IRC log of musicbrainz on 2007-05-04

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BrianFreud: http://www.morrissey-solo.com/content/jonimoz-cd.htm
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Clint: still getting a 404 from that site... wierd
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03:02:28 [ajh]
anyone here printing directly onto cdr's with an inkjet?
03:04:43 [BrianFreud]
I was, til my Epson broke
03:04:54 [ajh]
how well does it work?
03:05:24 [BrianFreud]
Works very well - even with the generic inks. Just don't ever get the discs wet, or store them in any heavy humidity
03:05:41 [ajh]
ah, so going with a UV printer would be better.
03:05:41 [BrianFreud]
the ink will run and or the disc will get very sticky
03:05:47 [BrianFreud]
UV printer?
03:06:01 [ajh]
yeah, it uses UV to cure the dye vs evap.
03:06:10 [BrianFreud]
haven't seen one of those
03:06:14 [ajh]
archival ink should also be waterproof.
03:06:26 [BrianFreud]
Epson inks are waterproof
03:06:27 [ajh]
but the resolution is good and they don't wear off?
03:06:39 [ajh]
why would the ink run then?
03:06:41 [BrianFreud]
but the ink doesn't stick to the CD media well enough to not become runny
03:06:58 [BrianFreud]
it's the coating on the media that makes it run, not the ink itself
03:07:07 [ajh]
yeah, so you want a paintjet then...
03:07:11 [BrianFreud]
At work, we used to have a photo from the same Epson model I have
03:07:14 [ajh]
ok, thanks.
03:07:36 [BrianFreud]
We stored in a bottle of water for 2 years. Ink never ran - eventually the photo paper disintegrated though .:P
03:07:57 [ajh]
interesting, so a different media might fix it.
03:08:00 [BrianFreud]
maybe
03:08:16 [BrianFreud]
most people seem to get around the problem by using clear coat sprays on Epson and Cannon printed CDs
03:08:24 [ajh]
Just going to centrally archive original cd's for family and want a way to print cd's to give back.
03:08:44 [BrianFreud]
do you care about color?
03:08:45 [ajh]
suppose I could do that. I need to price it vs lightscribe.
03:08:52 [BrianFreud]
that's what I was thinking...
03:09:03 [ajh]
the one problem is lightscribe takes awhile.
03:09:09 [BrianFreud]
lightscribe is slightly more expensive - even wholesale
03:09:19 [ajh]
and while you're doing it you tie up the drive.
03:09:23 [BrianFreud]
yup
03:09:39 [BrianFreud]
no ink issues with LS though
03:09:50 [ajh]
know how long doing a disk takes? I mostly just want artist, album and track info, nothing fancy
03:10:21 [BrianFreud]
printing? maybe 30 seconds. Lightscribe, last I checked, 35-45 minutes per disk
03:10:32 [ajh]
yeah, that's a major diff.
03:10:42 [BrianFreud]
Ink dries in about 5 min, but best to let them sit overnight to cure
03:11:28 [ajh]
ok, thanks that's helpful... I should see about renting one from best buy to see.
03:11:39 [ajh]
wonder if I can get them all done and printed in 30 days :)
03:12:22 [BrianFreud]
ink printer?
03:12:27 [ajh]
yeah
03:12:54 [BrianFreud]
just buy one - they're cheaper. Epson R3xx series does the job - mine lasted around 1200 cd/dvds, plus general photo printing
03:12:56 [ajh]
I've got my garage walls covered in pegboard for climbing gear, I could rig it up with hooks for drying :)
03:12:57 [BrianFreud]
run $100-$150 us
03:13:09 [BrianFreud]
you in the us or elsewhere?
03:13:36 [ajh]
Canada. I already have an HP3030 and CLJ3600 though... also some 930C and 932C/
03:13:43 [BrianFreud]
The Cannon gets a lot better ratings, esp for CD/DVD printing, but they only sell CD/DVD printing models in Europe
03:13:52 [BrianFreud]
We in NA get stuck having to go with the Epson models
03:13:59 [ajh]
Hmm, this Imation media has a lifetime warranty.
03:14:29 [ajh]
Having one brought over is pretty easy... got a conference in 2 months with lots of folks coming from there.
03:14:37 [BrianFreud]
hmmm, 1 sec, let me find the contact for the guy I normally bought from - good media choices, and cheap :) (cheaper than I could get in wholesale, actually)
03:15:31 [ajh]
thanks, gotta run but if you msg the info I'd appreciate it.
03:15:46 [BrianFreud]
Just got an email from him, actually... http://www.genesysdtp.com/specials.htm
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04:09:04 [catgroove]
yeg hater fredag
04:09:10 [catgroove]
:(
04:09:13 [catgroove]
-_-
04:17:28 [BrianFreud]
hei catgroove :)
04:27:07 [warp]
mpc pause
04:27:09 [warp]
meh
04:27:25 [warp]
goodmorning!
