IRC log of musicbrainz-devel on 2013-05-06
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- 00:03:14 [kepstin_]
- strange, I have a CD that picard's disc lookup is saying has 12 tracks, but it only has 11 audio tracks, and track 12 is a data track at the end of the disk (i think)
- 00:03:29 [kepstin_]
- so I wonder why it's being picked up :/
- 00:03:45 [kepstin_]
- * kepstin_ thinks this 'track 12' might be related to some copy protection on the disc
- 00:04:31 [kepstin_]
- the issue, of course, is that I have to add a track 12 on musicbrainz to attach the cd toc
- 00:04:41 [kepstin_]
- and i'm not sure that the cd toc i'm getting is valid :/
- 00:05:13 [kepstin_]
- it's not a mountable data track that linux recognizes, either.
- 00:06:20 [Abusme]
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- 00:08:27 [nikki]
- kepstin_: possibly because of http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/LIB-7?
- 00:08:44 [kepstin_]
- this disk doesn't have any real data tracks
- 00:09:10 [nikki]
- hm
- 00:09:26 [kepstin_]
- eac picks it up as a data track, and displays it - but doesn't let me do anything with it.
- 00:09:45 [kepstin_]
- linux doesn't see any data portion on the disk, and gives an I/O error reading it
- 00:09:59 [kepstin_]
- so my conclusion is that it's an artifact of some copy-protection method
- 00:10:54 [nikki]
- I would try various command line things that can print the toc and see what they say
- 00:11:01 [nikki]
- I forget which one I used most of hte time
- 00:12:25 [kepstin_]
- https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5522678/raw is what EAC gives me
- 00:12:37 [kepstin_]
- says the last track is about 30mb in the gui
- 00:13:32 [nikki]
- huh, so it detects that it's not audio or whatever
- 00:14:30 [kepstin_]
- https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5522688/raw is the toc from the log; that matches the offsets that are in the toc that picard generates
- 00:14:50 [kepstin_]
- which is https://musicbrainz.org/cdtoc/attach?id=RWcrYRPfBh_FoQBkOn2FsBFkI7s-&tracks=12&toc=1+12+313011+150+34362+52225+75452+85055+119787+151660+176132+209022+238667+259370+299825&tport=8000
- 00:16:50 [kepstin_]
- * kepstin_ tries running cdrdao on it
- 00:19:32 [kepstin_]
- cdrdao says that it's a second session
- 00:19:43 [kepstin_]
- so picard should be ignoring it :/
- 00:21:58 [kepstin_]
- https://gist.github.com/kepstin/92ef3e486c38154bb021/raw is what cdrdao finds (i've stuck the output from both sessions in there, with a separator)
- 00:23:25 [kepstin_]
- strange that it's mode 2; a real data track would be in mode 1 to get error correction (mode 2 has reduced error correction for additional space, used by e.g. vcds)
- 00:24:38 [nikki]
- huh
- 00:24:48 [nikki]
- I'd enter a ticket for libdiscid
- 00:32:49 [kepstin_]
- this is probably http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/LIB-9
- 00:33:30 [kepstin_]
- the PS/PS2 ones are suspicious, because I think those are also mode 2 data tracks
- 00:34:45 [CallerNo6]
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- 00:35:41 [JonnyJD]
- yes, please enter a ticket for libdiscid. Can also be a new one. If possible, also try what libdiscid from the data-tracks branch does (this is supposed to fix LIB-7)
- 00:35:42 [mb-chat-logger]
- http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/LIB-7
- 00:37:19 [JonnyJD]
- * JonnyJD is afk now anyways
- 00:37:43 [warp]
- reosarevok: respond on melange!
- 00:37:54 [reosarevok]
- warp: I did!
- 00:38:00 [JonnyJD]
- oh and it is important on which platforms this was tested, since there might be minor differences in multisession detection
- 00:38:12 [reosarevok]
- Unless someone *else* commented and it didn't mail me
- 00:38:16 [kepstin_]
- hmm, the data-tracks branch doesn't build :/
- 00:38:27 [kepstin_]
- ../src/.libs/libdiscid.so: undefined reference to `mb_disc_read_unportable'
- 00:38:50 [warp]
- reosarevok: oh sorry then. I got an e-mail (from melange) that bitmap had responded to my comment on melange, but didn't see a similar e-mail regarding your proposal.
- 00:39:01 [JonnyJD]
- hm.. what platform are you trying?
- 00:39:01 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok makes sure it posted
- 00:39:05 [kepstin_]
- JonnyJD: linux
- 00:39:23 [nikki]
- I can see reosarevok's response
- 00:39:30 [reosarevok]
- Seems it did
- 00:39:34 [kepstin_]
- (that error is when linking the 'discid' executable)
- 00:39:39 [reosarevok]
- Weird that it didn't mail though :/
- 00:40:23 [kepstin_]
- JonnyJD: hmm, I built that with autoconf; maybe it's missing a few files. I'll try again with cmake
- 00:40:33 [warp]
- reosarevok: yup, I see your response.
- 00:40:59 [JonnyJD]
- not sure if cmake works at all in that branch, but something must have worked back then..
- 00:41:25 [kepstin_]
- cmake works; looks like luks changed some stuff and updated cmake, but not automake
- 00:41:41 [kepstin_]
- that branch gives me the expected 11 tracks
- 00:41:45 [warp]
- reosarevok: still a vague response :P. you should have just said 40 hrs/week :)
- 00:41:53 [reosarevok]
- warp: but it'd be a lie!
- 00:42:02 [JonnyJD]
- cool, then I'll fix that for autobuild. (updating that branch is on my todo..)
- 00:42:14 [reosarevok]
- it might be 40, or 20, or 80 - it just depends on how much time it needs :p
- 00:42:29 [warp]
- reosarevok: anything which makes it easy to verify that you have >32 hours/week available for GSOC.
- 00:42:47 [JonnyJD]
- kepstin_: cool. So either open a ticket or just add some info to LIB-7. Including info that this is fixed with the data-tracks branch
- 00:42:49 [mb-chat-logger]
- http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/LIB-7
- 00:43:17 [nikki]
- warp: you mean you haven't noticed that reosarevok pretty much lives at mb yet? :P
- 00:43:25 [kepstin_]
- JonnyJD: huh, strange; it works if i build libdiscid from master, too
- 00:43:28 [reosarevok]
- er, doesn't the fact that it's school holiday, my only job is for MetaBrainz and you know how long it takes kinda show that? :)
- 00:44:01 [warp]
- reosarevok: from your response it wasn't clear that metabrainz would be your only job, I assumed it was, but I don't want to assume things.
- 00:44:01 [kepstin_]
- but it fails with my system libdiscid 0.5.0
- 00:44:12 [JonnyJD]
- kepstin_: so what version is it that doesn't work then? Picard should ship 0.2.1 for mac and I thought 0.2.2 for windows (and the system libdiscid for linux)
- 00:44:23 [kepstin_]
- hmm, i dunno what my picard is using.
