IRC log of musicbrainz on 2007-04-11

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00:00:23 [cooperaa]: ruaok: do you have a mac?
00:00:31 [linpp]: is it down? can't open the site..
00:00:47 [ruaok]: 4 working macs, 2 dead ones.
00:00:52 [cooperaa]: okay
00:00:57 [cooperaa]: wow haha
00:01:00 [ruaok]: my roommate was on the mac mini design team.
00:01:07 [cooperaa]: awesome!
00:01:11 [ruaok]: hardware, not industrial.
00:01:26 [ruaok]: since he moved in we banned M$ software from the house.
00:01:39 [cooperaa]: hehe :D
00:01:51 [linpp]: will wait till morning, hope site will be availible then..
00:02:09 [ruaok]: linpp: the site is up and fine
00:02:25 [linpp]: strange, doesn't work for me..
00:02:37 [cooperaa]: works for me (PicardQt on the wiki, that is)
00:03:05 [linpp]: can you give me the direct link to download picardqt?
00:03:09 [linpp]: if it's not a problem..
00:04:00 [ruaok]: no chance of making it work without the instructions on that page.
00:04:47 [linpp]: darn :/
00:04:50 [cooperaa]: linpp I can help you out...
00:05:20 [cooperaa]: do you want me to email you the old instructions? I was going to spend some time updating them anyways, so I could use your input (are you installing on mac?)
00:05:57 [linpp]: sure (no mac, just slackware :)
00:06:06 [linpp]: linpp@ebaywhores.com
00:06:07 [cooperaa]: ah well from source then, right?
00:06:12 [linpp]: thanks
00:06:15 [linpp]: yeah, from source
00:07:48 [Muz_]: Woah
00:07:51 [Muz_]: Picardqt is AMAZING
00:07:59 [cooperaa]: Muz: I agree! :)
00:08:53 [Muz_]: Sooooo much better, cleaner, faster, nicer than the old version
00:09:04 [ruaok]: * ruaok can't wait to play with it.
00:09:36 [Muz_]: Just a few things I liked with the old version that have been removed heh
00:12:11 [Muz_]: Just, why is the (A/X) thing on the right panel after album names the wrong way round?
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00:14:12 [cooperaa]: Muz: dunno... but it's still in development, I hope that will be fixed
00:14:17 [Muz_]: Mmm
00:14:23 [cooperaa]: plus we need it to say which files do not need to be updated
00:14:40 [Muz_]: God, this is soooo much quicker
00:14:53 [cooperaa]: I thought so too, it flies through files, even on a usb drive
00:15:11 [cooperaa]: but, sometimes it really has to try hard on some files... must be really poorly tagged beforehand or something
00:15:29 [Muz_]: I'm retagging everything with this :D
00:15:41 [ruaok]: * ruaok has to run off
00:15:46 [cooperaa]: cya ru
00:15:49 [ruaok]: see y'al tomorrow!
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00:15:56 [Muz_]: It's even handling 1300 tracks in one go :D
00:16:23 [cooperaa]: :) I've done my 16000 file collection in one go with Qt! :)
00:16:44 [cooperaa]: seems to be a lot more stable than 0.7 already
00:16:44 [Muz_]: :D Submit pweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeds
00:17:58 [BrianG]: do you submit pweeeds on the chooob?
00:18:51 [linpp]: cooperaa: did you email the instructions?
00:19:02 [cooperaa]: ugh, I can't get puids working on mac :(
00:19:05 [cooperaa]: linpp: yup
00:22:24 [linpp]: ok tnx
00:22:28 [cooperaa]: np
00:26:17 [Muz_]: I'd love a "go to page" option on the right click menu, so I can go to the respective album/artist/track page on MB
00:27:17 [cooperaa]: click on it > click on Lookup
00:27:32 [Muz_]: That only moves it to the right column
00:27:33 [cooperaa]: if you've selected something in the right frame it will go directly to it
00:27:37 [cooperaa]: no
00:27:41 [Muz_]: IT's done nothing for me
00:27:49 [cooperaa]: hmm
00:28:40 [cooperaa]: I was pretty sure that's how it works
00:29:09 [cooperaa]: if you've loaded an album in the right frame, select it and hit the right lookup button and it should go straight to the album's page or at least lookup the album
00:29:23 [Muz_]: Nope, no browser activity whatsoever
00:29:55 [cooperaa]: did it open your browser when you looked something up from the left panel?
00:30:00 [Muz_]: Nope
00:30:06 [cooperaa]: oh well something's wrong then
00:30:10 [cooperaa]: it should be opening your browser
00:30:19 [cooperaa]: maybe it can't detect your browser... which OS?
00:30:23 [Muz_]: Windows
00:30:54 [cooperaa]: hm
00:31:06 [cooperaa]: kill iexplorer and firefox from taskmanager and try it again?
00:33:45 [Muz_]: I'll try that in a bit, once I'm done with this load
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02:01:51 [Muz_]: cooperaa, I found the problem
02:01:58 [Muz_]: There are 4 "lookup" buttons
02:02:02 [cooperaa]: hehe
02:02:11 [cooperaa]: yes, there are indeed!
02:02:18 [cooperaa]: I was talking about the ones on the bottom :)
02:02:24 [Muz_]: Dear god tell me that's going to change :P
02:02:43 [Muz_]: Bleh, I should be asleep
02:02:52 [Muz_]: But nooooo, I've gone and tagged in excess of 50 GB of music
02:04:26 [cooperaa]: hahaha
02:04:43 [Muz_]: It's too bloody easy to tag now :/
02:04:51 [Muz_]: I'm working my way through my massive backlog at last heh
02:07:23 [cooperaa]: I think tonight is a good night for a re-tag as well :D
02:09:59 [Muz_]: This ain't a retag, this is a backlog of things from when I could no longer be arsed over a year ago
02:11:09 [cooperaa]: ah shite, I broke Picard...
02:11:16 [cooperaa]: maybe its time for a fresh install of my OS...
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02:32:53 [Muz_]: 8000 files tagged. Back to sleep.
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05:15:39 [Jugdish]: ojnkpjg: O_o
05:15:44 [Jugdish]: what just happened?
05:18:22 [cooperaa]: ?
05:21:34 [Jugdish]: a couple of my edits got applied after only ojnkpjg voted yes for them
05:21:51 [cooperaa]: he probably just applied them?