04:40:12 [ajh]
Looks like what I need is a thermal transfer printer.
04:41:48 [BrianFreud]
Do they make one that does CDs now?
04:42:11 [ajh]
A fair number, I only need black and white so lots from about $75 up.
04:42:21 [ajh]
Just started looking at them though.
04:42:49 [BrianFreud]
as I recall, the "ink" on the thermals was rather pricy... is that really better vs LS, if you're sticking to b&w?
04:43:11 [ajh]
30 minutes vs 1 is a big deal.
04:43:26 [BrianFreud]
true
04:43:29 [ajh]
I'll do more research over the next week and decide on something.
04:43:35 [BrianFreud]
:)
04:43:59 [ajh]
There's one that claims a $20 ribbon will do 50-200 cd's
04:44:02 [BrianFreud]
Ok, next time I decide to take an artist to 100% on something,
04:44:24 [BrianFreud]
I'm choosing a random one hit wonder, not some bad who did a gazillion performances and has a million bootlegs
04:44:26 [BrianFreud]
lol
04:45:07 [ajh]
Dell sells the Teac P11 which seems popular.
04:45:27 [BrianFreud]
is it Dell, or Teac? (for ink availability)
04:45:37 [ajh]
no clue.
04:45:55 [BrianFreud]
like the Phasors, which were always really popular, but the thermal replacements were pricy and hard to find
04:47:22 [BrianFreud]
I tended to specialize in, among a few lines, printers. Best advice I can give is, figure out your monthly use, short and long term, figure out the costs for the supplies for your intended uses, then go from there. :)
04:50:13 [BrianFreud]
Some of the printers will kill you financially, in the long run (they're designed that way...) :)
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wb drsaunde
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06:02:43 [drsaunde]
hey
06:25:55 [BrianFreud]
how goes it?
06:39:51 [drsaunde]
pretty good...i've been out partyin' (yesterday was my bday)
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07:02:39 [BrianFreud]
hey, happy b-day :)
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been trying to get a decent amount of edits done... fiancee coming to visit this weekend, so no editing gonna happen :P
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09:28:36 [aCiD2]
Mornin'
09:28:48 [aCiD2]
Any devs around? Trying to figure out how to get Mason to refresh a cached component
09:45:39 [drsaunde]
* drsaunde is amazed how long it took to enter the credits for Debut and Post
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BrianFreud: bizarre
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12:53:28 [ajh]
BrianFreud, so there's a new kind of cd media that's supposed to fix the problem.
12:54:21 [aCiD2]
Does http://86.128.149.163/search.html look ok in decent browsers (firefox/safari/opera) ?
12:54:29 [aCiD2]
About to commit my changes to it
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13:20:33 [ojnkpjg]
acid2, looks fine to me
13:20:37 [ojnkpjg]
couple of small things, though:
13:20:50 [ojnkpjg]
on the production server, the relatable icon is gone from the partners portal
13:21:01 [ojnkpjg]
and there's a big google one under metabrainz
13:21:34 [ojnkpjg]
i think you also need to throw a ^TM after "powered by Google"
13:29:17 [aCiD2]
ojnkpjg: Ya, that google one is cause it's only in the production server, not the RELEASE i branched off
13:29:22 [aCiD2]
We'll have to merge that I think
13:29:33 [aCiD2]
I'll chuck that TM in though
13:43:18 [Muz]
aCiD2, does that log in box need to be so long?
13:43:34 [aCiD2]
Muz: I'm working on that at the moment
13:43:37 [aCiD2]
That's a bug :)
13:43:39 [Muz]
Goood good
13:45:24 [ajh]
BrianFreud, ever do scanning of the CD surface for printing back on?
13:47:50 [Shepard]
aCiD2: I think on the left side the fieldsets could replace the orange boxes. otherwise the cascaded boxes for Tag Lookup look confusing
13:48:06 [aCiD2]
I thought so too Shepard
13:48:12 [aCiD2]
I'll do that :)
13:48:16 [Shepard]
:)
13:52:26 [aCiD2]
There we go
13:54:54 [Shepard]
nice! and shouldn't "Advanced" be in a <legend> rather than a <label>? and why's there another fieldset inside of it?
13:55:49 [aCiD2]
Yea :P Bug again :D
13:55:52 [aCiD2]
* aCiD2 is nearly done
13:56:32 [aCiD2]
I'm tempted to make fieldsets look like the normal orange boxes... but can't decide
13:56:47 [aCiD2]
Anyway, all bugs fixed now
13:57:23 [Shepard]
is that actually possible?
13:57:25 [Shepard]
nice work
13:57:54 [aCiD2]
Sure is
13:58:04 [aCiD2]
I just wonder if it would be more confusing to users
13:58:33 [aCiD2]
But at the moment the 2 styles clash, imo
13:59:15 [Shepard]
html validator shows 4 errors :P
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* aCiD2 is on the case!
