IRC log of musicbrainz on 2006-11-08

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00:41:03 [mudcrow]

http://www.discogs.com/subs/view/2334272 finally got it purple after much mucking about

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brrrr. the temperature just dropped to 26C. I guess summer is over again.

00:56:13 [Citizen]

26C ? here it's 8C

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00:56:48 [ruaok]

down from 31C earlier. :)

00:57:12 [Citizen]

where are you?

00:57:16 [ruaok]

California.

00:57:21 [Citizen]

ah...

00:57:23 [Citizen]

germany here

00:57:32 [ruaok]

its about 10 - 12C higher than normal.

00:57:34 [ruaok]

wo?

00:57:40 [ruaok]

* ruaok kommt aus HH

00:58:07 [Citizen]

ruhrpott

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00:58:27 [ruaok]

hi JoanW!

00:58:34 [JoanW]

hi ru

00:58:43 [JoanW]

seems to be a bit hot over there in California

00:58:52 [ruaok]

oh yeah.

00:58:56 [ruaok]

though its cooling off now.

00:59:07 [ruaok]

might be really cold tomorrow morning.

00:59:15 [ruaok]

we're at mercy of the winds.

00:59:22 [JoanW]

26 degrees is not cooling off - 8 degrees here at the moment - nice

00:59:23 [ruaok]

if they blow from alaska.... brrr.

00:59:29 [ruaok]

mexico: humid

00:59:36 [ruaok]

arizona: dry HOT, like today.

00:59:53 [ruaok]

my body had already switched over to colder temps.

00:59:58 [ruaok]

just kidding body!

01:00:32 [JoanW]

what's happening there - anything interesting - been offline due to a complete computer crash - only just getting back up to speed

01:01:03 [ruaok]

in MB land or CA?

01:01:10 [JoanW]

either

01:01:26 [ruaok]

US is having elections. well, mock elections that the republicans are allowing. not like the outcomes haven

01:01:32 [ruaok]

't already been dialed in.

01:01:34 [JoanW]

I feel like I have been in limboland for several weeks

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:-(

01:01:43 [JoanW]

yes - following elections from over here

01:01:44 [ruaok]

MB is returning to normal.

01:02:16 [ruaok]

luks and I are both hacking on the server. we'll have a mini release that will fix lots of bugs in a few weeks.

01:02:23 [JoanW]

our television reckons democrats should win House of Representatives and might get Congress as well

01:02:45 [ruaok]

senate. :)

01:02:51 [ruaok]

congress = senate + house

01:02:55 [JoanW]

sorry - senate

01:02:57 [ruaok]

but I hope so.

01:03:15 [ruaok]

still, I think the republicans rigged so that it wont quite go that way.

01:03:34 [JoanW]

and over here they are saying that Hilary Clinton will be the democrat nomination for the presidential election in 2008

01:03:53 [ruaok]

she seems to be getting groomed for that.

01:04:06 [ruaok]

but I'm afraid of that proposition.

01:04:11 [ruaok]

there are too many people against her.

01:04:12 [JoanW]

yeah, but so was Ferraro a few years ago

01:04:21 [ruaok]

and with a bad dem candiate, we might get another rep.

01:04:32 [ruaok]

yep. sad. sad. sad.

01:04:35 [JoanW]

and that would be a disaster for everyone

01:04:42 [ruaok]

* ruaok has great respect for Margaret Thatcher

01:04:45 [JoanW]

another republican I mean

01:05:04 [ruaok]

I wish that Merkel could be even half as good as the iron lady was.

01:05:10 [ruaok]

(that was her moniker, no?)

01:05:10 [JoanW]

NO NO NO NO to Margaret Thatcher - more republican than Richard Nixon - she thought she was Queen

01:05:42 [ruaok]

ok, so I might not agree with her politicts, but as a women in gov't she set a strong example.

01:06:03 [JoanW]

you would not have liked to have lived in England during the 80's when she was Prime Minister and she set the cause of women's suffrage back half a century in this country

01:07:25 [ruaok]

oh.

01:07:35 [ruaok]

I guess I was a little too young to get all that.

01:07:50 [ruaok]

damned conservatives.

01:08:09 [JoanW]

as an example of how bad it is for women in politics in this country, the political parties are having to take a course I do not believe in and are mandating that all their parties give preference to women candidates.

01:09:07 [JoanW]

damn politics

01:09:43 [ruaok]

why can't the best person get the job?

01:09:51 [ruaok]

yup, damn politics.

01:10:03 [catgruff]

hi

01:10:15 [JoanW]

* JoanW strokes mo

01:10:18 [catgruff]

hi joan and ruaok !

01:10:27 [catgruff]

rrrrrr for joan!

01:10:29 [ruaok]

hi mo!