05:22:00 [Jugdish]: oh
05:22:06 [Jugdish]: didn't know that was possible
05:22:09 [cooperaa]: I'm not sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if ojnkpjg was an autoeditor
05:22:28 [cooperaa]: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/AutoEditor
05:32:10 [BrianG]: or a pimp
05:33:52 [BrianG]: wow just to add a purevolume AR to a high data quality artist -- high quality level, reject on expiration, 4 unanimous votes to accept/reject
05:34:03 [cooperaa]: yipes...
05:34:07 [cooperaa]: paste the url, I'll vote
05:34:15 [BrianG]: http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=6680321
05:34:57 [BrianG]: but it took 0 votes to change the artist from normal to high quality
05:35:18 [cooperaa]: that's weird, isn't that changed now?
05:35:26 [cooperaa]: I can't even do that with autoeditor priv
05:35:37 [BrianG]: http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=6654959
05:35:53 [cooperaa]: a week ago?
05:35:56 [cooperaa]: ya that's been changed
05:36:04 [BrianG]: yeah
05:36:14 [BrianG]: i'm not saying it happened instantly
05:37:34 [cooperaa]: I mean, the rules have been changed for making quality edits
05:37:52 [BrianG]: oh
05:38:01 [cooperaa]: (I'm pretty sure, anyways)
05:40:12 [Jugdish]: you should only be allowed to change an artist to high if they have at least 4 subscribers :/
05:41:06 [cooperaa]: good idea
05:44:51 [BrianG]: agreed
05:47:56 [BrianG]: whats the opposite of a crescendo?
05:48:20 [cooperaa]: ermm...
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05:48:33 [cooperaa]: dammit, come on grade 1 music!
05:49:41 [BrianG]: hmm
05:49:51 [cooperaa]: nadir?
05:49:52 [cooperaa]: lol
05:50:22 [juhae]: BrianG: diminuendo
05:50:27 [cooperaa]: ah!
05:50:42 [cooperaa]: to the victor, the spoils
05:51:04 [BrianG]: hmm
05:51:13 [BrianG]: maybe i'm just trying to name the begining of a cresendo
05:51:29 [BrianG]: thanks
05:51:53 [BrianG]: this song i'm listening too, it drops out and then builds and builds
06:17:11 [catgroove]: hmm I thought that there was an artist actually called 'multiple'
06:17:16 [catgroove]: http://musicbrainz.org/artist/da8f697e-b6db-4a37-8757-7123a7a855e5.html
06:18:04 [catgroove]: anyway should probably merge into [unknown] instead
06:18:20 [cooperaa]: or... [multiple]?
06:18:31 [cooperaa]: that much is known ;)
06:18:32 [catgroove]: huh?
06:18:45 [cooperaa]: well I mean, it's not like its totally unknown, they know its multiple peformers?
06:19:21 [catgroove]: no, because if a person adds an album to 'mltiple' now it goes straight to VA as a singular artist album
06:19:25 [catgroove]: it gets completely ost
06:19:28 [catgroove]: lost*
06:19:30 [cooperaa]: oh
06:19:57 [catgroove]: while if it goes to [unknown] atleast people are subscribed to that and can coment on how it should be a VA instead
06:20:02 [catgroove]: and/or fix it
06:21:26 [SenRepus]: hi mo
06:21:32 [catgroove]: hi sen! :)
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06:39:51 [SenRepus]: anyone know how i can make ]['m show in the wiki as text in a link?
06:39:57 [SenRepus]: rather then end the link
06:40:13 [cooperaa]: put quotes around the whole link?
06:40:20 [cooperaa]: (inside the [ ]_
06:41:28 [SenRepus]: as in ["httpblah" ]['m] ?
06:41:37 [cooperaa]: ummm
06:41:43 [cooperaa]: hm nevermind...
06:42:49 [cooperaa]: ["http " \]['m]
06:42:50 [cooperaa]: ?
06:43:43 [SenRepus]: nope
06:43:51 [cooperaa]: sorry, no idea
06:43:55 [SenRepus]: what a horrible artist name
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06:48:24 [cooperaa]: anyways, off to bed... later folks
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07:21:49 [Jugdish]: mudcrow here?
07:22:01 [Jugdish]: meh
07:22:15 [Jugdish]: is this right or not? http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=6656764
07:23:26 [SenRepus]: im with mudcrow on that one
07:23:38 [SenRepus]: i expect most voters will be on his side too
07:23:54 [SenRepus]: cover information is always removed
07:23:57 [juhae]: I'll side with mudcrow there
07:24:06 [juhae]: Aye
07:24:40 [SenRepus]: use the [track is a cover of track] AR to the original
07:27:40 [srotta]: Heh.
07:28:04 [srotta]: That's one of those "Late Night" releases that I've criticised.
07:28:15 [srotta]: It's good to see that at least one is in its rightful place :P
07:31:19 [SenRepus]: is there a way to default show all releases?
07:43:02 [SenRepus]: Jugdish did you see our response?
07:43:37 [Jugdish]: just now
07:44:52 [Jugdish]: SenRepus: what about when a track has something like "(single edit)" or "(album version)" after it? how is that different from this case?
07:46:40 [SenRepus]: well single edit is version information
07:46:54 [SenRepus]: album version is extranious and to be removed, it can be saved in the annotation though
07:47:21 [SenRepus]: information that a song is a cover is not version info like those other ones
07:47:42 [SenRepus]: cover information is comprable to "Bonus Track"
07:47:53 [Jugdish]: then by that logic we should never have "(feat. ___)" in a title because it's information that can be represented by an AR
07:49:14 [SenRepus]: i agree, however, the MB community decided that to be slightly more important and to (currently) remain in the title, at times
07:49:25 [SenRepus]: if the artist's featuring role is important enough
07:49:32 [Jugdish]: :/
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07:49:43 [Jugdish]: i'm a fan of having only the title be in the title and everything else be in ARs
07:49:48 [SenRepus]: the eventual goal is to have that information in the ARs and let the user tell the tagger if they want to the feat info in the track
07:49:52 [Jugdish]: but i was trying to "conform" to what others have told me
07:52:11 [catgroove]: â™ª da da da da da da paint it, black baby â™ª â™ª â™ª
07:52:18 [SenRepus]: http://musicbrainz.org/release/6eb1a4cf-946d-462a-8808-d593ed35c8e8.html real fucking nice
07:52:45 [Jugdish]: lol
07:52:53 [catgroove]: ersj I hate whatever / fobar artists
07:53:04 [catgroove]: oh. wtf
07:53:19 [catgroove]: well first that should be [untitled]
07:53:30 [catgroove]: and second it should be BALETED
07:54:03 [SenRepus]: it is another album with no add album mod
07:54:16 [catgroove]: yes, I saw
07:54:31 [catgroove]: it's so old, it's probably not wrong to remove it
07:54:56 [catgroove]: I'll create a remove mod
07:54:59 [catgroove]: what do you think?