14:03:13 [Shepard]
you added a lot of layout-whitespace, I like that
14:03:32 [aCiD2]
Yea, I like whitespace, but I tried not to add -too- much
14:03:36 [aCiD2]
Glad to see I've got it right :)
14:03:47 [aCiD2]
It should scale with text well too Shepard
14:04:54 [aCiD2]
Ok, it's valid now - shall I try making it [the fieldsets] the same as the orange boxes?
14:05:48 [aCiD2]
The only thing that'll screw up is the Advanced section though
14:05:58 [Shepard]
well you can use a separate class for that
14:06:43 [aCiD2]
No, you shouldn't really have a fieldset in a fieldset
14:07:35 [Shepard]
hm? where would there be a fieldset in a fieldset then?
14:08:02 [Shepard]
afk
14:08:03 [aCiD2]
Well, the whole login bit would have been a fieldset, with the advanced section inside it
14:08:05 [aCiD2]
ok
14:08:20 [aCiD2]
I'll tidy up a few more things, commit this code, and then decide what to do :)
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14:29:16 [Jugdish]
was bob marley official decided on for collab'o'the month?
14:30:07 [aCiD2]
Looks like it
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14:52:34 [ajh]
anyone know a really well thought out music taxonomy system?
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14:53:49 [ajh]
might be interesting to re-do one in Latin following the biology one. :)
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{global notice} Good day all. We had a problem with one of our rotation servers that segfaulted. We are currently working on the problem, and i will give any further updates in wallops, thank you for your time, and thank you for using freenode!
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15:38:56 [BrianFreud]
ajh: no, never scanned then
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15:47:39 [catgroove]
acid: http://86.128.149.163/search.html it looks nice.. but thetext is to small
15:47:53 [catgroove]
and the grey searchbar search fields are weird
15:48:04 [catgroove]
they're kinda 'cut off' if you know what I mean
15:51:03 [catgroove]
and all buttons on the page look like they're to small for the text also. :)
15:51:13 [catgroove]
hey. I'll give a image
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15:59:58 [Shepard]
hi mo
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16:00:15 [catgroove]
hi sheppi
16:00:20 [catgroove]
say hi to nikki for me
16:00:39 [Shepard]
you can do that as well ;)
16:00:41 [Shepard]
hi yllona
16:01:01 [catgroove]
she tends to not answer me :(
16:01:04 [yllona]
hi Shepard
16:01:09 [catgroove]
heida ylla
16:01:17 [yllona]
g'morning mo
16:01:25 [catgroove]
lol it's 18:00
16:01:31 [catgroove]
more like time of day
16:02:51 [srotta]
Got a book from local library: Queen: Complete Works.
16:02:57 [catgroove]
:OOOOOOOOOoooooo
16:02:59 [catgroove]
OMG
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* catgroove invies srotta
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Copyright 2007 :O
16:03:29 [catgroove]
;_; OMG
16:03:31 [catgroove]
:D~
16:03:45 [catgroove]
:'D~ ~~~
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16:04:42 [srotta]
It's got information about bands before, during and after Queen, some gigs, tour info, and of course information about different releases :P
16:04:52 [catgroove]
omgomg
16:04:55 [catgroove]
awsum
16:05:05 [catgroove]
lots of edits and finally fix stuff!
16:05:11 [catgroove]
æ„›
16:06:50 [srotta]
Hopefully :P
16:06:55 [catgroove]
♡
16:07:37 [srotta]
At least it seems to have quite a lot of information.
16:07:42 [catgroove]
yay
16:08:09 [srotta]
Including track lengths, cat#s etc.
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oO M G
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* catgroove dies
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OMG
16:08:25 [srotta]
And at least some country-specific information.
16:08:30 [catgroove]
WAH
16:08:34 [catgroove]
so much envy
16:08:54 [catgroove]
also I feel sorrof for you ujust a bit, so much info is going to take so much time
16:09:28 [BrianFreud]
hehehe
16:09:32 [srotta]
Well, I have about six months :P
16:09:36 [catgroove]
:O
16:09:42 [catgroove]
I can only rent for 4 weeks
16:09:46 [BrianFreud]
welcome to the club of the insane :)
16:09:47 [yllona]
The video is up for the spinal tap reunion: http://tinyurl.com/24l9cc
16:09:53 [catgroove]
actually 2 weeks for cd's and 4 weeks for books
16:09:53 [srotta]
As long as noone else reserves that book.
16:10:14 [srotta]
catgroove: Same here, but you can extend the loan online, if nobody else wants the book
16:10:20 [catgroove]
oh
16:11:02 [catgroove]
I don't like to go online because then they send me expiration reminders and 'the book you ureserved has arived' by emails instead of by mail wicch is what I want
16:12:34 [catgroove]
hah!