01:10:34 [catgruff]

hi ru!

01:10:36 [ruaok]

a bit late for you no?

01:10:38 [JoanW]

have you come to rescue us - we are talking politics

01:10:42 [ruaok]

lol

01:10:42 [catgruff]

gotta gop to bed now

01:10:56 [JoanW]

sleep tight - natta mo

01:11:03 [ruaok]

natta!

01:11:08 [catgruff]

gotta go to the doc tomrow and get new perscription for ritalin

01:11:15 [catgruff]

I have exactly 1 left :s

01:11:27 [JoanW]

do you have to pay for it in Norway?

01:11:31 [catgruff]

also: eeek ploitics

01:11:45 [catgruff]

what do you u mean?

01:12:05 [catgruff]

-u

01:12:08 [JoanW]

In the USA you have to pay for drugs (is that right ru) but in England you don't

01:12:24 [catgruff]

well it depends

01:12:38 [JoanW]

on what

01:12:44 [catgruff]

you have top pay up ti la point, then when you reachthe magic limit, you get a freecard for the rest of theyear

01:13:02 [catgruff]

mine newer fills up because ritalin is cheap. moms fill up in like feb

01:13:03 [catgruff]

:)

01:13:39 [ruaok]

JoanW: yes.

01:13:44 [catgruff]

and its only perscription drugs

01:14:01 [catgruff]

regular stuff (headacke pills etc) always cost money

01:14:07 [catgruff]

but its not very expenisive

01:14:07 [JoanW]

In the UK, we have a sum taken out of our wages each month, and after that absolutely everything is free, i.e. drugs, hospital treatments, operations, doctors bills, etc.

01:14:21 [catgruff]

moms hospital visit is free

01:14:29 [ruaok]

you need to have insurance in order to get any help.

01:14:35 [ruaok]

and insurance is entirely private.

01:14:37 [JoanW]

is your mum out of hospital yet

01:14:48 [catgruff]

she's been there since aug /oct

01:14:50 [catgruff]

and no

01:14:54 [ruaok]

there are some gubnt plans but you hear nothing but bickering.

01:14:55 [catgruff]

and wont be for a long time

01:15:00 [ruaok]

catgruff: :-(

01:15:04 [JoanW]

I would not like to be ill in the USA - what happens if you haven't got insurance, do you get medicare

01:15:19 [ruaok]

yea, but that is ass.

01:15:22 [catgruff]

thewre are some for free hospitals etc ain't it?

01:15:30 [JoanW]

When you next see her mo - tell her I hope that she gets well soon

01:15:30 [ruaok]

free hospitals?

01:15:37 [ruaok]

wrong country, dude.

01:15:40 [catgruff]

ruaok: i dunno

01:15:51 [catgruff]

I was watching cicago hope :p

01:15:59 [ruaok]

TV. ha!

01:16:04 [catgruff]

ja jøss :p

01:16:43 [catgruff]

this morninng it was very warm. 10°C !

01:16:53 [catgruff]

that's amasing for nov

01:16:54 [catgruff]

here

01:17:09 [JoanW]

it was about the same here mo

01:17:14 [catgruff]

global warming.. hmm

01:17:28 [catgruff]

yea but that's England

01:17:29 [JoanW]

but it gets colder as the day goes on - you will be getting snow soon I should imagine

01:17:31 [catgruff]

this is norway!

01:17:44 [catgruff]

10 c's for norway in november is outstanding

01:17:52 [catgruff]

last year there was a blizard or something

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we've already had snow

01:18:07 [catgruff]

its melted now thought

01:18:48 [catgruff]

atleast the sbow makes it brighter out

01:18:51 [catgruff]

sure does need it

01:19:04 [catgruff]

it getd dark here at 16-17

01:19:16 [catgruff]

anyway, night

01:19:23 [JoanW]

same here - makes for very short days doesn't it?

01:19:32 [catgruff]

yes, ain't it true?

01:19:53 [catgruff]

time for me to go t o bed

01:19:58 [catgruff]

night joan and ruaok

01:20:04 [catgruff]

was nicetalkign to you joan!

01:20:15 [JoanW]

natta mo - sleep well - and it was nice talking to you

01:20:19 [ruaok]

natta for the 3rd time. :-)

01:20:26 [catgruff]

dust :p

01:20:31 [catgruff]

:)

01:20:33 [catgruff]

* catgruff is away: natt

01:20:36 [catgruff]

ersj

01:20:42 [JoanW]

I think I might as well do the same - goodnight mo and ruaok

01:20:55 [JoanW]

thanks for the late night chat

01:20:57 [ruaok]

night!

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22C

01:22:52 [ruaok]

dropped 4C in under half an hour.