07:56:07 [SenRepus]: if it was in a language i knew id try to find more info on it...
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07:57:13 [catgroove]: well usually removal mods stirs reactions in people so it might be donthen
07:57:50 [catgroove]: I my self have found info on releases when someone pasted the mod to removethem in here
07:58:06 [SenRepus]: yea
07:58:11 [SenRepus]: good point
07:58:21 [SenRepus]: do you know what so many releases have lost their add mods?
07:58:27 [mudcrow]: its some kind of kids audio book with songs
07:58:31 [catgroove]: it's not that it's lost
07:58:35 [catgroove]: it's that it's *old*
07:58:36 [mudcrow]: http://www.amazon.ca/Alexander-Aufzieh-Maus-vielen-Musik/dp/3491240085/ref=sr_1_20/701-5635152-4377929?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1176278222&sr=1-20
07:59:07 [catgroove]: it has id 21632
07:59:56 [catgroove]: Ã¥ sÃ¥ deilig, the weather so nice
08:00:12 [catgroove]: it's an audio book!
08:00:17 [catgroove]: thank you mud
08:01:03 [catgroove]: the writer should be the artist, anyone else should be linked with an ar,.. that doesn't exists yet :D
08:01:30 [catgroove]: hespiel?
08:01:36 [catgroove]: hÃ¶respiel
08:01:40 [catgroove]: hÃ¸respill
08:01:52 [catgroove]: with songs and music from the other guys name
08:01:52 [catgroove]: ok
08:02:12 [catgroove]: i'm changeing thartist and putting the other guy in a composed ar
08:02:56 [catgroove]: ipes I have on ly a half an hour to vacuume before the people gets here
08:14:14 [SenRepus]: gooood night
08:14:32 [SenRepus]: its cold as shit here so im going to bed
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08:26:41 [dmppanda]: bonjour
08:27:00 [AMurderofCrows]: hi panda
08:27:05 [dmppanda]: hi mud
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09:40:57 [mudcrow]: stupid nik server thing. hi and no freso
09:41:09 [Freso]: Heh.
09:41:13 [Freso]: Alright.
09:41:35 [mudcrow]: what edit at discogs?
09:41:54 [Freso]: mudcrow: http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-users/2007-April/015747.html
09:42:19 [Freso]: mudcrow: Linked to here: http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-users/2007-April/015751.html
09:43:41 [Freso]: Anyway, I'm off for Biology now.
09:44:07 [Freso]: Just thought I'd made you sure you was aware of it.
09:44:10 [Freso]: :)
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09:45:16 [mudcrow]: I don't want to get involved in label changes at discogs. I disagree with how they handle a lot of labels. There's too many bogus labels being created and stuff credited to the wrong label
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10:02:53 [Jugdish]: mudrow: are you a discogs editor?
10:03:05 [Jugdish]: mudcrow that is
10:03:41 [mudcrow]: no, I'm a discogs moderator. Editors are different
10:04:04 [Jugdish]: oh
10:04:30 [Jugdish]: is there any way on discogs to view the edit history of something?
10:04:53 [Jugdish]: or to see who it was that made a certain edit?
10:04:55 [mudcrow]: yes, page history in the right hand menu
10:05:05 [Jugdish]: ah
10:06:33 [mudcrow]: also you can use http://www.discogs.com/history? and search for edits
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10:24:08 [Prodoc]: good afternoon
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10:30:08 [linpp]: hmm
10:30:19 [linpp]: for PicardQt i need PyQt v4, right?
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10:56:21 [kraymer]: linpp: yes i think so
10:56:51 [linpp]: ;/
10:57:06 [linpp]: can't find any slackware binaries of PyQt and Qt
10:59:41 [dholmes]: Compile them yourself? I'd figure you would be used to that sort of thing if you use Slackware ;)
10:59:49 [kraymer]: PyQt 4.1 with Qt 4.2 or newer from INSTALL
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12:33:24 [Prodoc]: !seen luks
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12:34:31 [Prodoc]: !seen my dog
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12:34:46 [BrainzBot]: Peekaboo! I found you!
12:35:03 [Prodoc]: :-)
12:35:10 [FauxFaux]: Aww, Chooooooob shows you how you last disconnected when you do that, 'tis very useful. :)
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12:36:05 [cooperaa]: hey
12:36:12 [cooperaa]: ya sorry had to reboot
12:36:21 [Prodoc]: you're being watched ;-)
12:36:26 [cooperaa]: watched?
12:36:30 [cooperaa]: :|
12:36:43 [cooperaa]: what's up?
12:37:25 [Prodoc]: nothing much, we where playing about with BrainzBot
12:37:26 [cooperaa]: I've actually got to run out to an exam, so please leave me a pm if you need me ;)
12:37:52 [Prodoc]: and you just happened to come in at the wrong time ;-)
12:38:00 [Prodoc]: good luck with your exam
12:38:05 [cooperaa]: thanks, cya
13:12:13 [dmppanda]: somebody in the room with enough japanese to translate me a few paragraphs from a wikipedia article?
13:15:27 [Jugdish]: * Jugdish can only translate katakana :P
13:16:06 [dmppanda]: * dmppanda don't know what that means :p
13:16:19 [Jugdish]: what's the link to the article?
