IRC log of musicbrainz-devel on 2013-04-03

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00:30:22 [bitmap]
one more favor…if someone can transclude http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/MusicBrainz_Picard so the new download shows up
00:30:34 [ianmcorvidae]
sure
00:30:37 [ianmcorvidae]
* ianmcorvidae goes to do that
00:31:34 [ianmcorvidae]
done
00:31:58 [bitmap]
thanks!
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06:58:16 [nikki]
now the wiki is not only failing to finish loading for me, the styling is all messed up too :/
07:18:50 [nikki]
ocharles: please rerun failed events
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10:49:09 [alastairp]
a question about tags -
10:49:16 [alastairp]
only the person who added one can remove it?
10:49:21 [alastairp]
can you see who added it?
10:51:25 [Freso]
I don't think you can directly.
10:54:40 [JonnyJD]
There is only one thing you can do against "bad" tagging: lots of "good" tagging.
10:56:56 [alastairp]
right, but I guess it's in the schema, so if it comes to it I can query directly
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13:01:15 [warp]
hello!
13:03:06 [reosarevok]
Buenos días, señor Alabeo
13:08:28 [warp]
>_<
13:09:08 [reosarevok]
:D
13:54:10 [alastairp]
hmm.
13:54:40 [alastairp]
changed some instrument rels with relationship editor, it says edits are in the queue, they're not
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14:03:12 [reosarevok]
huh
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14:03:14 [reosarevok]
That sounds weird
14:03:28 [reosarevok]
alastairp, do you mean they've applied? Or they just didn't work?
14:03:44 [alastairp]
it doesn't look like they've applied
14:04:23 [alastairp]
http://musicbrainz.org/release/54ab1640-8479-4b7e-bb35-b40c30176501 I changed 'violins' to 'violin', by editing the instrument rel, deleting violins, and adding violin
14:04:40 [alastairp]
as opposed to, for example, deleting the instrument rel and adding another one
14:04:44 [alastairp]
I wonder if it's an edgecase
14:05:13 [reosarevok]
Let me try
14:05:46 [reosarevok]
http://musicbrainz.org/artist/5459fa4f-fc7c-425d-aaca-297920b62c32/open_edits
14:05:50 [reosarevok]
They are queued
14:05:56 [reosarevok]
Just... not in the queue for the release
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14:05:59 [reosarevok]
Which is stupid
14:06:14 [alastairp]
yeah, I just saw that
14:06:17 [reosarevok]
Wonder if we have a ticket for that already. nikki? :)
14:06:23 [alastairp]
not yellow, and not in the release list
14:06:29 [alastairp]
I found them too :)
14:07:05 [hawke_1]
Yeah, pretty sure recording AR changes don’t show up on release open edits
14:07:12 [reosarevok]
Yeah, the list of relationships in the release doesn't get highlighted when inline
14:07:15 [hawke_1]
(picking up the conversation in the middle)
14:07:16 [reosarevok]
But they apparently do at the bottom
14:07:25 [alastairp]
it kind of makes sense - they /are/ recording edits
14:07:30 [reosarevok]
Wonder if there's a ticket
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14:07:31 [alastairp]
but I changed them from the release screen
14:07:41 [reosarevok]
alastairp: they're something someone who has the release would certainly be interested in though
14:07:52 [alastairp]
true
14:08:05 [hawke_1]
They affect the release though, so definitely should be listed…
14:08:06 [reosarevok]
So they really should appear there (so that they're informed of them if subscribing to a collection with that releease)
14:08:30 [alastairp]
yeah, I just clicked through to the recording and it all looks like I expect it to (yellow, in the edit list)
14:12:00 [reosarevok]
alastairp or hawke_1, feel like adding the two tickets? They might be duplicates but I can't find them and nikki isn't here to help (and my lunch is waiting for me :) )
14:12:14 [alastairp]
there's 2?
14:12:20 [reosarevok]
Well
14:12:20 [alastairp]
highlighting, open edits?