16:12:40 [catgroove]
i'm listening to some radio thinger
16:12:52 [catgroove]
and it sounded like robert plant
16:13:00 [catgroove]
but the artist was called 'the move'
16:13:14 [catgroove]
but then i recall, he was a member of some 'the move' wasn't he? :P
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http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?3b1f722d69.png
16:27:36 [Jugdish]
yeek
16:27:52 [Jugdish]
doesn't look that bad in firefox :P
16:42:02 [catgroove]
oh I found that thingy that shows me wtf my computer's stats
16:48:46 [Muz]
* Muz giggles at the wonky screenshot mo posted
16:48:56 [Muz]
* Muz bokmerker's FauxFaux
16:49:02 [catgroove]
:D
16:49:33 [catgroove]
actually you don't need an 's there as its a plural/action
16:50:02 [catgroove]
* catgroove redigerer muz
16:50:16 [Muz]
:(
16:50:24 [catgroove]
it's 'edits' :)
16:50:40 [catgroove]
* catgroove gives muz en elgkalv
16:50:54 [Muz]
:)
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16:52:39 [catgroove]
yay winamp internet radio :o
16:53:42 [bogdanb]
Hello everyone! I'm trying to install a local copy of the server for tinkering with. However, the database is quite big. Does anyone have a slimed-down version of it?
16:56:26 [Muz]
Mmm slime
16:57:44 [catgroove]
* catgroove ♪ Paul Simon - Mother & Child Reunion (S K Y . F M - All Hit 70s - All Hits, All The Time!) (0:0-1) ♪
16:57:54 [catgroove]
jay free-radio
16:59:14 [ajh]
wait, so if cover art appear in the box does that mean it's embedded or external?
16:59:27 [catgroove]
what box? o_O
16:59:36 [catgroove]
* catgroove plays for yllona
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* catgroove ♪ Earth Wind & Fire - Saturday Nite (S K Y . F M - All Hit 70s - All Hits, All The Time!) (0:0-1) ♪
16:59:43 [ajh]
on qt
16:59:50 [yllona]
thanks mo
16:59:59 [catgroove]
:D
17:00:14 [warp]
ajh: that's just the amazon cover art on musicbrainz, not anything in the file or on your disk -- afaik.
17:00:19 [yllona]
that track is from the "Spirit" album, 1976 i thionk
17:00:23 [catgroove]
cool
17:00:23 [yllona]
*think
17:00:48 [warp]
* warp pops in :)
17:00:56 [catgroove]
hi warpen
17:01:02 [warp]
hi mo
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* catgroove wories about cats and cat's hair
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* warp worries about his INBOX growing to big with Stuff-To-Do
17:02:15 [catgroove]
yea, but that troubles noone but oneself
17:02:17 [warp]
catgroove: what about cat(s) (hairs) ?
17:02:29 [catgroove]
ru is allergic for cats
17:02:35 [warp]
oh :(
17:02:38 [catgroove]
:/
17:02:45 [warp]
he's made plans to visit .no then?
17:02:54 [catgroove]
yes
17:02:58 [warp]
nice :)
17:02:58 [catgroove]
and staying here with me :o
17:03:33 [warp]
ok.. actually staying.. than it might be a bit of a problem.
17:03:41 [BrianFreud]
ajh: embedded art means its written to the id3 tag (or eqiv) in the file. external means it's a file called "folder.jpg" stored in the same dir.
17:03:42 [catgroove]
ja :(
17:03:43 [warp]
* warp imagens lots of vacuuming and whatnot
17:03:51 [catgroove]
* catgroove will haveto vacuume every day
17:03:53 [catgroove]
but heh
17:04:01 [catgroove]
I'l lhgave to brush them i n the bathroom everyday too
17:04:09 [warp]
brrr
17:04:15 [catgroove]
but gerenally they're sceptic of new people ,so they'll stay away from him
17:04:20 [warp]
ok
17:04:43 [warp]
you can't have some family or friends take care of your cats for a few days?
17:04:48 [catgroove]
.. no
17:04:56 [warp]
:/
17:05:03 [catgroove]
if that was the case I'd have taken a break for mthem a long time ago, lolf
17:05:16 [warp]
aw, meanie!
17:05:20 [catgroove]
mom lives in thetiny appartment where it is not allowed to have cats :(
17:05:20 [warp]
;)
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ah
17:05:33 [ajh]
BrianFreud, yes I know that, but I was wondering how to tell which had which already.
17:05:51 [catgroove]
hey, even parents have breaks form their kids sometimes. sometimes you uneed breask for m the people (cats) you love
17:06:02 [warp]
yeah
17:06:07 [catgroove]
* catgroove is adding Frijid pink singles
17:06:32 [warp]
there's no other place where they can take care of them for a few days?
17:06:45 [catgroove]
not really
17:06:46 [catgroove]
..
17:06:57 [warp]
i know there's places in .nl where people bring their pets for a week orso when they go on holiday,.. costs money ofcourse.
