IRC log of musicbrainz on 2006-11-30
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- 00:00:08 [Creap]
- it's alt. 2 in the database right now
- 00:01:24 [mll]
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- 00:01:31 [mll]
- Hi there
- 00:01:46 [Kerensky97]
- I think 2 is fine, the third may work too but I'm not really sure if it's a subtitle. The spine of the CD would probably helps sort things out.
- 00:01:46 [mll]
- anayone awake ? Question about the wiki.
- 00:02:30 [Creap]
- it's alt. 1 on the label's homepage
- 00:02:50 [Creap]
- well it's not really that important, I'm just fussy and I'm doing changes to that release anyways so
- 00:03:42 [Kerensky97]
- On MB alt 1 would convert to alt 3. But many people would argue that it's artist intent and should stay alt 1.
- 00:04:01 [Kerensky97]
- I say just leave it :P
- 00:04:04 [Creap]
- yeah :)
- 00:04:44 [catgruff]
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- 00:05:07 [mll]
- I subscribed to some pages on the wiki, but upon entering changes, the system says "Status of sending notification mails: [en] mo: Mail sent OK", but nothing about me! :(
- 00:05:29 [mll]
- Like in http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/WhatNotToLinkTo
- 00:05:36 [mll]
- What did I do wrong ?
- 00:06:08 [mll]
- (I did set an adress in the wiki user prefs)
- 00:06:33 [nightgroove]
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- 00:08:41 [Creap]
- ehm, I added a disc ID to an album without track times, now I can't add/edit track times.
- 00:10:35 [mll]
- Normally, adding a DiscID through Picard does set the track times values.
- 00:11:08 [Creap]
- I did CD lookup and then added via the web..
- 00:11:26 [Kerensky97]
- It takes about 24 hours for the times to show up when you enter a discID
- 00:11:33 [Kerensky97]
- Check it tomorrow.
- 00:11:34 [Creap]
- oh ok.
- 00:12:28 [Kerensky97]
- mll: The same thing happened to me. I'm subscribed to three or so and have never seen an email. I've never really looked into it though.
- 00:15:32 [mll]
- I just asked the wiki to "Mail me my account data" (in the user prefs page), and I just received it. Clearly something is clunky, checking bugs.mb.org...
- 00:17:23 [mll]
- ...found nothing in bugs, filing a new one...
- 00:17:31 [Kerensky97]
- Weird, I wonder if you have to do that every time you want the info.
- 00:19:16 [mll]
- No, I mean, I received a general information mail about my account, but still no sight of mail about pages changes.
- 00:29:43 [mll]
- Kerensky: see http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/2295
- 00:33:01 [Kerensky97]
- I was afraid that my email was wrong but rfom what you're getting it looks like that's probably not the problem.
- 00:34:09 [mll]
- You can check if your address is wrong at http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/UserPreferences
- 00:38:12 [mll]
- Time to get some sleep. 'night all
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- 02:36:08 [FauxFaux]
- I think some artists just try to be difficult.. two albums with the same name, but differnt ordering. ;(
- 02:36:15 [FauxFaux]
- * FauxFaux needs to make a more cunning sort-rule.
- 02:41:55 [FauxFaux]
- Anyone want to raise me on if (album artist id is 89ad4ac3-39f7-470e-963a-56509c546377 (va)) { album title, albumid } else { album artist sortname, album artist id }, trackno, assert?
- 02:59:05 [FauxFaux]
- Oh, I like that.
- 03:00:59 [FauxFaux]
- http://paste.axpr.net/?show=117718 I think.
- 03:08:16 [`Spike]
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- 03:54:51 [thedcm]
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- 03:55:04 [thedcm]
- why is that sometimes the tagger link shows up and sometimes it doesnt
- 03:56:07 [thedcm]
- however I can get the album id or whatever and manipulate a tag link and it works fine
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- 05:08:46 [srotta]
- Hmm, anyone else having problems with getting PUIDs?
- 05:08:58 [srotta]
- This time not for weird charactered titles, but for everything :P
- 05:10:32 [srotta]
- MusicDNS servers seem to be out of business.
- 05:13:15 [horar]
- mine isn't
- 05:14:01 [srotta]
- ?
- 05:14:34 [horar]
- mb gets it's freedb data from my site at tracktype.org and there is still plenty of traffic from there at the moment.
- 05:15:01 [srotta]
- The problem is MusicDNS, not FreeDB or MusicBrainz.
- 05:15:17 [horar]
- what is musicdns?
- 05:15:38 [srotta]
- It's the audio fingerprint provider MB is using.
- 05:15:58 [horar]
- ah ok
- 05:16:25 [horar]
- hmm. maybe i should try implementing that too.
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- 06:12:25 [catgruff]
- kerensky, mll, : you don't get mails for your *own* wikiedits.
- 06:13:06 [catgruff]
- I just made an edit then, and I get Status of sending notification mails: [en] mll: Mail sent OK
- 06:13:28 [catgruff]
- also hma can explain why that is a bad idea
- 06:13:33 [catgruff]
- * catgruff nods
- 06:13:40 [catgruff]
- cause he ain't a wake proper
- 06:14:02 [catgruff]
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- 06:14:45 [ikkevaaken]
- det er så dumt at man ikke can ha å eller ø, æ i navnet, for meger det jo helt tormale bokstaver, ikke noe spesielt med dem, lissom
- 06:15:13 [ikkevaaken]
- ersj
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- catsfods
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- 06:34:55 [mantice]
- Could some one give me some tips to help me tag my music collection, Im having a hard time tagging unclustered files
- 06:37:53 [mantice]
- It also seams when Im draging the song onto the albem I cant use the scroll wheel. How else are you supose to tag the unclustered files
- 06:39:33 [juhae]
- If you have any sort of tags in them, you can cluster them first
- 06:39:43 [juhae]
- And they'll be grouped according to the album in the already-existing tags
- 06:40:26 [juhae]
- If not, just go with a small number of files so that you can fit both the unclustered files and the album into the same screen
- 06:42:43 [mantice]
- Juhae is it safe to delete the album ID's Music Brainz has ?
- 06:42:57 [srotta]
- From files?
- 06:43:06 [mantice]
- no
- 06:43:50 [mantice]
- Im my Album folder I have like 300 + Albums
- 06:43:56 [mantice]
- Can I delete them
- 06:44:07 [mantice]
- This is in music brainz
- 06:44:51 [mantice]
- Well i did it ant music brainz crashed :(
- 06:45:23 [mantice]
- They came back again and I deleted them again and its fine
- 06:46:01 [juhae]
- I don't understand what you mean right now.
- 06:47:01 [mantice]
- You know that file tree that has Unclusted files and Albums
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- 09:00:08 [JaXxon]
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- 09:00:23 [JaXxon]
- Hi all
- 09:00:31 [JaXxon]
- Faux are you there?
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- 09:03:27 [DraX]
- my picard is just stalling after i add songs to the add files bit
- 09:03:34 [DraX]
- just sits there; i set PICARD_DEBUG=1
- 09:03:42 [DraX]
- and they are all just sitting with tp status of ePending
- 09:04:10 [DraX]
- i lie.. one just moved
- 09:04:13 [DraX]
- just very slow...
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- 09:08:58 [luks_]
- DraX: the musicdns servers seems to be broken right now, that's why it's so slow
- 09:09:21 [DraX]
- luks_: ahhh
- 09:09:27 [DraX]
- luks_: and why i get no puid for each song
- 09:09:41 [luks_]
- i hope they will fix it soon
- 09:09:48 [DraX]
- luks_: is there a way i can tell it to skip PUID resolving?
- 09:10:01 [luks_]
- yes, in the options
- 09:10:35 [luks_]
- uncheck the "auto fingerprinting" checkbox
- 09:11:37 [DraX]
- luks_: yup
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- luks_: thanks
- 09:18:14 [luks_]
- no problem :)
- 09:18:19 [luks_]
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- 09:20:43 [JaXxon]
- Hi, Anyone there?
