchs]

Shepard: you are supposed to, yes

02:09:45 [yole]

which i was cursing at over the holidays trying to develop my own private tag standard, lol

02:09:48 [yole]

toiling in obscurity

02:09:55 [Shepard]

don't subscribe to wiki pages! never do what fuchs says! ;P

02:10:09 [yole]

i had a TA named Shay Fuchs

02:10:16 [fuchs]

TA?

02:10:24 [fuchs]

technical assistant?

02:10:28 [yole]

Teacher's Assistant in university

02:10:35 [yole]

hehe, no i don't have any assistants of my own yet, lol

02:10:45 [Shepard]

my aunt's last name is Fuchs

02:10:47 [yole]

* yole bitch-slaps his slaves

02:11:49 [fuchs]

Shepard: why? you don't marry in family?

02:11:51 [Shepard]

you were the one writing about NoArtistStyle?

02:12:05 [Shepard]

fuchs: hu?

02:12:49 [fuchs]

all relatives should have the same name, family outsourcing is bad ;)

02:13:09 [Shepard]

bad drugs, for sure...

02:13:18 [fuchs]

just thought the same thing

02:13:27 [fuchs]

maybe 1 pill would have been enough

02:13:45 [Shepard]

oh, you took both the red and the blue one?

02:14:06 [fuchs]

yes :(

02:14:20 [nikki_]

* nikki_ looks amused

02:14:32 [yole]

Shepard yeah, i'm adamgolding

02:14:43 [Shepard]

no wonder you completly lost contact to reality

02:15:09 [Shepard]

yole: ah. still open questions? objections? :)

02:15:30 [fuchs]

Shepard: but blue and red makes purple and i wanted a purple pill!

02:15:52 [nikki_]

I have a purple biro

02:16:10 [Shepard]

my IRC highlight is purple

02:16:16 [fuchs]

biro?

02:16:24 [nikki_]

a pen...

02:16:26 [Shepard]

kuli

02:16:27 [yole]

Shepard lemme find it again, i forget the most recent state of the debate

02:16:36 [fuchs]

ah, doesn't look like an english word

02:16:36 [nikki_]

kuli is biro?

02:16:43 [Shepard]

jup

02:16:44 [nikki_]

it's british

02:16:48 [nikki_]

un bic!

02:17:00 [Shepard]

short for kugelschreiber

02:17:06 [nikki_]

ahh

02:17:10 [fuchs]

ah, disc says Biro® :)

02:17:17 [fuchs]

so it's like Tempo in germany

02:17:22 [yole]

i get lost on this website btw

02:17:30 [nikki_]

ohh, ballpoint pen

02:17:35 [nikki_]

* nikki_ always has to look that up

02:17:37 [fuchs]

s/disc/dict/

02:17:38 [Shepard]

don't worry, happens to everyone :)

02:17:46 [nikki_]

is it really a registered name?

02:17:48 [nikki_]

hmmm!

02:17:52 [nikki_]

* nikki_ didn't know that

02:18:57 [fuchs]

but NoArtistStyle sounds interesting ... *reading* :)

02:19:22 [nikki_]

papermate make erasable biros now, but they don't write so well :(

02:19:32 [Shepard]

it was already described elsewhere, just copied the sentence over and added some blabla

02:19:47 [Shepard]

just didn't have that page before

02:20:00 [fuchs]

"First, we must distinguish digital and non-digital silence. " *rotfl*

02:20:05 [yole]

lol

02:20:06 [yole]

* yole bows

02:20:53 [yole]

Shepard should i reply to you here or on the wiki?

02:21:18 [Shepard]

if it's of any importance for other users, on the wiki please

02:21:28 [yole]

(and how should one decide between using the wiki or the mailing list for discussion?)

02:21:34 [fuchs]

. o O ( [white noise with some pink sparkles and a little green dot in the center] )

02:22:20 [Shepard]

fuchs: http://www.musicbrainz.org/album/7b7afef3-7f0d-417a-8604-992e163ef9ff.html

02:22:27 [fuchs]

yole: if you want someone to read it, use the list ;)

02:22:53 [Shepard]

or should I say enjoy the silence? :)

02:23:33 [yole]

btw, my wiki submissions are 'art' and i shoudl be identified in the artist in the musicbrainzwikibrainz meta-database ;-)

02:24:58 [Shepard]

because you don't capitalize the first word?

02:25:40 [fuchs]

but we're not art brainz :/

02:25:53 [fuchs]

maybe we could add you as abootleg rip

02:25:55 [yole]

lol--actually, there's a debate to be had some day there--i'm against capitalizing sentences, lol

02:27:09 [yole]

since otherwise you can't tell the difference between "god is dead." and "God is dead."

02:27:36 [yole]

i still do it (capitalize sentences) though, because academia beats it into me

02:28:21 [flamingcow]

yole: how about you be against capitalizing proper nouns instead? :)

02:29:40 [yole]

flamingcow lol

02:29:42 [yole]

heiracy@

02:29:43 [yole]

!

02:30:59 [Mudcrow]

* Mudcrow is against the use of z instead of s :p

02:31:33 [flamingcow]

i'm all for "ou" instead of "o" :-P

02:33:52 [Mudcrow]

I never understood the reasoning behind changing the spelling of colour and flavour, i mean, colour, its six letters, it's not THAT hard to remember

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02:35:01 [inhouseweb]

* inhouseweb waves

02:35:17 [inhouseuk]

cool :) that works

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02:36:09 [Shepard]

does everyone join with browser clones now?

02:36:34 [yole]

Mudcrow it all happened in boston

02:36:43 [yole]

they wanted to revise everything

02:37:39 [inhouseuk]

Shepard: nope, I was just setting one up for a temporary solution for people who can't install an irc client and need help

02:39:44 [Shepard]

oki

02:39:46 [Shepard]

night

02:39:50 [Shepard]

* Shepard was send to bed

02:40:25 [Mudcrow]

http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=4358612 have some yes votes please, I tagged the wrong album

02:50:04 [inhouseuk]

Mudcrow: you can do a move discid without a vote

02:51:00 [inhouseuk]

if you've already added it to the correct album, just move it over the top

02:51:12 [Mudcrow]

I'm too stupid to think of that

02:52:28 [inhouseuk]

nope not stupid, you just didn't know :)

02:53:47 [inhouseuk]

ah, except move discid doesn't work too well on VA albums

02:54:15 [Mudcrow]

Disc IDs can only be moved to albums with the same number of tracks. Since this artist does not have any other albums with 20 tracks, disc ID ufsexCItSRYLymCrj2tsPFK6gfU- cannot be moved.

02:54:50 [inhouseuk]

Mudcrow: yes, sorry I didn't realise it was a VA album

02:55:19 [inhouseuk]

please resubmit the remove

02:55:30 [inhouseuk]

* inhouseuk hits himself around the head

02:57:04 [Mudcrow]

http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=4358658 :)

02:57:33 [inhouseuk]

* inhouseuk voted

02:59:53 [Mudcrow]

thanks

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03:01:24 [Mudcrow]

the track times don't look right on that disc id, has track 8 at 12:01

03:02:41 [inhouseuk]

strange. could have been a misread of the CD

03:03:24 [Mudcrow]

I'm ripping it right now, but the times look weird, lots of short songs and that 12:01 in track 8

03:04:01 [inhouseuk]

is it marked as being copy protected?

03:04:49 [inhouseuk]

there is one copy protection mechanism that slightly corrupts the TOC on the CD

03:05:28 [inhouseuk]

* inhouseuk hates DRM

03:05:32 [Mudcrow]

its a cheapo compilation, no copy protected marked on it, not much of anything marked on it

03:06:22 [inhouseuk]

maybe a cheap pressing that your drive had a little problem with

03:07:23 [Mudcrow]

possibly, it took a while to recognise it

03:10:17 [Jetpack]

maybe a hidden track at the end

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03:13:19 [yole]

how do i subscribe to a wiki page?