17:07:26 [catgroove]
but I can after all keep them in my room if all els fails, and I'll vacume and brush them (not a bad thing, brushing cats is sorta terapautic, and they'll shure love it) and ru has allergy meds he can take..
17:07:38 [BrianFreud]
ajh, not sure how you could tell without some other prog - the pic in the picard box is straight off the AMZ ASIN AR.
17:07:39 [warp]
ok :)
17:07:51 [warp]
yeah, that sounds like it'll wokr.
17:07:54 [warp]
work.
17:08:15 [catgroove]
heh I've herard this osng before
17:08:16 [catgroove]
* catgroove ♪ Steely Dan - FM (No Static At All) (S K Y . F M - All Hit 70s - All Hits, All The Time!) (0:0-1) ♪
17:08:52 [catgroove]
nothing but blues and elvis ...
17:08:58 [warp]
ajh: i have some random perl script somewhere, could be useful if you're on linux or mac :)
17:09:01 [catgroove]
does he sing 'fucked up music'?
17:09:23 [catgroove]
yllona?
17:09:24 [BrianFreud]
warp, couldn't he run the perl on windows?
17:09:50 [ajh]
warp, I'll how far I get like this first thanks but I'll track you down for that if I run into problems. Deleting dupes caused by itunes now :(
17:09:52 [catgroove]
needs runtimethinger
17:10:06 [BrianFreud]
yeah, but there's a windows one too - just need to install it
17:10:06 [BrianFreud]
lol
17:10:07 [warp]
BrianFreud: certainly, but getting the deps from CPAN is a hassle on windows, .. probably easier to just find a gui tagger which can show that.
17:10:07 [yllona]
in the song FM? no... it's an song about the glory days of FM radio
17:10:11 [catgroove]
funked up music..
17:10:21 [catgroove]
yea
17:10:25 [BrianFreud]
warp - I just installed it the other day... they have a pre-packed installer for win now :)
17:10:26 [catgroove]
it's got funky lyrics :D
17:11:01 [yllona]
also i think that track is from donald fagen's first solo album, not asteely dan lbum
17:11:04 [warp]
BrianFreud: there has always been activestate, but that just doesn't work well if you need CPAN stuff not re-packaged by activestate themselves.
17:11:17 [BrianFreud]
ah, I see what you mean, ok
17:11:26 [warp]
BrianFreud: other than that, i only know about some cygwin port.. not fun either.
17:11:33 [warp]
I haven't looked recently though.
17:11:40 [catgroove]
yllona: I wouldn't know, it's possibletheradio has it misstagged .but I wouldn't know :(
17:12:11 [BrianFreud]
ajh: dbpoweramp has a explorer plugin that'll let you see ID3 tags (and equivs) - it supports showing album art, if any in the file
17:12:14 [catgroove]
* catgroove giggles
17:12:15 [ajh]
OS isn't an issue, I have Solaris-Sparc, XP-64(Itanium), XP(intel), Vista(64), MacOS9, FC6, FC7t4(intel),FC7t4(PPC), something embedded in Broadcom hardware, WRT54G with DD-WRT, etc...
17:12:17 [catgroove]
* catgroove ♪ Bachman Turner Overdrive - You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet (S K Y . F M - All Hit 70s - All Hits, All The Time!) (0:0-1) ♪
17:12:21 [warp]
* warp dives into the remaining musicbrainz-style mail, afk
17:12:26 [ajh]
BrianFreud, ok thanks.
17:12:28 [catgroove]
hadet warp
17:12:39 [catgroove]
we'll send a rescue team if you're not back in 4 days
17:12:59 [BrianFreud]
lol, yeah, 10 digests in two days...
17:13:03 [warp]
catgroove: thanks :D
17:19:03 [BrianG]
* BrianG is listening to: Linval Thompson - Blunted In The Bomb Shelter - I Love Marijuana - (1:04/2:05)
17:19:23 [catgroove]
* catgroove ♪ Hot Chocolate - You Sexy Thing (S K Y . F M - All Hit 70s - All Hits, All The Time!) (0:0-1) ♪
17:19:57 [BrianG]
are we both listening to songs about our fixes?
17:20:49 [BrianG]
oh wait.. hot chocolate is an artist
17:22:07 [BrianFreud]
heh, sex is a fix too :)
17:22:10 [catgroove]
* catgroove in so case mo needs a musicbrainz song
17:22:27 [BrianG]
isn't there some MB drinking song?
17:23:07 [BrianFreud]
it's the MB drinking game... drink anytime someone mentions voting, y-bombs, and newbies :)
17:23:22 [BrianG]
:x
17:23:46 [catgroove]
my cat is wrapped up in my gum o_O
17:23:54 [BrianG]
oh!
