IRC log of musicbrainz on 2006-05-23
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- bai!
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- 00:48:46 [SenRepus_]
- http://img424.imageshack.us/img424/2731/caring0ly4ia.jpg
- 00:48:51 [SenRepus_]
- awesome.
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- 01:03:16 [dMp_panda]
- hi yllona ;) how are you?
- 01:03:35 [yllona]
- hello panda, i'm doing well. and you?
- 01:03:53 [dMp_panda]
- well... strugling with the jazz masters... what a mess...
- 01:04:22 [yllona]
- yes.all those label compilations are going to be a mess.
- 01:04:24 [dMp_panda]
- I thought about what you say (add the artist name to such compils) --- definitely yes
- 01:04:52 [dMp_panda]
- do you think this need debate or should we go "straight ahead"?
- 01:05:26 [yllona]
- yes. there a far too many, from far too many labels, to just say: "compact jazz" or "jazz masters"
- 01:05:50 [dMp_panda]
- .... Verve Jazz Masters only counts 60 volumes...
- 01:06:02 [dMp_panda]
- deal ;)
- 01:06:04 [yllona]
- i'd go straight ahead. anyone interested in debate can offer to help with teh clean-up
- 01:06:13 [dMp_panda]
- definitely
- 01:06:35 [dMp_panda]
- mmmm... made me think about something... you have 5 minutes?
- 01:07:19 [yllona]
- compact jazz has got to be 75 CDs (or more). The other big compilation series is "This is Jazz", but at least those volumes are numbered
- 01:07:38 [yllona]
- yes, i'vo got time. waht;s up
- 01:08:06 [dMp_panda]
- I struggled hard with this one
- 01:08:07 [dMp_panda]
- http://musicbrainz.org/album/cff7689a-15e7-44be-8dee-71be559a3768.html
- 01:08:18 [dMp_panda]
- I'm stuck...
- 01:08:25 [dMp_panda]
- wondering if this is not homebrew...
- 01:08:45 [yllona]
- homebrew. you called it.
- 01:09:20 [dMp_panda]
- yes... mmm... I guess I may ask for removal, but I'm not too sure about the result.... seems like it take a lot to push something out....
- 01:10:34 [yllona]
- in the land of hi-fi was sassy's break out album in '55. cannonball played on that album extensively
- 01:11:48 [dMp_panda]
- yep - should be Emarcy #something I guess
- 01:12:08 [yllona]
- cannonball released "in the land of hi fi" in '56 on the same label as sassy (EmArcy)
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- 01:12:31 [yllona]
- let me see if there's a boxed set on mosaic or something
- 01:13:54 [yllona]
- "in the land of hi-fi" seems to be a whole series released by EmArcy in '55-56
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- 01:16:09 [yllona]
- dinah, sassy, cannonball, patti page, george auld. lee konitz has a hi-fi '56 album on atlantic also. but that mat be an emarcy re-release
- 01:17:16 [dMp_panda]
- nervermind --- it's just, you know, just *the one* you can't grab that goes on your nerves :D
- 01:17:23 [dMp_panda]
- woot --- even my dsl is tired ;) I guess it's time to go for me --- see ya yllona --- good night all
- 01:17:36 [yllona]
- g'night panda.
- 01:17:40 [yllona]
- * yllona is listening to Bala Moussaka by Maleem Mahmoud Ghania with Pharoah Sanders from The Trance of Seven Colors (1994) (2:28 / 3:54)
- 01:17:46 [dMp_panda]
- m --- the "real" hi-fi adderley should be here: http://musicbrainz.org/album/c5780fce-d043-40cf-9e3b-d78e6934d93d.html
- 01:18:47 [yllona]
- panda: here's the track listing for the cannonball album: http://www.cannonball-adderley.com/408.htm
- 01:19:45 [dMp_panda]
- yllona: excellent Pharoah Sanders ! ciao ;)
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- 01:20:09 [yllona]
- this is definitely home brew: http://musicbrainz.org/album/cff7689a-15e7-44be-8dee-71be559a3768.html . good call.
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- 01:34:08 [BrianG]
- !wtf rfv
- 01:34:08 [BrainzBot]
- That acronym wasn't in the database, please add the definition if you find it: http://acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?acronym=rfv
- 01:37:02 [mudcrow]
- http://musicbrainz.org/user/view.html?modname=mikeroach113 looks like he's creating sperate accounts to vote through his mods. http://musicbrainz.org/user/view.html?modname=CrackerBarrel & CapcomFan have voted yes on on only his mods it seems
- 01:44:01 [mudcrow]
- http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=4858115 he's a nice polite chap too
- 01:46:12 [yllona]
- whoa.
- 01:46:34 [BrianG]
- you jackass
- 01:47:06 [yllona]
- mud: do not engage this guy any further.