03:13:25 [inhouseuk]

!weather london united kingdom

03:13:31 [BrainzBot_]

London, United Kingdom: 27°F / -2.8°C, Clear

03:13:34 [yole]

i don't see it under 'more actions'

03:14:21 [inhouseuk]

the text just to the left of more actions

03:14:36 [inhouseuk]

that says subscribe :)

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03:15:10 [yole]

oh wait i'm not logged in

03:15:15 [yole]

even though i chose 'log in permanently'

03:17:46 [Mudcrow]

the track time is correct, its an extremely long live version of sexual healing

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03:17:54 [yole]

wtf is the wiki a separate account?

03:17:56 [yole]

from the main page?

03:19:06 [inhouseuk]

yole: it just hasn't been implemented yet

03:19:21 [inhouseuk]

* inhouseuk doesn't know whether it would be possible

03:19:50 [yole]

what hasn't been implemented?

03:20:00 [yole]

the wiki account or the permanent login?

03:20:22 [yole]

permanent login would require a permanent universe :-)

03:20:31 [inhouseuk]

and currently (since yesterday) the wiki and the main site are running on servers separated my a few hundred miles

03:20:43 [inhouseuk]

yole: same account for wiki and main site

03:21:06 [Mudcrow]

didnt the wiki get moved to the new server?

03:21:23 [inhouseuk]

nope, not yet

03:21:29 [Mudcrow]

I thought it was just the TRM server left to be moved

03:22:32 [inhouseuk]

$ host wiki.musicbrainz.org

03:22:33 [inhouseuk]

wiki.musicbrainz.org is an alias for zim.musicbrainz.org.

03:22:35 [inhouseuk]

zim.musicbrainz.org has address 216.218.240.152

03:22:55 [inhouseuk]

still at hurricane electric

03:23:44 [inhouseuk]

the mailing lists are still running on zim as well

03:24:35 [fuchs]

and cvs

03:24:42 [inhouseuk]

* inhouseuk nods

03:25:00 [fuchs]

btw, is ftp online again?

03:25:49 [inhouseuk]

fuchs: yes but only allowing active ftp and http

03:26:03 [fuchs]

ah active, thx for the hint :)

03:26:11 [inhouseuk]

passive doesn't work

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03:41:10 [fuchs]

my bed is calling, it wants to spoon with me - good night :)

03:44:39 [inhouseuk]

night fuchs

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04:05:06 [mustaqila]

Why'd that make me laugh :/

04:05:15 [mustaqila]

And more importantly what the hell am I doing awake :\

04:07:08 [ruaok]

* ruaok is back (gone 24:45:13)

04:07:14 [ruaok]

* ruaok rolls in 24 hours later

04:09:26 [inhouseuk]

* inhouseuk waves

04:11:07 [ruaok]

* ruaok waves back

04:11:27 [inhouseuk]

when are you going to HE?

04:12:10 [ruaok]

6 or so hours ago.

04:12:25 [mustaqil_]

ruaok has harnessed time travel I see

04:12:30 [inhouseuk]

ah, you've already been

04:12:49 [ruaok]

took me 4:20 to turn off the servers, unrack them, drive to slo, rerack and configure the servers.

04:13:01 [ruaok]

google directions says the drive time is 3:20. :-)

04:13:05 [ruaok]

not too shabby. :-)

04:13:23 [mustaqil_]

Real life always throws things up to bite your arse ; )

04:13:24 [ruaok]

* ruaok was flying low, not driving fast

04:13:32 [inhouseuk]

and you kept to the speed limits?

04:13:36 [ruaok]

HA!

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07:02:20 [g0llum]

moin!

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07:11:34 [g0llum]

hi Joan_W

07:11:45 [Joan_W]

Now that I have finally found my way here, is it alright if I just sit and listen for a while until I find my way around?

07:12:41 [g0llum]

of course

07:13:32 [g0llum]

something else: please consider using text-only e-mail format when posting to the mailing list, else it won't show up correctly in the archives http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-users/2006-March/022839.html

07:16:23 [Joan_W]

Morning - glad I was not talking to myself

07:17:02 [Joan_W]

I realised about the text only format after I had sent my email. I re-wrote it as text only and will not make that mistake again.

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07:32:46 [Joan_W]

Have to get husband off to work. See you later. Bye

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07:37:54 [nikki_]

* nikki_ yawns

07:38:31 [ruaok]

moin

07:38:37 [ruaok]

rats, I can't find bender

07:38:41 [nikki_]

moin moin

07:38:43 [nikki_]

err

07:38:56 [nikki_]

what do you mean by that?

07:38:59 [ruaok]

I had him earlier and then unleashed him on the net.

07:39:04 [ruaok]

but which IP?

07:43:55 [ruaok]

aw fuck it. he's doing his job. I'll let him be

07:45:09 [nikki_]

* nikki_ is reminded of http://bash.org/?5273

07:47:35 [ruaok]

yes, simliar, yet complete opposite. I know exactly where bender is:

07:47:36 [ruaok]

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sll=35.263453,-120.650933&sspn=0.122222,0.133381&hl=en&q=digital+west+networks&latlng=35263453,-120650933,14472800039696032887

07:47:50 [ruaok]

but not his IP. I *hope* he is doing his job. :)

07:48:02 [ruaok]

* ruaok could look it up. zim knows

07:48:33 [nikki_]

* nikki_ grins

07:49:28 [ruaok]

so, to get a trm, is a bit of laughable matter atm.

07:50:07 [ruaok]

you send a request to Fremont, which then sends it on 200 miles to slo. Gets worked on, sent back to fremont and then out to whoever asked for it.

07:50:23 [nikki_]

* nikki_ giggles

07:50:28 [ruaok]

but what's 200 miles in the grand scheme of things?

07:50:48 [ruaok]

er 400

07:52:02 [ruaok]

* ruaok goes to bed in an effort to 'normalize

07:52:08 [ruaok]

' his sleept schedule

07:52:15 [ruaok]

* ruaok fusses at the keyboard

07:52:21 [ruaok]

ok, bed time!

07:52:24 [ruaok]

* ruaok is away: snore

07:52:47 [nikki_]

schlaf gut

08:05:00 [g0llum]

moin nikki_

08:05:07 [nikki_]

moin g0llum!

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10:05:06 [chocomo]

how typical is it, that I who do not use TRM's all that much, but seldom, tries to tag some files *just* when the trm-server is down?

10:07:00 [inhouseuk]

morning mo

10:07:17 [Mudcrow]

morning

10:07:50 [Mudcrow]

TRM server is up

10:08:28 [chocomo]

yes but it wasn't when I tried yesterday and knew nothing about the down bit

10:08:39 [chocomo]

(I just read some announcement thing)

10:09:01 [chocomo]

(I never read users. just I came there because a mailing list post was linked in the chat)

10:09:07 [chocomo]

goodmorning inhouse

10:09:13 [chocomo]

and Mudcrow

10:09:27 [SenRepus]

morning mo!

10:09:39 [chocomo]

hei sen!

10:10:53 [inhouseuk]

mo did you see the modnotes I added for the benefit of our italian queen vandal

10:11:05 [chocomo]

erhh...