- 09:22:38 [luks]
- nope :)
- 09:25:38 [JaXxon]
- Hi luks
- 09:25:45 [luks]
- hi
- 09:26:45 [JaXxon]
- I am looking for a script that will generate an HTML report of my mp3's. I tried mp3Report but get an out of mem error. Do you have any sugestions as to other scripts?
- 09:27:04 [JaXxon]
- That run on linux
- 09:27:10 [luks]
- no idea. i've never used something like that
- 09:27:18 [JaXxon]
- k
- 09:27:20 [JaXxon]
- thanks
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- 09:46:35 [FauxFaux]
- * FauxFaux wonders where JaxXxXxXxon went.
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- baap
- 11:21:59 [FauxFaux]
- Bååp!
- 11:22:06 [catgroove]
- bøøp
- 11:22:19 [catgroove]
- knall
- 11:22:34 [FauxFaux]
- Búûùp, etc. :)
- 11:22:41 [catgroove]
- løl that was funky
- 11:23:00 [catgroove]
- Búûùp
- 11:23:04 [catgroove]
- kjempekul
- 11:23:32 [catgroove]
- if nikki was here she's sho up a capital reverse letter , or something
- 11:23:38 [catgroove]
- B not.. a box
- 11:23:46 [catgroove]
- ladedida?
- 11:23:48 [FauxFaux]
- There're some really funky letters here, like ắằ.
- 11:23:49 [catgroove]
- o_O
- 11:23:53 [catgroove]
- :O
- 11:24:06 [FauxFaux]
- Or the Enterprise: ÑŽ.
- 11:24:22 [catgroove]
- RúûùЯ
- 11:24:31 [catgroove]
- heh enterprise
- 11:25:00 [FauxFaux]
- Lol, enterprise!
- 11:25:04 [Muz]
- Moose!
- 11:25:12 [catgroove]
- hi muz
- 11:25:19 [catgroove]
- lol internet
- 11:25:20 [FauxFaux]
- К with bendy bits!
- 11:25:21 [catgroove]
- lol moose
- 11:25:55 [FauxFaux]
- Ṁ⒪őⓢȅ!
- 11:26:01 [catgroove]
- ja jøss
- 11:26:57 [catgroove]
- I read that as mo-øse
- 11:27:08 [FauxFaux]
- * FauxFaux is still giggling about ⒪⒪.
- 11:27:17 [catgroove]
- which means something like 'mo' laedl
- 11:27:19 [catgroove]
- ladl?
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- 11:27:23 [catgroove]
- ladel
- 11:27:36 [FauxFaux]
- You're such a ladel, catgroove.
- 11:27:43 [catgroove]
- FauxFaux, you mean ( . )( . )
- 11:27:45 [catgroove]
- :PP
- 11:27:50 [FauxFaux]
- (.Y.)
- 11:27:51 [catgroove]
- I am
- 11:27:54 [catgroove]
- a pervy one
- 11:28:00 [catgroove]
- heh
- 11:28:18 [catgroove]
- * catgroove snickers, remove the dots and you got something quite different
- 11:28:37 [FauxFaux]
- A Ybracket!
- 11:29:33 [catgroove]
- maybe make the brackets [ ] or | instead
- 11:29:46 [FauxFaux]
- catgroove has a robot fetish. ¬_¬
- 11:30:28 [catgroove]
- neei!
- 11:30:31 [catgroove]
- just .. heheee
- 11:30:38 [catgroove]
- hi muz!
- 11:30:41 [catgroove]
- mange elger!
- 11:33:15 [catgroove]
- muz, din elgku, svar når jeg snakker til deg! :p
- 11:34:17 [FauxFaux]
- Stop making up letters, catgroove. :/
- 11:34:32 [catgroove]
- vafforno?!
- 11:36:02 [FauxFaux]
- "Now I know my Ay-Bee-Sea-Haloa-Owithslashythinginit-Uwithcrazyhats, won't you come and play with me?" /really/ doesn't work.
- 11:36:42 [catgroove]
- Å Ø Û?
- 11:37:02 [FauxFaux]
- Yes, those ones.
- 11:37:18 [FauxFaux]
- * FauxFaux grabs a piece of paper, scrawls on it for a bit, and proclaims it a new letter.
- 11:37:26 [catgroove]
- Æ?
- 11:37:31 [catgroove]
- π?
- 11:37:43 [catgroove]
- µ?
- 11:37:47 [catgroove]
- €?
- 11:37:51 [catgroove]
- æ„›!
- 11:38:02 [catgroove]
- æ‹ çŒ«
- 11:38:20 [catgroove]
- æ‹æ„› 猫
- 11:38:28 [catgroove]
- 何?
- 11:38:56 [FauxFaux]
- I call it "everybodywantstorueltheworld", in honour of 9d9e3607-49d2-4b11-9018-8ddbf03f16b2.
- 11:38:56 [catgroove]
- 心 ã†ãµãµãµãµ
- 11:39:23 [FauxFaux]
- ¦ and ¬ are the most exotic things I can type, iirc.
- 11:39:33 [catgroove]
- 女 ç”· 猫 æ‹æ„› 心 ã†ãµãµãµ
- 11:40:02 [catgroove]
- those are, onna otoko, renai kokoro ufufufu
- 11:40:10 [FauxFaux]
- What/ever/.
- 11:40:32 [catgroove]
- whatever
- 11:40:45 [catgroove]
- ã†ãµãµãµ
- 11:41:20 [FauxFaux]
- * FauxFaux wonders why picard does't write the track id to the file, but does write TRM stuff.
- 11:41:24 [Muz]
- Hei mo
- 11:41:43 [catgroove]
- hi muz! :D
- 11:42:33 [Muz]
- * Muz is busy with stuff
- 11:42:57 [catgroove]
- okiday
- 11:47:45 [luks]
- FauxFaux: it does write track ids
- 11:47:45 [luks]
- but afaik you use foobar, which deletes them
- 11:47:54 [FauxFaux]
- Gah. :(
- 11:48:04 [FauxFaux]
- * FauxFaux really needs to find a new media player.
- 11:48:49 [FauxFaux]
- Thanks luks. :\
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- Here Luks?
- 12:09:36 [luks]
- yes
- 12:10:04 [adhawkins]
- Another disk ID question.
- 12:10:10 [adhawkins]
- I have an audio CD which has a data track at the end.
- 12:10:19 [adhawkins]
- Should the disk ID calculation include that data track?
- 12:10:40 [luks]
- no
- 12:10:46 [adhawkins]
- Good answer :)
- 12:11:32 [adhawkins]
- I was hoping you'd say that.
- 12:12:13 [adhawkins]
- When I rip to single-album FLAC, do you think I'll have to edit the CUE sheet to remove reference to the data track?
- 12:12:19 [adhawkins]
- It won't be present in the file I'm compressing
- 12:12:30 [luks]
- hmm
- 12:12:46 [luks]
- which software produces cuesheets with data tracks included?
- 12:13:18 [adhawkins]
- cdrdao
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- * catgroove hmms
- 12:16:04 [catgroove]
- FauxFaux: was iy you who was dl in stuff of youtube?
- 12:16:20 [FauxFaux]
- No, youchoob sucks. :)
- 12:16:27 [catgroove]
- akkuratt
- 12:16:35 [FauxFaux]
- Although I will have to go watch that "Ameteur"(sp) thing again.
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- juhae?
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- catgroove: oui?
- 12:35:00 [catgroove]
- http://chatlogs.musicbrainz.org/2006/2006-11/2006-11-28.html#T18-53-03-527482
- 12:35:05 [catgroove]
- you mentioed dl stuff
- 12:35:08 [catgroove]
- how do you do that=
- 12:35:10 [catgroove]
- ?