- 00:44:26 [warp]
- reosarevok: well, from your original response I mean.
- 00:44:32 [kepstin_]
- i have git picard, let me check...
- 00:45:20 [kepstin_]
- looks like picard's using the system library
- 00:45:24 [warp]
- reosarevok: anyway, thanks for clarifying :)
- 00:45:32 [kepstin_]
- (must be dlopening it, there's no so linked to it...)
- 00:45:32 [reosarevok]
- np
- 00:46:11 [JonnyJD]
- kepstin_: hm possibly testing against another version you think you do? Did you try ./discid?
- 00:46:25 [kepstin_]
- JonnyJD: I was using ./discid in the build dir to check.
- 00:46:30 [kepstin_]
- let me try the 0.5.0 tagged version
- 00:46:45 [JonnyJD]
- I don't remember any TOC changes in the last versions.
- 00:47:11 [kepstin_]
- hmm. the 0.5.0 tagged version gives the expected 11 tracks
- 00:47:36 [kepstin_]
- ... I just tried again in picard, and it gave me 11 tracks this time
- 00:47:43 [kepstin_]
- that makes no sense :/
- 00:47:54 [kepstin_]
- * kepstin_ didn't change any installed stuff or even restart picard
- 00:48:05 [JonnyJD]
- no, that makes sense. I actually try to read a disc twice in isrcsubmit before submitting a new ID
- 00:48:46 [JonnyJD]
- That is, the first read after the disc is inserted sometimes gives wrong results, especially for discs with data tracks
- 00:49:35 [kepstin_]
- hmm. I guess maybe logic to handle that should be added to libdiscid?
- 00:49:49 [JonnyJD]
- I only had that when the disc is inserted into the drive fresh.
- 00:50:09 [kepstin_]
- yeah, i'm doing a bunch of disc swapping and ripping atm :)
- 00:50:10 [JonnyJD]
- Hm, that would mean reading the disc twice in read()
- 00:50:35 [kepstin_]
- JonnyJD: reading the toc wasn't really slow, tho, iirc
- 00:51:07 [JonnyJD]
- yes, which brings me to the question why reading it again does make a difference. Since the TOC is actually cached.
- 00:52:07 [JonnyJD]
- Possibly the read already returns after the first session is read completely. Just wating a bit after inserting the disc also helps.
- 00:53:08 [JonnyJD]
- I'll open a ticket and do some tests. Maybe we can do that without actually taking twice as long.
- 00:53:29 [kepstin_]
- * kepstin_ wonders if attempting to do a raw read to get the toc might help
- 00:53:34 [kepstin_]
- if that's even possible :/
- 00:55:28 [JonnyJD]
- That would be possible, but I guess just reading the toc (discarding it) and then reading what the user requested (could be the TOC) already helps.
- 00:55:38 [kepstin_]
- arg, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Fu9zX7H6vM came up on shuffle. now i'll have that stuck in my head for hours :/
- 00:56:07 [JonnyJD]
- It's not that the data is wrong, it looks just like the data is temporary incomplete.
- 00:57:17 [kepstin_]
- so, just a delay before the second session info is properly read?
- 00:57:40 [kepstin_]
- * kepstin_ wonders why the 12th track showed up immediately, then.
- 01:00:02 [JonnyJD]
- I guess the driver knows already that there are 12 tracks, this is what is saved at the front of the disc? (not sure right now) and only later knows what the 12th track is
- 01:00:20 [JonnyJD]
- kepstin_: http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/LIB-44
- 01:04:30 [nikki]
- hmm
- 01:04:44 [nikki]
- I've definitely seen people talk about that before but I dunno where :(
- 01:07:21 [JonnyJD]
- Well, I'll just have to do some testing. Might be a bit difficult to test, since this is a timing issue (if you wait long enough after the insertion, the problem doesn't exist) and I don't know where/how to empty that cache programmatically.
- 01:10:46 [kepstin_]
- * kepstin_ goes back to scanning stuff
- 01:10:56 [JonnyJD]
- * JonnyJD really goes to sleep now
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- 02:30:05 [reosarevok]
- Can anyone help this guy? http://forums.musicbrainz.org/viewtopic.php?id=4253
- 02:30:49 [reosarevok]
- Or this one http://forums.musicbrainz.org/viewtopic.php?id=4254
- 02:31:19 [nikki]
- ...
- 02:31:33 [nikki]
- why oh why would you do that
- 02:32:04 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok has no idea
- 02:32:10 [reosarevok]
- If you mean the xml guy
- 02:32:14 [nikki]
- yes, I do
- 02:35:28 [nikki]
- replied anyway...
- 02:36:55 [ianmcorvidae]
- the BODY guy it may have to do with it failing to resolve the blog, that seems to be where it's erroring
- 02:37:28 [nikki]
- yeah I was wondering that
- 02:37:35 [ianmcorvidae]
- and someone the other day was having search issues when it failed to resolved search.musicbrainz.org
- 02:37:38 [ianmcorvidae]
- so
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- 05:04:38 [MBJenkins]
- Project full-import build #35: SUCCESS in 4 hr 3 min: http://ci.musicbrainz.org/job/full-import/35/
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- 08:10:35 [ZaphodBeeblebrox]
- oh god, my uncle can come to the vet with me
- 08:10:38 [ZaphodBeeblebrox]
- * ZaphodBeeblebrox is relived
- 08:42:30 [ruaok]
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- 09:03:02 [ruaok]
- nikki: you awake?
- 09:04:41 [nikki]
- apparently
- 09:07:31 [nikki]
- * nikki wonders what ruaok wants
- 09:07:40 [ruaok]
- hi!
- 09:07:49 [nikki]
- moin
- 09:07:49 [ruaok]
- IPI numbers. where do we source them from?
- 09:08:01 [ruaok]
- apparently they are supposed to be confidential. :)
- 09:08:56 [nikki]
- I think our editors usually take them from work databases
- 09:09:44 [ruaok]
- like the "CISAC ISWC-Net portal"?
- 09:09:52 [nikki]
- yeah
- 09:10:03 [ruaok]
- k.
- 09:10:12 [ruaok]
- thats going to be fun to deal with. :)
- 09:10:19 [ruaok]
- * ruaok gets his dancing shoes out
- 09:11:30 [nikki]
- heh, gema's search lets you search by ipi
- 09:12:35 [nikki]
- the italian one too
- 09:17:02 [ruaok]
- and of course all of these databases have a "you may look, but don't touch our data" policy, no?
- 09:21:08 [Ben\Sput]
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- 09:21:32 [nikki]
- probably :/
- 09:21:46 [nikki]
- of the ones on https://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Work#External_databases iswcnet, sacem, gema, siae, sgae, suisa, ascap and sesac have them
- 09:22:00 [nikki]
- bmi doesn't load for me, the asian ones don't have them
- 09:28:38 [ruaok]
- someone asked me the other day why I didn't move back to germany.