10:11:17 [chocomo]

oh

10:11:20 [inhouseuk]

urls to cover images

10:11:25 [chocomo]

italian, queen-vandal

10:11:40 [chocomo]

I read it as italian-queen, vandal. lol

10:11:48 [inhouseuk]

:)

10:11:48 [chocomo]

no let me see

10:12:37 [chocomo]

jup

10:12:44 [chocomo]

there it is. just like on my version

10:12:55 [inhouseuk]

* inhouseuk nods

10:13:09 [inhouseuk]

my copy is at my fathers, but I know it is the same

10:13:35 [chocomo]

I doubth that 'queenonline' is official, it doesn't really look that way

10:13:40 [chocomo]

it looks more like a fan site

10:13:51 [inhouseuk]

yeah, but the scan is correct

10:14:58 [chocomo]

I meantthe place he linked, the place you linked is a difdfferent one

10:15:34 [inhouseuk]

sorry my brain isn't working - too tired

10:15:38 [chocomo]

aww

10:16:00 [chocomo]

^^

10:16:02 [chocomo]

hmm

10:16:34 [chocomo]

I seriously doubth that the "official" Queen site would only list 'mustapha' as the track on Jazz http://www.queenonline.com/da7378.htm

10:17:36 [inhouseuk]

although it does say that site is "©2006 Queen Productions Ltd"

10:18:05 [inhouseuk]

I think it is official, but just very inaccurate in places

10:20:13 [chocomo]

the main site looks to be just a mony wank

10:20:19 [chocomo]

I don't like it

10:20:34 [chocomo]

pfft reltones for your mobile

10:21:28 [chocomo]

he is so sure i nhis thing too

10:22:18 [chocomo]

hehe you added one for http://www.spobe.com/queen/Cover/Queen/Queen_-_Live_At_Wembley_86-back.jpg

10:22:19 [chocomo]

too

10:22:21 [chocomo]

thanks

10:22:24 [inhouseuk]

yup

10:25:18 [juhae]

Italian Queen vandal, where?

10:25:23 [chocomo]

hi juhae

10:25:27 [juhae]

Himo

10:25:46 [inhouseuk]

juhae: look at the open mods on Queen

10:26:26 [juhae]

Yarr ;/

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10:27:30 [juhae]

Heh, that "Wembley '86" album is one of the first cds I bought :)

10:28:26 [chocomo]

after years of hype, I was a it dissapointed

10:28:40 [chocomo]

also I was unfortiunate enough to get a version with copy protect on :(

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10:29:22 [juhae]

Arrg, maybe you can return it and ask for a refund

10:29:26 [juhae]

You know, broken cd and all

10:29:29 [chocomo]

lol it was years ago

10:29:33 [juhae]

Heh, okay

10:30:02 [chocomo]

besides i didn't really know about that then, after that though, I've always avoided/returned such

10:30:29 [inhouseuk]

mo you can vote 'no' on http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=4353269 now, I've just added the cover scan

10:31:49 [chocomo]

I meant to go back and redo my votes. because that was the firs I saw, after seeing the others I retought that that one might be wrong too

10:31:51 [chocomo]

thanks

10:32:04 [chocomo]

is that a live album?

10:32:12 [chocomo]

or compilation

10:32:35 [inhouseuk]

not sure

10:32:47 [inhouseuk]

* inhouseuk doesn't have it

10:33:48 [chocomo]

* chocomo either

10:33:56 [inhouseuk]

I think it is studio, but that needs checking

10:34:01 [chocomo]

* chocomo needsto get a hold of the other queen things he doesn't have

10:34:07 [chocomo]

my mother had all the vinyl records

10:34:17 [chocomo]

then she sold them to get money for food

10:34:20 [chocomo]

scanadlous! :p

10:34:23 [inhouseuk]

:(

10:34:56 [juhae]

I think all but the first two had quite big pressings so it shouldn't be that impossible to track down copies

10:35:05 [chocomo]

yes I know

10:35:21 [inhouseuk]

it just depends on how much you want to pay

10:35:26 [juhae]

Unless you want to go with the "record collector" (ie. pretentious asshole)-line and get the "first british pressing with a laser sticker on the sleeve and a rainbow-coloured album sticker" ;)

10:35:27 [chocomo]

I saw a 'news of this world' one in a store the other day. but i had no money with me as it kost 60 nOK

10:35:43 [chocomo]

* chocomo buys music to *listen* to it

10:35:52 [chocomo]

but I can't find that store now! :o

10:36:43 [chocomo]

I don't get wankers that buy books to put them i nthe bookshelfs, and cd's just so they *own'them, they don't even take the wrapper palstic off.. wtf

10:37:07 [chocomo]

buying books and music and movies just to collect them is.. weird

10:37:26 [chocomo]

unless you are *really* inot the gruop and *also* listen to the music

10:37:54 [juhae]

Yup

10:37:55 [warp]

chocomo: i buy enough stuff just to own it.

10:37:58 [chocomo]

but to own a release, and never listen to it.. wtf

10:38:17 [warp]

chocomo: but i still get it out of the wrapper and use it,.. it's just not the reason for buying it :)

10:38:50 [chocomo]

yes well I get that. I had listen to som muci before. downloaded it.. but I wanted to buy it to *own* it

10:39:18 [chocomo]

funnythough. the latest 20 or so msuical purchases of mine, where due to having dl music I liked or borrowin it from the library

10:39:39 [juhae]

That's the way it should go, you buy good music and delete the crap you don't like.

10:40:29 [chocomo]

that's what it was iek with that soad album I download loatsof stuff. then I figured the oens a I liked ,then i bought the one albu mwith the most of the songs I knew i liked

10:40:37 [chocomo]

(please don't yel lat me for liking soad)

10:41:02 [inhouseuk]

* inhouseuk still has a few dvds with cellophane on, only because I haven't found time to watch them

10:41:08 [chocomo]

:(

10:41:19 [chocomo]

* chocomo to, butthat's because my DUMB TV is borked

10:41:22 [juhae]

SOAD provides good humour, I've noticed a lot of local teenage wannabe-nazis like the band.

10:41:27 [juhae]

And don't notice any contradiction there.

10:41:30 [juhae]

Same with Slayer.

10:41:32 [chocomo]

I am not a wannabe natzy

10:41:35 [chocomo]

natzi

10:41:40 [juhae]

I didn't say you were. ;)

10:41:42 [chocomo]

see ? I an't even spell it right! :p

10:42:35 [chocomo]

most of their music is wtf freaky

10:42:39 [chocomo]

I like wtf freaky

10:45:24 [SenRepus]

!weather 98045

10:45:30 [BrainzBot_]

North Bend, WA (98045): 50°F / 10.0°C, Mostly Cloudy

10:45:36 [SenRepus]

woot

10:45:40 [juhae]

So do I, to an extent at least. Something like Fantomas was nice to see live, but I don't think I'd bother with that kind of stuff at home.

10:45:42 [SenRepus]

its getting warmer here

10:47:31 [inhouseuk]

!weather london united kingdom

10:47:34 [BrainzBot_]

London, United Kingdom: 36°F / 2.2°C, Fair

10:47:58 [chocomo]

!weather Oslo norway

10:48:00 [BrainzBot_]

Oslo, Norway: 23°F / -5.0°C, Mostly Cloudy

10:48:30 [chocomo]

it is also windy like woa

10:49:13 [juhae]

Isn't Norway always a bit windy? ;)

10:49:26 [inhouseuk]

the wind makes the temperature a lot worse

10:49:49 [chocomo]

no and yes

10:50:04 [chocomo]

actulaly the wind has subsided somewhat so I can go out and buy cola + food

10:50:23 [chocomo]

just a little neocereal first ^^

10:50:33 [inhouseuk]

mo what is oslo like in the summer?

10:50:43 [chocomo]

extreamly sunny and warm

10:50:46 [chocomo]

for two days :p

10:51:15 [chocomo]

its very.. if the weather settles it settles

10:51:16 [inhouseuk]

that sounds identical to british weather

10:51:28 [chocomo]

lol

10:52:18 [chocomo]

usually its alot sun (but not warm enough) around april may. cold until about last part of july, then wamr until october

10:52:39 [chocomo]

then winteter inbetwene everything

10:52:45 [chocomo]

winter even

10:52:57 [inhouseuk]

it could be worse

10:53:13 [chocomo]

jupp

10:53:49 [inhouseuk]

places that have constantly nice weather can get boring

10:53:58 [chocomo]

* chocomo laughs at that idea

10:54:04 [inhouseuk]

* inhouseuk glances at ruaok

10:54:13 [chocomo]

well i gues. but

10:54:16 [chocomo]

I can't relate

10:54:18 [chocomo]

not really

10:54:38 [chocomo]

this bad weather bores you quite quicly, the novelty of it wears off

10:55:12 [inhouseuk]

yes, but at least it isn't nearly the same the whole year round

10:55:55 [chocomo]

its nearly bad weather all year round :)

10:56:06 [inhouseuk]

* inhouseuk chuckles

11:15:39 [SenRepus]

11 months and 28 days of winter?

