IRC log of musicbrainz on 2006-11-07

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00:00:10 [catgruff]
guten nacht robert
00:00:26 [catgruff]
rob
00:00:27 [catgruff]
ru
00:00:33 [catgruff]
luks muz
00:00:45 [catgruff]
* catgruff nods and rolls off
00:00:52 [ruaok]
natta!
00:01:16 [ruaok]
luks: s/type/status/g is done now. :)
00:01:24 [luks]
ok :)
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00:22:30 [ruaok]
this is sooo not dark side of the moon:
00:22:30 [ruaok]
http://musicbrainz.org/release/9290923d-3b97-45ab-aac1-4880980c72ed.html
00:22:32 [ruaok]
WTF?
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00:55:36 [BlueLaguna]
anyone here can help me with setting up the music brainz database?
00:55:51 [BlueLaguna]
The dump files don't work
01:01:11 [BlueLaguna]
or at least not for me they aren't
01:07:09 [FauxFaux]
Use the vm. :)
01:15:23 [ruaok]
BlueLaguna: how are you importing them?
01:16:19 [BlueLaguna]
ruaok: for t in * ; do echo `date` $t ; echo "\\copy $t from ./$t" | psql -U musicbrainz_user importtest && mv $t ../done/ ; done ; echo `date` Done
01:16:37 [ruaok]
screw that.
01:16:43 [ruaok]
we have killer import scripts for a reason.
01:17:16 [BlueLaguna]
ruaok: heh, I'm just following: http://musicbrainz.org/doc/DatabaseInstallation
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01:18:11 [ruaok]
check out the mb_server source and follow INSTALL
01:18:29 [ruaok]
a database only install is quick and easy now.
01:18:52 [ruaok]
you just need to make one little change and you can use the trunk version of mb_server to easily import the data
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01:34:44 [BlueLaguna]
ruaok: ok, thanks
01:35:22 [ruaok]
if you want to try that, make sure to uncomment the locked column in admin/sql/CreateTables.sql
01:35:26 [ruaok]
in the album table.
01:35:32 [ruaok]
otherwise the data import fails.
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03:38:54 [mke]
Anyone any ideas on what musicbrainz does about genre information?
03:40:10 [VxJasonxV]
it doesn't
03:41:35 [mke]
Ah, ok.
03:41:52 [mke]
I was hoping it would have done, because if it did, it'd have been done right.
03:42:04 [mke]
And not such half-arsed jobs that iTMS or GDDB have.
03:42:45 [VxJasonxV]
uhhh
03:42:52 [VxJasonxV]
MusicBrainz data is run by the community members
03:42:56 [VxJasonxV]
it would not have been done right :)
03:43:03 [VxJasonxV]
People can't choose Genre's for anything
03:43:39 [mke]
the rest of the information in the db is done by community members, and it's quite good.
03:43:57 [mke]
never mind the fact that the devs have done an amazing job with APIs, too.
03:44:26 [mke]
i don't doubt that genre info would be a lot more accurate on musicbrainz than it would be on the iTMS or GDDB
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09:27:01 [catgruff]
+! mke i don't doubt that genre info would be a lot more accurate on musicbrainz than it would be on the iTMS or GDDB
09:27:18 [FauxFaux]
We need to steal it from last.fm.
09:27:20 [catgruff]
quote, but brainz bot is awol again so
09:27:32 [catgruff]
last.fm genres arethe sux0r
09:27:38 [FauxFaux]
Their tags are better than genres.
09:27:40 [catgruff]
(sorry muz)
09:27:57 [catgruff]
* catgruff snickers http://tags.musicbrainz.org/
09:28:33 [FauxFaux]
Nananananaana.. TAGS SERVER!
09:28:40 [catgruff]
ja jøss!
09:28:51 [catgruff]
remember to log in
09:29:02 [FauxFaux]
Your crazy letters make my terminal sad. :/
09:29:15 [catgruff]
what crazy letters?