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* ruaok runs off to date night

01:41:42 [ruaok]

ta ta!

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01:45:54 [enr1x]

hi guys! how can i create a cuesheet with picard? wikipedia says it is possible...

01:45:59 [enr1x]

i dont see such option, though

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02:17:43 [VxJasonxV]

Wikipedia has an article on Picard?

02:18:04 [VxJasonxV]

wow, it does

02:18:21 [VxJasonxV]

enr1x, where does it make mention of cuesheets?

02:18:22 [VxJasonxV]

I see none

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02:38:13 [VxJasonxV]

what the hell

02:38:20 [VxJasonxV]

what is this 'brainymusic.com' nonsense

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brainymusic.com nonsense ?

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07:31:41 [timo-]

wtf is that

07:31:49 [catgruff]

I have no idea?

07:31:51 [catgruff]

what is it?

07:33:05 [timo-]

most unusable it is

07:34:06 [timo-]

disorganized, too

07:34:22 [catgruff]

well its google

07:35:22 [catgruff]

and it obviously takes its info from MB http://www.brainymusic.com/artists/u/uriah_heep.html

07:35:50 [catgruff]

I did all these myself

07:36:06 [catgruff]

added amamzon links

07:36:08 [catgruff]

yes yes

07:36:20 [timo-]

yeah, I guessed as much

07:36:47 [catgruff]

bah, doctors apointment at 10:20

07:36:49 [timo-]

wow, they have a lot of sites; http://www.brainyquote.com/inquire/copyright.html

07:37:13 [catgruff]

but they should not use our name like so, they should give credit where credit is due tbh

07:37:36 [catgruff]

at the top there is a grey lien with words

07:37:42 [catgruff]

arlas, dictionarly

07:37:45 [catgruff]

encyc.opedia

07:38:01 [catgruff]

geograpghy history quote translation on and.. zip?

07:38:48 [catgruff]

oh hey

07:38:48 [catgruff]

http://www.brainyencyclopedia.com/encyclopedia/r/ra/radio.html

07:38:52 [catgruff]

wikipedia

07:38:57 [catgruff]

look at it

07:39:14 [catgruff]

"For other uses, see Radio (disambiguation)."

07:39:20 [catgruff]

ëë

07:40:11 [catgruff]

from the page you linked

07:40:12 [catgruff]

"The collection, arrangement and assembly of content on this site are the exclusive property of Xplore, Inc."

07:40:24 [catgruff]

I thinkthats what they call theft

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lastfm://globaltags/hand%20claps

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08:25:30 [BrianG]

http://palindromes.hobby-site.org/

08:30:02 [BrianG]

Evil olive

08:30:09 [BrianG]

thats the best name for a band

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08:46:32 [FauxFaux]

What're the rules about entering rips of DVDs? (ie. http://www.sanity.com.au/product/dvd.asp?sku=758672)

08:49:44 [BrianG]

bootleg :P

08:50:08 [FauxFaux]

'tis an official release, though, isn't it?

08:50:14 [FauxFaux]

Just not in it's original format.

08:50:42 [FauxFaux]

* FauxFaux assumes 3rd party cassette -> cd conversions count as legal.

08:50:52 [BrianG]

its missing half the content

08:50:54 [BrianG]

the video

08:51:06 [FauxFaux]

Um, I appear to be late for work. Be back in half an hour or so. :P

08:51:06 [BrianG]

just my opinion

08:51:12 [BrianG]

i'm late for bed

08:51:28 [FauxFaux]

That content isn't relevant, though.

08:52:22 [BrianG]

bootleg dosen't mean illegal

08:53:09 [FauxFaux]

Could add it as a sound-track, I suppose. ;P

08:53:50 [BrianG]

untill we add video dvds, they're bootlegs to me

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or maybe its time to add dvds

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09:35:14 [mudcrow]

FauxFaux>What're the rules about entering rips of DVDs? (ie. http://www.sanity.com.au/product/dvd.asp?sku=758672) its an official release

09:35:26 [FauxFaux]

As an.. album? live?

09:36:13 [mudcrow]

you're just entering a tracklisting, it doesnt matter what format its in.

09:36:50 [mudcrow]

live/official. make a note in the annotation that its a DVD release

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13:26:52 [catgruff]

uhm.. is lucene broken or am i doing something wrong?

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13:31:46 [FauxFaux]

Link?

13:31:54 [catgruff]

do a search with lucene

13:32:10 [FauxFaux]

http://musicbrainz.org/search/textsearch.html?query=badgers&type=release&limit=&handlearguments=1 works.

13:32:48 [FauxFaux]

As does http://musicbrainz.org/search/textsearch.html?query=very+best+of+euphoric+dance&type=release&an=1&as=1&limit=25&handlearguments=1 (dogdamn I hate that cd).