- 12:35:42 [juhae]
- there's a videodownloader extension for firefox
- 12:35:44 [catgroove]
- * catgroove would loveto have http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUAYO7Zyydk
- 12:35:51 [catgroove]
- oh firefox, bleh
- 12:36:00 [juhae]
- and then there are sites like keepvid.com
- 12:36:12 [juhae]
- i don't know if theres an extension for your trout browser ;)
- 12:36:18 [catgroove]
- bah
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- Hi. There's this artist, Jr. Walker & the All Stars, they're almost always credited with "Jr." and not "Junior", but someone voted no saying MB policy is to spell out the full name when in doubt (see http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=6054148), but the only thing I found was that the _sort name_ should be spelled out.
- 13:07:10 [Creap]
- What's correct?
- 13:09:49 [luks]
- it's http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/AbbreviationStyle, but that mainly for extra information like vers. -> version
- 13:12:54 [mudcrow]
- I've never seen Jr. expanded to Junior. If thats enforced you'd have to do the same with Dr = Doctor, Mr = Mister etc
- 13:24:13 [Creap]
- yeah..
- 13:24:45 [Creap]
- DiscJockey, hehe
- 13:34:27 [catgroove]
- yea
- 13:34:28 [catgroove]
- lol
- 13:34:41 [catgroove]
- * catgroove afkss
- 13:34:59 [Creap]
- I'm checking which track names for almost-duplicates in iTunes are correct with amg, google, etc, and then searching by track in the mb-db and fixing :-(
- 13:35:16 [Creap]
- I guess OCD is what gets these kinds of databases going...
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- luks: Foobar deletes track ids? Huh?
- 14:21:20 [luks]
- yes
- 14:21:38 [srotta]
- In what circumstances?
- 14:21:52 [luks]
- well, it doesn't know how to display UFID frames, so it simply deletes them
- 14:22:52 [srotta]
- luks: Hmm, I've been using it for as long as I've been in MB, and so far it hasn't deleted them.
- 14:23:01 [luks]
- from MP3 files?
- 14:23:13 [luks]
- did you update tags in foobar?
- 14:23:24 [luks]
- or at least let it to add replay gain tags?
- 14:24:19 [luks]
- it simply deletes all frames it doesn't know about on every update
- 14:25:03 [srotta]
- I've edited some tags, no problems there.
- 14:25:20 [srotta]
- ReplayGain I haven't used.
- 14:25:35 [luks]
- I quite doubt they will fix it in 0.9.4, but I can try
- 14:25:48 [luks]
- err, would
- 14:26:11 [luks]
- btw, how do you check that the tags are still there?
- 14:26:44 [luks]
- no windows player/tagger i know about displays them
- 14:27:01 [srotta]
- eyed3 on Linux.
- 14:27:12 [srotta]
- Or by checking it with hex editor.
- 14:27:16 [FauxFaux]
- Why are the trackids different from the other info, ooi?
- 14:27:27 [srotta]
- FauxFaux: Because other info is comments.
- 14:27:29 [luks]
- because ID3 has a specific field for file identifiers
- 14:27:34 [srotta]
- FauxFaux: Track ID = UFID frame.
- 14:27:38 [FauxFaux]
- Aha, cunning.
- 14:28:15 [srotta]
- But as I said, no problems there whatsoever.
- 14:28:46 [luks]
- I'm downloading the latest foobar right now to test
- 14:29:12 [srotta]
- I have 0.9.3.1, and I've used older.
- 14:29:43 [luks]
- last time I've used 0.9.1 or something
- 14:31:00 [srotta]
- Foobar doesn't send the track ID to last.fm, though.
- 14:31:16 [luks]
- it can't, it doesn't know how to read the tags :)
- 14:31:28 [srotta]
- Yeah. It does send it with oggs.
- 14:33:50 [luks]
- oh, it seems to be fixed in 0.9.4
- 14:40:49 [srotta]
- Still no UFID support?
- 14:41:50 [luks]
- no
- 14:42:16 [luks]
- i'm trying some older versions and the UFID frames are still there
- 14:42:39 [luks]
- which is pretty weird, as i've seen numbers of bug reports about that
- 14:43:55 [luks]
- hm, maybe it was pre .9
- 14:44:09 [srotta]
- MusicIP Mixer also removed MB tags from files.
- 14:44:21 [luks]
- http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-users/2006-January/010930.html
- 14:44:37 [srotta]
- That is, you have to first set it to accept ID3 v2.4, otherwise it'll happily rewrite everything.
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- 16:05:18 [deadchip]
- guys!
- 16:05:19 [deadchip]
- erm
- 16:05:35 [deadchip]
- with the changed way MusicIP gives out keys now what is your recommended scheme for Picard ?
- 16:05:57 [deadchip]
- do you recommend people to get their own key and use it, or do you still have a fixed one for the entire Picard distribution?
- 16:11:27 [ojnkpjg]
- it'd be kind of silly for everyone to have to get their own key, i think
- 16:11:34 [ojnkpjg]
- what did musicip change? i haven't been keeping up?
- 16:15:52 [srotta]
- I don't know, but their genpuid tool apparently stopped working.
- 16:15:55 [srotta]
- :P
- 16:16:23 [luks]
- deadchip: they haven't changed anything. it's just their servers that are broken
- 16:16:33 [luks]
- i guess they are out of connection to the database
- 16:16:48 [deadchip]
- luks: yeah last night it was a total breakdown
- 16:16:54 [deadchip]
- right when i wanted to tell someone about PUIDs etc
- 16:17:00 [deadchip]
- and that led that guy to resort to TRMs
- 16:17:05 [deadchip]
- since "they seem to work"
- 16:17:05 [deadchip]
- lol
- 16:17:19 [deadchip]
- i told him he should come in here and tell you about TRM and see how long he survives
- 16:17:37 [deadchip]
- luks: ok i just thought that this triple-kind of licensing possibility for a key is new
- 16:17:54 [deadchip]
- the entirely-free key with now only 1000 lookups (i think that if that was stated before it was not clearly visible)
- 16:18:07 [deadchip]
- and the personally registered one with 5 Million lookups and then the business/premium key
- 16:18:26 [luks]
- ah that
- 16:18:31 [deadchip]
- i'm now pondering whether i should stick my 5 Million lookups key into BMP and give it out, or tell users to get their own
- 16:18:55 [deadchip]
- i already had a bad feeling back then when i stuck my "personally" registered Amazon WS key into BMP
- 16:19:17 [russ_]
- the amazon key only has per-ip limits though
- 16:19:29 [deadchip]
- russ_: yeah but it can be probably abused in some ways
- 16:19:33 [deadchip]
- somehow
- 16:19:38 [deadchip]
- and that would then fall back to me
- 16:19:42 [russ_]
- they really don't care though :)
- 16:19:50 [deadchip]
- russ_: lol
- 16:19:54 [deadchip]
- hmm
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- 16:36:08 [srotta]
- deadchip: Well, they are talking about MusicDNS Projects catalog in their blog, and the way to get there is to use a MusicDNS key.
- 16:36:28 [srotta]
- deadchip: It wouldn't really make sense if the key was required individually for every user.
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- 16:42:34 [deadchip]
- actually it seems they only have business licensing "plans"
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- 16:55:23 [Jooon]
- is there a simple way to do a blocking call to get puid from a filename with python tunepimp or do you always have to do the whole getNotification thing and check status?
- 16:55:28 [Jooon]
- right channel!
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- 16:58:13 [luks]
- not from tunepimp
- 16:59:36 [Jooon]
- ok, is there a simple ofa layer somewhere or should I wrap the c library myself?
- 16:59:58 [luks]
- well, the c library is just one function
- 17:00:03 [luks]
- the problem is audio decoding
- 17:00:12 [Jooon]
- oh yeah, true :)
- 17:00:37 [luks]
- i have some code for exactly this in picard-qt, but i have no plans to make a separate library out of it
- 17:01:18 [Jooon]
- how is picard-qt going by the way? I haven't even tried it yet
- 17:01:38 [luks]
- very slowly, i don't have much time for it
- 17:01:49 [Jooon]
- is it usable now?