17:23:59 [BrianG]
i know how to get gum off of a cat
17:24:04 [BrianFreud]
sounds messy
17:24:12 [BrianG]
put it in the microwave for a few minutes
17:24:22 [BrianG]
comes right off
17:24:27 [BrianFreud]
that's jello!
17:24:51 [catgroove]
* catgroove sigh
17:25:20 [BrianG]
^ ^
17:28:34 [BrianG]
one of my favorite bands is playing at the club i work at tomorrow night :D
17:28:51 [catgroove]
rubbercat?
17:29:06 [BrianG]
http://musicbrainz.org/artist/9501a1d0-04a2-47ee-828d-9d016c315bb7.html
17:31:04 [BrianG]
'oh noez i gotz yer gumz'
17:31:06 [BrianG]
http://www.rubbercat.net/rubbercat.gif
17:31:59 [Muz]
Time to shave kitty
17:32:07 [Muz]
That's how to get the gum off
17:33:15 [BrianG]
!weather 12866
17:33:19 [BrainzBot]
Saratoga Springs, NY (12866): 65°F / 18.3°C, Sunny
17:35:26 [ajh]
hrm, uk server down or something? if I do a 'lookup' (web lookup) qt is freezing.
17:35:57 [BrianFreud]
catgroove, on a serious note, I used to find icecubes worked well for getting gum off my roommate's cats
17:36:19 [BrianFreud]
!weather 14220
17:36:20 [BrainzBot]
Buffalo, NY (14220): 64°F / 17.8°C, Sunny
17:36:37 [BrianFreud]
no fair, you get better weather :P
17:37:33 [BrianG]
icecubes a pimp
17:38:04 [BrianG]
its fairly windy here
17:38:24 [BrianG]
so it's about the same if you factor in "wind chill"
17:39:08 [BrianG]
* BrianG is listening to: The Wood Brothers - Ways Not To Lose - Tried And Temped - (2:21/3:33)
17:39:59 [BrianFreud]
BrianG: Sarasota Springs - that the other side of the lake, on the east?
17:41:08 [BrianG]
which lake?
17:41:27 [BrianFreud]
ontario?
17:41:44 [ruaok]
yllona: did you just feel a minor quake?
17:41:50 [BrianG]
yes
17:41:56 [BrianFreud]
one of those areas I've heard of up here, but never mapped
17:41:57 [BrianG]
it's north of albany
17:42:00 [yllona]
ruaok: no
17:42:04 [BrianFreud]
gotcha
17:42:04 [ruaok]
Ah, north then.
17:42:16 [ruaok]
usgs hasn't updated yet....
17:42:27 [BrianFreud]
that was the #1 reason I moved out of CA
17:42:29 [ajh]
On Lake George?
17:42:41 [BrianG]
ajh: lake george is north of saratoga
17:42:53 [BrianFreud]
for an easterner, the quakes were just too wierd to get used to
17:42:57 [ajh]
Ah, I need to head down there next weekend to get Pyramid Mtn.
17:43:09 [BrianFreud]
you in the mountains then BrianG?
17:43:13 [BrianG]
BrianFreud: nope
17:43:20 [BrianG]
just under them
17:43:22 [ajh]
er winter not weekend :)
17:43:33 [BrianFreud]
used to go camping and skiing in the general area between Albany, VT, and Lake George
17:43:37 [ajh]
It's clearly not frozen now :)
17:43:42 [BrianG]
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=43.141078,-73.773193&spn=0.783591,1.980286&z=9&om=1
17:43:48 [BrianG]
i like to go camping at rogers rock
17:44:04 [ajh]
Going to try to get the rest of the ADK46 this summer.
17:44:15 [BrianFreud]
never been there... Can you still drink from Lake George w/o treatment?
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17:44:30 [BrianG]
BrianFreud: no idea. why bother? heh
17:44:32 [ajh]
I wouldn't, Dacks have a big Giardia issue.
17:45:00 [BrianFreud]
well that was the nice thing with Lake George - used to take a few canoes and camp on the islands in the middle of the lake
17:45:13 [BrianFreud]
water was giardia free, didn't need treatment
17:45:33 [BrianG]
i personally wouldn't drink out of any lake
17:45:53 [BrianFreud]
lol, you get used to it
17:46:11 [ajh]
or you get plasmosis, or cryptospridium.
17:46:11 [BrianFreud]
when you do like a 14 day hiking trip through the white mountains, water anywhere becomes important
17:46:29 [ajh]
Mountain streams aren't the same as lakes.
17:46:31 [BrianFreud]
nah, purification tablets and a purifyer pump
17:46:46 [ajh]
You can only use tablets so much, and pumps are mostly good.
17:46:46 [BrianFreud]
mountain lakes, more commonly
17:46:58 [BrianG]
i have no probalems with that stuff, but i wouldn't drink water directly out of a lake
17:47:14 [ajh]
Oxidation purification is best but not in the winter. We end up having to boil everything and melt from ice.