09:29:37 [FauxFaux]
The one after "j" and before.. "ss"?
09:29:49 [catgruff]
jøss?
09:29:55 [catgruff]
can't you see my latin1?
09:30:00 [catgruff]
nor unicode
09:30:20 [FauxFaux]
* FauxFaux beats putty a bit.
09:30:35 [VxJasonxV]
hmmm
09:30:39 [VxJasonxV]
Tag server
09:31:17 [FauxFaux]
Aha! An o/.
09:31:29 [catgruff]
\o/
09:31:34 [catgruff]
erh what is o\?
09:31:38 [catgruff]
erh o/
09:31:49 [catgruff]
its an ø
09:31:51 [catgruff]
øøø
09:31:59 [catgruff]
also there is æ and å
09:32:08 [FauxFaux]
Yeah, those. :p
09:32:17 [catgruff]
if you can't type those you can asciify them with oe ae and aa
09:32:19 [FauxFaux]
If I got a real font I should be able to do full Unicode! now.
09:32:35 [VxJasonxV]
ok, question
09:32:44 [catgruff]
if nikki was here she'd telly the one she uses in putty
09:32:45 [FauxFaux]
Yes.
09:32:48 [VxJasonxV]
catgruff's thing about tags being better than genre's gave me an idea
09:32:51 [catgruff]
answer
09:32:56 [FauxFaux]
:o
09:32:56 [VxJasonxV]
so, having said that... are these tags going to go in as metadata?
09:32:58 [VxJasonxV]
and if so, how?
09:33:13 [catgruff]
ask ruaok andor luks
09:33:16 [FauxFaux]
Genre is a free field in most media formats, isn't it?
09:33:21 [FauxFaux]
Just comma seperate them. :p
09:33:41 [catgruff]
wmp, as as sucky player it is, supports it, kinda
09:33:42 [luks]
no, don't ask me :)
09:33:43 [catgruff]
with ;
09:33:46 [VxJasonxV]
Because, genre's are one thing I miss, however, ONLY for a specific set of games/albums
09:33:52 [FauxFaux]
s#most formats#everything but id3v1#
09:33:57 [luks]
i couldn't care less about tags, tbh
09:33:59 [VxJasonxV]
heh
09:34:09 [catgruff]
yes but you code on picard
09:34:11 [VxJasonxV]
FARK
09:34:12 [VxJasonxV]
ugh
09:34:23 [VxJasonxV]
the tracks I wanted to test tag are b0rken
09:34:55 [FauxFaux]
The problem is that you really need a relational database, again.
09:34:55 [VxJasonxV]
ugggggggh
09:35:00 [FauxFaux]
For your music, that is.
09:35:09 [VxJasonxV]
I have one
09:35:43 [VxJasonxV]
ugh
09:35:44 [FauxFaux]
It'd need quite a beating to read useful tag information from files with csv in them.
09:35:46 [VxJasonxV]
Tags can't be multi-word
09:35:50 [VxJasonxV]
I'm officially disappointed :P
09:35:59 [VxJasonxV]
(on the one hand, I can see the reason why)
09:36:01 [catgruff]
me
09:36:02 [luks]
which player?
09:36:06 [FauxFaux]
It was catgruff!
09:36:06 [VxJasonxV]
xmms2
09:36:11 [VxJasonxV]
<3 SQLite
09:36:12 [catgruff]
just CamelCase them
09:36:21 [VxJasonxV]
catgruff, I can't stand that
09:36:21 [luks]
i've recently found out quodlibet
09:36:30 [luks]
the best player i know
09:36:46 [FauxFaux]
* FauxFaux mutters about all the windows players sucking.