13:16:46 [dmppanda]: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%9D%E3%83%AA%E3%83%89%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AB%E3%83%BB%E3%83%AC%E3%82%B3%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89
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13:16:58 [dmppanda]: I'm specially interestes by the lines:
13:16:59 [dmppanda]: # 1971å¹´11æœˆ ã€Œãƒãƒªãƒ‰ãƒ¼ãƒ«æ ªå¼ä¼šç¤¾ã€ã«æ”¹åã€‚
13:16:59 [dmppanda]: # 1984å¹´ å¯Œå£«é›»æ©Ÿï¼ˆã“ã®å¹´ã«ç¤¾åã‚’ã€Œå¯Œå£«é›»æ©Ÿè£½é€ ã€ã‹ã‚‰æ”¹ç§°ï¼‰ã¨ã®è³‡æœ¬é–¢ä¿‚ã‚’è§£æ¶ˆã€‚æ¥ç¸¾ä¸æŒ¯ã®åŒç³»ä¼šç¤¾ãƒ»ãƒãƒ³ãƒ‰ãƒ³ãƒ¬ã‚³ãƒ¼ãƒ‰ã‚’åˆä½µã€‚
13:16:59 [dmppanda]: # 1998å¹´ æœ¬éƒ¨ãŒãƒ¦ãƒ‹ãƒ´ã‚¡ãƒ¼ã‚µãƒ«ãƒ»ãƒŸãƒ¥ãƒ¼ã‚¸ãƒƒã‚¯ã¨çµ±åˆã—ãŸã“ã¨ã«ã‚ˆã‚Šã€æ—¥æœ¬æ”¯ç¤¾ã‚‚çµ±åˆã™ã‚‹ã€‚
13:17:12 [Jugdish]: eeeah
13:17:23 [Jugdish]: * Jugdish isn't going to be much help :P
13:17:41 [dmppanda]: I went that far: "1984 A capital relation with Fuji Electric (it is renaming from "the Fuji Electric manufacture" about a company name to this year) is canceled. The ailing affiliated company and London record are merged."
13:17:53 [dmppanda]: but that's not really english right? :p
13:18:08 [Jugdish]: was that just from a google translate or something?
13:18:14 [dmppanda]: yes ;)
13:18:42 [dmppanda]: not that bad I would say, but still not enough
13:26:04 [dmppanda]: Prodoc?
13:28:13 [dmppanda]: I need a Prodoc parser.... wtf does that means: "Add the release barcode to the release cat# and the disc barcode (if available) to the disc cat#." ? :D
13:49:18 [juhae]: hmph http://musicbrainz.org/release/1d3cf08e-c437-4e20-b8dc-2200638811fb.html vs. http://musicbrainz.org/release/336c2e19-5156-4d42-8eb0-77caf04eb1d7.html
13:49:28 [juhae]: What a mess
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13:54:59 [aCiD2]: Hi, can anyone help me come up with a nice "generic" lucene query?
13:55:26 [aCiD2]: I'm working on a DJ mix database application, and want to let uses link tracks to MusicBrainz resources, but I haven't found a nice way to do a search for the track yet
13:56:19 [aCiD2]: I have some data like "Nu-Tone - Things that lovers do", while in MusicBrainz the track is "Nu:Tone - Things That Lovers Do", and my query ("title" AND artist:"artist") doesn't match
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13:57:58 [aCiD2]: Ah, loosing the quotes seems to get it
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14:22:22 [cooperaa_]: dmppanda: lol at ProdocParser
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14:23:43 [dmppanda]: I think I finally understood - I think I got to buy myself a new brain :p
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14:38:38 [Jugdish]: any upc/ean gurus in here?
14:41:23 [dmppanda]: I can only read kataka-UPC :p
14:45:40 [Jugdish]: "Little Girl (MSTRKRFT Edition)"
14:45:49 [Jugdish]: should "edition" be capitalized like that?
14:46:20 [luks_]: no
14:47:12 [Jugdish]: k, wasn't sure because "Guess Case" wasn't noticing it
14:49:53 [dmppanda]: luks_?
14:50:02 [luks_]: yes?
14:50:04 [dmppanda]: I'm looking for the symbolic names and ids of edits (as I'll complete edit types documentation). Any pointer to a source file where I can find a complete list? Or is it in the db?
14:50:32 [dmppanda]: specially the newly added edit types
14:50:33 [luks_]: in the source code
14:50:36 [luks_]: but I'd rather remove them from the existing pages...
14:50:42 [dmppanda]: well...
14:50:45 [luks_]: it's completely useless information, IMO
14:50:47 [dmppanda]: sure they are not really helpful
14:50:49 [dmppanda]: ok
14:50:51 [dmppanda]: agreed
14:51:25 [dmppanda]: while you are here :p I don't think I recieve mails for my subscribed labels. Is it a known problem?
14:51:32 [luks_]: yes
14:51:47 [dmppanda]: kay
14:53:07 [Jugdish]: luks_: how are track times calculated when more than one DiscID is attached? is it just a simple averaging?
14:53:39 [luks_]: the track titles are calculated only when the first disc is added and the track titles are all ?:??
14:54:31 [Jugdish]: so if the track times were manually entered by someone and then later a DiscID is attached, the DiscID doesn't alter the manually-entered times?
14:55:12 [luks_]: right
14:56:00 [Jugdish]: ok, good to know
14:56:35 [luks_]: uhh
14:56:42 [Jugdish]: i'm curious then...why are the track times locked down when you go to edit a release with a DiscID?
14:56:50 [luks_]: I just noticed what I wrote above, I really need to take a nap :)
14:57:07 [luks_]: Jugdish: no idea, to be honest
14:57:17 [luks_]: I guess only for some historical reasons
14:57:39 [luks_]: when I implemented track time editing, people wanted it that way
14:57:47 [Jugdish]: hmm, perhaps i'll query ruaok about that when he comes on ;)
15:08:58 [ojnkpjg]: why would you want to edit track times for an entry with a discid?
15:09:12 [ojnkpjg]: i think the presumption is that the discid contains the best data for the track times
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15:28:42 [Jugdi5h]: ojnkpjg: the point of confusion for me is why a DiscID would lock down the track times if the DiscID isn't necessarily the thing that created the track times in the first place
15:29:19 [murdos]: luks_?
15:29:23 [luks_]: yes_
15:29:24 [luks_]: ?
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15:30:09 [murdos]: doing some bug triaging...: could you confirm ticket 795 is duplicated/related to #884 ?
15:30:42 [murdos]: direct links: http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/795
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15:31:34 [murdos]: salut olivier ;)
15:31:40 [luks]: not exactly a duplicate, but fixing #884 will most likely include also #795
15:32:12 [murdos]: luks: ok, so I could a note in each tickets?
15:32:23 [luks]: yes please
15:32:29 [luks]: but don't close the other one
15:32:55 [dmppanda]: murdos: the problem I describe about not being mails edits on labels is for edits that *are* attached to a label (merges, etc).
15:33:19 [murdos]: ok. trac really lack a 'depends of' relation between tickets ;-)
15:33:33 [luks]: dmppanda: there not really attached
15:33:48 [luks]: it's the same situation as with tracks or releases
15:33:57 [luks]: err, *they are
15:34:14 [dmppanda]: aaaah... so you mean even and edit label edit is not "attached" to labels at all?