17:47:23 [BrianFreud]
that was always why I liked Lake George though - it was so clean, you didn't have to deal with the tablets taste
17:47:34 [BrianFreud]
just pull it, boil it, drink it
17:47:54 [ajh]
boiling works for any biocontaminant except prions.
17:48:06 [ajh]
* ajh is a mountaineer.
17:48:16 [BrianFreud]
not too many cows living in the middle of Lake George... :P
17:48:27 [ajh]
yeah, just saying :)
17:48:32 [BrianFreud]
lol
17:48:50 [ajh]
there's no good solution for heavy metals other than resin filters though.
17:48:57 [ajh]
what a pain.
17:49:12 [BrianFreud]
just don't hike near quarrys
17:49:22 [ajh]
Or bike across Siberia? :)
17:49:29 [ajh]
or any mining area.
17:49:33 [ajh]
or drink from James Bay.
17:49:34 [ajh]
etc.
17:49:40 [BrianFreud]
or any farming area...
17:49:42 [BrianFreud]
lol
17:49:54 [ajh]
Yeah, when you think about it there are a lot of places it's a problem.
17:50:06 [BrianFreud]
yeah, never though about it
17:50:09 [ajh]
Most people depend on minimal exposure, but if I'm doing a 6 month tour...
17:50:19 [BrianFreud]
makes sense
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17:50:34 [ajh]
Some idiot put all the big mountains in 3rd world countries.
17:51:17 [BrianFreud]
you hike the really big ones?
17:51:40 [ajh]
hike, ice climb, technical freeclimb, aid climb, ski, etc.
17:51:56 [BrianFreud]
always tended to stay with the smaller ones myself - Killington's probally the tallest I climbed
17:52:07 [ajh]
Mostly under 10K though, but that's been just because that's where I've been.
17:56:28 [ajh]
Oh if there's existing album art in a directory will this embed it?
17:56:37 [BrianFreud]
into the files?
17:56:41 [ajh]
yeah
17:56:46 [ajh]
if embed is checked
17:57:03 [BrianG]
not that i've noticed
17:57:04 [BrianFreud]
yeah - if you set it right, it'll embed if not already there, and also save to file in dir
17:57:15 [BrianG]
are you talking about picard?
17:57:20 [ajh]
yeah I checked both, just doing a no-tags run to fix art.
17:57:20 [BrianFreud]
yes
17:57:30 [BrianFreud]
wait
17:57:37 [BrianFreud]
so you're running no tags, but you want to embed?
17:57:46 [BrianFreud]
remember, the embedded art IS a tag...
17:57:51 [ajh]
I've got embed checked.
17:58:08 [BrianFreud]
right, but you turned off one level higher than embed
17:58:10 [ajh]
I don't want it messing up tags I don't have time to check each of 4000 of them.
17:58:22 [ajh]
OK I'll have to run something else to embed after then I guess.
17:58:28 [ajh]
no biggie, good to know.
17:58:52 [BrianFreud]
it should work, if you turn off removing existing tags, turn on tagging, and turn on embed
17:59:00 [BrianFreud]
may still have some other tags get written tho
17:59:07 [ajh]
yeah, there are a lot.
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17:59:47 [BrianFreud]
might be worth suggesting to luks, a no-tag embed mode
18:02:13 [ajh]
is submitting working again more reliably? Got a crapload of them to do.
18:03:09 [ajh]
again, having a full album sort mode would have turned what I'm doing into a 2 minute job, not an hour.
18:03:15 [BrianFreud]
been rather solid for a few days for me
18:03:45 [ajh]
ok, cool.
18:04:06 [ajh]
still missing about 300 inserts though, spent the week going through everything looking for them.
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18:11:44 [catgroove]
ruaok: here?
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* ruaok shakes his head
18:12:08 [ruaok]
not present.
18:12:22 [catgroove]
:(
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18:40:13 [ajh]
sigh, need some way to lock the cover art.
18:40:14 [warp]
catgroove: some people from the mailinglist have started this page: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/CapitalizationStandard/JapaneseArtistsException
18:40:45 [ajh]
so far picard is getting worse matches than itunes did.
18:42:58 [warp]
catgroove: i've already added a few bits, but would appreciate it if you could take a look too.
18:46:00 [warp]
(and anyone else interested ofcourse ;)
18:57:18 [ajh]
I should probably just scan all my own artwork.
19:03:11 [catgroove]
* catgroove ♪ Rammstein - Amerika (ChroniX Aggression - Loud & Clear - www.chronixradio.com) (0:0-1) ♪
19:03:12 [catgroove]
:D
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19:26:30 [Muz]
FauxFaux, http://gallery.xcski.com/d/20751-2/little_hoarse.jpg
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20:27:13 [murdos]
hello ;-)
20:28:17 [Muz]
Where is John Connor?