- 17:01:54 [luks]
- i work on it only when i need to implement something for my own tagging :)
- 17:01:55 [luks]
- yes
- 17:02:12 [luks]
- or, depends on what do you expect
- 17:03:22 [deadchip]
- Jooon: you can also
- 17:03:25 [deadchip]
- (just for completeness)
- 17:03:53 [deadchip]
- Jooon: if you're developing on *nix you can also look at gst-puid, it's a gstreamer element i wrote that uses gst to decode the stream and then uses libofa to create the fingerprint and does a PUID lookup
- 17:04:00 [luks]
- but that's non-blocking too
- 17:04:18 [deadchip]
- hmm right
- 17:04:25 [deadchip]
- * deadchip reads back
- 17:04:39 [deadchip]
- err
- 17:04:52 [deadchip]
- luks + Jooon : what do you mean by non-blocking or blocking ?
- 17:05:04 [luks]
- no threads
- 17:05:07 [deadchip]
- like in the usual sense of blocking
- 17:05:16 [deadchip]
- luks: the internal gst threading is not exposed
- 17:05:26 [deadchip]
- for the API user the usage of the gstreamer element is blocking
- 17:05:45 [deadchip]
- the chain threading is internal and is not even accessible through the api
- 17:06:01 [deadchip]
- Jooon: well if you want, you can look here: http://projects.beep-media-player.org/index.php/Main/GstPUID
- 17:06:28 [luks]
- deadchip: it's not about touching threads directly, but not having to use something like polling or events
- 17:06:36 [luks]
- just call one functions, wait some time and get a puid
- 17:06:42 [Jooon]
- yes :)
- 17:07:00 [Jooon]
- just for a simple script I am writing
- 17:07:18 [deadchip]
- if you want to use it in a script
- 17:07:22 [Jooon]
- I guess I could just wrap a call to getpuid
- 17:07:26 [deadchip]
- then you can use the cli tool that comse with gst-puid
- 17:07:33 [Jooon]
- or that :)
- 17:07:37 [deadchip]
- or from puid.c from libtunepimp
- 17:07:55 [deadchip]
- both need either some source code editing to remove some output or some sed/awk stuff
- 17:08:32 [deadchip]
- Jooon: if you want to use it in a script then you can use either
- 17:08:45 [deadchip]
- and if you want to be really "safe" then i guess you should use libtp since that's official heh
- 17:09:04 [luks]
- Jooon: or get picard-qt, compile it and run python -c 'from picard import musicdns; musicdns.init(); musicdns.create_print("filename.mpg"); musicdns.done()' :)
- 17:09:13 [deadchip]
- hah
- 17:09:14 [deadchip]
- haha*
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- 17:10:06 [Jooon]
- ok, I am not out of options at least :)
- 17:10:43 [deadchip]
- what sucks about musicip though
- 17:10:51 [deadchip]
- i thought of this yesterday/last night when their servers were down
- 17:11:05 [deadchip]
- that they should spec their XML reply within a DTD or relaxng or xml schema
- 17:11:16 [deadchip]
- and specify all usual elements as optional, and also one optional <error/> element
- 17:11:17 [luks]
- the XML schema is MMD
- 17:11:37 [luks]
- http://svn.musicbrainz.org/mmd-schema/trunk/schema/musicbrainz_mmd-1.0.rng
- 17:11:38 [deadchip]
- luks: yeah but what they send out when their servers are broken is an HTML document
- 17:11:44 [Jooon]
- oh, I must find that file again. last week at a friend, we tried to write metadata to an album and it worked for every file but one, which totally hanged picard
- 17:11:46 [luks]
- ah, yes :)
- 17:12:23 [deadchip]
- <metadata xmlns="http://musicbrainz.org/ns/mmd/1/">
- 17:12:26 [deadchip]
- hmm yeah it's mmd
- 17:12:27 [luks]
- yeah
- 17:12:29 [deadchip]
- i "forgot" about it
- 17:12:37 [deadchip]
- since i didn't work on the gst element for long time lol
- 17:12:37 [luks]
- http://musicbrainz.org/ns/mmd/1/ is wrong
- 17:12:46 [luks]
- i was bugging them about a few months ago
- 17:12:52 [deadchip]
- ah
- 17:13:03 [deadchip]
- lol @ few months
- 17:13:12 [luks]
- it should be http://musicbrainz.org/ns/mmd-1.0#
- 17:15:06 [luks]
- Jooon: heh, i just noticed the question about libtp in #quodlibet
- 17:16:06 [Jooon]
- I noticed your nick and just asked the question, then I realized I was in the wrong channel
- 17:16:33 [luks]
- i just didn't get the "right channel!" before :)
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- aha
- 17:32:42 [Kerensky97]
- a-ha: "Take On Me"
- 17:32:49 [Sheffield]
- :-D
- 17:33:42 [Sheffield]
- today ive got unlim inet!!! i dream about it many years ^)
- 17:33:51 [Muz]
- zOMG
- 17:34:11 [Muz]
- Download this: http://static.last.fm/muz/avantasia.jpg
- 17:34:43 [Kerensky97]
- "The image “http://static.last.fm/muz/avantasia.jpg” cannot be displayed, because it contains errors."
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- Must be too big for firefox to want to touch
- 17:35:36 [Sheffield_2]
- [20:33] > and now i want many teeechnoo releases)
- 17:35:36 [Sheffield_2]
- [20:34] > i think soulseek will be good for it
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- 17:36:23 [Muz]
- Kerensky97, 128Mb big
- 17:36:25 [Muz]
- wget it
- 17:36:28 [Muz]
- :P
- 17:37:05 [luks]
- * luks is too curious to not download it :p
- 17:40:33 [Muz]
- Hehe
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- 17:52:15 [Dijital]
- hi room
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- 17:55:01 [Dijital]
- anyone here? ECHO echo echo echo....
- 17:55:17 [luks]
- cho ho o o ...
- 17:55:27 [Dijital]
- hi luks
- 17:56:05 [luks]
- hi
- 17:57:13 [Dijital]
- wanted to ask a question that i didn't feel was answered in the documentation. i've put together a promo DJ mix that i don't have rights clearance to sell, and thus i am giving away. i've entered it into MusicBrainz primarily so that it shows up on Last.fm (hi Muz). surely i'm the authority on its content and thus no-one else is in a position to vote on it?
- 17:58:07 [Dijital]
- link btw... http://musicbrainz.org/show/release/?releaseid=569124
- 17:58:29 [srotta]
- Humh, if you don't have the right to sell, do you have the right to give it away?-)
- 17:58:40 [Muz]
- Dijital, mail us a copy for free too and it can go straight into our database :)
- 18:00:21 [luks]
- Dijital: http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=6045961 - please no "ft." in artist names
- 18:01:43 [deadchip]
- yeah, use "starring" instead
- 18:01:44 [deadchip]
- :p
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- 18:16:41 [FauxFaux]
- * FauxFaux ponderes a bootleg marathon.
- 18:17:16 [Muz]
- * Muz ponders a moose marathon
- 18:17:28 [FauxFaux]
- 13cds of bootleggy goodness to rip, compress, enter into mb, tag, musicipmixer and tag again.
- 18:17:54 [Muz]
- I've eaten my way through 100< CDs today
- 18:17:57 [luks]
- uhh, what a waste of space to put BW image to jpg
- 18:18:02 [Muz]
- A label sent us their back catalogue for importing heh
- 18:18:15 [Muz]
- luks, I would have made a gif but it fucked up, a lot
- 18:18:17 [FauxFaux]
- Heh, makes me wish I had more drives (down to one).
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- 18:20:04 [catgroove]
- deadchip: no, use feat. not 'starring'
- 18:20:34 [catgroove]
- btw
- 18:20:37 [catgroove]
- Kerensky97: http://chatlogs.musicbrainz.org/2006/2006-11/2006-11-30.html#T06-12-25-979833
- 18:21:18 [catgroove]
- Muz: any good music? which label is it?