15:34:32 [dmppanda]: so subscriptions are almost useless right now, right?
15:34:42 [luks]: the moderation tables have only one field for artist
15:34:55 [dmppanda]: I see.
15:34:57 [luks]: that makes searching for any other edits quite complicated and slow
15:35:08 [dmppanda]: Got to update the doc.
15:36:25 [dmppanda]: I now realize what I wrote here http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/LabelSubscription is roughly innacurate. Fortunately, nobody actually reads the doc so it doesn't really matter. *grin*
15:37:31 [luks]: it will be accurate soon :)
15:37:43 [dmppanda]: cool :p
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15:40:07 [dmppanda]: AurÃ©lien, tu fais du bug triage? Au passage, tu peux me mettre Ã jour LabelFuture? Je dois dÃ©coller maintenant...
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15:44:16 [murdos]: dmppanda: sorry, xchat is not as featureful as mirc ;-)
15:44:44 [dmppanda]: barf :p
15:45:32 [dmppanda]: @+ murdos. Good evening guys ;)
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15:48:15 [murdos]: well I should update my version too: 2.0.4 compiled on 2003-08-01 :|
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16:09:16 [Jugdish]: sup Kerensky97
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16:15:52 [Kerensky97]: Good morning.
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16:45:27 [Jugdish]: is there any way to merge a non-album track into an album track?
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16:49:22 [Jugdish]: if not, there should be
16:50:11 [Freso]: Indeed.
16:50:22 [Freso]: (What's the subject?)
16:51:01 [Kerensky97]: Somebody asked the same question once and I don't remember if it can be done.
16:51:29 [Kerensky97]: (Merge a NAT into an album track)
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16:54:08 [Jugdish]: it would be useful because i can think of many instances where a song would be released as a download-only mp3 on a band's website for a while, and then later come out on an album
16:54:34 [cooperaa-studyin]: hehehe I just got a "your edit comments are annoying me" email
16:54:51 [Jugdish]: on what edit?
16:55:20 [cooperaa-studyin]: an email actually
16:55:33 [Jugdish]: oh
16:55:45 [Jugdish]: but what edit comments of yours pushed him/her over the edge? :P
16:56:06 [cooperaa-studyin]: I'm gonna find it
16:56:21 [cooperaa-studyin]: of course they didn't link to the edit :(
16:56:45 [cooperaa-studyin]: oh, I provided a direct link to the band's official tracklist on one edit
16:57:32 [cooperaa-studyin]: I voted no on his track adds and explained that the 8-track version exists separately from the 14-track version
16:57:57 [cooperaa-studyin]: and then I told him, if he wanted, he could come here and cancel them or they would fail
16:58:09 [cooperaa-studyin]: that looks like it :) haha
16:58:14 [BrianG]: hmm who is chancey?
16:58:46 [BrianG]: they ever chat on here?
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17:01:03 [cooperaa-studyin]: BrianG: sorry, I don't know
17:28:59 [aCiD2]: Hey, does anyone know how I can do a lucene query such that the order of the words doesn't necessarily matter?
17:29:16 [aCiD2]: eg, I'm trying to search "Teebee & Noisia" but MB contains "Noisia & teebee"
17:41:29 [srotta]: Damn the forums are crap :|
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17:46:07 [hagna]: anyone know how to pass char ** in ctypes?
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17:46:20 [hagna]: ruaok not here?
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18:11:31 [srotta]: And in addition to forums, I also hate labels.
18:11:32 [srotta]: :P
18:14:37 [srotta]: Johanna was a Finnish label that began in 1976. It wen bankrupt in the 80's, and another record company, Megamania, was started.
18:14:59 [srotta]: In 1989 or thereabouts the company changed its name to Johanna again.
18:16:13 [srotta]: So it publishes records under names Megamania, Johanna and Pyramid. The name of the company is Johanna Kustannus, and they say it publishes most of its releases under labels Megamania or Pyramid.
18:16:18 [srotta]: Except, of course, when it doesn't.
18:16:29 [srotta]: So, which one is the main label and which are sublabels?-)
18:20:22 [srotta]: If I choose Johanna (because it was there first, and the name of the company currently is something like that :P), was it a sublabel of Megamania during the '80s when the company publishing Johanna records was called Megamania?
18:23:02 [srotta]: Or if the company currently doesn't publish any new records under Johanna, should it actually be only a reissue label.
18:23:37 [srotta]: And should we differentiate the original Johanna and the current Johanna, because the company behind it has changed, and apparently also the focus of the label (from original production to reissues).
18:25:49 [srotta]: And then there's of course the tragic story of Love Records, which went bankrupt, but Love Kustannus (which started beside Love Records) is alive and kicking, releasing mainly compilations and reissues, and by the slight of hand also happens to own Johanna...
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18:34:26 [Jugdish]: who's the new CollaborationOfTheMonth?
18:40:20 [mudcrow]: then hopefully someone will have a clue what all the squiggles mean
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18:40:47 [aCiD2]: that looks pretty
18:41:22 [srotta]: Yeah, I enjoy those question marks :P
18:41:46 [mudcrow]: srotta needs a better client. Its hebrew
18:42:10 [aCiD2]: Yup
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18:52:20 [Jugdish_]: hey ruaok
18:52:24 [ruaok]: hi
18:54:52 [tru]: hey ruaok, the donation manager don't know about utf-8 :) so my name looks like shit :)
18:55:09 [ruaok]: on meb.org ?
18:55:30 [tru]: I got a email.
18:56:04 [ruaok]: ah, the pdf receipt.
18:56:16 [ruaok]: please file a bug report and assign it to me.
18:56:31 [tru]: track.musicbrainz.org
18:56:36 [ruaok]: and sorry about that. :-(
18:56:42 [ruaok]: bugs.mb.oerg
18:56:48 [ruaok]: -e
18:57:10 [tru]: no problem. I just thought you might want to know.
18:59:12 [tru]: http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/2717
19:00:40 [Jugdish_]: ruaok: i was talking with luks earlier and i'm kind of confused about something...why are track times uneditable after a DiscID is attached to a release if a DiscID doesn't necessarily affect the track times?
19:02:08 [ruaok]: because CDs specify track times.
19:02:26 [ruaok]: they are verifyable (kinda) as opposed to raw human input which is not.