20:32:18 [Kerensky97]
I think the terminator got him
20:41:35 [cooperaa_]
how's it going folks?
20:42:28 [cooperaa_]
nvm - back to starcraft ;)
20:44:14 [BrianG]
this happen to anyone else? http://www.gurtler.net/picardtitlesasalbums.png
20:44:24 [ruaok]
* ruaok makes the L gesture on the forehead towards cooperaa_
20:44:31 [cooperaa_]
:)
20:44:44 [cooperaa_]
dude, it's one of those things you have to do before you die I'm sure :)
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20:45:36 [cooperaa_]
ruaok: I brought up weighted voting on the mailing list the other day... I don't suppose you saw it?
20:46:17 [ruaok]
I haven't caught up on that yet. real life has interfered in the last couple of days. I'll catch up over the weekend.
20:46:46 [ruaok]
* ruaok is showing his burning man art project at a local bike art show
20:46:49 [cooperaa_]
okay, no worries was just curious... I think it's an idea that we should seriously consider
20:47:01 [cooperaa_]
oh neat!
20:47:40 [Muz]
Weighted voting sounds familiar
20:47:50 [cooperaa_]
ya someone made up a wiki page
20:47:51 [Muz]
Much like something I may have said in a sleep deprived state several weeks ago
20:47:53 [Muz]
:O
20:47:59 [Muz]
* Muz would grep logs, but can't be fucked :)
20:48:11 [cooperaa_]
I think it'd be awesome
20:48:20 [Muz]
It'd help
20:48:29 [cooperaa_]
based of edits/votes/activity/length of membership,e tc
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20:48:34 [Muz]
Precisely
20:48:40 [Muz]
That's what triggered the idea forme
20:48:59 [cooperaa_]
we could implement quasi-AutoEditor-ness using it
20:49:18 [cooperaa_]
edits could pass after receiving a certain "weight" of votes in either the yes or no direction
20:49:42 [cooperaa_]
this would protect data from being deleted as a new group of users couldn't rally enough weight to pass the removal edits
21:03:36 [Muz]
* Muz likes audio editing across 3 monitors
21:05:39 [BrianFreud]
BrianG: Looks like somewhere in transmission the datafeed got screwed - it still happen if you try to refresh those release?
21:06:50 [BrianG]
i refreshed them before taking the screenshot
21:06:53 [BrianG]
same thing
21:07:09 [BrianFreud]
hmmm, same thing if you switch to the uk mirror?
21:07:17 [BrianFreud]
cooperaa_: I like the idea. Maybe, also, if there were some way to increase/decrease certain classes of releases per editor? (Japanese, Soundtracks, Classical, etc - those that are somewhat more complex and detailed?)
21:07:37 [BrianFreud]
power to edit those special classes, I mean
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21:08:15 [cooperaa_]
BrianFreud: I think we could make it very complex and have an editor's weight change based on which artist they are editing
21:08:22 [BrianG]
yes
21:08:31 [BrianG]
uk.mb.org?
21:08:33 [cooperaa_]
if it's someone they've edited often
21:09:12 [BrianG]
that can't be right :)
21:10:26 [BrianG]
BrianFreud: yes. it's wanting to look up the album G; a; s; f; a; c; e
21:11:34 [BrianFreud]
Well, take bootlegs, for example. Not to brag, but I have become somewhat expert on the LBS and LiveTrackStyle proposals. But if we switch to classical, I'm currently clueless. It starts to smack a little of "genres", but some way to mark an add as "what type of release is this?" (bootleg, regular, classical, japanese, etc) - so not editing power per artist, but per release category "grouping"
21:11:56 [BrianFreud]
then you could subscribe to all "classical" releases, so none can slip through, etc
21:13:22 [BrianFreud]
BrianG: try this - something I've found works when picard gets locked up like that... move one track back to the left side, open the details view on it, switch to the advanced tags tab, and delete all the MB tags. Then try doing a auto-lookup, and see if the release loads correctly
21:17:28 [BrianFreud]
BrianG: www.uk.musicbrainz.org
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http://www.gurtler.net/details.png
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22:07:13 [catgroove]
warpen: i'll take a look at it tomorrow
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22:07:18 [catgroove]
for now, of to bed
22:07:21 [catgroove]
night all
22:07:26 [ruaok]
natta!
22:07:27 [catgroove]
catgroove is now known as nightgroove
22:07:31 [nightgroove]
natta ru :D
22:09:50 [ruaok]
that reminds me, I gotta buy some plane tickets.
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23:23:23 [Muz]
I need your clothes, your boots and your motorcycle.
23:25:24 [SerialNumber^]
Haven't got the last one and my right boot is kinda broken.
23:26:43 [Muz]
Your clothes. give them to me.
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23:29:58 [Muz]
Hmmm, time to go on a tagging spree me thinks. Cooped up on a Friday night, bored, and past midnight
23:37:38 [chillware]
terminator 2?
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