09:36:48 [catgruff]
* catgruff doesn't mind camelcaswe
09:37:01 [VxJasonxV]
catgruff, if/when QtPicard has script support, adding Genre's with no whitespace is going to look/work like crap
09:37:08 [catgruff]
but ick must dash, have to be outthe dor at 11:10 and its offically 10:36 here
09:37:14 [VxJasonxV]
bye
09:37:24 [VxJasonxV]
* VxJasonxV goes to the forum
09:37:38 [catgruff]
but uh, you could configure the script to add spaces :p
09:37:47 [catgruff]
(probably)
09:37:47 [VxJasonxV]
and in the cases where it shouldn't?
09:37:54 [VxJasonxV]
romanized japanese is a really fucked up thing :P
09:37:54 [catgruff]
ffs
09:37:58 [VxJasonxV]
it defies all convention
09:38:12 [catgruff]
hen. if album language set "japanese"
09:38:14 [catgruff]
etc etc
09:38:39 [catgruff]
then set spaces camelecase = false
09:38:56 [VxJasonxV]
second problem
09:39:11 [VxJasonxV]
they're japanese releases, but some of them have all english titles/tracks
09:39:12 [catgruff]
second solution
09:39:29 [catgruff]
so? the lanbg should still lbe hjapanese :)
09:39:29 [VxJasonxV]
so album language isn't always japanese
09:39:36 [VxJasonxV]
errr
09:39:36 [catgruff]
because its JAPANESe englishg
09:39:40 [catgruff]
not english english
09:39:49 [catgruff]
thingk of them usoing the english as lonewords
09:39:50 [VxJasonxV]
Dancemania is english english
09:39:54 [VxJasonxV]
hell, it's english songs
09:40:03 [VxJasonxV]
just a japanese compilation label
09:40:05 [catgruff]
then what is the problem?
09:40:19 [VxJasonxV]
Language isn't Japanese if everything's english
09:40:23 [VxJasonxV]
* VxJasonxV needs to re-read the wiki
09:40:26 [catgruff]
then if titletanme is dancemanina: no camelecase whitespace etc etc
09:40:32 [VxJasonxV]
hackish :P
09:40:48 [VxJasonxV]
another reason why I hate single word tags
09:40:56 [VxJasonxV]
"Dance Dance Revolution" gets royally munged
09:41:04 [catgruff]
3 leytters
09:41:06 [catgruff]
ddr
09:41:08 [VxJasonxV]
CamelCase is really not the solution to a proper noun
09:41:11 [VxJasonxV]
DDR is a german term :P
09:41:20 [catgruff]
ffs I didn't make it like that
09:41:22 [VxJasonxV]
XD
09:41:41 [VxJasonxV]
you said you had to leave, I'll take this to the forum or an ML
09:41:42 [catgruff]
ffs I'm getting late
09:41:45 [VxJasonxV]
probably the forum first
09:41:49 [catgruff]
don't, please
09:41:50 [VxJasonxV]
go go go
09:41:53 [VxJasonxV]
:|
09:41:53 [catgruff]
ask ruaon about it
09:41:55 [FauxFaux]
In Sovjet Russia, Dance Revolutions /you/!
09:41:55 [catgruff]
ruaok
09:41:59 [VxJasonxV]
...
09:42:00 [VxJasonxV]
ok
09:42:02 [VxJasonxV]
Just leave :P
09:42:10 [catgruff]
yea...
09:42:10 [VxJasonxV]
I don't wanna be blamed for stalling you
09:42:18 [catgruff]
* catgruff blames you
09:42:22 [VxJasonxV]
:(
09:42:29 [catgruff]
* catgruff is away: away! away! away I say!
09:42:46 [mustaqila]
* mustaqila pushes mo out hte door and puts a moose in the doorway
09:42:51 [mustaqila]
Muahuahua he ain't getting back in
09:42:53 [FauxFaux]
Esoom!
09:43:10 [FauxFaux]
Like ponies, but not cute. :(
09:43:18 [mustaqila]
But oh so awesome
09:43:43 [FauxFaux]
You could rename them to Hornedponies?
09:44:31 [mustaqila]
* mustaqila is late (fucking housemate) and runs off
09:44:47 [catgruff]
* catgruff soo reads that the wrong way
09:44:51 [FauxFaux]
Ditto.