19:02:34 [Jugdish_]: luks said that they only affect the track times if they were all ?:?? beforehand
19:02:35 [ruaok]: so once we have a disc id, we have known good data.
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19:02:48 [Jugdish_]: so if someone manually enters in all the track times, the disc id doesn't change them
19:03:04 [ruaok]: I don't think that is correct.
19:03:17 [Jugdish_]: i hope it isn't cuz it doesn't make sense :P
19:03:43 [ruaok]: I'm in the middle of a bunch of tax foo. can you bug me later about this?
19:03:59 [Jugdish_]: sure thing
19:04:18 [Jugdish_]: i feel your pain, i just did my taxes last weekend
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19:17:32 [ruaok]: my taxes and the GF's taxes are done.
19:17:33 [srotta]: Hmm. How should we handle the releases now that the labels are part of the picture? Earlier it was easy to just forget about those, as long as there was some date on the releases, but now I'd actually like to input accurate information.
19:17:42 [ruaok]: I'm just prepping stuff to give to the accountant for MetaBrainz.
19:17:52 [ruaok]: just collecting shit will be 2-3 hours of work. :(
19:17:59 [srotta]: :|
19:18:31 [ruaok]: srotta: what exactly is your question?
19:19:10 [srotta]: ruaok: The specific question - should we add release events for each different country?
19:19:30 [warp]: srotta: if the discs/cases are physically different, yes. otherwise, no.
19:19:41 [srotta]: warp: Well, how do you know?-)
19:19:44 [ruaok]: if you know the info, yes! :)
19:19:48 [srotta]: That's the problem.
19:19:51 [ruaok]: * ruaok waves at warp
19:20:08 [warp]: srotta: you know because the physical disc you have for example has a different catalog no or different label listed than the one in the db.
19:20:18 [warp]: * warp waves at ruaok
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19:20:41 [srotta]: warp: Yeah, well, most of the releases have no label or catalog numbers whatsoever currently.
19:20:49 [srotta]: warp: But they do have release dates and countries.
19:21:46 [srotta]: warp: So the problem of "where was it released really" becomes more relevant, because there may actually be some differences, even if the track listing is the same.
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19:23:30 [srotta]: The current ReleaseEventStyle wiki page doesn't even mention Labels, and the suggestions for entering the release country are sort of vague anyway.
19:24:44 [srotta]: I sort of asked this in the forums, but as always, they seem to be next to useless when you're actually trying to find out something :P
19:25:25 [mudcrow]: I still don't understand the question
19:25:50 [srotta]: Ok. I have a release.
19:26:18 [srotta]: That particular release has a release event that states it's been released in USA.
19:26:27 [srotta]: I have a version that's bought from Finland.
19:27:01 [srotta]: So, I know the label/cat#/UPC for the one released in Finland, but I don't know if it's the same release that was released in USA.
19:27:03 [ruaok]: anyone have panda's email?
19:27:34 [mudcrow]: add the label info to the release event that relates to your copy
19:28:11 [srotta]: mudcrow: Well, since there's only the one for USA...
19:28:22 [warp]: srotta: yes.. it's not always easy :S
19:28:31 [ruaok]: * ruaok finds it
19:28:38 [warp]: srotta: would be best if you could find a release date for your release.
19:28:47 [srotta]: mudcrow: On the other hand, adding a new release event for Finland sort of suggests you'd want to add those for all countries the release has been... released.
19:29:16 [mudcrow]: I do srotta, I dont treat release events any different now because we have label info
19:29:17 [srotta]: mudcrow: Which will duplicate tons of information, and will make no sense whatsoever after we add different medias and take into account that there are more than 200 potential countries.
19:29:59 [mudcrow]: yes, but its unlikely to have the exact same info for 200 countries.
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19:30:20 [srotta]: mudcrow: Yeah, but it's more than likely to have the same info for, say, 25 countries.
19:30:31 [srotta]: mudcrow: Times three-four different medias.
19:31:47 [mudcrow]: I havent come across anything like that yet srotta, most i've seen is 2 to 3 countries with the same label info. and different media will usually always have a different cat number
19:32:30 [Jugdish_]: srotta: imo, anything with the same barcode should be considered an identical item and should only have a single release event
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19:33:01 [mudcrow]: imo opinions barcode info is overrated, as 99% f everything I add has no barcode
19:33:24 [srotta]: mudcrow: Yeah, I don't mean all that information is exactly identical.
19:33:32 [Jugdish_]: imo barcode is the single most important thing you can add to prove the existence of something :P
19:33:51 [srotta]: mudcrow: I'm saying if we add a separate release event for each country, we have potentially something like 600 release events on a world-wide release.
19:34:26 [srotta]: Plus, of course, re-releases, re-re-releases, and so on. :P
19:34:33 [mudcrow]: srotta, that exactly what discogs does, and that does create the huge duplication you're imagineing
19:34:40 [mudcrow]: doesn't
19:34:47 [Jugdish_]: srotta: no, things are usually released in major markets like US, UK/Europe, Japan, and Australia. all other countries import
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19:35:18 [mudcrow]: except all those that license
19:36:52 [srotta]: mudcrow: Eh. Two separate issues. One is the amount of information. The other is the duplication.
19:37:00 [Jugdish_]: every release i've worked on only has unique barcodes for those 4 markets at the most
19:37:23 [srotta]: Jugdish_: But how do you know it's only released on those markets?
19:37:38 [Jugdish_]: google
19:37:46 [srotta]: Jugdish_: Ah, the answer to everything.
19:38:30 [Jugdish_]: it's the best source i've got for finding the existence of something
19:38:42 [srotta]: mudcrow: If we add a release for every country, the list of release information will become unusable.
19:38:47 [mudcrow]: I would never consider not entering info because there is too much. And if duplication is a problem, it can probably be sorted by some coding. I think its a bit early yet to worry about entering too much ifon & duplication
19:39:26 [Jugdish_]: i don't know what you mean by duplication
19:39:29 [Jugdish_]: duplication of release events?
19:40:41 [srotta]: Jugdish_: Duplication of information. If the same album is released on every European country by the same label, we're looking at about three sets of label information (for each media) with about 30 release events each.