11:16:27 [SenRepus]

eh i misread

11:30:29 [inhouseuk]

mo http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=4359929 http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=4359935

11:32:29 [juhae]

haha

11:32:36 [juhae]

like a duracell bunny

11:48:56 [Shepard]

* Shepard yawns and stretches

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* inhouseuk goes to lunch

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12:20:25 [SenRepus]

i have no idea what went on with those queen mods

12:20:32 [SenRepus]

im going to bed now though so dont bother explaining

12:20:34 [SenRepus]

night everyone

12:21:34 [Shepard]

night sen

12:49:16 [g0llum]

inhouseuk: o.O

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13:27:17 [Mudcrow]

stupid bloody landrovers, mines buggered again

13:28:47 [Mudcrow]

Its taken me 9 hours to fit a new stereo and 4 new speakers, stereo works perfectly, bloody landrover refuses to start

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* luks sighs

14:03:03 [wolfsong]

morning

14:03:21 [wolfsong]

did the relocation go smoothly?

14:15:45 [g0llum]

as far as i know, yes

14:15:47 [g0llum]

hi luks

14:16:00 [g0llum]

some votes, please http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=4360319

14:17:09 [chocomo]

brrr

14:17:28 [chocomo]

* chocomo has fajitas and sushi

14:18:57 [g0llum]

bon appetit

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14:30:54 [Shepard]

evil Gecks removing my discussion comments from PartNumberStyle >:(

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15:13:35 [chocomo]

evil geckko man

15:14:46 [chocomo]

aahha I now se the pink field at http://www.last.fm/settings/transactions.php that muz was talking about

15:15:02 [mustaqil_]

: )

15:15:09 [chocomo]

it may not have seen it for that I had to renew my subscription today

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* Shepard does that as well now

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16:02:07 [g0llum]

*seufz*

16:02:22 [Shepard]

was' los?

16:03:18 [g0llum]

di scheise geht ned

16:03:32 [Shepard]

ohhh

16:03:36 [Shepard]

armes g0llumli

16:10:12 [g0llum]

du sagst es :)

16:10:46 [g0llum]

* g0llum schunkelt etwas zu den geruhsamen klängen von capharnaum

16:11:19 [Shepard]

caph.. ich frag' am besten gar nicht erst

16:17:55 [nikki_]

ned?

16:18:39 [Shepard]

nicht

16:18:45 [Shepard]

dialect

16:20:11 [Shepard]

people visiting my last.fm profile I can in no way relate to my musical taste or posts I make

16:20:23 [Shepard]

* Shepard shakes his head his style this time

16:20:42 [nikki_]

wow...

16:21:00 [nikki_]

is it weird swiss german?

16:21:06 [ruaok]

* ruaok nods

16:21:16 [ruaok]

moin!

16:21:16 [ruaok]

moin!

16:21:24 [nikki_]

I managed to understand nix without looking it up, but not ned :o

16:21:25 [Shepard]

did you know that shaking the head for yes and no is switched in Greece?

16:21:26 [nikki_]

moin ruaok!

16:21:30 [nikki_]

nope

16:21:31 [ruaok]

* ruaok tries to wake up

16:21:38 [nikki_]

* nikki_ learnt something today, then!

16:21:41 [Shepard]

no, it's for a lot of dialects

16:21:51 [nikki_]

well, I learnt about partial fractions in maths

16:21:54 [Shepard]

and unfortunately seems to be modern

16:22:12 [fuchs]

moin ruaok, you won't believe what arrived 2 days ago ;)

16:24:19 [Shepard]

the phone bill?

16:24:54 [fuchs]

no the book he send >50 days ago ;)

16:24:57 [Shepard]

hmm.. mine didn't arrive yet

16:25:27 [ruaok]

fuchs: no shit, finally?

16:25:28 [fuchs]

good old Deutsche Post + DHL ;)

16:25:36 [ruaok]

god damn. deutsche post

16:25:53 [fuchs]

only 42 days longer than to norway :)

16:26:01 [ruaok]

lame.

16:26:18 [ruaok]

fuchs: on the asin patch you checked in... is there a script that need to be run at all?

16:26:25 [Shepard]

I guess it was lying around in some forgotten train for days, so the DB is not innocent, too!

16:26:27 [ruaok]

I haven't had the chance to look in detail yet

16:26:47 [fuchs]

ruaok: yep, the 2 scripts in admin/update/ need to be run after the new code is running

16:26:51 [nikki_]

the book I sent my friend in america in early january only got there last week

16:27:13 [fuchs]

ruaok: maybe we should use this dir for all such "run-only-once" update scripts?

16:27:38 [ruaok]

yes, that's been the common use for that directory.

16:28:01 [ruaok]

or is it admin/sql/update ?

16:28:08 [ruaok]

which is the one I was thinking of

16:28:08 [fuchs]

hmm, i created the dir ;)

16:28:16 [ruaok]

ah.

16:28:25 [fuchs]

there are only sql script, no?

16:28:34 [fuchs]

+s

16:28:34 [ruaok]

no, .pl scripts too

16:28:56 [fuchs]

well, then I'll move them over there

16:29:00 [ruaok]

usually noted with the day of the release, so we know that we need to run it.

16:29:03 [ruaok]

super, thanks

16:29:21 [ruaok]

just do an ls and the usage becomes clear

16:32:45 [Shepard]

hmm.. when I look through the window I see nothing but a large "Krombacher". someone tell the dude to move his truck away from there!

16:34:04 [fuchs]

ruaok: you checked in the new logo to the january branch only, was that intentionally?

16:36:05 [Shepard]

* Shepard ist mal kochen

16:36:14 [fuchs]

Shepard: ich nehm auch was

16:36:16 [chocomo]

armes g0llumli?

16:38:26 [nikki_]

poor little g0llum I thought

16:38:37 [chocomo]

aahh

16:38:43 [chocomo]

dakar g0llum lillen

16:38:57 [chocomo]

that was svorsk

16:39:04 [nikki_]

you use arme too, don't you?

16:39:12 [chocomo]

arme vesen, yes

16:39:24 [chocomo]

its rarer though. but yes

16:39:38 [chocomo]

it was more the -li suffix that got me

16:39:49 [chocomo]

I was curious if it was just slang or had a mening

16:40:31 [ruaok]

fuchs: yes. I will merge that branch back to HEAD, then fork off the new release branch maybe tomorrow, maybe sat.

16:40:39 [nikki_]

http://german.about.com/library/blhunde01.htm says Names ending in -chen, -lein, or -li are diminutives (little, y-ending in English).

16:40:47 [chocomo]

* chocomo wonders about adding a ticet about those asins

16:41:02 [chocomo]

ja. like sheppy instead of shep

16:43:20 [fuchs]

chocomo: which?

16:43:30 [chocomo]

eh?

16:43:31 [fuchs]

chocomo: still something wrong with asins?

16:43:41 [chocomo]

oh

16:46:12 [fuchs]

oh yes or oh no? ;)

16:46:30 [chocomo]

I'm typing

16:46:37 [fuchs]

oh

16:46:39 [fuchs]

;)

16:46:52 [chocomo]

when accociating some album to this .co.uk asin, and if the default is set to .com then it will sohw the .com (wich is fine and shouldl be like that) but soemtimes (I noticed with the Uriah Heep asins) is that the .com version has extra tracks, when the UK doesn't. the thing I was wondering is that maybe an option could be made i nsettings to 'override default amazon-shop when asin link is present' inhouse mentioned we don't want to

16:46:52 [chocomo]

do that for people who then would get redirected to a version they'd have to import (wich woudl more expensive be)

16:47:19 [nikki_]

I added a ticket for that...