13:33:18 [catgruff]

how odd, it seemsto be fixed now

13:33:45 [FauxFaux]

dance~0.0 still breaks it. :)

13:33:59 [catgruff]

that's a stupid name for a track

13:34:38 [FauxFaux]

It's a lucene expression, it's ticketed. :)

13:35:09 [catgruff]

ok

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* catgruff ponders if http://musicbrainz.org/artist/25046be0-71f2-41d6-8d1e-158b1181e241.html and http://musicbrainz.org/artist/e21af3b6-6a8a-471c-b700-004245988193.html is the same

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wtf

13:48:16 [FauxFaux]

ftw!

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duste greie

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* Muz mooses up mo

14:24:22 [nightgroove]

hi muz

14:24:27 [Muz]

Hei mo

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15:02:34 [nightgroove]

kill me http://www.discogs.com/search?type=artists&q=o+zone&btn=Search what a mess

15:03:43 [FauxFaux]

Heh, I've seen 6 identical on discogs before.

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16:04:39 [mudcrow]

hmm http://www.discogs.com/search?type=artists&q=angel&btn=Search guess the Angel

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Hee hee.

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17:15:41 [catgruff]

erh.. wow, in this exCrystal Guardian booster pack.. there was squirtle, then charmander, (mudkip, duskull) then bulbasaur! o_o in the same pack!

17:17:07 [timo-]

oh yes, I screwed up my last.fm stats. left machinae supremacy accidently playing for the past 9,5 hours

17:17:20 [catgruff]

ja jøss

17:17:40 [juhae]

Yeah, it's not that you left it playing for the nine and a half hours, but machine supramacy, tschh...

17:17:43 [juhae]

;)

17:17:49 [timo-]

yeah

17:17:55 [catgruff]

arg this cat is driving me up the wall

17:18:24 [catgruff]

she wants to cuddle and stuff, but her tail has looong hair and she likes to flick it about so she's ticklingme crazy

17:22:02 [catgruff]

discogs are driving me crazy

17:24:02 [juhae]

Don't bother yourself with them :)

17:24:44 [catgruff]

this artist http://www.discogs.com/artist/O+Zone is seperated from http://www.discogs.com/artist/O-Zone,+The and there is the release http://www.discogs.com/release/327947 where o zone has two tracks, 'silence' and 'Mischka' doing a search on mb yelds http://musicbrainz.org/search/textsearch.html?query=Mischka&type=track&limit=&handlearguments=1 Mischka as being atributed all overthe place, the album http://musicbrainz.org/album/f5505c

17:24:44 [catgruff]

dc-a660-4a66-b68e-271a30324988.html has a disogs link http://www.discogs.com/release/328657 where he same 'Mischka' is atributed to 'the o-sone'!!!

17:24:47 [catgruff]

I have to

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I want osort out this ozone buisnis one for an all

17:25:01 [catgruff]

erh, once and for all

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17:26:06 [catgruff]

the othetr one http://www.discogs.com/release/709591

17:26:10 [catgruff]

that's two against one

17:26:41 [catgruff]

* catgruff ::might as well add the discog link while we're here::

17:26:42 [Muz]

I HATE MACS

17:26:48 [Muz]

* Muz goes back to his work... on a Mac

17:26:50 [catgruff]

I hate ..

17:26:51 [catgruff]

erh

17:26:53 [catgruff]

discogs

17:26:57 [catgruff]

also stupid name to type

17:26:59 [catgruff]

discog

17:27:32 [catgruff]

how do you merge artists on there anyway

17:27:50 [catgruff]

on, nvm i found it

17:28:38 [catgruff]

uh

17:28:48 [catgruff]

to merge something you needot go to the place you want to keep and args

17:28:54 [catgruff]

dumme discogs

17:32:29 [mudcrow]

what are you trying to merge?

17:32:33 [catgruff]

nothing

17:32:35 [catgruff]

nevermind :)

17:34:32 [mudcrow]

http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=5939805 huh? thats just his name back to front?

17:36:11 [Kerensky97]

Yeah looks more like it should just be his sort name.

17:36:12 [mudcrow]

http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=5939811 another one

17:37:30 [mke]

Muz: what's so bad about macs?

17:37:33 [mudcrow]

looks Hungarian or simialr. do hungarians have strange naming conventions, like last name first?