09:45:14 [VxJasonxV]
hahahahahaha
09:45:16 [VxJasonxV]
catgruff, leave
09:45:17 [VxJasonxV]
:P
09:45:21 [catgruff]
NEI!
09:45:25 [catgruff]
muhahahah
09:45:45 [catgruff]
* catgruff is listening to a blod asweat and tears lp record :3
09:46:20 [catgruff]
tenke
09:47:48 [mustaqila]
Mo, oooooot!
09:47:55 [mustaqila]
Perv
09:48:06 [catgruff]
bwaaahahahahaahahahahahaha
09:48:14 [mustaqila]
* mustaqila forgot his wallet, and runs off again
09:48:17 [catgruff]
but also faux
09:48:20 [FauxFaux]
* FauxFaux doesn't know what catgruff is worried about.
09:48:30 [FauxFaux]
I get up about 10 minutes until I have to be outside most mornings.
09:48:41 [catgruff]
well I need atleast 2 hours
09:48:44 [catgruff]
at thevery least
09:48:49 [catgruff]
I woke up at 8:30
09:48:55 [catgruff]
and I'm still in my pj's :(
09:49:10 [FauxFaux]
This is assuming minimal IRCing,.
09:49:12 [mustaqila]
I woke up at 7;30 and my housemate was in the bathroom for what seemed like 2 hours ;_;
09:49:25 [catgruff]
and you wheren'yt in there.. with them? :DDDD
09:49:30 [mustaqila]
...
09:49:36 [mustaqila]
It's a guy, not my style
09:49:40 [catgruff]
awww
09:49:45 [mustaqila]
Argh
09:49:46 [catgruff]
s' ok, i'm only teasting :)
09:49:48 [mustaqila]
I'm late enough as it is
09:49:50 [mustaqila]
:(
09:49:54 [catgruff]
dakar muz
09:50:02 [mustaqila]
* mustaqila runs off and locks his screen behind him
09:50:12 [catgruff]
jeg er SLEM
09:50:13 [catgruff]
dakar muz
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15:51:34 [BrianG]
http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=5930866
15:51:44 [BrianG]
aliases are designed for mis-spellings?
15:57:36 [timo-]
common misspellings, among others
15:58:55 [FauxFaux]
Elton J/pwn/!
15:59:52 [FauxFaux]
* FauxFaux points at the note on http://musicbrainz.org/show/artist/aliases.html?artistid=236
16:00:49 [BrianG]
not so common
16:01:16 [FauxFaux]
I'd guess that "uses" thing was new if there wasn't a pre-2005 date on it.
16:01:52 [FauxFaux]
Although http://musicbrainz.org/show/artist/aliases.html?artistid=852 is blatently lies, wonder where it gets the uses form.
16:07:18 [BrianG]
just asking because the last time i added a misspelling i was given the old "we're not here to fix last.fm" deal
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16:08:40 [timo-]
as far as I'm concerned, "Elton Jphn" could go. it's just a typo and would happen only on a qwerty keyboard. if we're to keep it, we might as well add "Rlton John" and n others. a common misspelling would be something like "Alanis Morissette <-> Alanis Morrissette / Morrisette / ..."
16:09:35 [BrianG]
well i've already canceled it
16:09:45 [timo-]
I noticed
16:09:56 [timo-]
too bad
16:11:41 [BrianG]
5935624
16:24:40 [BrianG]
does lucene take typos into consideration?
16:24:49 [BrianG]
when providing search results
16:24:57 [FauxFaux]
It does LD, so yes.
16:25:01 [BrianG]
does/will
16:25:09 [BrianG]
LD?
16:25:12 [BrianG]
long division?
16:25:14 [BrianG]
:P
16:25:23 [FauxFaux]
Le.................. distance, it's a string comparison algorithm.
16:25:35 [FauxFaux]
Levenshtein.