16:47:19 [chocomo]

but for someone like me, where *any* amazon shop requires an import

16:47:29 [chocomo]

its just as expensive for me to buy for many one

16:47:33 [chocomo]

you did nikki?

16:47:35 [chocomo]

good1

16:47:55 [nikki_]

I think I used you as an example too

16:48:00 [chocomo]

:o

16:48:01 [nikki_]

or at least I had you in mind

16:48:02 [chocomo]

dude!

16:48:07 [chocomo]

oh+

16:48:10 [chocomo]

:o

16:48:12 [chocomo]

^^

16:48:18 [chocomo]

whats the ticket?

16:48:22 [nikki_]

looking

16:49:10 [fuchs]

chocomo: hmm, the .com asin links to a different release than the .co.uk one?

16:49:12 [nikki_]

http://test.musicbrainz.org/trac/ticket/1090

16:49:21 [chocomo]

fuchs: yes soemtimes

16:49:33 [chocomo]

a versino with extra tracks, bonus tracks

16:49:33 [fuchs]

chocomo: but that's amazon's fault

16:49:43 [chocomo]

yes but yes

16:49:58 [fuchs]

chocomo: if the asin is the same, it is always the same release no matter which amazon store you are at

16:50:19 [chocomo]

fuchs: : no

16:50:22 [chocomo]

"Not only are not all ASINs available on all the Amazon servers, people who don't live in a country with a local Amazon may not have any real preference as to which Amazon they shop at and the original non-imported CDs are often cheaper than importing imports. :)"

16:50:24 [fuchs]

there is sometimes wrong data in the track listing on the product page though

16:50:29 [chocomo]

hehe was was nikki

16:50:36 [fuchs]

chocomo: yes

16:50:41 [chocomo]

fuchs: no

16:50:43 [nikki_]

I did have you in mind for that!

16:51:02 [chocomo]

i've been messign aroudn with the uriah heep aasins on .co mand .co enough to know this

16:51:06 [chocomo]

:)

16:51:11 [fuchs]

chocomo: ask amazon, asins are globally unique

16:51:19 [luks]

chocomo: can you give me an example?

16:51:25 [chocomo]

sorry, I belive my own eyes over what they tell me :)

16:51:31 [chocomo]

sure

16:51:33 [chocomo]

gimme a sec

16:51:41 [nikki_]

I was specifically referring to cases where an ASIN doesn't exist, because I'm not experienced enough to know whether the same ASIN is a different release

16:51:49 [fuchs]

chocomo: yeah, then the album info is wrong, but when you order the thing, you'll always get the same release

16:52:01 [chocomo]

well I won't trust that

16:52:15 [nikki_]

like quite a few japanese albums don't exist outside of amazon.co.jp, for example.

16:52:29 [nikki_]

so amazin just says "huh? dunno what you're asking for"

16:52:31 [nikki_]

amazon.

16:52:34 [chocomo]

I have bought stuff from japans. it came quicker thna stuff from .com

16:53:20 [chocomo]

* chocomo falls down laughing

16:53:21 [chocomo]

http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=4360215

16:53:26 [chocomo]

'into the file'

16:53:30 [chocomo]

* chocomo rolls around laughing

16:54:14 [fuchs]

and the amazon buy link doesn't know about the server, it only sees the asin

16:54:43 [nikki_]

there's a file which redirects you to your preferred server, it seems

16:54:50 [chocomo]

* chocomo hates it

16:54:51 [nikki_]

* nikki_ doesn't think it should be that hard...

16:54:52 [chocomo]

:)

16:55:01 [fuchs]

yes, but if you say, i have no preference, which one should it use then?

16:55:02 [nikki_]

* nikki_ geht einkaufen...

16:55:08 [nikki_]

the one in the ASIN.

16:55:13 [nikki_]

er

16:55:15 [fuchs]

the asin is only the asin

16:55:16 [nikki_]

ASIN URL.

16:55:25 [chocomo]

I have no prefered ones. I want to vbuy japanese releases for mjapane, uk artists usually have better election in .co.uk

16:55:29 [nikki_]

the relationship has the full URL.

16:55:30 [fuchs]

the asin url is only in asin ARs

16:55:42 [nikki_]

well select them from the relationships then!

16:55:52 [fuchs]

that's too expensive

16:55:57 [chocomo]

bullshit

16:55:58 [chocomo]

see here

16:56:06 [chocomo]

http://musicbrainz.org/album/dfd2d7d0-7d61-4aa0-a14f-57ec4b5b76d5.html

16:56:07 [fuchs]

and it would mean messing around with AR data again

16:56:18 [ruaok]

* ruaok agrees with fuchs

16:56:24 [chocomo]

at the end of that annotiation thereis a link to the actual asin I used.

16:56:46 [chocomo]

its the british one. but (if your amazon is american chosen) you'll see the tracklistign is different

16:56:51 [chocomo]

damn

16:56:57 [chocomo]

that means we will lnever get this to work

16:56:58 [nikki_]

so basically, there's no point in storing the full URL because you won't use it?

16:57:17 [chocomo]

* chocomo gives up

16:57:44 [fuchs]

nikki_: only the coverurl and the asin are stored in the albummeta table

16:57:55 [nikki_]

I meant in the relationship

16:58:24 [nikki_]

e.g. I could write http://this.isnt.a.real.url/SOMEASINHERE because the URL is meaningless

16:58:38 [fuchs]

no

16:58:48 [chocomo]

then you just disproved your statement. really

16:58:58 [fuchs]

you need the server to create the correct image url

16:59:08 [chocomo]

uhuh which server?

16:59:24 [nikki_]

yet you say it's too expensive to use the server for the buy links?

17:00:00 [fuchs]

nikki_: the image url is created when the asin link is added, then stored in the album meta table

17:00:04 [nikki_]

* nikki_ really has to go now

17:00:22 [luks]

nikki_: no, the image url is created dynamically

17:00:33 [ruaok]

fuchs: thanks for implementing that! I'm happy with it!

17:00:36 [chocomo]

* chocomo doesn't see the point in adding asins then, actually

17:00:58 [chocomo]

oh i'm happy about it i love this functionality

17:01:20 [fuchs]

chocomo: too get a) the cover image and b) the link to your preferred store

17:01:37 [chocomo]

its just that *witch* this new functionlity, is so great, the old album matiching amason server choosing seems.. out of place

17:01:41 [fuchs]

-o

17:02:00 [ruaok]

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17:02:22 [chocomo]

my prefered store is the one that I orginginaly linked the aasin too

17:02:24 [chocomo]

actually

17:02:46 [chocomo]

mayge i'd want amazon.no prefered if there was such a thing. but threre isn't

17:03:52 [chocomo]

sorry if I didn't fit into your neat plan :(

17:04:23 [fuchs]

chocomo: i understand what you mean, but that's not practical, because you can also use import urls in the amazon ar

17:04:43 [fuchs]

as long as the server sells the release it doesn't matter

17:06:17 [chocomo]

fuchs: *everything* is an import to me

17:06:51 [ojnkpjg]

what about rune grammophon

17:06:58 [ojnkpjg]

they're domestic

17:07:17 [chocomo]

and I wanto since I have to make damn sure that I'm buying what I'm buying, I can't afford (literally) to just take the word for it that if I'm buyign the one on amazon.com with the extra tracks listed, I will lbe gettign the original

17:07:18 [fuchs]

chocomo: yes but you are arguingm, that you want to be directed to a server where the release is a local one and no import. But you can add an amazon.de AR for a UK release, as long as it is sold on amazon.de as an import

17:08:18 [chocomo]

but then i'l lbe directed to the amirican one where its alot more expensive!