- 09:28:47 [ruaok]
- I said, I wanted to learn Spanish.
- 09:28:58 [nikki]
- heh, in barcelona?
- 09:29:03 [ruaok]
- but then I recalled that there was a more pithy response for music geeks.
- 09:29:07 [ruaok]
- Gema & GEZ!
- 09:29:25 [nikki]
- I think they changed the gez thing recently
- 09:29:37 [ruaok]
- nikki: yeah, learning spanish here it tricky. ignoring catalan is going to be hard.
- 09:29:57 [ruaok]
- oh, what changed on GEZ? Did they magically decide to stop impersonating nazis?
- 09:30:47 [nikki]
- probably not
- 09:31:03 [nikki]
- I think they just made everyone pay anyway or something
- 09:31:09 [nikki]
- Mineo might know more than me :P
- 09:31:31 [ruaok]
- make even more people pay? didn't they already strong arm everyone into paying?
- 09:35:16 [nikki]
- well, I guess they did now :P
- 09:36:09 [ruaok]
- I like living here. MTV USA was the only site so far who said that shit wont work well since I am in espana.
- 09:36:14 [ruaok]
- youtube works great.
- 09:38:27 [nikki]
- youtube works for me too, now >:D
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- 10:31:36 [Mineo]
- yeah, rundfunkgebühren have to be paid by every household now or something like that
- 10:41:50 [ruaok]
- ha, thats awesome.:)
- 10:41:56 [ruaok]
- warp: you up yet>
- 10:41:57 [ruaok]
- ?
- 10:42:59 [reosarevok]
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- 10:46:01 [ruaok]
- moin reosarevok
- 10:47:44 [reosarevok]
- moin
- 10:47:45 [ruaok]
- Mineo: have you seen these?
- 10:47:46 [ruaok]
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:MusicBrainz_artist_id_same_as_Wikidata
- 10:47:47 [ruaok]
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:MusicBrainz_artist_id_different_from_Wikidata
- 10:47:48 [ruaok]
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:MusicBrainz_artist_id_not_in_Wikidata
- 10:47:55 [reosarevok]
- Yep, he has :)
- 10:48:16 [reosarevok]
- legoktm showed them to us at some point
- 10:49:00 [ruaok]
- ok, good.
- 10:49:16 [ruaok]
- the CTO from wikimedia US just pinged me with them and I wanted to pass them on.
- 10:49:22 [reosarevok]
- heh
- 10:50:13 [reosarevok]
- nice
- 11:14:23 [warp]
- ruaok: yes, I am now
- 11:14:36 [ruaok]
- moin
- 11:14:57 [warp]
- ruaok: you were asking at 5:40am, which even for me is a bit early.
- 11:15:22 [warp]
- goodmorning :)
- 11:15:36 [ruaok]
- I saw your comment on mmjc's schedule. I know he recently fixed that schedule, so I have no idea if your comment came before or after the schedule update.
- 11:16:05 [ruaok]
- I think it came after. And having the UI left for the very last thing seems troublesome.
- 11:16:15 [ruaok]
- that should probably come sooner in the game.
- 11:16:25 [ianmcorvidae]
- * ianmcorvidae blearily appears as I wait for my airport shuttle
- 11:17:02 [warp]
- ruaok: yes, the schedule is still wrong in my eyes.
- 11:17:23 [ruaok]
- ianmcorvidae: moin ian. thanks for taking one for the team
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- 11:17:41 [ruaok]
- warp: ok. I'll throw out another comment.
- 11:17:47 [ruaok]
- marcooliveira: hi! greetings from BCN!
- 11:17:54 [warp]
- ruaok: it's divided into internal API / external API / UI / etc.. whereas it should be per feature, and each feature should be implemented in all those layers as it gets added.
- 11:18:13 [ruaok]
- agreed
- 11:18:14 [warp]
- so that he has something up and running in the first two or three weeks.
- 11:18:27 [warp]
- (and then iterate)
- 11:19:05 [ianmcorvidae]
- * ianmcorvidae looks at the schedule to see when I can go nap :P
- 11:19:17 [warp]
- goodmorning ian :)
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- 11:28:48 [mjjc]
- hi all
- 11:29:07 [ruaok]
- hi mjjc
- 11:29:20 [ruaok]
- I just allowed proposal modifications on your proposal.
- 11:30:09 [mjjc]
- oh, okay. I was about to ask for it :D
- 11:30:24 [mjjc]
- and now I got a mail with your comment
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- 11:43:39 [warp]
- ruaok: both ianmcorvidae and I want to mentor bitmap.
- 11:44:06 [warp]
- (if we accept that proposal)
- 11:48:06 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok wonders if people will ever realise they don't need to +1 RFVs
- 11:48:12 [nikki]
- no
- 11:48:23 [warp]
- veto!
- 12:07:56 [Ben\Sput]
- reosarevok: i was just thinking exactly the same thing :P
- 12:08:09 [Ben\Sput]
- i've only noticed it happening recently
- 12:12:51 [ZaphodBeeblebrox]
- what is +1 RFV?
- 12:13:04 [ZaphodBeeblebrox]
- plus one recuest for veto?
- 12:13:17 [ZaphodBeeblebrox]
- why don't people need to to dthat?
- 12:14:13 [reosarevok]
- Well
- 12:14:25 [reosarevok]
- To be able to *go* to RFV, a proposal needs a +1
- 12:14:31 [reosarevok]
- Once it's there, it will pass if it's not vetoed
- 12:14:38 [reosarevok]
- So there's just no point on +1ing it
- 12:14:42 [reosarevok]
- It'll pass anyway! :)
- 12:17:28 [ZaphodBeeblebrox]
- oh i thoguht "RFV" meant that it was contingued and needed someone to decide either if it was acepted or rejected
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- 12:52:58 [ruaok]
- ocharles: you about?
- 12:53:12 [ruaok]
- ianmcorvidae: you're on your way to LA, right?
- 12:53:45 [ruaok]
- * ruaok ponders what to do with the music bottle gsoc application.
- 12:54:16 [ruaok]
- mainly, I'm trying to figure out how many slots to request.
- 12:57:38 [reosarevok]
- Is there some big problem if we request 4 and end up filling 3?
- 12:58:27 [ruaok]
- not really, no.
- 12:58:43 [reosarevok]
- Then why not just request 4?
- 12:58:49 [ruaok]
- I think I will do that
- 12:58:54 [ruaok]
- if I can figure out how.
- 12:59:00 [ruaok]
- * ruaok has clicked a lot of melange links
- 13:00:11 [reosarevok]
- heh
- 13:06:21 [ruaok]
- ok, we need to request a number of slots for "amazing proposals" and a total number of slots.
- 13:06:27 [ruaok]
- 3,4?