19:41:27 [Jugdish_]: if it's on the same label with the same catalog # and same barcode, then just add a single release event under "Europe"
19:41:55 [srotta]: Jugdish_: And me being in Finland and having the local CD on my hand will know that it's released everywhere, because...?-)
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19:42:22 [mudcrow]: you don't, just enter the info relating to your release
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19:42:37 [Jugdish]: i admit the most difficult part is matching up label/cat#/barcode with date/country info
19:43:29 [Jugdish]: date/country isn't directly printed on the cd so i understand that there's a slight gap of uncertainty that goes with finding that info out and knowing whether you've got it right or not
19:43:48 [Kerensky97]: Just enter what you know with a note on the edit. people can expand on it later if need be.
19:44:01 [mudcrow]: date & country is usually printed on releases
19:44:05 [srotta]: No one reads those even on open edits :P
19:44:27 [srotta]: mudcrow: The year of publication, perhaps. Country, certainly not.
19:44:42 [Jugdish]: mudcrow: the year may be printed. i've never seen country
19:44:46 [Kerensky97]: But people can go back and read the note later when they question it 6 months down the road.
19:44:58 [srotta]: mudcrow: You're looking at this from the point of view of a big country.
19:45:29 [mudcrow]: country is, if you know what to look for. look at the label info, that usually refers to country also the copyright agency will point to country of intended release
19:46:34 [mudcrow]: TEOSTO printed on the release means its intented for a Finland market
19:47:11 [srotta]: It may mean it originates from Finland.
19:47:16 [srotta]: And not necessarily even that.
19:48:21 [srotta]: I have a couple of CDs right here I'm adding right now, not a single one mentions Teosto. Yeah, I do know it reads in the CDs, and seems to be more common these days than on earlier releases.
19:49:31 [Jugdish]: srotta: just googling the barcode will give you a lot of insight about it
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20:04:29 [srotta]: Heh. Universal Netherlands has Apocalyptica album on its site, Universal Finland site apparently doesn't.
20:05:12 [srotta]: And yeah, you can find all sorts of things from Google. The problem is, not a lot of it is reliable, and none of it can tell that something doesn't exist.
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20:07:33 [srotta]: And yes, I may be making this more complicated than it is, but I'm sort of trying to point out that adding label/release information is somewhat problematic for me, so it's likely to be problematic for other people too.
20:07:55 [cooperaa-studyin]: srotta: it is very confusing, I agree with your last msg
20:11:42 [srotta]: Thanks. 8)
20:15:58 [hagna]: ruaok: two years later I also can't figure out how to pass mutable string to char ** with ctypes
20:16:19 [ruaok]: ctypes is a total pita, thats for sure.
20:16:44 [hagna]: ruaok: did you ever find out how?
20:16:49 [cooperaa-studyin]: ruaok: check out http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/PicardQt/MacInstallGuide
20:17:02 [ruaok]: cooperaa-studyin: you're not studyin!
20:17:22 [cooperaa-studyin]: I couldn't last night after my exam!! I had already studied all day and all weekend... so I took a break
20:17:28 [ruaok]: hagna: I don't remember. You might want to ask luks who has been working on this more than I have recently.
20:17:28 [cooperaa-studyin]: but now, I will be studying :) I promise
20:18:03 [ruaok]: :-)
20:18:04 [cooperaa-studyin]: (there are 8 more hours of studying time left today, hopefully I can use at least 6 of those ;))
20:18:14 [ruaok]: Ok, I'll take a look when I have some serious issue off my plate.
20:18:35 [cooperaa-studyin]: cool, just wanted to let you know I fixed it up (so did luks) and I tried it out last night
20:18:59 [cooperaa-studyin]: (still having issues with libofa - I'm not sure why... and now libdiscid doesn't work anymore :( )
20:19:20 [cooperaa-studyin]: anyways, I'll leave it in your court now
20:19:20 [cooperaa-studyin]: take care
20:22:23 [ruaok]: k, thanks.
20:24:33 [Prodoc]: ruaok: http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/2715
20:25:20 [ruaok]: hi Prodoc !
20:25:34 [Prodoc]: darn, I keep forgetting, hi ruaok ;-)
20:25:41 [ruaok]: I'll go take a look at that when I get back from lunch, ok?
20:25:48 [Prodoc]: np
20:25:55 [ruaok]: heh. don't be silly. :)
20:26:07 [ruaok]: ok, off to lunch
20:26:17 [Prodoc]: see you later
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20:52:50 [Noone]: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://www.unav.es/digilab/proyectosenl/2002/nada_tiene_sentido/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dnada%2Btiene%2Bsentido%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26hs%3DQqO
20:53:49 [Noone]: <-- sen btw
20:55:03 [Kerensky97]: The voicemail message on my phone is like that.
20:56:04 [Noone]: nada tiene sentido = nothing makes sense?
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21:04:00 [SenRepus]: wtf there is snow outside
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21:09:31 [liquid_raven]: There don't happen to be someone related to the Gentoo overlay for musicbrainz on this channel?
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21:10:58 [SenRepus]: not me, thats for sure
21:13:44 [liquid_raven]: um, well I'll just pastebin my compile log and see if someone has a clue on what might be wrong anyway
21:14:20 [aCiD2]: Yo, it looks like there is a pending change on http://musicbrainz.org/show/release/relationships.html?releaseid=596910 -- how do I find out what it is?
21:14:48 [aCiD2]: aha, got it
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21:19:48 [liquid_raven]: http://pastebin.ca/435261 <- anyway, that's what I'm getting
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21:24:50 [Prodoc]: This is going to sound ridiculous but I'm looking for the artist and name of the track sung by a female with a very heavy soul kind of voice. The chorus of the song is basically nothing more than 'Hey nanana, Hey nanana (backing vocals), Hey nanana, Hey nanana(backing vocals), Nananaaaa'
21:25:12 [Prodoc]: anyone any clue?
21:25:13 [Jugdish]: aretha franklin
21:25:15 [Jugdish]: :P
21:25:33 [Prodoc]: positive?
21:25:58 [Jugdish]: no, in fact i just pulled that out of my ass so ignore it
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21:31:50 [aCiD2]: Does matt who does python-musicbrainz2 come here?
21:31:53 [aCiD2]: Need to speak to him...
21:32:04 [ruaok]: not since he got a real job. :)
21:32:10 [aCiD2]: Darn
21:32:18 [ruaok]: email him...
21:32:32 [aCiD2]: Yea, will do, just was in the middle of coding and was hoping he was around :)
21:34:08 [aCiD2]: Where can I find his address?
