IRC log of musicbrainz on 2007-03-26

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fat like a pound of cheeba weed brownies
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topic is: http://musicbrainz.org | New!! http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/CollaborationOfTheMonth/DireStraits !! | Forums! http://forums.musicbrainz.org/ | New Picard rewritten with Qt http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/PicardQt (Version: Alpha 5)
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Users on #musicbrainz: MBChatLogger tru warp dwg juhae srotta FauxFaux canidae Jooon det hundfred BrianG Chise|Solid nightgroove Jugdish `Spike yoasif intgr Knio ruaok rpedro__ Synchro Rondom HairMetalAddict Muz__ GE-Cloppeh stochasticism MrQwerty` trotek UserErr0r Shrike Kanmu Clint timo- tro
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Hi all. As you surely noticed, we just had a largish split. A sponsor had a route flap which took a part of freenode from the net. Sorry for the inconvenience and thank you for flying freenode air!
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12:49:12 [nightgroove]
Jugdish: NOPE it's not :D
12:49:45 [nightgroove]
please please PLEASE do not merge releases with slightly differenciating tracklists
12:50:12 [nightgroove]
you probably shouldn't merge thoseanyway, as they me different contry's relieases
12:50:17 [nightgroove]
country
12:50:30 [nightgroove]
releases, sheesh
12:51:22 [nightgroove]
differenciating (sp?)
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!spelling differenciating
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!cmds
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nightgroove: You may use the following commands:
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damn you
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!cmds
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Aankhen: You may use the following commands:
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!cmds
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it' knows I'm not him
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12:59:04 [Muz]
That bot is so useless :/
13:04:27 [catgroove]
I hate amazon'
13:04:47 [catgroove]
they just sent me spam. to my new email. that I have NEWER USED on amazon
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that email is accociated with opera browser, and it crached the browser
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13:26:30 [catgroove]
http://www.last.fm/group/Ï€
13:27:13 [catgroove]
where do you go to make a group?
13:36:52 [catgroove]
hi Synchro!
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hey
13:37:37 [catgroove]
this is me?
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(nasasie)
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:D
13:38:17 [Synchro]
now that's information! :P
13:40:41 [catgroove]
you wanted to know who i wason last.fm :?
13:40:43 [catgroove]
:P even
13:42:14 [Synchro]
is there an officical last.fm channel
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?
13:43:23 [catgroove]
hmm.. ask muz
13:44:49 [Muz]
#last.fm on here, or #audioscrobbler on irc.audioscrobbler.com
13:45:12 [Synchro]
k thx
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irc.audioscrobbler.com = official last.fm irc server?
13:45:45 [Muz]
Yes
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kk
13:51:26 [catgroove]
lolololol #cooking has a dane and a person from netherlands in it
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so like ,fitting totally in is me
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ok, food
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bonjour
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Elger
14:35:54 [dmppanda]
"Elger"? Is that "moose" in slovakian? :-)
14:43:35 [ruaok]
* ruaok runs off to san diego
14:43:40 [ruaok]
what's up dmppanda ?
14:44:38 [dmppanda]
I was thinking about your proposition to add me as transclusion editor, and was wondering who is still actively working on the docs in the transclusioneditor list.
14:45:09 [dmppanda]
Wolfsong?
14:45:39 [KaZeR]
hi people. i'm having a weird problem with picard and classic tagger.
14:46:11 [KaZeR]
i'm running them from a vmware virtual machine. from this machine, i can connect to musicbrainz website with firefox. but neither of the taggers can connect to it..
14:46:20 [KaZeR]
i have no proxy required
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any idea?
14:46:36 [ruaok]
dmppanda: not many people, thus me asking.
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but, really I gotta go.
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mail me if you have more questions.
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sorry
14:46:50 [dmppanda]
ok. ttyl
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14:47:47 [juhae]
KaZeR: why don't you run picard (or preferrably picardqt) in a native environment?
14:48:23 [KaZeR]
because it requires some dependancies to run on my gentoo boxes, which i'd like to avoid installing..
14:49:01 [warp]
* warp would just install those in ~/
14:49:44 [KaZeR]
well, that's the kind of thing i'm not fan :)
14:49:59 [KaZeR]
my ~ is already borked with tons of craps, i try to clean it :)
14:50:29 [KaZeR]
i just noticed that firefox can reach the web on this virtual machine, but IE can't. i guess it's the key
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hehe
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KaZeR: oh, weird.