- 18:21:24 [deadchip]
- catgroove: i was just joking sorry
- 18:21:35 [catgroove]
- last.fm ia getting quite some more labesl and stuff now, aren't them
- 18:21:38 [Kerensky97]
- I don't think I've ever gotten mail from the wiki. But it is directed at my junk account so I may have just deleted them.
- 18:21:57 [deadchip]
- although maybe it's better not to joke on people who are new heh
- 18:22:07 [Muz]
- catgroove, some, a label called Mute or something
- 18:22:13 [deadchip]
- Mute Records!
- 18:22:15 [catgroove]
- Kerensky, give me a pageyo uedited, and i'll edit it, and thenyo can check that mailaccoutn and see if there isn't a mail
- 18:22:40 [catgroove]
- deadchip: yepp, not good with new, cool muz! what are some albums?
- 18:22:51 [Muz]
- Far too many for my to type out
- 18:22:55 [catgroove]
- gimme one
- 18:23:09 [Muz]
- Depeche Mode's stuff
- 18:23:16 [deadchip]
- yeah and Nick Cave
- 18:23:16 [catgroove]
- hmm depeche mode
- 18:23:28 [catgroove]
- really? nick cave?
- 18:23:28 [deadchip]
- and einstuerzende neubauten
- 18:23:33 [deadchip]
- catgroove: yeah :)
- 18:23:44 [catgroove]
- but you uaren't muz, so how do you know?
- 18:23:52 [catgroove]
- I sorta saked him, yanno? :P
- 18:23:55 [catgroove]
- asked even
- 18:24:00 [deadchip]
- well cause um... i haev Nick Cave recorsds and i knew the'yre from Mute
- 18:24:03 [Muz]
- They're a famous label
- 18:24:09 [catgroove]
- oh
- 18:24:10 [deadchip]
- catgroove: hmm?
- 18:24:22 [catgroove]
- Muz: recomend me something!
- 18:24:25 [catgroove]
- :DDD
- 18:24:25 [deadchip]
- so wait before i say something wrong later on i'll rather say it now
- 18:24:39 [catgroove]
- deadchip: what?
- 18:24:39 [deadchip]
- is it like i'm not allowed to answer to something unless i am _personally_ being asked?
- 18:24:48 [catgroove]
- oh god not this again
- 18:24:54 [catgroove]
- look I'm not isnulting you uaor anything
- 18:25:02 [deadchip]
- catgroove: well you just insisted i don't answer because you asked Muz
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- 18:25:17 [deadchip]
- catgroove: oh yeah ermm maybe not "insulting" but so far this has been an open discussion as far as i'm concerned
- 18:25:27 [deadchip]
- so please don't tell me stuff like "yano i asked Muz"
- 18:25:35 [deadchip]
- when i just throw in that Nick cave is also on Mute
- 18:25:37 [catgroove]
- look, it's not you, its me, I don't like it when I ask someone something and then someone answers, its ME not you, ok?
- 18:25:38 [Muz]
- * Muz just hides behind a moose
- 18:25:53 [catgroove]
- someone else*
- 18:25:53 [deadchip]
- catgroove: allright but then don't tell me i should stop but get a hang of yourself
- 18:26:01 [catgroove]
- I didn't tell you uto stop
- 18:26:05 [deadchip]
- like how should i take this other than to shut up
- 18:26:07 [deadchip]
- allright
- 18:26:07 [catgroove]
- you'rereadign way to much into this
- 18:26:08 [catgroove]
- please
- 18:26:23 [catgroove]
- I DIDN'T say shut up
- 18:26:32 [deadchip]
- yeah well allright i'll just keep acting like i think it makes sense
- 18:26:37 [Muz]
- jonty, 4522713
- 18:26:39 [deadchip]
- catgroove: no but it was arguably interpretable as that
- 18:26:51 [Muz]
- Wrong channel...
- 18:26:51 [deadchip]
- "youknow i've asked Muz not you" -> "well i don't want to hear replies from you on that"
- 18:27:01 [deadchip]
- but whatever you say
- 18:27:08 [deadchip]
- i'll just keep acting like everything is normal
- 18:27:08 [deadchip]
- lol
- 18:27:47 [catgroove]
- I DIDN'T SAY SHUT UP
- 18:27:48 [catgroove]
- OMG
- 18:27:58 [deadchip]
- allright i'm sorry i've offended you
- 18:28:29 [catgroove]
- and you're putting words I never said in my mouth. I NEVER said "well i don't want to hear replies from you on that"
- 18:28:39 [catgroove]
- so PLEASE do not use quotations marks on stuff I NERVER said
- 18:28:41 [catgroove]
- thank you
- 18:31:58 [deadchip]
- sure
- 18:32:45 [deadchip]
- i guess the safest way to not offend you is to be either close pubfriend with yours or not to talk to you at all (and i'm serious right now; so i rather i think, not for me but just so i won't offend you, maybe slight sarcasm in here, but not really that much, just avoid discussions with you)
- 18:33:23 [catgroove]
- a: I don't go to pubs.
- 18:33:33 [deadchip]
- jeez i throw in "Nick Cave" and you tell me you didn't ask me
- 18:33:46 [ruaok]
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- 18:33:47 [catgroove]
- b) IU never told you to shut up
- 18:33:56 [catgroove]
- chb: PLEASE stop overreacting
- 18:34:03 [catgroove]
- c even not chb
- 18:34:08 [deadchip]
- catgroove: ok then, as a last thing can you explain what you meant to "express" by saying that you didn't ask be but Muz?
- 18:34:14 [deadchip]
- how can i just "not see" something like that being said?
- 18:34:17 [catgroove]
- I didn't say that omg
- 18:34:20 [deadchip]
- i'm not blind you know
- 18:34:33 [deadchip]
- <catgroove> but you uaren't muz, so how do you know?
- 18:34:33 [deadchip]
- <catgroove> I sorta saked him, yanno? :P
- 18:34:34 [catgroove]
- no you're not, you are so paranoid that you seethigns that aren't there
- 18:34:37 [deadchip]
- was that a joke or so
- 18:34:41 [ruaok]
- * ruaok wonders what he walked into
- 18:34:45 [catgroove]
- it was a CASUAL COMENT
- 18:34:45 [deadchip]
- liek "how can you know since you're not Muz"?
- 18:34:47 [catgroove]
- you uknow?!
- 18:34:48 [deadchip]
- allright
- 18:34:48 [deadchip]
- yeah
- 18:34:49 [deadchip]
- i know
- 18:34:50 [catgroove]
- conversation?!
- 18:34:51 [deadchip]
- ok
- 18:34:54 [catgroove]
- jesus
- 18:34:54 [deadchip]
- conversation
- 18:34:57 [deadchip]
- sweet one too
- 18:35:18 [catgroove]
- ruaok: insanity :P
- 18:35:18 [deadchip]
- omg ok i go away
- 18:35:22 [deadchip]
- lol
- 18:35:38 [ruaok]
- apparently. be nice, kids!
- 18:35:38 [deadchip]
- ruaok: it's called #musicbrainz
- 18:35:43 [catgroove]
- deadchip: notice the ":P" that means 'I'm joking here, I mean no harm
- 18:35:52 [deadchip]
- catgroove: yeah i'm sorry
- 18:35:57 [deadchip]
- really
- 18:36:04 [catgroove]
- please stop asuming that I'm a troll and I want to hurt your feelings all lthetime
- 18:36:12 [catgroove]
- than k you, I apologise to
- 18:36:14 [deadchip]
- ok ok. ok
- 18:36:34 [catgroove]
- hi ruaok: how areyou today?
- 18:36:39 [catgroove]
- RUAOK?
- 18:36:41 [catgroove]
- :PP
- 18:36:43 [deadchip]
- LOL
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- 18:36:57 [ruaok]
- feeling better. slept a decent amount. time to get back to work.
- 18:37:04 [catgroove]
- yay sleep
- 18:37:09 [catgroove]
- happy hacking!
- 18:37:15 [chb]
- what? - oh :-)
- 18:38:12 [ruaok]
- I wish I was going to be hacking. business foo for the next couple of days for me.