21:34:49 [ruaok]: * ruaok sends pmesg top aCiD2
21:34:59 [aCiD2]: ta
21:38:42 [aCiD2]: Doh, half way through an email, and then I solved the problem >.<
21:44:54 [SenRepus]: lol
21:45:59 [Jugdish]: ruaok: http://chatlogs.musicbrainz.org/2007/2007-04/2007-04-11.html#T14-53-07-859944
21:46:18 [ruaok]: later still. :-(
21:47:13 [Jugdish]: i'm goin' to sleep, so msg me or ping my name when you get a chance to take a look
21:47:45 [ruaok]: k.
21:47:53 [ruaok]: this week is pretty rough for me.
21:48:04 [ruaok]: tax season, server swapping and a board meeting on friday.
21:48:11 [ruaok]: I'll take a look when I can.
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21:51:34 [cooperaa-studyin]: ruaok: you are pretty busy sounding!
21:51:52 [ruaok]: not just sounding, but I actually am. :)
21:51:58 [ruaok]: this week is all about "overhead"
21:52:04 [cooperaa-studyin]: don't worry about macpicard for a bit I'm in no hurry to submit all my pweeds ;)
21:52:05 [ruaok]: i.e. not the fun stuff.
21:52:13 [ruaok]: :-)
21:52:17 [cooperaa-studyin]: I know the feeling -> studying all day every day :(
21:53:00 [cooperaa-studyin]: thank goodness for music and a never ending edit queue to help give me a study break ;)
21:53:50 [aCiD2]: I wish I colud get down to studying :/
21:53:56 [aCiD2]: Damn hobby programming projects!
21:54:07 [cooperaa-studyin]: hehe
21:54:22 [cooperaa-studyin]: ruaok: are you aware of any open tickets for video tagging support in picard?
21:54:44 [ruaok]: wouldn't that question be better posed to luks?
21:54:47 [aCiD2]: I just took over www.trainspotted.org and I'm adding MusicBrainz integration to it, pretty slick :)
21:55:12 [cooperaa-studyin]: ya, I suppose so but I didn't want to bother luks if he wasn't in the channel at the moment
21:55:22 [cooperaa-studyin]: was just curious, I'll search bugs.mb anyways
21:55:46 [cooperaa-studyin]: aCiD2: cool, how did you incorporate mb?
21:56:11 [aCiD2]: I'll show you, I got a live demo up atm
21:56:24 [aCiD2]: http://86.128.21.168/mixes/
21:56:39 [aCiD2]: If you click a mix, notice the mb icons?
21:56:55 [aCiD2]: Well, that means that all data for a track is coming from a cached version of the data on the MusicBrainz server
21:57:41 [aCiD2]: Also, on http://86.128.21.168/mixes/1/ there is a lil discogs icon. Well that links to discogs, and the discogs URL is found using the MusicBrainz data too
21:57:56 [cooperaa-studyin]: nice
21:58:09 [aCiD2]: Not sure what else to do with the data yet, but i'm sure I'll get some ideas
21:58:32 [cooperaa-studyin]: Amazon links to purchase?
21:58:51 [aCiD2]: good idea!
21:59:00 [aCiD2]: Probably won't see many, cause it's dj sets - and most of them are vinyl
21:59:06 [aCiD2]: but I'll chuck that in anyway :)
21:59:24 [cooperaa-studyin]: * cooperaa-studyin adds asin to Calyx - No Turning Back for you ;)
21:59:29 [aCiD2]: :D
21:59:41 [cooperaa-studyin]: and corrects the tracks' capitalization ;)
21:59:45 [aCiD2]: hehe
21:59:54 [aCiD2]: What's wrong with the caps there?
22:00:08 [cooperaa-studyin]: To -> to, Remix -> remix
22:00:13 [aCiD2]: ahh
22:00:15 [cooperaa-studyin]: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/CapitalizationStandardEnglish and http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/RemixStyle
22:00:17 [aCiD2]: and The to the
22:00:20 [aCiD2]: Yea, I know the styles :P
22:00:31 [aCiD2]: I thought you meant the capitallization for "Illusions"
22:00:39 [cooperaa-studyin]: I almost missed "The", thanks!! haha
22:00:51 [aCiD2]: ill.skillz is wrong too. I'll grab that one :)
22:01:04 [aCiD2]: God, what sloppy data I'm using as an example :P
22:01:10 [cooperaa-studyin]: hehe
22:01:22 [cooperaa-studyin]: cool site, I'm interested to see what it turns out like
22:01:51 [cooperaa-studyin]: would you mind firing an email my way or even better - maybe ruaok will assign someone (you?) to post a blog about it on mb.org
22:02:02 [ruaok]: * ruaok is on the phone
22:02:03 [aCiD2]: Sure, when it's a bit more complete :)
22:02:21 [cooperaa-studyin]: yes sorry, I didn't finish my sentence... I meant when you have it all setup :)
22:02:26 [aCiD2]: I'm not sure how useful it will be, most dj sets have are posted to forums, with a tracklisting there
22:02:38 [aCiD2]: But this generates cuesheets and such
22:03:01 [aCiD2]: Also, I'm going to try and add a recommendation system in too
22:05:22 [cooperaa-studyin]: I've gotta get back to studying... good luck with yours and with the site!
22:05:28 [aCiD2]: :)
22:05:32 [aCiD2]: have fun
22:05:36 [cooperaa-studyin]: heh
22:05:39 [aCiD2]: :)
22:05:46 [cooperaa-studyin]: ya right... later!
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22:26:42 [liquid_raven]: why oh WHY
22:26:56 [liquid_raven]: all my settings for picard are suddenly gone
22:27:21 [liquid_raven]: so I'll have to chew a lot of logs to figure out what I put in the rename fields
22:27:29 [liquid_raven]: :(
22:32:39 [aCiD2]: Can't you just go through your collection and look how they are?
22:32:46 [aCiD2]: I left mine default anyway, does the job for me :)
22:35:00 [liquid_raven]: it's all right, I think I almost have it figured out now
22:38:01 [liquid_raven]: $lower($replace(%albumartist%/%albumartist%-%album%-%releasetype%-$left(%date%,4)-%_extension%/$num(%tracknumber%,4)-%artist%-%title%, ,_)) <-- that's the one I was using
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23:25:08 [cooperaa-studyin]: liquid_raven: how's picardqt treating you now?
23:27:40 [ruaok]: better than your studying, I would guess.
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23:32:54 [liquid_raven]: cooperaa-studyin: quite well actually
23:33:17 [liquid_raven]: I still can't compile the latest version, but apart from that we're getting along fine again :)
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