17:08:28 [chocomo]

or am I misunderstanding you here?

17:08:42 [fuchs]

so you would be directed to amazon.de to buy the more expensive uk import, instead of the uk site where it is cheapest

17:08:43 [chocomo]

yes

17:08:44 [chocomo]

i meant

17:09:06 [chocomo]

I'l lbe redirected, to the one where its sold as a import. then i import the import (at inflated prices) here

17:09:22 [fuchs]

exactly

17:09:24 [nikki_]

we could just use the "can be bought at link" and piss everyone off, mo

17:09:39 [nikki_]

my mum's partner isn't here yet...

17:09:43 [chocomo]

but then its the adder of the asin 's responsibility to add the apropriate asin-server

17:10:09 [chocomo]

I always make sure I selectthe right one

17:10:17 [chocomo]

the most correct and lest expensive

17:10:50 [chocomo]

that's why it irritated me that it auto sends to an errouns (looking atleast) version that was more expensive and had bonus tracks

17:11:08 [chocomo]

that's not the link I set!

17:11:20 [chocomo]

I'll have to set my prefered amazon server all lthe time

17:11:49 [chocomo]

what if I should just select 'none' and it would fetch whatever was i nthe amason server's asin

17:11:56 [chocomo]

*that I linked*

17:12:53 [fuchs]

which it doesn't know at this

17:12:57 [fuchs]

+point

17:13:00 [chocomo]

im' only complaining because the new nifto.keen featuer allows one to link to more thna one server at different albums

17:13:19 [chocomo]

for exapmle the US releases of the Uriah Heep albums are cheper and better on the .com site

17:13:24 [chocomo]

so I use those links to them

17:13:28 [chocomo]

ok

17:13:36 [chocomo]

:)

17:14:11 [chocomo]

perhaps amend the ticet to add this feature that way then

17:14:16 [ojnkpjg]

mo, what's the average price for a cd in a shop there?

17:14:20 [chocomo]

hmm

17:14:35 [chocomo]

in the range 99-200

17:14:41 [chocomo]

averingin about 150

17:14:45 [ojnkpjg]

ok

17:14:47 [chocomo]

NOK of course

17:14:49 [ojnkpjg]

yes

17:15:17 [ojnkpjg]

so the low end is expensive :\

17:15:23 [ojnkpjg]

at least compared to here

17:15:35 [chocomo]

ojnkpjg: where is 'here'?

17:15:38 [ojnkpjg]

USA

17:15:45 [chocomo]

!money 99 NOK USD

17:15:50 [BrainzBot_]

99 NOK = 14.79654 USD

17:15:59 [ojnkpjg]

that's convenient

17:16:03 [chocomo]

hehe I know

17:16:08 [ojnkpjg]

i was just looking at the rune grammophon site

17:16:18 [ojnkpjg]

their cds are 135NOK each +30NOK shipping to USA

17:16:19 [chocomo]

the what?

17:16:20 [ojnkpjg]

which is on the high end

17:16:24 [ojnkpjg]

some record label in norway

17:16:27 [chocomo]

aha

17:16:44 [chocomo]

never heard of it. the most used online we got here is cdon.com

17:17:04 [chocomo]

the best part is that you cxan order there and et the bil lwith the cd i nthe mail

17:17:11 [ojnkpjg]

it's a small label that puts out weird music :P

17:17:21 [ojnkpjg]

weird by most people's standards, anyway

17:17:24 [chocomo]

its got .no .se .dk .eu

17:17:27 [chocomo]

hmm

17:17:32 [chocomo]

* chocomo likes weird

17:17:49 [ojnkpjg]

http://www.runegrammofon.com

17:19:04 [ojnkpjg]

19 tracks covering eight years of releases. Price to be confirmed closer to release, but it will not be cheap.

17:19:07 [ojnkpjg]

that's nice of them

17:19:07 [ojnkpjg]

hehe

17:29:20 [Shepard]

lol mo, didgy

17:36:15 [chocomo]

heh

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17:53:03 [ruaok]

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagaaaaaaaaaa!

17:53:29 [chocomo]

kleeeptooooooo

17:56:40 [ruaok]

:-)

17:58:42 [chocomo]

juuum

17:58:47 [chocomo]

* chocomo just ate some sushi

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18:30:22 [Shepard]

omg.. thunderbird marked one of my send mails as a phishing mail

18:30:31 [Shepard]

that's sanity's end

18:50:47 [chocomo]

wtf

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18:52:33 [ojnkpjg]

switch to mutt, be happy

18:53:00 [warp]

* warp isn't too happy with mutt

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18:58:36 [ojnkpjg]

what else is there

18:59:02 [mustaqil_]

Evolution?

18:59:15 [ojnkpjg]

for console, i mean

18:59:20 [ojnkpjg]

i don't need a gui for mail

18:59:31 [ojnkpjg]

it just encourages bad behavior

18:59:33 [ojnkpjg]

like html email

18:59:53 [mustaqil_]

Ah right

18:59:55 [mustaqil_]

Hmmm

19:00:28 [ojnkpjg]

i do like mutt, but getting it setup to meet your desires is a proecss

19:00:32 [ojnkpjg]

a process, too

19:00:44 [ojnkpjg]

but i did that once years ago

19:00:51 [ojnkpjg]

and i lived happily ever after

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19:05:09 [yllona]

that's better

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19:42:19 [Jetpack]

* Jetpack thinks beyonce is super gorgeous

19:42:40 [yllona]

me too! amazing really

19:45:23 [Jetpack]

i had a girlfriend once who looked like her when she did her make up right, except a chinese version

19:46:01 [mustaqil_]

* mustaqil_ assumes that you're on about Beyoncé Knowles?

19:46:05 [Jetpack]

looking forward to the new pink panther

19:46:34 [yllona]

a chinese girl with a booty like that????

19:48:34 [Shepard]

Jetpack: me too!

19:51:40 [ruaok]

booty? got pic?

19:53:14 [Jetpack]

the new pink panther has yet another scene where guy tries to take off fake-disguise from someone else's face except they're not wearing a disguise

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19:57:51 [Shepard]

hi :)

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20:10:59 [yllona]

ruaok: we were discussing Beyoncé Knowles, pics are everywhere

20:12:10 [yllona]

ruaok: do you use a virtual desktop on OS X?

20:12:12 [ruaok]

oh. ok.

20:12:31 [ruaok]

* ruaok is familiar with _that_ bootie

20:13:39 [yllona]

as my brothers say - "Proof that God exists, and He is good"

20:29:48 [mustaqil_]

* mustaqil_ isn't keen on Beyoncé

20:30:11 [mustaqil_]

* mustaqil_ has developed a strange liking towards Doro Pesch as of late though

20:41:49 [SenRepus]

can anyone suggest a good headset w/ good earphones and a microphone?

20:42:07 [SenRepus]

id like earphones that complety cover my ears and drown out outside noise

20:44:01 [g0llum]

with surround sound or not?

20:44:47 [ruaok]

SenRepus: you're sliiiiiding! you'll never come back!

20:45:24 [g0llum]

hehe ;)

20:45:25 [ruaok]

yllona: yes, I try to, but they mostly all suck (re virtual desktops)

20:45:33 [g0llum]

SenRepus: i'm quite fond of this one... http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00011N2XK/026-5362489-5925200

20:45:51 [SenRepus]

what ruaok?

20:45:54 [g0llum]

but then again, a bit overkill for WoW probably :-)

20:46:01 [yllona]

ruaok: codetek seems okay, but won't work with growl

20:46:01 [g0llum]

that's what ruaok meant, i'm sure

20:46:28 [SenRepus]

its not for WoW ive been using headsets for years

20:46:46 [ruaok]

yllona: growl?