- 13:06:30 [ruaok]
- 2,4?
- 13:06:32 [warp]
- that sounds fair
- 13:07:02 [ruaok]
- I think three proposals we have are pretty solid and stand a good chance of succeeding.
- 13:10:56 [ruaok]
- reosarevok: wrt to your project… you and ian have been planning things, right?
- 13:11:10 [ruaok]
- I know Ian is interested in mentoring the RE project.
- 13:11:37 [ruaok]
- AND he had worked with you on areas/places, etc.
- 13:11:40 [reosarevok]
- Whoever ends up being the mentor, I assume most of the talk will be with ian and nikki in our personal channel anyway
- 13:11:50 [ruaok]
- who should mentor whom?
- 13:11:56 [reosarevok]
- So if Ian does the RE then nikki can do mine
- 13:12:27 [reosarevok]
- (we have been looking at areas together, with nikki also giving her views and helping around)
- 13:13:01 [reosarevok]
- So, if Ian does the RE then nikki, and if not Ian, I guess
- 13:18:00 [ruaok]
- ok, some sane baseline for gsoc achieved.
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- can I check when the most recent update to my mirror was?
- 15:23:40 [ruaok]
- alastairp: select * from replication_control;
- 15:24:01 [alastairp]
- hmm. I need to work out what machine our database is on now :-P
- 15:24:22 [ruaok]
- that I can't help you with.
- 15:24:26 [ruaok]
- :-)
- 15:24:38 [ruaok]
- Hmm. It seems that deezer uses our data.
- 15:24:46 [alastairp]
- February 2
- 15:24:47 [alastairp]
- wtf
- 15:24:50 [alastairp]
- I thought I fixed that
- 15:25:03 [ruaok]
- the GOVINDA dude said that someone from deezer said they use our data.
- 15:25:15 [ruaok]
- time to knock on someone's door for some monies.
- 15:25:39 [alastairp]
- sigh, ok. something else on the list..
- 15:27:20 [reosarevok]
- ruaok: http://developer.echonest.com/sandbox/deezer.html
- 15:27:29 [reosarevok]
- I bet the Echo Nest "sells" them our data :p
- 15:27:37 [reosarevok]
- Or something like that
- 15:28:42 [ruaok]
- I'll find a contact at deezer and have a chat with them.
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- 18:11:56 [Freso]
- No meeting today, or just nothing on the agenda?
- 18:15:52 [reosarevok]
- The latter, AFAIK
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- reosarevok has changed the topic to: ⛙ Merge schema changes into master week! | http://musicbrainz.org/#devel | Agenda: reviews
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- 18:59:55 [warp]
- * warp appears.
- 19:00:29 [warp]
- Freso \o/
- 19:00:43 [Freso]
- Hello.
- 19:01:07 [Freso]
- I'll pop off again as soon as ruaok's had a word with me, but he hasn't appeared yet. :/
- 19:01:12 [Freso]
- Oh. 9pm.
- 19:01:19 [Freso]
- Bang anyone?
- 19:01:24 [warp]
- ruaok: ping
- 19:01:26 [ruaok]
- <BANG>
- 19:01:36 [ruaok]
- sorry, we've got friends over.
- 19:01:57 [ruaok]
- who wants to go first for review?
- 19:02:04 [warp]
- ruaok: difficult to get used to meetings in the evening? :)
- 19:02:10 [ruaok]
- I believe that ianmcorvidae is at conference...
- 19:02:12 [ruaok]
- warp: yes.
- 19:02:18 [ruaok]
- time to move them. :-D
- 19:02:24 [warp]
- I can go first
- 19:02:27 [ruaok]
- ok, go
- 19:02:39 [reosarevok]
- ruaok: we need to wait for ianmcorvidae to see the ligth and come to Europe too
- 19:02:44 [reosarevok]
- (to move them I mean)
- 19:02:57 [warp]
- I've spent the entire week on getting the release editor ready for the track identifier changes.
- 19:03:02 [ruaok]
- his sleep schedule is european anyway, so…
- 19:03:33 [reosarevok]
- From what I tested, add release worked fine :)
- 19:03:43 [warp]
- basic adding and editing a release works. adding a disc from an existing tracklist works.
- 19:04:02 [reosarevok]
- Nice
- 19:04:18 [warp]
- adding a release but basing it on an existing release doesn't work yet (it needs to carry over the medium id instead of the tracklist id to the tracklist tab)
- 19:04:28 [warp]
- I expect to fix that tomorrow.
- 19:04:59 [warp]
- there may still be things broken with cdtocs and cdstubs and such, I haven't had enough time to test those yet.
- 19:05:42 [warp]
- I also haven't looked on bitbucket much, and with ocharles at 7digital last week we haven't coordinated the release much
- 19:05:47 [reosarevok]
- heh
- 19:06:00 [warp]
- which should be a priority this week I think :)
- 19:06:01 [reosarevok]
- We have been merging your in-process branches together with our
- 19:06:04 [warp]
- that's it.
- 19:06:10 [reosarevok]
- *+ own
- 19:06:25 [reosarevok]
- And fixed conflicts and the like when we saw them
- 19:06:27 [ruaok]
- warp: I got a bunch of pesky things off my plate today.
- 19:06:33 [warp]
- reosarevok: ah, good.
- 19:06:38 [reosarevok]
- They merge quite decently
- 19:06:41 [ruaok]
- so, I'm hoping to focus on the release starting tomorrow.
- 19:06:54 [warp]
- ruaok: sounds good, I have a feeling we can use your help :)
- 19:07:02 [ruaok]
- oh and I move into my new office at UPF tomorrow. :)
- 19:07:17 [reosarevok]
- So, he'll be focusing on the reactable starting tomorrow
- 19:07:17 [reosarevok]
- :p
- 19:07:20 [ruaok]
- warp: ok, no problem. make a list of things that need my attention and I'll dive in tomorrow.
- 19:07:31 [ruaok]
- reosarevok: ha!
- 19:07:39 [ruaok]
- * ruaok goes next
- 19:07:48 [ruaok]
- last weel was mostly a normal week for me.
- 19:07:57 [ruaok]
- mostly caught up, signed a bunch of contracts.
- 19:07:59 [warp]
- ruaok: we probably need to get a test server with everything for the schema change up and running soon.
- 19:08:12 [ruaok]
- signed spotify, signed a google renewal.
- 19:08:30 [ruaok]
- lots of emails with people who are so pissy that they want to sue us.
- 19:08:34 [ruaok]
- dumbasses.
- 19:08:46 [Ben\Sput]
- still want sto sue us?
- 19:08:51 [Ben\Sput]
- *wants *to
- 19:08:53 [ruaok]
- I did get he clue that deezer might be using our data too. so, its time for me to knock on their door too.
- 19:09:10 [ruaok]
- Ben\Sput: empty threats, thats all.