17:37:39 [mke]

Muz: I'm using one now and I wouldn't trade it for a windows machine if you paid me :)

17:37:55 [mke]

Muz: I recently switched and in terms of work efficiency, mac >> windows, for me

17:38:21 [catgruff]

mudcrow: http://www.discogs.com/subs/view/2336559

17:40:04 [Muz]

mke, I'm used to Windows and Linux

17:40:11 [Muz]

There're so many little things that just piss me off

17:40:20 [Muz]

But that's me, hence why I said "I hate Macs"

17:40:23 [Muz]

Not "Macs are shit"

17:40:46 [mke]

I'm not trying to start an argument. Just want to know your reasons :)

17:41:09 [mudcrow]

I doubt it would be accepted Mo. Discogs wants it how its printed on the release. O Zone should probablly be a Artist Name Variation of The O-Zone

17:41:11 [mke]

What are the little things? I guarantee you I'll have an answer for 99% of them, because little things used to piss me off too before I messed around enough to get it the way I want it

17:41:35 [catgruff]

mudcrow: how do you do that then?

17:41:41 [warp]

* warp notices an opportunity

17:41:48 [catgruff]

hi warp?

17:41:48 [warp]

mke: how do I maximize windows? :)

17:41:57 [warp]

catgruff: hi

17:42:08 [warp]

banana mo

17:42:21 [mke]

warp: I know. total lameness. i wrote myself an applescript and bound it to ctrl+cmd+m

17:42:41 [mudcrow]

edit the release, next to the artist name click the + type the mispelled name in there. O Zone. In the artist box where it says O Zone now, type the correct name

17:42:43 [FauxFaux]

Continuing from this morning, anyone have any objections to entering an audio-rip of a dvd as a live/bootleg, and, if not, thoughts on a title? http://www.sanity.com.au/product/dvd.asp?sku=758672

17:42:48 [mke]

warp: it's a 5-line thing and it works as well as a regular maximizing button now. it should work by default, yes, but oh well.

17:43:22 [warp]

mke: any link for that? or care to dcc/mail me that script?

17:43:23 [Muz]

mke, for one I'm used to two mouse buttons, and a scroll wheel, not some little rubber ball that is annoying to grip

17:43:35 [mke]

Muz: so plug your own mouse in?

17:43:37 [Muz]

mke, keyboard shortcuts, general navigation of the OS, display settings

17:43:38 [mudcrow]

fauxfaux: NO BULL: LIVE: PLAZA DE TOROS MADRID

17:43:40 [mke]

warp: sure, hold on.

17:43:49 [catgruff]

I'd rather remove all auddio rips od dvd's

17:43:50 [Muz]

mke, it's not worth it for the amount of time I'll be using this Mac

17:44:04 [FauxFaux]

mudcrow: That's one ugly-ass title, even without the caps. :p

17:44:29 [mke]

muz, then you really have no right to say you hate it :) I've used plenty of PCs where I've hated the keyboard and the mice,just because they're clunky or ugly. Doesn't mean the PC was bad though!

17:44:47 [mudcrow]

fauxfaux. enter it as No Bull then

17:44:53 [Muz]

Bad looks and aesthetics aren't my gripe. There's a whole fucking button missing

17:45:05 [warp]

hm.. a button missing?

17:45:10 [mke]

Macs work fine with ANY MOUSE YOU PLUG IN

17:45:11 [Muz]

"Right click" ;)

17:45:21 [mudcrow]

did i enter the I LOVE MAC room by mistake?

17:45:29 [mke]

I can plug a 5 button mouse in and then I can have a left-click, right-click, thumb-click, anything! :)

17:45:34 [Muz]

mke, I know that, but you didn't see what I said about it not being worth the hassle

17:45:38 [warp]

Muz: but if you have the rubber ball, i assume you have a mighty mouse -- which can right click.

17:45:58 [Muz]

warp, if you always rest two fingers on the mouse it'll treat it like a left click

17:46:43 [mke]

warp: try that .scpt. I invoke it using a Quicksilver trigger.

17:47:09 [Muz]

mke, you need to realise that I said "I hate Macs", not "Macs are shit". Thus the basis of my argument is how the machine doesn't cater for me

17:47:34 [Muz]

as a user who has a number of habits as it were that are consistant across Windows/Linux by default

17:47:40 [warp]

Muz: ah, but then it's not actually missing. :) but i can see the thing isn't compatible with you :)

17:48:31 [mke]

Muz, yes of course. I'm just saying that if you don't set it up the way you like it, then more fool you. You can't expect everything to cater exactly to your wishes straight out of the box. It may not be worth the hassle in your case, but I'm sure if you took the time to set it up and installed software/used a good enough mouse for you, you'll see it's quite cool.

17:48:37 [warp]

mke: thanks, i'll try that later tonight. (i'm not on the mac right now).