- 01:47:12 [mudcrow]
- i'm not
- 01:47:39 [yllona]
- personally i think his account should be suspended/banned
- 01:47:57 [mudcrow]
- personally I think he needs a smack in the gob
- 01:48:03 [yllona]
- that too.
- 01:48:17 [yllona]
- but it's hard to reach through the screen :P
- 01:49:35 [mudcrow]
- anyways I'm off to bed. night all
- 01:50:13 [yllona]
- g'night mudcrow
- 01:50:53 [BrianG]
- bye
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- 02:59:41 [yllona]
- g'night all
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- where is the CVS for the musicbrainz server software? the links on http://musicbrainz.org/products/server/import_howto.html dont seem to work
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- 04:52:56 [catmo]
- buuuhhh
- 04:53:00 [catmo]
- grml
- 04:53:27 [StupidMop]
- mooo?
- 04:53:41 [catmo]
- hello?
- 04:54:46 [StupidMop]
- hi :-)
- 04:54:55 [catmo]
- uhm hi....
- 04:55:12 [catmo]
- do i know you by another name?
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- 04:56:43 [StupidMop]
- prolly not
- 04:57:00 [StupidMop]
- 8-)
- 04:57:16 [catmo]
- oh. then i'm sorry but idont know you
- 04:57:33 [catmo]
- well perhaps I do, but its still to early to be coherent :)
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- 04:59:11 [StupidMop]
- oh no, you probably don't know me... but you should 'cause....well, 'cause i'm me
- 05:03:38 [catmo]
- hmm if anyone is here :) pay attention to this guy that's adding bogus and having two accounts voting yes http://musicbrainz.org/mod/search/results.html?voter_id=228885&vote_cast=1&vote_cast=0&vote_cast=-1&orderby=desc&voter_type=1
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- away!s to school
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- 05:13:01 [nikki_]
- * nikki_ looks disgusted at the weather
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- * keschte too, wonders if he should take the motorcycle today
- 05:13:47 [keschte]
- what the heck, i'll just do it :)
- 05:13:53 [keschte]
- have a nice day, cu
- 05:13:56 [nikki_]
- I woke up to a face full of HELLO! I'M MR. SUNSHINE! GOOD MORNING! and immediately smothered myself with a pillow
- 05:14:07 [keschte]
- ouch :)
- 05:14:14 [keschte]
- i'd like that, in fact
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- 05:14:29 [nikki_]
- straaaange.
- 05:27:20 [catmo]
- * catmo stabs nikki because she complains about the sun
- 05:27:28 [catmo]
- omg want something else than rain!
- 05:27:42 [catmo]
- its going to be june in just a little bit!
- 05:28:44 [catmo]
- stupid weather
- 05:28:52 [catmo]
- and I have to go to the library and all
- 05:28:57 [catmo]
- crappity crap
- 05:28:57 [nikki_]
- pfft.
- 05:29:00 [catmo]
- :(((
- 05:29:02 [catmo]
- T_T
- 05:29:03 [nikki_]
- people are always complaining about the rain
- 05:29:05 [nikki_]
- I love it.
- 05:29:13 [catmo]
- this weather is soabsofuckingdepressio
- 05:29:21 [catmo]
- its nice. NOT
- 05:29:31 [HairMetalAddict]
- http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=4858070 ... Wow
- 05:29:39 [nikki_]
- it's all a matter of opinion.
- 05:29:41 [catmo]
- not when you've just had 6 months of it in the cold and not so cold variant
- 05:30:00 [catmo]
- its like ruaok and cali weather. exept of sun we get rain and crap
- 05:30:05 [HairMetalAddict]
- * HairMetalAddict recognizes mikeroach113 as being a last.fm-er
- 05:30:12 [catmo]
- oioi
- 05:30:49 [HairMetalAddict]
- Dude's forever checking my last.fm page out because he wishes his taste was as good as mine. ;-)
- 05:31:01 [catmo]
- he's a lost cause for good taste
- 05:31:03 [catmo]
- :)
- 05:33:23 [HairMetalAddict]
- Coincidence my booty... Poison stuff doesn't get votes that quickly, much less so many people "suddenly appearing and agreeing" with an obviously wrong mod...
- 05:33:38 [catmo]
- jupp
- 05:39:00 [HairMetalAddict]
- http://www.last.fm/user/mikeroach113/ btw
- 05:39:15 [catmo]
- jupp saw
- 05:39:41 [catmo]
- meeeh red hot chilli peppers
- 05:39:46 [catmo]
- boting
- 05:39:50 [catmo]
- boring even
- 05:40:19 [catmo]
- you can say alot of thingsabout my musical tastes. but I'm not listening to boring run-of the mill gebneric top40 stuff
- 05:40:24 [catmo]
- generic
- 05:41:34 [HairMetalAddict]
- We get "tag team" image voting at last.fm, so I was looking to see if there were accounts there for the yes-voters. Since most of his mods are Amazon asin's to get album covers. Lot of talk on last.fm about getting those added to get album covers there.