- 19:09:50 [ruaok]
- but, really life is starting to calm down for me and we're nearly ready to not feel like tourists in this amazing city.
- 19:09:54 [Freso]
- Nice that Spotify is finally signed. :)
- 19:10:05 [ruaok]
- two weeks of eating out most meals is about enough. :)
- 19:10:13 [reosarevok]
- ruaok, madness!
- 19:10:20 [ruaok]
- Freso: *I* signed it. I haven't received the countersigned contracts yet.
- 19:10:21 [reosarevok]
- Eating out in BCN should be great and all that :p
- 19:10:31 [Freso]
- ruaok: Ah. Oh well. :)
- 19:10:36 [ruaok]
- reosarevok: like I said, we're working to get into a normal mode.
- 19:10:40 [reosarevok]
- Does the contract include unlimited plans for us? ;)
- 19:10:45 [ruaok]
- our kitchen is also very minimal.
- 19:10:54 [ruaok]
- 2 plates, 2 bowls, 2 cups, some silverware.
- 19:10:57 [reosarevok]
- heh
- 19:10:57 [ruaok]
- not much to cook with.
- 19:11:02 [reosarevok]
- ikea's calling
- 19:11:08 [ruaok]
- we've been there.
- 19:11:10 [ruaok]
- 3 times.
- 19:11:19 [ruaok]
- but we have container coming with all that shizzle.
- 19:11:26 [ruaok]
- so everything we buy is duplicate.
- 19:11:30 [ruaok]
- ergo a waste of money.
- 19:11:38 [reosarevok]
- Oh, true
- 19:11:43 [ruaok]
- anyways, back to real life.
- 19:11:52 [reosarevok]
- heh, fine
- 19:11:58 [reosarevok]
- did ian send you any notes for today?
- 19:12:05 [ruaok]
- ian is in LA, going to MusicBiz 2013. there are a number of interesting things happening there and a lot of people looking at MB.
- 19:12:27 [ruaok]
- he did not. but, I'm not going to be picky, given that he is flying into hell to talk to the music industry.
- 19:12:32 [reosarevok]
- hah
- 19:12:35 [warp]
- haha
- 19:12:44 [ruaok]
- I just booked tickets to SF Music Tech.
- 19:12:45 [reosarevok]
- Yeah, I asked him not to kill anyone
- 19:12:48 [reosarevok]
- Hope he'll manage
- 19:12:58 [ruaok]
- there are a number of conversations happening there that I *really* need to be there for.
- 19:13:12 [ruaok]
- I wasn't hoping to travel so soon, but this was just too important to ignore.
- 19:13:24 [reosarevok]
- When's this?
- 19:13:28 [ruaok]
- also, I will be in London from the 16 - 20th.
- 19:13:34 [ruaok]
- reosarevok: May 28th.
- 19:13:49 [ruaok]
- I'll be in SF or other parts of cali from the 26th - 3rd or so.
- 19:13:55 [ruaok]
- ok, ocharles you about?
- 19:14:14 [reosarevok]
- ruaok: heh, good that I didn't decide to crash at your place for exams then :)
- 19:14:31 [ruaok]
- reosarevok: my place is open. aleta will be here.
- 19:14:45 [ruaok]
- we'll have people staying here even when we're in london.
- 19:14:48 [reosarevok]
- heh
- 19:14:51 [reosarevok]
- Nice
- 19:14:58 [reosarevok]
- I can make a short review of the areas stuff while ollie comes I guess?
- 19:15:04 [ruaok]
- so, please come on by. we're serious about welcoming visitors.
- 19:15:08 [ruaok]
- reosarevok: please!
- 19:15:18 [reosarevok]
- So, all the basic UI stuff seems to be ready
- 19:15:28 [reosarevok]
- We need to test releases a bit more
- 19:15:33 [reosarevok]
- Merges and the like
- 19:16:16 [reosarevok]
- And improve the ws a bit, unless Ian got to that in the last two days
- 19:16:21 [reosarevok]
- (I've been studying a bit)
- 19:16:45 [reosarevok]
- nikki is working into importing a good number of areas during / just after migration
- 19:16:58 [reosarevok]
- (subdivisions at least, unsure if she's planning to do cities too)
- 19:17:48 [reosarevok]
- As I mentioned, we've been working on a branch that includes both warp's and ocharles' changes, so those should play well with it
- 19:17:52 [warp]
- I saw the dutch provinces and whatever they have here on ecuador on your sandbok, looked good.
- 19:18:01 [reosarevok]
- (of course, it might be that some recent changes break something)
- 19:18:17 [reosarevok]
- (but should be easy to put together anyway)
- 19:18:46 [ruaok]
- fin?
- 19:18:51 [ruaok]
- (aletta?)
- 19:19:12 [reosarevok]
- I think that's it, yeah
- 19:19:15 [ruaok]
- k
- 19:19:24 [ruaok]
- anyone else for review?
- 19:19:31 [ijabz]
- So everything appears to be working building and searching from the new schema, although the only change in output is we now output multiple release events on recording and release searches
- 19:19:49 [Freso]
- Well.
- 19:19:52 [ijabz]
- so I think Im done for the stuff required for schema chnage
- 19:19:56 [Freso]
- I'm busy with RL stuff.
- 19:20:00 [Freso]
- fin
- 19:20:02 [Freso]
- :p
- 19:20:07 [reosarevok]
- Oh, yeah, that reminds me we don't have indexed search for areas, unlike that has changed recently
- 19:20:21 [reosarevok]
- did ianmcorvidae talk to you or anything, ijabz?
- 19:20:32 [ruaok]
- ijabz: so for the release we need to do a simultaneous search and main server release?
- 19:20:46 [reosarevok]
- (direct works fine, so we can always limit it to direct for a while if necessary)
- 19:20:47 [Freso]
- I had admission test for University of Southern Denmark last Wednesday and my Physics exam is in 22 days.
- 19:20:57 [ijabz]
- reosarevok: indexed is now working form the areas table instead of the country tables if thats what you mean
- 19:20:58 [Freso]
- So it's all dangerously close.
- 19:21:09 [reosarevok]
- ijabz: I mean for the area entity itself
- 19:21:18 [Freso]
- I hope and think I'll be able to pop in more after the 28th.
- 19:21:34 [ruaok]
- Freso: its as usual. too close for comfort.
- 19:21:37 [ijabz]
- right, no please raise an new issue
- 19:21:46 [reosarevok]
- ijabz: ok, SEARCH on jira?
- 19:21:54 [ruaok]
- I think next time if people propose X issues, I will toss out X/2 issues.
- 19:22:04 [ruaok]
- we keep biting off too much to chew.
- 19:22:06 [ijabz]
- although I guess that is just one of the many things that can be done bait after schema release,
- 19:22:15 [reosarevok]
- ijabz: also, did ianmcorvidae or me send a PR to mmd-schema in the end?