17:48:43 [mke]

warp: ll

17:48:46 [mke]

er. kk. :P

17:49:05 [Muz]

mke, but Windows and Linux work perfectly for me straight off the CD as it were

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17:49:21 [warp]

* warp tries to think of other mac annoyances to pester mke with >;)

17:49:35 [Muz]

And it's hassle to either get used to Mac specific behaviour, or to go and rip the mouse of out the back of my machine and move it to the Mac solely for this short period of time

17:50:15 [Muz]

The amount of time it would take for me to customise the Mac would be silly, and even then, there are OS specific things which would be even more inconvenient to change like redoing the keyboard mapping

17:50:26 [mke]

Muz: Oh really. So you're ok with *all* settings for *every* linux distribution, straight off the CD?

17:50:31 [mke]

Somehow I find that unbelievable :)

17:50:35 [warp]

Muz: isn't that just because you're used to both of those? there's a fair amount of difference between the windows UI and KDE and Gnome.

17:50:47 [Muz]

mke, with Linux, it's more a case of the X environment, and I can cope fine with KDE and Gnome

17:50:52 [mke]

warp: go for it :)

17:51:13 [Muz]

mke, and no, not *all* the settings, but enough to be able to do what I need to at a competent speed

17:52:06 [Muz]

mke, the most customisation I often do with Linux in regards to KDE or Gnome is changing my desktop to something nicer, like plain black. Otherwise, most things just stay as they are

17:55:22 [catgruff]

mudcrow: http://www.discogs.com/subs/view/2336624

17:55:24 [catgruff]

:B

17:56:56 [warp]

mke: do you use anything for easier window resizing? (like mondo mouse or windowdragon)

17:57:29 [ojnkpjg]

init 3 && screen :)

17:58:03 [mke]

warp: Not at all. I don't resize my windows much. Maximise them is usually all I do. I think that's why I have four virtual desktops. I run out of real estate quick :)

17:59:16 [warp]

mke: i always had two monitors with stuff maximized on each. now that i'm back to a single notebook screen I do tend to have non-maximized windows more often.

18:00:45 [mke]

meh. all i have is my powerbook. i run out of space on a 15" display quite quickly. Expose helps, as does having virtual desktops. (virtuedesktops is the good choice for macs)

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18:01:53 [warp]

mke: i'm sort of waiting on leopard for spaces. too lazy to try other alternatives.

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18:02:19 [mke]

trust me, virtuedesktops rocks the socks off Spaces.

18:02:21 [mudcrow]

mo. nice job. but you mispelt The O-Zone. you typed it as O Zone, The

18:05:32 [catgruff]

arg

18:05:36 [catgruff]

sorry :((

18:05:52 [catgruff]

should I redo?

18:06:06 [catgruff]

and not do it as sortname?

18:06:13 [catgruff]

I thought that wasthe prefered everywhere

18:06:19 [catgruff]

I guessed wrong :/

18:06:46 [catgruff]

also wtf amazon has a "ProductWiki"

18:06:49 [catgruff]

oO

18:07:27 [FauxFaux]

* FauxFaux needs more cpus and an openmp version of libofa. :)

18:08:38 [catgruff]

only clap

18:08:44 [catgruff]

bah

18:09:03 [mudcrow]

yes its should be O-Zone, The. you type O Zone, The you missed the dash

18:09:04 [catgruff]

http://musicbrainz.org/album/6376206f-2ab7-4cc3-bda7-551c722fcae5.html 6 http://musicbrainz.org/album/7bd621c7-fe27-42ce-8cf2-20f24609a199.html

18:09:08 [catgruff]

yay

18:09:11 [catgruff]

not

18:09:14 [warp]

mke: oh, Terminal is a bit weird with UTF8 sometimes, or.. maybe not Terminal.. but i have no idea where the bug may be.

18:09:52 [warp]

mke: http://www.frob.nl/tmp/utf8.terminal.app.png

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18:10:49 [mke]

* mke gasps. Where's your semitransparency??

18:10:59 [warp]

black is good.

18:10:59 [mke]

Anyway I'm not sure, my Terminal never as problems with UTF-8.

18:11:29 [warp]

it's probably not Terminal, ls doesn't work, but ls | cat does work. which i feel is very odd :)

18:11:30 [mke]

Make sure CharacteR Set Encoding is set to UTF-8

18:12:20 [mke]

and your bash profile has LC_ALL=en_US.utf8 set

18:12:27 [ojnkpjg]

i think terminal is crap

18:12:31 [ojnkpjg]

i just use xterm

18:12:33 [ojnkpjg]

on os x

18:12:49 [mke]

i find terminal works beautifully for everything.

18:12:56 [ojnkpjg]

luck you, i guess

18:13:07 [ojnkpjg]

er, lucky

18:13:28 [mke]

brb!