14:12:22 [reosarevok]
Yeah
14:12:35 [reosarevok]
Highlighting on inline display + open recording edits
14:12:42 [alastairp]
i'll do it
14:12:45 [reosarevok]
Thanks! :)
15:27:43 [CatCat]
* CatCat wonders what exactly alastairp is goign to query for tags and who amde
15:27:56 [CatCat]
iirc you could apreviusly see who had tagged what
15:28:00 [CatCat]
but it was removed becasue of some stuff
15:28:05 [alastairp]
right
15:28:21 [alastairp]
specifically, for the project we're working on, we use tags to store additional data
15:28:38 [CatCat]
(i am actually part, becasue i tiook it up with rob whne soem guy had sent me an email abotu a tag i had set that he .. to say the least "disagred" with)
15:28:42 [alastairp]
but some people are not following our informal standard, so we want to tell them to fix the syntax of the cards
15:28:51 [alastairp]
yeah, that's reasonable
15:29:02 [alastairp]
but the alternative would be to let people remove/change existing tags
15:29:19 [CatCat]
i honestly think that there should be an ability to edit change soem tags
15:29:23 [CatCat]
i see why not but
15:29:27 [alastairp]
though, to stop abuse it'd get difficult
15:29:36 [CatCat]
like we have rel editors and translusion ones
15:29:50 [CatCat]
soem peopel shoudl be given the rights to remove compltely junk tags
15:29:59 [CatCat]
(like the ones that are the idd or whatever)
15:31:05 [CatCat]
and the edit shoudl be voted on obvs
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19:36:07 [Freso]
I don't see why people aren't simply just only using their own tags.
19:37:14 [hawke_1]
Freso: because there’s a lot of stuff to tag.
19:37:21 [hawke_1]
why not take advantage of the good tags?
19:37:49 [warp]
* warp tags Freso
19:38:24 [Freso]
hawke_1: Because a good tag to you might be a completely junk tag to someone else.
19:38:52 [hawke_1]
It all depends on what the purpose is.
19:39:00 [hawke_1]
I find that the frequently-applied tags are generally good.
19:39:15 [hawke_1]
And it’s better than trying to decide genres by myself. :-)
19:39:16 [Freso]
So, tag more. :)
19:39:33 [teuf]
is jira having issues? it won't let me login nor send me a password reminder
19:39:59 [teuf]
oh I haven't checked one of my inboxes though
19:40:12 [teuf]
nope nothing there
19:44:41 [teuf]
ah, there now, sorry for the noise
19:48:23 [CatCat]
in that, plz tag uriah heep with usefull tags pls
20:01:46 [nikki]
ocharles: ping ping ping please tell ian how to rerun failed events. I know you want to automate it, but it's not being automated right now
20:02:28 [CatCat]
bikki pingpongdingbats
20:02:31 [CatCat]
ersj
20:02:36 [CatCat]
nikki pingpongdingbats
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21:09:59 [ruaok]
* ruaok got done recycling a pile of servers.
21:10:05 [ianmcorvidae]
whoo
21:10:15 [ruaok]
its kinda sad to just dispose of them in a giant dumper.
21:10:25 [ruaok]
thanks for your valiant service, bender and catbus!
21:32:14 [nikki]
aww catbus :(
21:36:02 [CatCat]
aw man why a trow out?!
21:36:14 [CatCat]
no recycle?
21:36:19 [CatCat]
tsk ruaok
21:38:32 [warp]
CatCat: ruaok tried to recycle them, but no-one wants old servers anymore.
21:40:06 [hawke_1]
Well, no one *local* wants old servers…
21:40:22 [ianmcorvidae]
shipping them wouldn't be worth it, heh
21:40:56 [nikki]
wouldn't that be reusing, not recycling?
21:42:24 [warp]
ah, I don't know where the "giant dumper" will take the servers.
21:43:38 [reosarevok]
To server heaven :p
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22:37:48 [reosarevok]
hah
22:38:12 [reosarevok]
ruaok, do you want to ask some people to give us credit? :p
22:38:12 [reosarevok]
http://keoby.com/label/19431/link#.UVyvNpNTBNc
22:38:27 [reosarevok]
(another nikki find :p)
22:42:07 [ruaok]
CatCat: all the servers went into electronics recycling.
23:14:16 [CatCat]
\o/
23:14:34 [ianmcorvidae]
ocharles, warp: please review https://bitbucket.org/metabrainz/musicbrainz-server/pull-request/88/mbs-6091-lucene-40-added-a-operator-that/diff ASAP, I'd like to hotfix it if possible
23:14:34 [mb-chat-logger]
http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-6091
23:14:40 [ianmcorvidae]
ocharles, warp: also, see email for why :)
23:15:40 [CatCat]
* CatCat is happy about the electronics ♲
23:16:03 [CatCat]
and yes i did this only so to be able to use an unicode
23:16:07 [CatCat]
23:17:05 [CatCat]
☃雪☄☿♆♝☮☭☯
23:17:10 [CatCat]
anyway, natta
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