- 19:22:17 [ijabz]
- yes if that what it is
- 19:22:25 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok can't remember
- 19:23:11 [ruaok]
- ok, done with reviews?
- 19:23:16 [ijabz]
- for ruaok:so yes simultaneous release is rehired, although I guess can make do with old indexes if any problems with db release
- 19:23:25 [ruaok]
- rehired. :)
- 19:23:51 [ijabz]
- Yes, done
- 19:24:13 [ruaok]
- ok, thats an extra level of pita. :-(
- 19:24:28 [ruaok]
- nothing else on the agenda.
- 19:24:37 [ruaok]
- which is… weird.
- 19:24:43 [ruaok]
- what else needs discussing?
- 19:24:49 [ruaok]
- any other concerns?
- 19:25:08 [reosarevok]
- ian wanted to discuss something but he's not here, heh
- 19:25:10 [warp]
- gsoc?
- 19:25:13 [reosarevok]
- (and I forgot what it was :/ )
- 19:25:19 [ruaok]
- warp: good point.
- 19:25:25 [ijabz]
- we almost always have to do a new search release for schema changes, Ive been working on it solidly for the last week
- 19:26:02 [ruaok]
- ijabz: ok. its not really much of a problem. it just stretches the release cycle out by another 24 hours or so.
- 19:26:08 [ruaok]
- ok, gsoc.
- 19:26:25 [ruaok]
- as you may know, we've received far fewer applications this year.
- 19:26:34 [ruaok]
- apparently everyone has received far fewer apps.
- 19:26:45 [ruaok]
- due to some changed rules, but I am not sure I buy that fully.
- 19:26:50 [warp]
- yes, all organizations haved reported far fewer applications on the gsoc mailing list.
- 19:26:53 [ruaok]
- anyways, we received no duplicate applications.
- 19:27:23 [ruaok]
- we received apps for: reviews, places, RE, and music bottle.
- 19:27:33 [ruaok]
- the first three all have apps that are pretty solid.
- 19:27:38 [ruaok]
- two from our ranks.
- 19:27:45 [ruaok]
- one from a noob.
- 19:27:57 [ruaok]
- bitmap and reosarevok are two applicants.
- 19:28:05 [ruaok]
- clearly bitmap is a solid candidate.
- 19:28:13 [ruaok]
- reosarevok is a bit shady, but we might go with him anyway.
- 19:28:13 [warp]
- * warp nods.
- 19:28:19 [warp]
- haha
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- 19:28:37 [ruaok]
- mmjc is the other one, but he's been quite receptive to feedback and I think he will do ok.
- 19:28:39 [reosarevok]
- I think you meant two from our ranks, two from noobs, ruaok :p
- 19:28:46 [reosarevok]
- Or you mean community noobs? :)
- 19:29:00 [reosarevok]
- Anyway, yeah, I'm fairly confident I can do it (or I'd have asked for something easier :) )
- 19:29:01 [ruaok]
- reosarevok: perhaps I am foreshadowing. :(
- 19:29:20 [ruaok]
- yea, in all seriousness, the three applications and applicants look good.
- 19:29:31 [ruaok]
- when it comes to MBO, things go a bit awry.
- 19:29:55 [ruaok]
- I personally dont feel that the MBO camp is organized enough.
- 19:30:06 [ruaok]
- and the application reflects that.
- 19:30:14 [Freso]
- Oh. I just posted a private comment on that one.
- 19:30:21 [Freso]
- But I agree.
- 19:30:42 [ruaok]
- and, as I was saying earlier, if things are not glowing at the beginning of gsoc, they are never going to be golden.
- 19:31:00 [ruaok]
- things go from good to bad. consider yourself lucky if you can keep things good.
- 19:31:21 [warp]
- * warp nods.
- 19:31:31 [ruaok]
- and given that Freso and CallerNo6 are both on the novice side of coding, I dont feel that we have a very strong proposition from which to start.
- 19:31:53 [warp]
- ruaok: I wouldn't mind mentoring a musicbottle project, but this application doesn't seem solid enough.
- 19:32:00 [ruaok]
- my feeling is that we should be kind of ask for only 3 slots and see if we can get our act together for MBO for next yera.
- 19:32:02 [ruaok]
- year
- 19:32:20 [Freso]
- +1
- 19:32:22 [ruaok]
- warp: and you dont feel that it could get there in time?
- 19:32:25 [CallerNo6]
- * CallerNo6 wants warp as a mentor :-)
- 19:32:44 [ruaok]
- it seems that we're all on the same page.
- 19:32:59 [ruaok]
- it might be best for us to accept three proposals and make sure we nail those.
- 19:33:00 [Freso]
- (Not +1 to me being on the "novice side of coding", but to everything else.)
- 19:33:01 [warp]
- ruaok: no, I don't think so.
- 19:33:48 [ruaok]
- Freso: sorry, if I maligned your skillz. I am just not that familiar with what you can do.
- 19:34:00 [warp]
- ruaok: I agree with should stick with the three proposals.
- 19:34:10 [ruaok]
- right then. I think we've got things settled.
- 19:34:12 [Freso]
- ruaok: No worries.
- 19:34:38 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok is quite annoyed nobody proposed anything for geordi
- 19:34:51 [ruaok]
- ok, as it stands I have ian mentoring bitmap, nikki mentoring reo, and myself mentoring mmjc.
- 19:35:06 [ruaok]
- reosarevok: ianmcorvidae was working on someone, but that proposal clearly didn't make it in time. :(
- 19:35:15 [reosarevok]
- Yeah, I know
- 19:35:22 [reosarevok]
- They also didn't look too promising IIRC
- 19:35:24 [reosarevok]
- But meh
- 19:35:30 [ruaok]
- reosarevok: I need to touch base with brewster soon. and I will be in SF before too long.
- 19:35:41 [ruaok]
- I can tell him that if he wants to see more progress he needs to support us more.
- 19:35:49 [ruaok]
- just push that shit onto my plate.
- 19:35:54 [warp]
- :)
- 19:35:54 [ruaok]
- * ruaok is your scape goat
- 19:36:21 [ruaok]
- right then. anything else for gsoc
- 19:36:22 [ruaok]
- ?
- 19:36:50 [ruaok]
- anything else at all?
- 19:36:54 [Freso]
- * Freso would like to touch base on summit real quick
- 19:36:58 [ruaok]
- go!
- 19:37:14 [Freso]
- Well, mostly if you have any news about about possible dates etc. :)
- 19:37:34 [ruaok]
- How about September 21?
- 19:37:48 [reosarevok]
- nikki?
- 19:38:02 [Freso]
- Probably works for me.
- 19:38:15 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok knows nikki wants to go to Hong Kong in September too or something, we should probably see if the date fits her
- 19:38:26 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok is as always probably free every day
- 19:38:40 [Freso]
- (I won't know for sure anything until July, but since that's too late for planning purposes for a lot of people, I'll just have to push stuff that may pop up at that time aside. :))
- 19:39:18 [ruaok]
- I suggest 21.9 since Ian wanted to attend my shin-dig in Italy. We could then have our summit in .dk after that.