16:26:52 [luks]
http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/TextSearchSyntax#head-c8907394a9b29fd82fdc8079a9c1969e01f2f32b
16:27:12 [luks]
so yes, but only if ask it to :)
16:27:17 [luks]
*if you
16:28:03 [BrianG]
so it wouldn't pick up Elton Jphn as Elton John?
16:28:06 [FauxFaux]
* FauxFaux is pretty sure it does it anyway. :)
16:28:13 [BrianG]
unless you ask it to?
16:30:22 [luks]
FauxFaux: no, it doesn't
16:30:26 [luks]
http://musicbrainz.org/search/textsearch.html?query=jphn%7E&type=artist&limit=25&an=1&handlearguments=1
16:30:32 [luks]
http://musicbrainz.org/search/textsearch.html?query=jphn&type=artist&limit=25&an=1&handlearguments=1
16:31:46 [BrianG]
im niot sweating the Elton Jphn thing but it has got me curious about search features
16:31:50 [BrianG]
not*
16:32:27 [BrianG]
and that curiosity will probably last about 5 more minutes, tops
16:33:39 [BrianG]
how come a search for Elton Jphn brings up "Elton John" but a search for dmb doesn't bring up Dave MAtthews Band?
16:34:47 [luks]
because it searches in aliases
16:34:58 [BrianG]
they are both aliases
16:35:11 [BrianG]
http://musicbrainz.org/show/artist/aliases.html?artistid=502
16:35:58 [luks]
ah, sorry you're right
16:36:11 [luks]
it's not because of aliases, but because the default operator is OR
16:36:19 [luks]
http://musicbrainz.org/search/textsearch.html?query=elton+AND+jphn&type=artist&an=1&limit=25&handlearguments=1
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16:36:54 [luks]
but i don't understad why the score is 100
16:37:10 [luks]
even for Ben Elton, etc.
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16:38:19 [luks]
heh, and here http://musicbrainz.org/search/textsearch.html?query=elton+john&type=artist&an=1&limit=25&handlearguments=1 it's only 99
16:41:38 [BrianG]
* BrianG goes and names his band Elton Jphn
16:46:57 [Muz]
Make the lyrics far-right and homophobic
16:47:07 [Muz]
It'll be a laugh and all that
16:47:53 [BrianG]
settle down beavis
16:49:18 [BrianG]
i wish the firefox search bar would clear itself when i clicked on it
17:11:04 [VxJasonxV]
BrianG, use Ctrl+K
17:11:27 [BrianG]
then it takes over my paste buffer
17:12:23 [BrianG]
actually it dosen't
17:12:33 [BrianG]
but it's not the desired effect. i still have to clear it
17:13:10 [BrianG]
must be a lot of people search for hte same thing more than once in a row
17:14:09 [VxJasonxV]
Ctrl+K plus just start talking...
17:14:20 [VxJasonxV]
you don't have to clear it
17:14:29 [VxJasonxV]
and if you do, something is very different...
17:15:29 [BrianG]
ok im talking and it sin't doing anything
17:15:35 [BrianG]
maybe my mic isn't plugged in
17:15:37 [BrianG]
;)
17:16:09 [VxJasonxV]
O_o
17:16:12 [BrianG]
i'm using the middle click to paste what you just hilighted method
17:16:14 [VxJasonxV]
beeeeeeeeeh?
17:16:25 [BrianG]
and it just pastes inbeetween the words
17:16:34 [VxJasonxV]
hmmm, weird
17:16:45 [VxJasonxV]
ok, so hit backspace, then paste :P
17:17:35 [BrianG]
i wish the firefox search bar would clear itself when i clicked on it (so i don't have to hit backspace, then paste)
17:19:32 [VxJasonxV]
:P
17:19:37 [VxJasonxV]
write an extension
17:19:54 [BrianG]
write one for me
17:19:57 [VxJasonxV]
or hack at the z0rz
17:20:00 [VxJasonxV]
no
17:20:15 [BrianG]
ok
17:20:15 [VxJasonxV]
my z0rz hacking is not strong enough
17:20:15 [VxJasonxV]
* VxJasonxV goes to vote
17:20:22 [BrianG]
:D
17:20:38 [BrianG]
what state do you live in?