- 18:38:20 [ruaok]
- I'll be fixing bugs over the weekend.
- 18:38:25 [catgroove]
- aww :(
- 18:38:29 [catgroove]
- but yay bugs
- 18:38:55 [catgroove]
- :ö: -> =õ= <- squished bug
- 18:39:02 [catgroove]
- hmm
- 18:39:06 [deadchip]
- lol
- 18:39:07 [catgroove]
- :ö: -> =Ö= <- squished bug
- 18:39:11 [chb]
- hehe
- 18:39:18 [catgroove]
- who did that first
- 18:39:25 [catgroove]
- it was either praest76 or FauxFaux
- 18:39:33 [catgroove]
- or someone with a snarky sense of humour :D
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- 18:40:06 [deadchip]
- heh
- 18:41:44 [chancey_]
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- chancey_ is now known as chancey
- 18:42:07 [catgroove]
- hi chancey
- 18:42:21 [catgroove]
- are you named after the pokémon or just something random?
- 18:43:03 [eleusis]
- what's the difference? :P
- 18:43:58 [catgroove]
- ehm, one thing is a pokémon and the other isn't ?
- 18:44:06 [eleusis]
- ;)
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- 19:08:02 [tru]
- luks: picard-qt seems to scale lot better the old one. it's actually possible to add my whole collection at once. great work :-)
- 19:08:34 [luks]
- nope, is still sucks :)
- 19:08:56 [luks]
- i can add about 3000 files and then it's starting to be unresponsive
- 19:09:25 [tru]
- yeah, but that's still better then the old one :-)
- 19:09:31 [tru]
- it works great on osx also btw.
- 19:11:03 [warp]
- * warp should try that.
- 19:11:27 [luks]
- i need to rework the threading code one more time
- 19:11:31 [luks]
- i haven't used threads that much in a gui app before, so i'm still just experimenting
- 19:22:05 [ruaok]
- so... I'm catching up on reading my email.
- 19:22:11 [catgroove]
- hi ru
- 19:22:28 [ruaok]
- there is one email about some poker company wanting to donate $500 in order to get a link from the metabrainz site.
- 19:22:39 [catgroove]
- hmmm
- 19:22:39 [ruaok]
- I like $500. I do.
- 19:22:45 [catgroove]
- but
- 19:22:58 [ruaok]
- But why in hell should we add a link to a totally unrelated poker site?
- 19:23:04 [catgroove]
- exactly
- 19:23:08 [ruaok]
- anyone have any thoughts on this?
- 19:23:11 [catgroove]
- that's just an add
- 19:23:15 [catgroove]
- sponsorship
- 19:23:40 [catgroove]
- if they had anything todo with music or databases...
- 19:23:48 [catgroove]
- but poker.. ack. no
- 19:23:57 [Sheffield[85]]
- :)
- 19:24:10 [ruaok]
- ya, those are my thoughts too.
- 19:24:16 [catgroove]
- i thought so
- 19:24:17 [ruaok]
- anyone else have any thoughts?
- 19:24:30 [warp]
- for $500 i don't mind linking them from my homepage ;)
- 19:25:11 [ruaok]
- want me to forward the mail to you, warp?
- 19:25:16 [Sheffield[85]]
- you can take $500
- 19:25:20 [warp]
- haha, no thanks. i doubt they'd be interested.
- 19:25:27 [Sheffield[85]]
- and after 1 month
- 19:25:32 [Sheffield[85]]
- remove banner
- 19:25:37 [luks]
- I personally wouldn't have problem with such link on MB
- 19:25:40 [catgroove]
- ruaok: it'd be like 'selling our soul'
- 19:25:46 [catgroove]
- imho
- 19:25:50 [ruaok]
- its not even MB.
- 19:25:58 [ruaok]
- its the outdated sponsors page on meb.org
- 19:25:58 [catgroove]
- MeB
- 19:26:02 [luks]
- ah
- 19:26:16 [ruaok]
- but still, its erm, not quite on topic.
- 19:26:17 [warp]
- hah
- 19:26:37 [ruaok]
- Then again, we could put up a message that says:
- 19:26:45 [catgroove]
- they're just desperate to to get some airtime links etc
- 19:26:59 [ruaok]
- "we're not sure how to feel about this ,but we got $500 for this lousy link:"
- 19:27:12 [catgroove]
- they're probably looking into oany sort of org. that has any 'sponsor' type page and comign to them with offers
- 19:27:13 [warp]
- ruaok: in that case you're better of just not doing it.
- 19:27:51 [warp]
- * warp wanders off again looking for some food
- 19:27:58 [catgroove]
- mm food
- 19:28:03 [catgroove]
- * catgroove has food for a change
- 19:28:18 [catgroove]
- tomatosoup
- 19:29:14 [ruaok]
- heh, that page got 4731 hits in October.
- 19:29:21 [ruaok]
- sounds like a BAD deal to me.
- 19:29:28 [catgroove]
- ja jøss
- 19:29:33 [luks]
- wow, what a long RFE - http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/2296
- 19:29:36 [catgroove]
- for them, yea
- 19:30:19 [ruaok]
- anyways, on this poker thing....
- 19:30:32 [ruaok]
- should I: post a blog entry and ask more people OR just drop it?
- 19:30:36 [mudcrow]
- say yes -only if they up the offer to $5000 :)
- 19:30:54 [catgroove]
- they probably think that by putting their link there peoplewould be fooled to go to them because 'a legit place like meb.org/mb.org links there, its obviously high cvality etc'
- 19:31:00 [ruaok]
- $1+ per hit. wow.
- 19:32:00 [Sheffield[85]]
- can we look at this link?
- 19:32:01 [catgroove]
- hmm disco
- 19:32:04 [catgroove]
- * catgroove ♪ ABBA - Knowing Me, Knowing You (last.fm) (0:0-1) ♪
- 19:32:15 [catgroove]
- * catgroove giggles
- 19:32:27 [catgroove]
- * catgroove pokes muz with a pm
- 19:32:34 [ruaok]
- Sheffield[85]: http://www.pokersourceonline.com
- 19:32:55 [luks]
- well, now they have a link for free :)
- 19:32:56 [Sheffield[85]]
- shit =)
- 19:33:03 [catgroove]
- erh, ops
- 19:33:03 [Sheffield[85]]
- :-D
- 19:33:04 [luks]
- on chatlogs
- 19:33:07 [catgroove]
- ja
- 19:33:11 [catgroove]
- ru can del it thought
- 19:33:21 [ruaok]
- * ruaok chuckles
- 19:33:25 [Sheffield[85]]
- ops
- 19:33:30 [Sheffield[85]]
- sorry
- 19:33:42 [Sheffield[85]]
- chatlog must be without this words?
- 19:33:58 [catgroove]
- we should a rememberd to turn mblogger of
- 19:34:35 [Sheffield[85]]
- ok.
- 19:36:49 [Sheffield[85]]
- music ip is music recognition system?
- 19:37:11 [Sheffield[85]]
- taggers can work on this technology?
- 19:38:01 [ruaok]
- picard uses the music ip acoustic fingerprinting
- 19:38:44 [Sheffield[85]]
- this can distinguish one remix from another?
- 19:38:51 [catgroove]
- Muz: where is the page where the most recent added albums are?
- 19:38:57 [catgroove]
- there was a pge with that info
- 19:40:18 [Sheffield[85]]
- hm. acoustic fingerprinting... but mp3 can be 24kbps or 64kbps, or 320kbps.... of it can be ogg vorbis with different psychoacoustical model... how can it work?
- 19:41:32 [ruaok]
- Sheffield[85]: its mostly black magic and sacraficed rubber chickens.
- 19:41:38 [ruaok]
- but it works.
- 19:41:55 [Sheffield[85]]
- :-D
- 19:42:00 [ruaok]
- * ruaok recently met the guy behind all the crazy algorithms at MusicIP.