14:51:49 [KaZeR]
oh got it :) there was a proxy defined in IE. dunno where it came from.. and got no error message telling that the proxy can't be reach or whatever
14:51:55 [dmppanda]
KaZeR: you mean you installed Windows in a VMWare on your gentoo box, to run Picard? :p
14:51:56 [KaZeR]
anyway, sorry for the noise, it works now :)
14:52:06 [KaZeR]
dmppanda, not only picard :)
14:52:13 [dmppanda]
ahhh :)
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16:11:14 [Jugdish]
i'm looking on an actual disc and it says "(c)2005 Arts & Crafts. Under exclusive license to City Slang. All rights reserved. LC06853, 706.8580.2, SLANG1035808"
16:11:38 [Jugdish]
does this mean that City Slang is the label and Arts & Crafts is the distributor, or the other way around, or what?
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16:15:50 [Jooon]
how would something like this be added? http://2007.sxsw.com/blogs/plat.php/2007/02/19/don_t_miss_the_sxsw_toolbox a torrent release, 739 MP3s. it's official as in the artists all agreed, but the order? alphabetical?
16:18:33 [dmppanda]
Jugdish: doesn't look clear :) - http://www.arts-crafts.ca/bss/ and http://www.cityslang.com/release/11
16:18:44 [dmppanda]
Jugdish: the LC you have is City Slang's
16:18:51 [dmppanda]
so is the cat #
16:18:55 [Jugdish]
ok, so that must be the label...right?
16:19:18 [Jugdish]
but then how does A&C fit into it all i wonder
16:19:19 [dmppanda]
I would say, for *this* edition, mark label as City Slang
16:19:28 [dmppanda]
needs more research :-)
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k
16:19:38 [dmppanda]
Possibly*
16:19:59 [Jugdish]
do you know what the "under exlusive license to.." means?
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16:20:23 [dmppanda]
sounds to me like a lease (from A&C to City Slang) to allow them re-edit it, but really I'm not sure
16:20:59 [ojnkpjg]
it sounds like a german re-release of a canadian release
16:21:18 [ojnkpjg]
what album is it?
16:21:24 [dmppanda]
yes, looking closer at the A&C page
16:21:37 [Jugdish]
it's this guy: http://musicbrainz.org/release/4c99573c-2de7-4067-b156-f8767cecd63c.html
16:21:40 [ojnkpjg]
oh, nevermind, you pasted it there
16:21:41 [dmppanda]
Broken Social Scene
16:21:47 [dmppanda]
Look at http://www.arts-crafts.ca/bss/
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they give all release date and lease data
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US and FR release are under City Slang/Cooperative
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others are under A&C
16:22:38 [Jugdish]
aha
16:23:11 [ojnkpjg]
i have the us release, and there's no mention of city slang
16:23:23 [dmppanda]
yes, you may have the first a&c edition
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it has A&C015 as the cat# on the spine
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2005/04/10
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probably
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i think it was a pre-order
16:24:04 [dmppanda]
my bad. it's UK & FR (not US & FR) for the Cityslang release
16:24:15 [Jugdish]
ok
16:24:50 [dmppanda]
anyhow, you got all rel data there I guess. It's just written too damn small :)
16:24:59 [Jugdish]
is there a wiki page that explains the differences between labels and distributors and how to tell one from the other?
16:25:26 [ojnkpjg]
voodoo
16:25:39 [ojnkpjg]
a lot do both
16:25:40 [dmppanda]
tossing up a moose :)
16:25:58 [dmppanda]
besides the main Label page which has some general bits, we still need some good howtos and examples from sleeve scans
16:26:11 [Jugdish]
that would be very helpful
16:26:18 [dmppanda]
if feasible...
16:26:37 [Jugdish]
and good methods for finding the LC code of a label
16:26:43 [dmppanda]
google :)
16:29:00 [srotta]
Heh 8)
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Is the LC code useful?
16:29:22 [Jugdish]
what do you guys think about this idea: when you're adding a new release event, the country automatically switch to the label's country by default once you specify the label, but you can still change it to something else if need be
16:29:48 [dmppanda]
no :-)
16:30:18 [srotta]
What is the label's country? For something like EMI?
16:30:36 [dmppanda]
Country in which the company was founded. Doesn't bear much sense for Music Groups
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Or Sony BMG for that matter...
16:33:09 [dmppanda]
Jugdish: I think it's a bad idea, because the country of origin of a company is not necessarily a good indication of where a release is marketed (it *might* be). I still prefer human editor weird data than semi-automated weird data.