17:20:55 [BrianG]
which
17:21:02 [mudcrow]
i live in a messed up state
17:21:10 [BrianG]
we know
17:21:35 [mudcrow]
I'm always in a 2 & 8
17:22:14 [BrianG]
10 and 2
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BrianG, how about https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/3544/
17:23:28 [BrianG]
nice find
17:23:32 [BrianG]
i'll check it out
17:23:46 [mudcrow]
http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=5895435 I'm not keen on that titling
17:23:59 [BrianG]
i know.
17:24:37 [BrianG]
lets see if they fix them
17:26:14 [mudcrow]
if they were untitled white labels or something then it would make sense. but why call a release New Vision Recordings : NV0401 when its 4 mixes of Spinechilla?
17:27:15 [mudcrow]
I'm too braindead to be into D&B. I could never remember all those cat numbers
17:27:38 [BrianG]
i understand totally
17:31:05 [BrianG]
mudcrow: do yo want me to can my edits that move the ":" ? i think theres only 4 or 5 open ones
17:31:54 [mudcrow]
no leave them.
17:33:52 [mudcrow]
nothing wrong with the edits or the releases themselves.
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18:15:04 [FauxFaux]
Must.. not.. spend.. all.. night.. tagging.. again.. :/
18:15:59 [praest76]
You.. will.. learn...
18:17:00 [FauxFaux]
Not.. to.. bind.. .. .. to.. spacebar.. ever.. again?
18:17:28 [BrianG]
more dots!
18:17:50 [BrianG]
ok. stop dots.
18:17:59 [FauxFaux]
Unfortunately.. my.. admin.. password.. has.. a.. space.. in.. it.. so.. I.. can't.. fix.. it.
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18:21:55 [BrianG]
more dots more dots
18:25:38 [Muz]
Less dots,more moose.
18:25:53 [FauxFaux]
Less moose, more ponies!"
18:26:07 [Muz]
Naeeeeee
18:26:12 [Muz]
Where's mo? He'd back me up on this
18:26:57 [BrianG]
thats a fucking 50 dpk minus
18:36:03 [FauxFaux]
But.. but..
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20:00:05 [ruaok]
* ruaok waves from sunny and HOT california.
20:00:12 [ruaok]
summer the third time around here.
20:00:20 [ruaok]
who's got snow? :-)
20:02:38 [Yllona]
not me :) it's so hot here i had to move my laptop downstairs
20:02:50 [ruaok]
lol.
20:02:55 [ruaok]
I figured you'd agree with me.
20:03:12 [Yllona]
unbelievable
20:03:17 [ruaok]
its never been THIS hot in november before. a bit worrysome if you ask me.
20:03:51 [mustaqila]
I've got cold chilling wind and mist
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Fog, rather
20:04:04 [Yllona]
91 F / 33C here
20:04:33 [ruaok]
only 31C here
20:04:58 [Yllona]
ruaok: yes it has, oct and nov can be the hottest months of the year in SoCal. i remember it was 109F one year on my b-day
20:05:05 [Yllona]
b-day on mid-oct
20:05:21 [ruaok]
I love me a good santa-ana -- don't get me wrong.
20:05:33 [ruaok]
but this one has been rocking for nearly two weeks now...
20:05:48 [Yllona]
it's supposed to cool of later in the week
20:05:53 [Yllona]
*cool off
20:06:02 [ruaok]
* ruaok notes that santa-ana refers to the santa ana winds that carry warm air from the deserts to the coast.
20:16:06 [Yllona]
and warm air my ass, santa ana's are like a blast from a hot oven
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20:23:44 [Citizen]
hi
20:26:10 [ruaok]
hi Citizen!