- 05:41:44 [HairMetalAddict]
- No such accounts, of course.
- 05:42:17 [catmo]
- of course?
- 05:42:57 [HairMetalAddict]
- Of course!
- 05:43:04 [catmo]
- ok! :p
- 05:43:07 [catmo]
- :)
- 05:48:58 [catmo]
- lol your icon has a 'death to myspave' thing suddenly flashing :D
- 05:49:02 [catmo]
- myspace
- 05:49:20 [catmo]
- I gotta go to school though
- 05:49:20 [HairMetalAddict]
- Shh... subliminal message. ;-)
- 05:49:27 [catmo]
- eat something, that sorta thing
- 05:49:51 [catmo]
- that mike cockroach guy seriously wants your attention http://www.last.fm/user/HairMetalAddict/journal/2006/05/18/138189/
- 05:51:30 [HairMetalAddict]
- http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=4858631
- 05:51:57 [catmo]
- fnark
- 05:52:41 [HairMetalAddict]
- Mmm, that's just the tip of the iceberg. Subscribers/Moderators there can see when people visit their user page. He's checking mine 2-3 times a day.
- 05:52:54 [catmo]
- sheesh ew a stalker
- 05:53:50 [HairMetalAddict]
- I get that a lot. My awesome music taste makes me have to bear that burden. :-P
- 05:54:00 [catmo]
- :p
- 05:54:12 [HairMetalAddict]
- Bleh, it's definitely too early. I used the word "awesome".
- 05:54:28 [catmo]
- ja jøss, för tidlight
- 05:54:36 [catmo]
- that was bad swedish
- 05:55:48 [HairMetalAddict]
- Shower time... just have to hope he's not peeking in the curtain...
- 05:55:55 [catmo]
- o_O
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- 07:16:58 [MingVase]
- http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=4858629
- 07:19:13 [Muz]
- * Muz yawns and stretches
- 07:20:19 [Muz]
- Hmmm http://musicbrainz.org/mod/search/results.html?voter_id=229158&vote_cast=1&vote_cast=0&vote_cast=-1&orderby=desc&voter_type=1
- 07:20:58 [Muz]
- Am I the only one who finds it strange that "CapcomFan" hasn't made one mod, voted lots on mikeroach113's mods, and is called "CapcomFan" and his last.fm avatar is MegaMan funnily enough
- 07:21:43 [Muz]
- http://musicbrainz.org/mod/search/results.html?voter_id=228885&vote_cast=1&vote_cast=0&vote_cast=-1&orderby=desc&voter_type=1 "CrackerBarrel" too
- 07:21:44 [Muz]
- * Muz shrugs
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- 07:22:41 [Muz]
- http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=4866010 Within 30 seconds of each other on voting too, my bet is he's a moron who's got dupe accounts
- 07:22:46 [MartinRudat]
- hmm... that _is_ a little odd.
- 07:23:18 [Muz]
- * Muz waits for the whole "No shit Sherlock!" comment and then the reference to yesterday's rather strange looking Google theme...
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- 07:25:56 [Shepard]
- * Shepard yawns
- 07:26:20 [Muz]
- Moin moin Shep
- 07:30:05 [Shepard]
- moin
- 07:32:13 [MartinRudat]
- * MartinRudat ponders... time to get out the fine-toothed comb, and go over their mods, or does someone get to employ a LART?
- 07:32:31 [Nyght]
- http://www.chicagotheband.com/discography30a.htm
- 07:32:40 [Nyght]
- Wish more band sites were so thorough!
- 07:33:17 [MartinRudat]
- Nyght: wow.
- 07:33:32 [MartinRudat]
- !wtf LART
- 07:33:33 [BrainzBot]
- That acronym wasn't in the database, please add the definition if you find it: http://acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?acronym=LART
- 07:33:42 [Nyght]
- no doubt, I'm thinking of approving it, so they realize that they didn't need to actually go to the trouble of multitudes of votes. :D
- 07:34:22 [Muz]
- * Muz should properly get his arse into gear and get ready for work
- 07:34:28 [MartinRudat]
- !+wtf LART [Luser|Loser] Attitude Readjustment Tool
- 07:34:28 [BrainzBot]
- Acronym added. (id: 14)
- 07:41:32 [Shepard]
- Nyght: it has no track times :P
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- 07:41:57 [Nyght]
- what has no track times?
- 07:42:04 [Shepard]
- the site
- 07:42:18 [Nyght]
- Oh, the chicago site? Well.. shucks, one thing that could be better. ;)
- 07:42:41 [Nyght]
- maybe we should write them and tell them that's their only flaw in an otherwise beautiful disc layout!