16:33:23 [Jugdish]
heh
16:33:58 [Jugdish]
yeah i was just thinking it might be a helpful time-saver in certain cirumstances so you wouldn't have to funnel through the long list of countries over and over
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16:35:44 [ojnkpjg]
you can always just start typing the country name once you've activated the dropdown, too
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Greetings, everyone.
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Do we have some kind of automated merge rollback system?
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question
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if http://musicbrainz.org/artist/a670e05a-cea8-4b37-bce9-d82daf1a0fa4.html is the performance name of http://musicbrainz.org/artist/f463a056-ae06-445b-bab2-449b11482bf2.html, shouldn't you the actual person's name be used in "is/was member of" ARs?
17:15:23 [Kerensky97]
I think it depends how they're credited in the group.
17:16:06 [Jugdish]
they're credited by their full name
17:16:13 [Kerensky97]
For example "The Blues Brothers" are Jake and Elwood Blues.
17:16:26 [Kerensky97]
If it's their normal name then use that.
17:16:31 [Jugdish]
k
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can i just edit the AR to change the relationship from one to the other, or is the only way to delete the AR and add a new one?
17:19:02 [Kerensky97]
I'm not sure, I've never edited from one AR to another. I think it will work.
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17:29:44 [foodmo]
re http://2007.sxsw.com/blogs/plat.php/2007/02/19/don_t_miss_the_sxsw_toolbox <- an album with (was it 786 tracks?) can be added
17:29:55 [foodmo]
i'd think that's the only thing to do
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cat
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739 tracks
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you can add releases with 100+ tracks
17:43:36 [Jugdish]
wow
17:43:40 [Jugdish]
that'll be fun to enter
17:44:38 [ojnkpjg]
if there's a track list available, the track parser will do it for you quickly
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17:51:09 [Jugdish]
it doesn't look like there's an order to that release. it's just a collection of mp3s
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++
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good evenin'
18:54:57 [Prodoc]
luks, is it possible to access a hash defined in a module from a different file without having to create a Get... function in the first module file?
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Prodoc: sorry, no idea
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You're one of those people who tries to avoid perl as well? ;-)
19:01:57 [luks]
yes :)
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lol @ ojnkpjg
19:44:36 [Jugdish]
you're scaring me
19:46:06 [ojnkpjg]
they're one of my subscribed artists
19:46:45 [Jugdish]
yeah
19:46:54 [Jugdish]
but you're voting on them like 1 second after i make the edit :P
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19:49:01 [ojnkpjg]
coincidence, i guess
19:49:08 [ojnkpjg]
i just checked edits for my subscribed arists
19:49:36 [Jugdish]
ah
19:49:41 [ojnkpjg]
either that or i'm stalking you
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O_o
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20:09:55 [dmppanda]
luks?
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yes?
20:10:35 [dmppanda]
shall I assign you the new web-server-label related tickets? or leave the assignee field blank?
20:11:29 [luks]
assign them to me
20:11:33 [dmppanda]
ok
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20:19:11 [dmppanda]
luks: editing Label comment looks broken. Is it a (known) temporary regression? (try http://test.musicbrainz.org/label/ecc966d1-1674-457e-b293-44ac81a802df.html)
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dmppanda: I wouldn't call it broken :)
20:20:52 [luks]
it's the new "data quality control"
20:20:56 [dmppanda]
:p
20:20:58 [luks]
this probably should be changed for labels
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http://test.musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=215
20:21:28 [dmppanda]
okay :-) Buying myself a new brain :)
20:22:01 [luks]
but you can add a ticket for ruaok, I'm not sure if it intentional or just a mistake
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damned hot spot
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good night guys
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21:29:46 [Prodoc]
time for a nap, goodnight all
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22:13:32 [Jugdish]
how do you insert a linebreak in a note to an edit?
22:17:32 [Kerensky97]
I don't think you can.
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hi
22:42:25 [Aankhen``]
Hiya. Drink?
22:42:35 [regagain]
:)
22:42:42 [Aankhen``]
:-)
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np: The Love Song ♪ Marilyn Manson [WavPack/1019 kbps]
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Such a sweet song.
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Good news everyone! We are holding a design contest for both pdpc.us and freenode.net including all art, designs and logos. Submit your mockups, logos, css or crayon drawings to design@freenode.net and win the secret prizes. You can submit as little as a logo or a full-fledged website. Full details can be found at http://blog.freenode.net/?p=28 and its comments, plus you can join #freenode-design - As always, thank you for using freenode and have a great d
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