20:28:54 [Citizen]
i have a problem with the perl module WebService::MusicBrainz - can anybody help me?
20:30:34 [Citizen]
i try to get the release date of an album, but i can't get it to work
20:45:57 [ruaok]
sorry, I have never used those bindings.
20:46:08 [ruaok]
are you sure the server returns the right data?
20:47:13 [Citizen]
yes, i checked it
20:55:10 [ruaok]
then its the bindings...
20:55:21 [ruaok]
I'd say contact the author... sorry.
21:01:13 [Citizen]
smgoller uses it too... he helped me with another problem in the past - but he is idle since 360+ hours
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join #last.fm
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wrong net
21:21:02 [Synchro]
dammit
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22:02:22 [smgoller]
what's up
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can't get the release date, eh?
22:03:01 [smgoller]
hm
22:03:08 [Citizen]
ahh
22:03:10 [Citizen]
yes...
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good evenin'
22:05:58 [ruaok]
evening Prodoc !
22:06:08 [ruaok]
luks: ping!@
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-@
22:06:56 [luks]
pong!
22:07:00 [Prodoc]
ruaok, don't be too enthusiastic, I've got a, possibly, small task for you. ;-)
22:07:15 [ruaok]
uh oh.
22:07:23 [Prodoc]
In the wiki, the 'old MusicBrainz wiki' link all the way at the bottom of the page is dead
22:07:27 [ruaok]
luks: we've been getting a lot of forum mail bounces sent back to support@
22:07:40 [Prodoc]
should it be removed or fixed?
22:07:56 [ruaok]
Prodoc: yes.
22:07:58 [ruaok]
gimme a sec.
22:08:09 [luks]
ruaok: for what kind of mails?
22:08:15 [Prodoc]
I wanted to file a ticket for you but I can't find a suitable category
22:08:22 [smgoller]
citizen
22:08:31 [ruaok]
luks: email confirmation, mostly
22:08:39 [smgoller]
i don't think the guy who wrote it put in stuff to fetch release events programatically
22:08:40 [ruaok]
Prodoc: I'll fix it now. hold on.
22:08:41 [Prodoc]
don't worry, no hurry, I don't need it but I just noticed it
22:09:05 [Citizen]
smgoller but there is release_event_list()
22:09:07 [smgoller]
if you look at his example section on this page:
22:09:13 [smgoller]
there is?
22:09:15 [smgoller]
one sec.
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i must have skimmed too fast
22:09:32 [Citizen]
it's at WebService::MusicBrainz::Release
22:10:01 [ruaok]
Prodoc: fixed.
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22:10:24 [Prodoc]
cheers ruaok
22:10:32 [ruaok]
np
22:10:33 [Citizen]
smgoller i'm trying to get it with my @release_events = $tracks->release_event_list();
22:10:59 [mll]
Hi everyone
22:11:15 [Prodoc]
hi mll
22:11:19 [mll]
Poll, do you think I'm right ? http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=5931143
22:11:22 [smgoller]
so i did this:
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my $response = $ws->search({ MBID => 'fed37cfc-2a6d-4569-9ac0-501a7c7598eb', IN\
22:11:26 [smgoller]
C => 'release-events' });
22:11:29 [smgoller]
my $xml = $response->as_xml();
22:11:34 [smgoller]
and the event list is there
22:11:40 [ruaok]
luks: can you change the address to which mail gets bounced to webmaster@ ?
22:11:48 [smgoller]
try using as_xml() on the response and see if you have relevant info in there
22:11:57 [luks]
ruaok: yes
22:12:10 [ruaok]
thanks.
22:12:40 [Citizen]
smgoller i do it with my $response_tracks = $ws_tracks->search({ MBID => $release->id(), INC => 'tracks release-events' }); because i need the tracks and the events - it works, when i do it on the website
22:13:05 [Citizen]
uhm... okay... where is this as_xml() from ?