- 19:39:31 [warp]
- :)
- 19:39:39 [ruaok]
- Freso: do you want to try and suggest that date with our possible hosts?
- 19:39:44 [warp]
- I expect I'll be in europe in september.
- 19:40:06 [kepstin-work]
- * kepstin-work can probably arrange to be available in september
- 19:40:19 [Freso]
- ruaok: Just did. ;)
- 19:40:26 [ruaok]
- Freso: :-)
- 19:40:40 [ruaok]
- right-o.
- 19:40:44 [ruaok]
- what else?
- 19:40:56 [ruaok]
- * ruaok wonders where captain slacker is
- 19:41:05 [ruaok]
- did ocharles phone this one in?
- 19:41:19 [warp]
- I haven't heard anything, but I'm bad with e-mail.
- 19:41:21 [ruaok]
- kepstin-work: it would be good to see you over here again!
- 19:41:24 [Freso]
- ruaok: Planning for arrivals Friday and departures Sunday? Or do we do Thursday-Sunday?
- 19:41:34 [ruaok]
- Freso: either is fine with me.
- 19:41:34 [ijabz]
- it is a bank holiday here in uk
- 19:41:41 [warp]
- ijabz: ah
- 19:41:51 [ruaok]
- I think that a summit should have more socializing time.
- 19:42:10 [Freso]
- ruaok: Yeah. Which is why more days are generally preferable. :)
- 19:42:47 [ruaok]
- agreed.
- 19:43:05 [ruaok]
- I'll leave you and kloeri to explore that.
- 19:43:21 [ruaok]
- but I will certainly have more time on my hands since I can probably get a cheap direct flight. :)
- 19:43:35 [ruaok]
- not so damned rushed as if I am coming from the states.
- 19:43:41 [Freso]
- Yeah. :)
- 19:43:49 [ruaok]
- ok, I'd say we should just close here for the time. being.
- 19:44:11 [ruaok]
- warp: I'll be around all day tomorrow.
- 19:44:22 [warp]
- ok
- 19:44:22 [ruaok]
- so, we can start more release planning then.
- 19:44:44 [ijabz]
- reosarevok: what machine are you testing on ?
- 19:44:45 [ruaok]
- thanks for your time everyone; kick ocharles if you see him, k?
- 19:44:46 [warp]
- well it looks like reosarevok is furthest along in merging and testing.
- 19:44:59 [ianmcorvidae]
- * ianmcorvidae appears
- 19:45:02 [reosarevok]
- ijabz: reosarevok sandbox in rika
- 19:45:05 [reosarevok]
- oh hi ianmcorvidae!
- 19:45:07 [ruaok]
- reosarevok: looks I will be pestering you tomorrow then.
- 19:45:11 [ruaok]
- oh hai ianmcorvidae
- 19:45:14 [warp]
- :)
- 19:45:18 [ruaok]
- how is smelLA?
- 19:45:33 [ianmcorvidae]
- sessions just stopped for a bit, got my room, hanging out until I get to talk in the next thing
- 19:45:33 [ijabz]
- do you need to get latest search indexes on their somehow ?
- 19:45:52 [ianmcorvidae]
- and do a dramatic reveal that MB solves all the problems they've been talking about all morning :P
- 19:46:05 [ruaok]
- ianmcorvidae: don't expect them to listen to that.
- 19:46:10 [ianmcorvidae]
- oh, I don't :)
- 19:46:10 [warp]
- ianmcorvidae: good luck :)
- 19:46:15 [ruaok]
- you are not one of them, so they have every right to ignore what you say.
- 19:46:51 [ruaok]
- ianmcorvidae: remember, this is not the first time they've heard that MB solves all their problems.
- 19:47:15 [ruaok]
- what they dont say, is: "We want it to solve all of our problems AND we want to control 150% of it"
- 19:47:15 [warp]
- keep at it, maybe it'll stick eventually.
- 19:47:33 [ruaok]
- its the control part that they have issue with.
- 19:47:35 [ianmcorvidae]
- one of the guys from 7digital ended up sitting next to me for a chunk though
- 19:47:41 [ruaok]
- these metadata hippies are quite smelly to them
- 19:47:56 [ianmcorvidae]
- we were snickering a bit at the business guys talking about tech they didn't understand :)
- 19:48:16 [ruaok]
- who from 7d?
- 19:48:20 [ianmcorvidae]
- but yeah -- I figure I'll say it, and maybe it'll at least be heard by the people I'm already having meetings with
- 19:48:37 [ianmcorvidae]
- I don't actually remember his name :( one of the guys from the team we had lunch with when we were in london last nov.
- 19:48:56 [ruaok]
- oh, I mentioned that you're there to Paul Jessop. So expect another person to bug you.
- 19:49:12 [ruaok]
- and if you run into Brian Zisk, tell him I said hi. And buy him a beer. I will pay. :)
- 19:49:17 [ianmcorvidae]
- yeah; I went and introduced myself to Brian Zisk (briefly, he was excitedly talking to someone else at the time)
- 19:49:22 [ruaok]
- James. Willian. Paul.
- 19:49:25 [ruaok]
- one of those.
- 19:49:31 [reosarevok]
- You mean they sell beer there?
- 19:49:39 [reosarevok]
- Not just champagne?
- 19:49:44 [ruaok]
- ha!
- 19:49:49 [ruaok]
- what else is new in your world, ianmcorvidae ?
- 19:49:58 [ianmcorvidae]
- nothing much; I'm not sure what all reo said about the areas patch
- 19:50:06 [ianmcorvidae]
- but it's coming along, not done but chunks are up for review
- 19:50:24 [ianmcorvidae]
- need to check a couple things for the WS for releases, plus some stuff for editing releases
- 19:50:42 [ianmcorvidae]
- (was slower on those since I, possibly ill-advisedly, didn't work independently of the other patches for the most part)
- 19:51:13 [ianmcorvidae]
- in general that's looking good though, and my branch has ended up being a place where all of the schema change patches are merged together
- 19:51:19 [ianmcorvidae]
- which means that arrangement is getting testing :)
- 19:51:35 [ruaok]
- and what exactly is the name of that branch?
- 19:51:39 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok doesn't see why ill-advisedly
- 19:51:41 [ruaok]
- I guess I can just ask reosarevok
- 19:51:50 [ianmcorvidae]
- mbs-799-ui-5920
- 19:51:53 [mb-chat-logger]
- http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-799
- 19:51:54 [reosarevok]
- Having stuff together seems reasonable, even if it clashes, we want to find out
- 19:52:07 [reosarevok]
- Yeah, either that on his bitbucket or area-test on mine
- 19:52:08 [ianmcorvidae]
- on my bitbucket; there's one on github too but it may or may not be up to date, I don't remember
- 19:52:11 [ianmcorvidae]
- yeah
- 19:52:25 [ianmcorvidae]
- reo and I have been working together closely, so those two branches are pretty close together
- 19:52:35 [ianmcorvidae]
- I also need to re-check and then submit for review the mmd-schema changes
- 19:52:43 [ruaok]
- reosarevok: I may just bug you to find out what is current tomorrow.