20:46:57 [ruaok]

I've been using the codetek one, but it stopped working in 10.4.4

20:47:12 [SenRepus]

im tired of listening to the drone of the dry cleaners downstairs all day

20:47:29 [SenRepus]

and im tired of my ears getting sore from the pressure of this headset pressing on them to stay tight to my head

20:47:47 [yllona]

SenRepus: i can find good stereo/surround headphones, but have never found a decent set with built-in stereo mic. all the consumer headsets i've seen have mono microphones on the headsets

20:47:49 [SenRepus]

im tired of all the loud muffler assholes making it so i cant hear my shit

20:47:51 [Shepard]

* Shepard imagines turning on music and still hearing the vacuume cleaner... *looking at BrianG*

20:48:55 [SenRepus]

g0llum: that set looks nice and it wont snag my dreads and loose hairs. that's the worst

20:49:02 [ruaok]

hehehehehe

20:49:03 [ruaok]

So as not to be outdone by all the redneck, hillbilly, and Texan jokes, you know you're from California if:

20:49:03 [ruaok]

1. Your coworker has 8 body piercings and none are visible.

20:49:11 [ruaok]

3. You take a bus and are shocked at two people carrying on a conversation in English.

20:49:17 [ruaok]

5. You can't remember . . is pot illegal?

20:49:27 [ruaok]

11. Unlike back home, the guy at 8:30 am at Starbucks wearing a baseball cap and sunglasses who looks like George Clooney really IS George Clooney.

20:49:39 [ruaok]

16. It's barely sprinkling rain outside, so you leave for work an hour early to avoid all the weather-related accidents

20:49:56 [ruaok]

19. The Terminator is your governor.

20:50:01 [ruaok]

Sigh. All too true.

20:50:38 [SenRepus]

g0llum: are those earphones big enough to actually cover your ears completely?

20:50:49 [SenRepus]

this noise is starting to drive me insane

20:50:55 [g0llum]

yeah

20:51:01 [yllona]

yes, especially down south... celebrity avoidance is damn near impossible in certain parts of town

20:51:03 [g0llum]

they are quite huge, actually.

20:51:34 [SenRepus]

is the mic useable at least?

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20:51:42 [g0llum]

definitely not for carrying around. (the amp box would be a nice goodie to carry on your belt, though) :-)

20:51:54 [g0llum]

ruaok can tell, i've been using it for skyping

20:52:05 [g0llum]

not too bad, i think

20:52:10 [ruaok]

ya work ok.

20:52:13 [SenRepus]

they wont leave my computer

20:52:22 [g0llum]

they are cool for games with surround

20:52:27 [SenRepus]

* SenRepus puts in ear plugs

20:52:33 [ruaok]

I just ordered a bluetooth headset for my cell. I'm hopin to use it for skype too.

20:52:36 [g0llum]

really create a 3d feeling

20:53:03 [SenRepus]

yea thats why i started using headsets, great for playing MOHAA with, you can always tell where people are by their footsteps

20:53:13 [SenRepus]

my mic stopped working on this set

20:54:15 [yllona]

if anyone knows of headset with stereo mic, pls l et me know

20:54:53 [Shepard]

* Shepard turns the music louder so he doesn't have to hear the tv

20:54:56 [BrianG]

what do you need a stereo mic for?

20:55:15 [SenRepus]

i honestly dont know if mine is stereo but i wouldnt recommend this headset for anyone. ever. peice of shit.

20:55:32 [yllona]

cuz i talk to musicians and they bitch about mono. hurts their *sensitive* ears... no kidding

20:55:35 [yllona]

'

20:57:13 [BrianG]

wow. even if the mono signal is comeing out of both channels?

20:57:21 [yllona]

yep.

20:58:17 [yllona]

so i use a desktop stero mic, and headphones together

21:00:50 [BrianG]

it must suck for them to listen to talk radio

21:01:01 [SenRepus]

http://geizhals.at/deutschland/a43022.html this is the headset i have now. it is covered in tape to hold it together

21:03:31 [yllona]

sen: These are awesome , and don't get caught in curly hair: http://www.andreaelectronics.com/

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21:08:54 [SenRepus]

yea but i need something that covers up this neverending drone noise from downstairs

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21:11:18 [Jetpack]

i use Sennheiser HD 202 and am very happy with it

21:11:50 [Jetpack]

but g0llum's 5.1 one looks kewl

21:17:09 [yllona]

sen i had that kind of noise for more than a year when the house behind my was being renovated. i never found anything that blocked the noise satisfactorily.

21:17:39 [yllona]

some ppl swear by those white noise generators, but the white noise is annoying too :)

21:27:41 [SenRepus]

whats a white noise generator?

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21:39:30 [ojnkpjg]

0a machine that generates white noise :)

21:39:40 [SenRepus]

whats white noise :p

21:39:49 [mustaqila]

That hissing noise stuff

21:39:57 [mustaqila]

They use it in interrogation methods on some people

21:40:22 [ojnkpjg]

examples are the noise a fan or an AC might make

21:40:29 [ojnkpjg]

that kind of things

21:40:31 [ojnkpjg]

thing.

21:40:35 [mustaqila]

Or a blank VHS

21:40:53 [SenRepus]

ok, thats what i thought

21:41:01 [SenRepus]

TVs make noise no matter what

21:41:24 [mustaqila]

* mustaqila nods

21:41:39 [SenRepus]

i dont mind fan noise

21:41:49 [derGraph]

If you filter out some frequencies, white noise might also sound like rain or a waterfall or wind or ...

21:41:56 [mustaqila]

Of course if you're being interrogated, under the Geneva Convention you're only obliged to divulge 4 items of information

21:42:06 [ojnkpjg]

yeah, they sell fancy machines that do that

21:42:16 [ojnkpjg]

money well-spent, no doubt

21:42:34 [mustaqila]

Some people have use for them

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21:42:56 [mustaqila]

They make for effective methods to make someone "crumble" when under pressure

21:43:21 [mustaqila]

Lock them in a lightless room, deprive them of their sense other than the white noise and force them to sit in pressure positions and they usually give in heh

21:45:58 [Shepard]

water drops do as well

21:49:32 [ojnkpjg]

a dark room with white noise sounds rather pleasant

21:49:50 [ojnkpjg]

the pressure positions not so much

21:53:49 [derGraph]

As far as I recall, white noise may also be used as a therapy against tinnitus. Maybe because the noise is more intense than the noise they always hear...

21:54:35 [Shepard]

peeeeeeeeep

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22:46:09 [teleGUISE_]

"8 track was a consumer format, 4 track never was" INCORRECT -- I have 4 track tapes that were sold for consumer purchase .. 4 track IS a legitimate consumer format

22:46:28 [chocomo]

you did not discuss the adition however

22:46:38 [chocomo]

you just added them witouth talking to me

22:47:08 [teleGUISE_]

why do I have to discuss it.. it is a wiki proposal... listing possibilities

22:47:24 [chocomo]

it is *my* proposal, it needs to be ordered propelry

22:48:03 [teleGUISE_]

never knew the wiki was yours and I did follow your format

22:48:29 [chocomo]

stop being melodramatic please

22:48:33 [chocomo]

that is me

22:48:34 [chocomo]

:)

22:48:35 [teleGUISE_]

kma mo

22:48:40 [chocomo]

hæ?