18:13:46 [ojnkpjg]

i finally ditched os x completely on my old powerbook

18:13:50 [ojnkpjg]

(G3, 400mhz)

18:13:54 [ojnkpjg]

and put FC6 on it

18:14:33 [FauxFaux]

41% of my music files have artist-id tags, nearly there. :(

18:14:38 [warp]

hm, how do i set that? i did export LC_ALL=en_US.utf8, which shows up in a 'set | grep ^LC', but the output of 'locale' hasn't changed. odd.

18:16:07 [warp]

ojnkpjg: xterm (and X11 in general) is peculiar on OS X with copy/paste.

18:16:12 [FauxFaux]

* FauxFaux uses dpkg-reconfigure locales to regenerate the missing ones.

18:16:33 [FauxFaux]

I guess that doesn't help you, however. :)

18:16:44 [warp]

not on this machine, no :)

18:17:10 [ojnkpjg]

yeah, it's weird with cmd+c

18:17:16 [ojnkpjg]

but i just use the mouse

18:17:57 [warp]

i'm so happy that keyboard paste finally works in this terminal :)

18:20:28 [ojnkpjg]

os x got slower and slower with ever major version bump for me :\

18:20:41 [ojnkpjg]

which no doubt has a lot to do with the ancient video card in my poor old machine

18:20:44 [mke]

warp: vim ~/.bash_profile

18:20:49 [ojnkpjg]

and a 400mhz cpu doesn't help, either

18:21:01 [warp]

mke: nah, that's not it. the .utf8 should've been .UTF-8

18:21:02 [mke]

warp: sit it in there as a line just as i said, then start a new terminal window and try env | grep LC

18:21:21 [mke]

ok. it works as .utf8 for me :)

18:21:46 [warp]

mke: i think it has to match a locale in /usr/share/locale

18:21:50 [mke]

yes.

18:21:59 [warp]

mke: it does show up with the 'locale' command now.

18:22:19 [warp]

problem isn't solved though :)

18:22:30 [mke]

that's very weird. :(

18:22:56 [warp]

it's so odd that it works through cat, and doesn't otherwise. same thing happens in an uxterm on this machine.

18:23:08 [ojnkpjg]

did you try setting $LANG

18:23:16 [ojnkpjg]

i don't know if that makes a difference or not

18:23:45 [mke]

you might have to yeah

18:23:54 [mke]

anyway, i have to run.

18:23:57 [mke]

ciao everyone!

18:24:06 [warp]

no change.

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mke: bye

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* mustaqila lets a herd of moose free in the channel

20:07:46 [warp]

* warp runs around screaming

20:11:33 [Freso]

:o

20:13:35 [mustaqila]

A rooom, with a mooose!

20:13:41 [mustaqila]

* mustaqila leaves you all to your... moosey fate!

20:19:32 [warp]

* warp ticks off another thing on his wiki todo list.

20:20:19 [BrianG]

bye bye rumsfeld

20:26:46 [mudcrow]

thats it! I quit last.fm

20:26:56 [BrianG]

?

20:26:58 [praest76]

Because of Rumfeld?

20:27:06 [mudcrow]

http://www.last.fm/user/blownchunks/ how can that be my closest musical neighbour?

20:27:19 [praest76]

I never pay attention to that.

20:27:43 [praest76]

I don't think I have much in common with any of my "musical neighbours"

20:28:03 [praest76]

Most of them look like the kind of people that would annoy me.

20:28:14 [praest76]

Though that does tend to be most people.

20:28:42 [BrianG]

i went to school with a Sean Douglas

20:28:48 [BrianG]

he has 2 first names

20:29:42 [mustaqila]

mudcrow, it's a new algorithm

20:29:48 [mustaqila]

A more accurate one at that too

20:30:06 [mudcrow]

i noticed. I suddenly got the local retard school as neighbours

20:30:15 [mustaqila]

You listen to punk...

20:30:31 [praest76]

"There's no actual evidence for it, but it is scientific fact."

20:30:48 [mustaqila]

To put it bluntly, a lot of punk listeners are idiots. Sadly, the same goes for metal too

20:31:08 [Freso]

* Freso listens to punk...

20:31:17 [mustaqila]

A lot, not all

20:31:26 [warp]

mustaqila: people in general really

20:31:27 [mudcrow]

I liked my old neighbours, they'd been the same people forever

20:31:33 [praest76]

Can sa that about most musical genres

20:44:11 [BrianG]

i saw some crazy rad spikes at a metal show at work t he other night

20:44:27 [BrianG]

Celtic Frost and Goatwhore

20:44:55 [mustaqila]

I know of the former, not the latter though

20:45:02 [BrianG]

i wants me some bullet belts

20:45:28 [BrianG]

the lead singer of Celtic Frost is like 3 feet tall

20:47:17 [Freso]

Hey, can anyone recommend some good punk groups?

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20:47:37 [BrianG]

aquabats!

20:47:40 [BrianG]

or are they ska?