- 19:42:06 [luks]
- nice name for math :)
- 19:42:23 [Sheffield[85]]
- i just cant imagine how it can work
- 19:42:27 [Sheffield[85]]
- brr)
- 19:42:34 [ruaok]
- well, any algorithm I can't "kick" is black magic, IMHO.
- 19:42:50 [Sheffield[85]]
- some type of hash
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- 19:42:57 [catgroove]
- or hasj
- 19:43:00 [catgroove]
- :P
- 19:43:01 [mudcrow]
- believ mee it does work, very well. I can't fault musicip
- 19:43:04 [ruaok]
- LOL
- 19:43:04 [catgroove]
- * catgroove is n a silly mood
- 19:43:06 [chancey]
- *yawns* i just got up, its just a nickname, becuase my last name is Chance
- 19:43:12 [catgroove]
- wow cool
- 19:43:25 [catgroove]
- I saw your friend thingy on last.fm btw
- 19:43:27 [Sheffield[85]]
- mudcrow > cooool)
- 19:43:31 [catgroove]
- I accepeted it, of course :)
- 19:43:51 [Sheffield[85]]
- mudcrow - even with different BPM ?
- 19:44:06 [ruaok]
- Sheffield[85]: the TRM stuff, which I know the most of, extracts 500 some data points for a 30 second clip of audio.
- 19:44:10 [Sheffield[85]]
- when i rip from vinyl...
- 19:44:16 [ruaok]
- those get sent to the server.
- 19:44:24 [mudcrow]
- It has never wrongly identified one of my files
- 19:44:24 [ruaok]
- which does a dimensionality reduction.
- 19:44:50 [Sheffield[85]]
- hm
- 19:44:51 [ruaok]
- and then maps the reduced data points into a multi-dimensional lookup system.
- 19:45:01 [Sheffield[85]]
- so if i use equalizer... it will be different track
- 19:45:04 [ruaok]
- i.e. black magic.
- 19:45:11 [Sheffield[85]]
- but if i crop it....
- 19:45:11 [deadchip]
- Sheffield[85]: not neccessarily
- 19:45:12 [ruaok]
- Sheffield[85]: no.
- 19:45:16 [Sheffield[85]]
- it will be the same track
- 19:45:18 [catgroove]
- don't crop it
- 19:45:26 [deadchip]
- musicip uses DFT analysis etc, it's i think more reliable than TRM
- 19:45:26 [ruaok]
- if you crop it, perhaps. depends on how much you crop.
- 19:45:30 [deadchip]
- well it actually proven is
- 19:45:50 [ruaok]
- deadchip: how is DFT better than wavelets in this case?
- 19:45:52 [deadchip]
- there are too many collisions both ways with TRM
- 19:45:53 [catgroove]
- puids are definitly better than trm
- 19:45:56 [Sheffield[85]]
- oh two algorithms! wow) not one
- 19:46:00 [deadchip]
- ruaok: hum
- 19:46:06 [deadchip]
- ruaok: i don't actually know how _trm_ works
- 19:46:08 [deadchip]
- heh
- 19:46:23 [deadchip]
- so i can't compare it on that level, just that there are fewer collisions using PUID
- 19:46:40 [deadchip]
- thus i, let's say assumed, it's "better"
- 19:46:51 [ruaok]
- I wont deny that.
- 19:47:00 [Sheffield[85]]
- deadchip > DFT=puids=better?
- 19:47:04 [catgroove]
- * catgroove tries the 'labels' page
- 19:47:05 [ruaok]
- I would just have to argue with the "better because it uses DFT".
- 19:47:09 [catgroove]
- its hard to find this page
- 19:47:25 [catgroove]
- arg where is it?"
- 19:47:41 [deadchip]
- Sheffield[85]: ell i don't know the math or whatever is know about it behind TRM but with TRM you have a lot of collisions of the sort of multiple TRM IDs for the same song and i think (?) also identical TRM IDs for different songs
- 19:47:52 [Sheffield[85]]
- hm. very interesting technology... the principle of the work is not shared?
- 19:47:59 [deadchip]
- ruaok: hmm ok well i don't know TRM at all sorry lol
- 19:48:10 [deadchip]
- i didn't want to make spurious claims
- 19:48:11 [ruaok]
- :-)
- 19:48:18 [ruaok]
- no worries.
- 19:48:33 [deadchip]
- :)
- 19:48:36 [deadchip]
- Sheffield[85]: nope
- 19:48:40 [deadchip]
- Sheffield[85]: well you can get libofa
- 19:48:49 [deadchip]
- but what it does in itself is not outrageously spectacular
- 19:48:53 [Sheffield[85]]
- this is open source?
- 19:49:04 [deadchip]
- well it's open source but i'm not sure if it's "free software" *ahem*
- 19:49:12 [deadchip]
- lol
- 19:49:12 [luks]
- only the client-server side
- 19:49:16 [Sheffield[85]]
- oh i see
- 19:49:26 [luks]
- oops
- 19:49:31 [deadchip]
- Sheffield[85]: but you can download the source and compile it and read it
- 19:49:34 [luks]
- what that hell did i types
- 19:49:37 [deadchip]
- lol luks
- 19:49:40 [luks]
- "only the client-side"
- 19:49:46 [luks]
- *typed
- 19:49:56 [luks]
- bah, i need a break
- 19:50:08 [deadchip]
- kit kats
- 19:50:23 [catgroove]
- pet a cat!
- 19:50:26 [deadchip]
- :>
- 19:50:26 [catgroove]
- or a MOOSE
- 19:50:35 [deadchip]
- petting cats with mooses
- 19:50:39 [catgroove]
- * catgroove tries forgjeves to get muz' attention
- 19:50:44 [Sheffield[85]]
- this technology can make revolution in tagging of big audio collections)
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- 19:51:20 [deadchip]
- yeah
- 19:51:30 [deadchip]
- luks is writing picard-qt whiich does a lot of automatic stuff
- 19:51:31 [ruaok]
- Sheffield[85]: yep, that's what we've been working on. :)
- 19:51:49 [chancey]
- i cant wait for qt, it looks awsome
- 19:51:57 [catgroove]
- me to
- 19:51:59 [deadchip]
- i'm writing BMP which uses it too and makes retagging of entire albums and sets of albums using MB and optionally ofa fingerprinting + musicip + mb quite easy
- 19:52:00 [catgroove]
- anna try it
- 19:52:09 [deadchip]
- yeah i want to try it too
- 19:52:18 [deadchip]
- we want the source!
- 19:52:37 [deadchip]
- well or binaries for that matter but just to try it out
- 19:52:50 [luks]
- nothing is stopping you from downloading it :)
- 19:52:50 [chancey]
- i sort of tried the source on windows, couldnt get it working
- 19:53:57 [chancey]
- im concerntrating my efforts on MB_MySQL, the new version is ridiculously fast
- 19:54:32 [deadchip]
- ah it's already up
- 19:54:32 [deadchip]
- hmm
- 19:54:39 [deadchip]
- luks: i didn't figure
- 19:54:43 [deadchip]
- * deadchip chex
- 19:55:12 [luks]
- it's not really production ready, but the sources are available
- 19:55:27 [deadchip]
- hmm ok
- 19:55:55 [catgroove]
- but helo, mute records are a huge thing
- 19:55:57 [catgroove]
- that's cool
- 19:56:30 [deadchip]
- yeah
- 19:56:38 [catgroove]
- how cool of them
- 19:56:40 [deadchip]
- mute records is old ass stuff since 1975 or so
- 19:56:43 [catgroove]
- they obviously *got it*
- 19:56:52 [catgroove]
- hah 75 = 'old'
- 19:57:00 [deadchip]
- lol
- 19:57:03 [deadchip]
- * deadchip checks that too
- 19:57:05 [catgroove]
- 75 ain't old
- 19:57:17 [ruaok]
- * ruaok remembers 75
- 19:57:22 [catgroove]
- dood I was born 6 years after that
- 19:57:29 [catgroove]
- : 8 )
- 19:57:38 [deadchip]
- Mute Records is a record label formed in 1978
- 19:57:39 [deadchip]
- 1978
- 19:57:39 [catgroove]
- ruaok is OLD! :P
- 19:57:40 [deadchip]
- hah
- 19:57:45 [deadchip]
- it's 1 year younger than me
- 19:57:46 [catgroove]
- hmp
- 19:57:51 [catgroove]
- its uhm
- 19:57:52 [chancey]
- i was born 14 years after that
- 19:58:06 [deadchip]
- lol chancey
- 19:58:09 [catgroove]
- faen, what is 1981 - 1978
- 19:58:12 [deadchip]
- well i am pretty old
- 19:58:16 [deadchip]
- * deadchip ages
- 19:58:21 [deadchip]
- now i'm even older
- 19:58:25 [deadchip]
- oh how can i just stop this
- 19:58:34 [deadchip]
- see i'm even older now again
- 19:58:37 [catgroove]
- * catgroove wished brainzbot was here
- 19:59:04 [mudcrow]
- what wrong with Mute? I like Mute records
- 19:59:12 [catgroove]
- you misunderstand me
- 19:59:20 [deadchip]
- hahahaha
- 19:59:21 [catgroove]
- I am impressed
- 19:59:29 [catgroove]
- they sent all their backlog to last.fm
- 19:59:59 [mudcrow]
- they can it it all to me if they want.