22:48:43 [teleGUISE_]

:O

22:49:15 [teleGUISE_]

if you would like i will send you pictures of my in-car 4 track player and 4 track tapes

22:49:47 [teleGUISE_]

it was quadraphonic 4 channel sound wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy before surround sound was thought about

22:50:00 [chocomo]

tele: I'm ignorign you

22:50:19 [teleGUISE_]

fine then the wiki was correct and shall be listed to reflect that

22:50:25 [chocomo]

instead I'm discussion th the possible addition of other types with someoien who has the sense to discus it normally

22:51:21 [teleGUISE_]

... it's not spam ... and I included information to what it was

22:51:37 [Shepard]

teleGUISE_: thanks for trying to make me happy :P

22:51:56 [teleGUISE_]

:)

22:54:34 [chocomo]

tele: argue with inhouse please

22:55:05 [teleGUISE_]

there's nothing to argue about ... you don't own the wiki

22:55:08 [chocomo]

when you to come up with a n agreement, i will update the wiki acordingly

22:55:22 [chocomo]

no but I bloody well own thsatpage

22:55:25 [chocomo]

jesus

22:55:42 [chocomo]

if yo uwant to add sometihn discuss it i nthe page or here

22:55:44 [teleGUISE_]

in your mind

22:55:54 [chocomo]

don't go aroudn actign smart messign up my *very* thoguh out work

22:55:55 [chocomo]

please

22:56:12 [chocomo]

I'm leavign before I say soemtihng nasty. rethink your words. tele, seriusly

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22:56:32 [luks]

drama! :p

22:56:50 [fuchs]

damn, i just found some popcorn

22:57:09 [teleGUISE_]

underneath the cushions?

22:57:25 [fuchs]

teleGUISE_: would you please act as silly as you normally do? :)

22:58:12 [teleGUISE_]

* teleGUISE_ thinks about whether fuchs is picking on me or just picking on me

22:58:16 [Shepard]

yeah and don't talk normal, I understood all your sentences so far :P

22:58:33 [teleGUISE_]

ok its beat up on tele hour.... :)

22:58:36 [fuchs]

teleGUISE_: well, either or neither i'd say

22:59:19 [teleGUISE_]

that's fine everyone deserves it once and a while, ill take it and promise not to revert to rude comments and foul language

22:59:43 [teleGUISE_]

or sex talk as sheppy puts it :\

23:00:01 [fuchs]

teleGUISE_: but we want you to

23:00:04 [Shepard]

whoot?

23:00:11 [fuchs]

otherwise the popcorn gets soft

23:00:43 [teleGUISE_]

huh? not sure wants to know how and why fuchs popcorn gets soft

23:00:49 [Shepard]

old popcorn is bah

23:01:28 [teleGUISE_]

ah.... old buttered popcorn

23:01:39 [teleGUISE_]

yuck.... that is the worst

23:01:41 [fuchs]

btw, what the fuchs is a vacuum cleaner?

23:02:01 [teleGUISE_]

a thing to get old popcorn from underneath the cushions

23:02:57 [Shepard]

yeah that noise when popcorn gets soaked in!

23:03:00 [Shepard]

nothing like that

23:03:16 [Shepard]

forget about beethoven

23:04:33 [fuchs]

depeche mode used a train, a washing board, a steel pipe, and other trash as instruments, except for the train they even "played" them on stage, will you please add them? :)

23:05:08 [Shepard]

absolutly

23:05:23 [teleGUISE_]

i think they should have brought the train each show

23:05:33 [Shepard]

don't forget about Spock's Beard's sensational cow bell performance!

23:05:36 [teleGUISE_]

s/to each

23:08:13 [teleGUISE_]

shepard: shoot.. i was at the record store and forgot to look at the Cascada release

23:08:24 [Shepard]

Cascada?

23:08:49 [teleGUISE_]

the blonde german little hottie

23:09:01 [Shepard]

hu?

23:09:27 [Shepard]

Annett Louisan?

23:09:28 [teleGUISE_]

nevermind.. you had posted a mod note regarding a track atrribute

23:09:37 [Shepard]

don't remember

23:10:04 [teleGUISE_]

at such a young age, your mind is going already ;)

23:10:19 [teleGUISE_]

that usually doesnt hit to 25

23:10:29 [Shepard]

* Shepard feels much older than that

23:11:39 [teleGUISE_]

with or without spaces before and after the hyphen?

23:11:48 [teleGUISE_]

for the metallica track

23:12:52 [Shepard]

Iiii don't know

23:13:28 [teleGUISE_]

well how can I make you happy then :)

23:13:47 [Shepard]

err...

23:14:26 [teleGUISE_]

how 'bout without so it doesn't seem like it's an error and supposed to be a track split?

23:14:47 [Shepard]

sounds reasonable

23:16:48 [teleGUISE_]

good I included this mod note - after a brief diiscussion and to follow the images found on the covers .. if there's an objection yell at Shepard :\

23:19:55 [luks]

http://www.musicbrainz.org/showartist.html?artistid=266142 :/

23:19:57 [teleGUISE_]

hmmm theres a couple tracks titled just 'Pulling Teeth' on 2 other bootlegs.. but i'll just leave them i guess

23:20:57 [teleGUISE_]

heee.. i was just discussing Cafe del Mar with another guy trying to fix them all up.

23:20:59 [Shepard]

just saw them too

23:21:19 [Shepard]

I thought cafe del mar was pretty much fixed

23:21:31 [Shepard]

but then again it's some time ago I looked

23:22:21 [teleGUISE_]

wow... looks like g0llum did someword on them yesterday

23:22:48 [teleGUISE_]

many of them didnt have release data before

23:24:34 [Shepard]

err... luks, that annotation confuses me: http://musicbrainz.org/album/2c160f6d-e60a-4594-8ab5-43d26bedccd0.html

23:24:59 [luks]

it's a quote from the back cover

23:25:17 [Shepard]

shall I merge the artist into VA?

23:25:28 [luks]

no

23:25:57 [luks]

eeek!

23:25:59 [Shepard]

why not? :)

23:26:04 [luks]

he just imported one more

23:26:32 [luks]

http://www.musicbrainz.org/track/826a591a-6298-4507-ae19-b55f81fcd3a4.html

23:26:46 [luks]

that track is probably correct as is

23:27:10 [teleGUISE_]

if you do plan on doing a few album mergers. since all of them look to be already in the db

23:27:55 [luks]

'no' voting is easier :)

23:28:59 [teleGUISE_]

why is that artist name still even there?

23:29:26 [luks]

look at the link i posted

23:29:57 [teleGUISE_]

to the TRIPMAG release?

23:30:02 [luks]

yes

23:30:28 [teleGUISE_]

so Cafe del Mar is a real artist having nothing to do with the Cade del Mar series?

23:30:39 [luks]

probably

23:31:18 [teleGUISE_]

hmm.. track 5 is titled Cafe del Mar and track 6 credited to the artist Cafe del Mar... something looks odd there

23:32:23 [teleGUISE_]

though accoding to the freedb record it does say written by Cafe del Mar... of course that doesnt mean much

23:36:27 [teleGUISE_]

almost all references refer to some type of shady mp3site for that release

23:37:09 [luks]

that CD was not officially release

23:37:17 [luks]

+d

23:39:26 [luks]

he just sent me an email

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23:43:32 [Shepard]

wb mo

23:45:10 [chocomo]

takker

23:45:36 [chocomo]

jeg skal sove nå likevel

23:45:38 [chocomo]

natta

23:45:45 [Shepard]

sov godt!

23:45:53 [chocomo]

takk

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23:46:02 [chocomo]

du òg

23:46:12 [Shepard]

:)

23:47:31 [johntramp]

how can I find the python directory of libtunepimp?

23:47:39 [johntramp]

I installed libtunepimp with a package manager

23:48:01 [johntramp]

is there anything specific I can search for?

23:49:18 [dseomn]

http://mm.musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=4363332 votes please

23:49:28 [chocomo]

hi dseomn

23:49:33 [dseomn]

hi mo

23:49:41 [chocomo]

natta dseomn

23:50:02 [dseomn]

laila tov

23:52:55 [teleGUISE_]

http://www.musicbrainz.org/showalbum.html?albumid=489678

23:53:18 [luks]

* luks ---> bed

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23:54:04 [Shepard]

imagine he would have typed /dev/null

23:54:58 [Shepard]

okok old

23:55:32 [dseomn]

sorry to bug, I just want to tag this album; votes on http://mm.musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=4363364 too please

23:58:02 [teleGUISE_]

Now with hyperlinks to reference material - http://www.musicbrainz.org/showalbum.html?albumid=489678