22:15:44 [Prodoc]
mll, yeah, if no exact date can be determined only the year is better then nothing
22:16:16 [mll]
That's my stance too, and I was pissed off by a no vote to a correct mod. :(
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22:16:55 [Citizen]
smgoller yes, $xml has something in it: B0000A2YF8368253380573249480434373215213477813237533316546216346272680676040279147
22:17:57 [mll]
prodoc: at leats he finally did it himself: http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=5936502
22:18:12 [Citizen]
but how to get the release date from it? doing xml stuff on it directly?
22:18:29 [Prodoc]
if I was cathedralheat I would have added the note and abstained and let the original editor decide what to do
22:18:29 [mll]
but I think *his edit* is wrong. Accurate in wrongness :)
22:18:54 [mll]
I would too.
22:19:08 [mll]
Just like what I just did on http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=5936502
22:19:45 [mll]
While on this latter case, I think it's wrong, so it deserves a "no" IMO
22:19:52 [Prodoc]
nom his date is plain wrong so that would have been a no vote ;-)
22:19:58 [smgoller]
citizen: I guess my point is that if as_xml() returns the release event info, and you don't have an accessor, maybe drop mail to the guy who wrote it to get it fixed
22:20:01 [Prodoc]
-m
22:20:07 [smgoller]
otherwise use that output and parse it out (which sucks)
22:20:21 [smgoller]
i'm still trying to figure out wtf he's using to generate this server
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service
22:21:32 [mll]
OK, lets go for a no then :)
22:21:53 [Prodoc]
:-)
22:22:28 [Citizen]
hmmm
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22:28:33 [Prodoc]
time for a nap again, goodnight all!
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Cya prodoc. Sweet dreams
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oops
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Yawn
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Leaving too, G'night all
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smgoller *sigh* i will write a mail to the author... release_event_list() returns something undefined
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smgoller did you include more than one option? i have two options, and i wonder, if i do it correct: my $response_tracks = $ws_tracks->search({ MBID => $release->id(), INC => 'tracks release-events' }); i tried it in different ways, some gave me errors. this line seems to work
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22:51:15 [smgoller]
hm
22:51:47 [smgoller]
searches i've done have used "artist tracks"
22:52:17 [smgoller]
that's about it
22:52:30 [Citizen]
hmm... okay... so a normal space is okay
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Under 4000 tracks left, faster, musicip mixer, faster!
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23:11:01 [warp]
can anyone tell me what's going on here? http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=5935477 :)
23:11:30 [Freso]
Has The Clancy Brothers (and Tommy Makem) been discussed before?
23:12:01 [FauxFaux]
warp: Adding two relationships, both of which could be right, but the edit itself probably isn't?
23:12:17 [FauxFaux]
Although.. shrug. :P
23:12:50 [warp]
nah, they can't both be right. it's either a translation, or a transliteration.
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23:13:29 [FauxFaux]
One of them already exists, though.
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23:20:20 [mudcrow]
the edit is changing translated track listing to transliterated track listing
23:21:22 [warp]
ok, thanks.
23:21:27 [warp]
* warp changes his vote.
23:23:01 [warp]
mudcrow: the page isn't very clear in this particular case IMO :)
23:23:38 [mudcrow]
top edit is always the original, bottom edit is what it is being changed to
23:24:53 [mudcrow]
editing ARs is never very clear, you dont get nice highlighted text like you do for other edits
23:26:41 [warp]
ah well, made a quick post on the forum about it.
23:26:51 [warp]
perhaps it can be made a bit clearer at some point.
23:27:52 [warp]
and now i'm off to bed, should've been sleeping hours ago.
23:27:56 [warp]
goodnight _o/
23:28:09 [mudcrow]
hmm, you could read the edit type. Edit: Type:Edit Relationship (thats a clue) :p
23:28:16 [mudcrow]
night warp
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weird. I scanned my purple vinyl, it came out blue, yet the purple A&M on the label came out purple
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light
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dark
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it dont like this purple vinyl
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