- 20:00:02 [catgroove]
- they obisusly *get* that streamign music online is *not* the way to lose
- 20:00:03 [mudcrow]
- *send
- 20:00:11 [catgroove]
- they're cool
- 20:00:32 [catgroove]
- haha
- 20:00:34 [catgroove]
- * catgroove ♪ Frank Zappa - Dancin' Fool (last.fm) (0:0-1) ♪
- 20:02:33 [mudcrow]
- bugger. spot the mistake http://www.discogs.com/subs/view/2436849
- 20:05:27 [catgroove]
- erhg its the wrong one?
- 20:05:32 [catgroove]
- but it was accepted
- 20:05:34 [catgroove]
- wtf
- 20:05:35 [catgroove]
- o_O
- 20:07:05 [mudcrow]
- yeah, Arthur Daley by The Firm is obviously not the cover to Gary Glitter I'm the leader of the gang. shows how much attention I was paying to what i was doing.
- 20:07:37 [mudcrow]
- and an Editor voted it through. ouch
- 20:09:00 [Cadalach]
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- 20:09:09 [chancey]
- well, i have to go now, bye everone
- 20:09:34 [chancey]
- chancey has quit
- 20:10:24 [deadchip]
- * deadchip has a way too intrusive now-playing script
- 20:11:39 [mustaqila_]
- * mustaqila_ mooses in
- 20:11:41 [deadchip]
- like this:
- 20:11:45 [deadchip]
- as a 1-timer
- 20:11:59 [deadchip]
- * deadchip is now playing ::[ mderezynski's Neighbour Radio (Last.fm) | Mylo - Transporter 2 - Paris Four Hundred | 00:00 | 0kbps | 0.0KHz ]::
- 20:12:26 [deadchip]
- which is actually.. my.. neigbour radio lol
- 20:12:30 [luks]
- no colors?
- 20:12:35 [catgroove]
- lol
- 20:12:36 [deadchip]
- umm adjustable colors
- 20:12:38 [catgroove]
- HI MUS!
- 20:12:41 [deadchip]
- someone else wrote it
- 20:12:43 [deadchip]
- let's see
- 20:12:43 [catgroove]
- s/s/z
- 20:12:46 [catgroove]
- hmm
- 20:12:48 [mustaqila_]
- Hey mo
- 20:12:48 [catgroove]
- * catgroove ♪ Testament - Hail Mary (last.fm) (0:0-1) ♪
- 20:12:59 [deadchip]
- * deadchip is now playing ::[ mderezynski's Neighbour Radio (Last.fm) | Mylo - Transporter 2 - Paris Four Hundred | 00:00 | 0kbps | 0.0KHz ]::
- 20:13:00 [catgroove]
- * catgroove pokes muz with the pm
- 20:13:04 [mustaqila_]
- Huh?
- 20:13:10 [catgroove]
- deadchip: one timer, ja?
- 20:13:14 [catgroove]
- ja
- 20:13:18 [deadchip]
- catgroove: luks asked for colors :P
- 20:13:20 [catgroove]
- its muz, not mustaquil, hang omn
- 20:13:21 [mustaqila_]
- Unless you mean my work machine which I've not been at for 2 hours or something
- 20:13:25 [catgroove]
- there'a no colours
- 20:13:32 [deadchip]
- you ain't seeing them
- 20:13:36 [luks]
- nope
- 20:13:52 [Sheffield[85]]
- hm... discogs have track numering in different formats
- 20:13:55 [Sheffield[85]]
- 1 2 3 4
- 20:13:59 [deadchip]
- well i'll leave it be with this script
- 20:14:01 [Sheffield[85]]
- or A1 A2 B2
- 20:14:10 [Sheffield[85]]
- if this vinyl
- 20:14:23 [Sheffield[85]]
- but mb have only 123... format?
- 20:14:33 [deadchip]
- you meant it is not meant to have color
- 20:15:08 [deadchip]
- well anyway those scripts are just funny when accepted otherwise they make only yourself and others queezy
- 20:15:14 [deadchip]
- s/just/only
- 20:15:25 [catgroove]
- discogs is crap, the people there as completely crazy, they fai lan album for the fact that there might be some caps wrong, but approve an ediot that was wrong. obviously they aren't really payign attention
- 20:15:27 [catgroove]
- :(
- 20:15:41 [catgroove]
- deadchip: yepp
- 20:16:37 [catgroove]
- * catgroove falls down laughing
- 20:16:58 [catgroove]
- i have the muz torture song on
- 20:17:23 [Sheffield[85]]
- maybe.. but A1 A2 A3 track numbering if this vinyl release is not spare info and discogs have it )
- 20:17:37 [Sheffield[85]]
- :-P
- 20:18:09 [catgroove]
- nifty and erranous < correct but lacking in nifty
- 20:18:59 [catgroove]
- besides, it isn't unthinkable that we'll be getting that ability for vinyl
- 20:19:11 [catgroove]
- /casette
- 20:20:02 [mudcrow]
- The A1 A2 works well with simple releases. but gets very complicated if more than one disc is involved and tracks have sub-tracks.
- 20:20:12 [mudcrow]
- or mixes
- 20:21:20 [Sheffield[85]]
- a1 b1 - first vinyl, c1 d1 - second vinyl, e1 f1... :-D
- 20:21:25 [Sheffield[85]]
- *crazy*
- 20:21:38 [Sheffield[85]]
- ok i understand
- 20:22:04 [mudcrow]
- http://www.discogs.com/release/845250 like that - gave me a headache. sides are labeled A & A1 - which would make track 1 A1A1 or something like that
- 20:26:25 [Sheffield[85]]
- yes.. just i did not saw such releases on discogs before.. you're right
- 20:27:01 [catgroove]
- discogs have some great ideas.. but the implementationof them is way too complicated
- 20:27:15 [catgroove]
- is usually*
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- 20:28:45 [catgroove]
- I dig the new taggign system on last.fm
- 20:29:34 [catgroove]
- heh franz ferdinan
- 20:29:46 [catgroove]
- just hadabout WWI in school
- 20:30:49 [catgroove]
- imagine my suprise when I learned abotu this 'austeriche-ungarn' prince that was shot, called 'Franz Ferdinand'
- 20:31:12 [catgroove]
- I was like 'oh ey, I know that name!'
- 20:31:28 [catgroove]
- funky place to get a name from
- 20:31:32 [catgroove]
- its a funky name too
- 20:32:36 [Sheffield[85]]
- taggign system on last.fm?
- 20:32:42 [Sheffield[85]]
- where it is?
- 20:33:26 [Sheffield[85]]
- you mean system that make recognition of untagged files, that users listening to?
- 20:33:50 [Sheffield[85]]
- catgroove
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