20:47:56 [mudcrow]

Wat Tyler

20:48:48 [ruaok]

* ruaok waves

20:49:02 [BrianG]

blink 182 :P

20:49:05 [mudcrow]

Vennaskond

20:49:05 [mudcrow]

JMKE

20:49:05 [mudcrow]

Disrupters, Icons Of Filth, Toy Dolls, newtown Neurotics

20:49:34 [mustaqila]

Holy fuck

20:49:40 [mustaqila]

I think I just wet myself

20:49:44 [mustaqila]

BattleField 2142 is amazing

20:50:22 [mudcrow]

hi ruaok

20:50:22 [mudcrow]

blink 182 are ok for those that like that style

20:50:31 [catgruff]

meh punk

20:50:39 [BrianG]

blink field 1842

20:50:44 [catgruff]

heh

20:50:57 [ruaok]

hi mud!

20:51:01 [catgruff]

* catgruff pokes his recent tracks

20:51:20 [BrianG]

i've been listening to Jenny Lewis the past 24 hours

20:52:07 [mustaqila]

With or without the Watson Twins?

20:52:09 [ruaok]

* ruaok has been listening to the latest thievery corp

20:52:12 [BrianG]

with

20:52:26 [BrianG]

not a bad cd for 12 bucks

20:52:27 [catgruff]

koji kondo ftw

20:52:33 [catgruff]

zelda!

20:52:36 [catgruff]

:D

20:52:44 [catgruff]

* catgruff dances stupidly

20:53:18 [BrianG]

with the watson twins, but you wouldn't be able to tell from the artist image

20:54:43 [mudcrow]

Freso: any and all on my top artists http://www.last.fm/user/mudcrow/ wide range of different styles

20:55:01 [mudcrow]

I found a thompson twins single earlier in my collection.. erm but we wont mention that

20:55:20 [BrianG]

was it next to your Proclaimers album?

20:55:57 [BrianG]

im thinking about wipeing my last.fm stats

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20:58:41 [catgruff]

lol http://musicbrainz.org/artist/12b5617f-3bb3-419a-a258-2058015c6113.html

21:00:21 [BrianG]

i'm missing whatever it is

21:01:49 [mudcrow]

i would walk 500 miles and i would walk 500 more

21:02:17 [mudcrow]

to be the man who walked a 100 miles to dum dum door

21:02:37 [catgruff]

could I have two more votes on this http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=5940052 (thanks mud btw) so I can clean up this mess

21:02:49 [catgruff]

discogs are teh shite

21:20:05 [Freso]

BrianG: I'm not getting it either.

21:24:14 [catgruff]

ah its getting late

21:24:17 [catgruff]

I need me bed

21:24:20 [catgruff]

night folks

21:26:01 [catgruff]

.. i think it must bwe a norwegian thing to be amused by 'the Y2k's'

21:26:01 [Freso]

Sov godt :)

21:26:15 [catgruff]

we also have the jessica fletchers

21:26:19 [catgruff]

natta :)

21:27:30 [FauxFaux]

Night catgruff!

21:29:33 [BrianG]

fletcher. ha

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21:32:44 [BrianG]

oh i thought it was feltcher

21:50:16 [luks]

hahaha http://blog.musicip.com/2006/11/06/reports-are-here/

21:50:20 [luks]

USA = world :D

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21:59:23 [ruaok]

ha. I just got some spam with the subject line "unreliable moose"

21:59:25 [ruaok]

* ruaok snickers

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luks: how do you compile libofa on win? cygwin or did we just go with msvc++?

22:06:27 [ruaok]

* ruaok remembers some issues there

22:06:56 [luks]

I think I used the msvc project file

22:07:02 [ruaok]

k

22:10:15 [BrianG]

i wonder how much spam that blog gets

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23:18:20 [mudcrow]

any idea if its spelt Marguerite Monnot or Margueritte Monnot?

23:19:08 [mudcrow]

Claude Delécluse or Claude Delecluse or Claude Délécluse?

23:19:28 [mudcrow]

where's the panda when you need him?

23:24:28 [ruaok]

mudcrow: http://www.google.com/search?q=Margueritte%20Monnot&sourceid=mozilla2&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

23:24:30 [ruaok]

:-)

23:25:00 [mudcrow]

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Marguerite+Monnot&btnG=Search&meta= just as many results using the other spelling

23:25:34 [ruaok]

yes, but the other spelling includes wikipedia as the top hit.

23:26:07 [ruaok]

single t seems to be it

23:26:41 [mudcrow]

looks like it. fr.wiki spells it that way (I trust the french wiki to spell it correctly)

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23:40:21 [mudcrow]

sheesh. the label on this single has every name credited misspelt

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hello

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damn, be right back

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