- 19:52:55 [ianmcorvidae]
- I think that's all -- I've been focusing pretty much just on that in the last week or so
- 19:53:04 [ruaok]
- understandably. :)
- 19:53:13 [ianmcorvidae]
- though, warp: teto's redis is yelling at us again, if you get a chance could you check on it?
- 19:53:18 [reosarevok]
- I'm going to merge ian's, warp's and ocharles' branches again in my area-test one
- 19:53:33 [ruaok]
- glad you could join us ianmcorvidae
- 19:53:34 [warp]
- ianmcorvidae: ugh, ok
- 19:53:50 [ruaok]
- reosarevok: ok, great. I'm quite interested in that.
- 19:54:08 [ianmcorvidae]
- note that there is one review up that includes some (non-replicated, IIRC) schema changes
- 19:54:31 [ianmcorvidae]
- but we should still get that done sooner than later, since it affects the upgrade script
- 19:55:10 [ruaok]
- ianmcorvidae: agreed.
- 19:55:36 [ruaok]
- ok, lets call it a wrap.
- 19:55:39 [ruaok]
- thanks everyone.
- 19:55:41 [Ben\Sput]
- hold on! :P
- 19:55:49 [ruaok]
- oh wait, there is more.
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- 19:55:53 [Ben\Sput]
- recordings: style guideline has passed
- 19:55:57 [ianmcorv1dae]
- bah, ssh is being shitty; anyway, I need to run
- 19:56:00 [Ben\Sput]
- we're still arguing over the definition
- 19:56:02 [ianmcorv1dae]
- have fun, all!
- 19:56:04 [ruaok]
- when you listen to all this drivel, you can listen to Ben\Sput;s drivel!
- 19:56:22 [Ben\Sput]
- but it'll be done well before it's needed
- 19:56:27 [Ben\Sput]
- we've been using http://piratepad.net/xBQlcnuyM4
- 19:57:05 [Ben\Sput]
- and that's about it from me :)
- 19:57:25 [reosarevok]
- Nothing new on ian's branch, warp's merges cleanly
- 19:57:32 [ruaok]
- awesome.
- 19:57:35 [ruaok]
- ok, thanks everyone.
- 19:57:44 [warp]
- gracias, ruaok!
- 19:57:46 [ruaok]
- expect the spanish inquisition from me tomorrow!
- 19:57:51 [ruaok]
- de nada, warp!
- 19:58:01 [kepstin-work]
- nobody expects the spanish inquisition, tho.
- 19:58:06 [ruaok]
- ruaok has changed the topic to: Merge schema changes into master week! | http://musicbrainz.org/#devel
- 19:58:16 [ruaok]
- kepstin-work: ok, catalan inquisition!
- 19:58:29 [kepstin-work]
- aww, you lost my merge icon in the topic :(
- 19:58:34 [warp]
- * warp runs off for a late lunch.
- 19:58:44 [Ben\Sput]
- * Ben\Sput goes to watch Game of Thrones
- 19:58:49 [ruaok]
- * ruaok runs off for an on time dinner
- 19:59:00 [kepstin-work]
- kepstin-work has changed the topic to: ⛙ Merge schema changes into master week! | http://musicbrainz.org/#devel
- 19:59:22 [reosarevok]
- ruaok, https://bitbucket.org/reosarevok/musicbrainz-server/commits/branch/area-test then if you want to see it before I'm awake tomorrow
- 19:59:33 [reosarevok]
- Seems ollie doesn't have anything to pull either, so
- 20:00:02 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok loves all the branchy representation on the left
- 20:00:43 [kepstin-work]
- strange that unicode has a 'left lane merges' icon, but no corresponding 'right lane merges' icon
- 20:01:00 [kepstin-work]
- * kepstin-work thinks its due to the icon being imported from japanese phone emoticons.
- 20:02:57 [ruaok]
- I doubt I'll be settled at UPF before you're awake. that should be fine
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- 20:15:59 [kepstin-work]
- heh, Copenhagen is about 10° more north than where I am now :)
- 20:17:39 [ZaphodBeeblebrox]
- aren't you from canada kepstin?
- 20:17:50 [Freso]
- Canada's fairly North too. :)
- 20:17:57 [ZaphodBeeblebrox]
- yes, hench my point
- 20:18:08 [ZaphodBeeblebrox]
- oh freso! yso you do live!
- 20:18:09 [ZaphodBeeblebrox]
- :P
- 20:18:34 [Freso]
- Barely.
- 20:19:24 [ZaphodBeeblebrox]
- well I'm barly alive too, and if what kepstin-work is saying is true. I'm norththsth out of us
- 20:19:33 [ZaphodBeeblebrox]
- nya or something
- 20:19:45 [ZaphodBeeblebrox]
- anyway, I am seriously exausted, so I am going to bed.
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- 20:20:14 [reosarevok]
- natta ZaphodBeeblebrox
- 20:20:20 [kepstin-work]
- * kepstin-work is only about 45°N right now, but his city isn't near any oceans/large lakes, so continental climate with wide range of weather conditions
- 20:20:40 [reosarevok]
- heh, southern Canada is at the same level than northern Spain
- 20:20:44 [reosarevok]
- Fun
- 20:32:49 [Ben\Sput]
- Ben\Sput has left #musicbrainz-devel
- 20:42:36 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok wonders if modbot is complaining
- 20:47:49 [reosarevok]
- ( http://musicbrainz.org/edit/21960407 )
- 20:51:25 [SultS]
- my note maybe explains it?
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- 20:53:46 [reosarevok]
- SultS: That should still have merged fine (but good catch)
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- 21:20:33 [hawke_1]
- /me is stopped for a 502
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- 21:31:25 [reosarevok]
- 502 everywhere :/
- 21:31:35 [reosarevok]
- warp?
- 21:31:48 [reosarevok]
- hmm, loading again
- 21:31:55 [reosarevok]
- Wonder for how long
- 21:46:40 [warp]
- reosarevok: sorry, I did something which upset redis.
- 21:47:14 [warp]
- we're running out of memory on the redis machine -- so either we should not keep sessions as long as we do, or the machine needs more memory.
- 21:49:52 [reosarevok]
- Ok
- 21:50:12 [reosarevok]
- reosarevok has changed the topic to: ⛙ Merge schema changes into master week! | http://musicbrainz.org/#devel | Agenda: reviews, redis memory (warp)
- 21:50:13 [reosarevok]
- :p
- 21:50:23 [warp]
- thanks :)
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