- 07:43:09 [MartinRudat]
- hmm... http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=4858488 why would this be removied, (apart from the fact I can't read japanese, and haven't checked for a transliteration) that relationship looks spot on...
- 07:44:02 [Nyght]
- I imagine it's because it's the import.
- 07:44:28 [Nyght]
- they just clarified that on the amazin asin page.. perhaps they're removing this, to try and get the non import title there?
- 07:44:49 [Nyght]
- but, that's climbing into a moderator's head, and I'm not that moderator.. so. ;)
- 07:45:15 [MartinRudat]
- no pending add asin...
- 07:45:50 [MartinRudat]
- hmm... customer image, too.
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- 07:46:52 [MartinRudat]
- G'day Joan.
- 07:47:03 [Joan_W]
- morning/evening Martin
- 07:47:41 [MartinRudat]
- aha! http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000006SYR
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- 07:48:23 [Nyght]
- http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000006SYR
- 07:48:27 [Nyght]
- different listing
- 07:48:46 [MartinRudat]
- rats.
- 07:48:49 [Nyght]
- track listing.. and in this instance, I would go with the import
- 07:49:06 [Nyght]
- No it's not
- 07:49:19 [Nyght]
- it just doesn't have the "black rain suite" before it.
- 07:49:23 [Nyght]
- it's the same.
- 07:49:28 [Nyght]
- Hi Joan
- 07:49:46 [Joan_W]
- morning/even earlier morning beth
- 07:50:03 [Nyght]
- how are you today?
- 07:50:15 [Joan_W]
- deciding whether to go back to bed - tired
- 07:50:36 [MartinRudat]
- * MartinRudat hands Joan a teddy-bear and a blanket... bed! =)
- 07:50:46 [Joan_W]
- I love teddy bears
- 07:51:03 [Nyght]
- I think Martin's got the right idea. ;)
- 07:51:14 [Nyght]
- I just got up 2 hours ago and am thinking about doing the same.
- 07:51:18 [Joan_W]
- I told you that you would both still be arguing about soundtracks when I came back - I just didn't expect it to be two days later
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- 07:51:59 [Nyght]
- I found a site that's I think better than the sabbath? site we were talking about.
- 07:52:00 [MartinRudat]
- Nyght: we're arguing about a mutual appreciation society with what appears to be one member, and three aliases...
- 07:52:14 [MartinRudat]
- ack! s/Nyght/Joan/
- 07:52:22 [Nyght]
- we're not arguing over soundtracks. ;) we're talking about an amazon asin add.
- 07:52:22 [MartinRudat]
- * MartinRudat goes to find something to eat.
- 07:52:29 [Joan_W]
- I noticed that -
- 07:52:49 [Nyght]
- Martin, are you going to add that asin?
- 07:52:52 [Nyght]
- or should I?
- 07:53:07 [Nyght]
- Joan, the chicago site?
- 07:53:11 [Nyght]
- or, was that to Martin?
- 07:53:15 [Joan_W]
- All I could do was read the chat logs yesterday all about that person, whose name escapes me, who is adding edits and then, apparently, voting on them
- 07:53:39 [Joan_W]
- The sabbath site I found was, I thought, pretty damned good. It would have to be a really good one to better it
- 07:53:58 [Nyght]
- http://www.chicagotheband.com/discography30a.htm
- 07:54:34 [Nyght]
- granted, it's just the one disc, I haven't dug.. I'm no longer into chicago.. but, I was impressed with htat write up. :) only complaint so far was Shep's that it didn't have track times. :D
- 07:56:05 [Joan_W]
- This is a good one too. http://www.led-zeppelin.com/lyrics.html Click on any of the album covers and you get the song title and all the lyrics
- 07:57:01 [Nyght]
- very nice, but no AR material. :D
- 07:57:43 [Nyght]
- The chicago was like liner notes on steroids!
- 07:57:45 [Joan_W]
- This is quite good for bootlegs http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~qr6y-ykt/index.html - only trouble is that you have to have the title of the bootleg. They haven't arranged it by chronology yet
- 07:57:47 [MartinRudat]
- Nyght: I'm not sure which to do, at this point.
- 07:58:29 [Joan_W]
- and as LZ were essentially a touring band, that sort of information is essential
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- 07:58:39 [Joan_W]
- whoops - two essentials in one sentence
- 07:58:45 [Nyght]
- Yep Joan
- 07:59:17 [Nyght]
- Well Martin... I have a strange twist.. um, ask them what's up and see what they say. The AR will be there tomorrow if they weren't going to add it themselves.
- 07:59:47 [MartinRudat]
- Nyght: sounds like a plan to me.
- 08:00:08 [MartinRudat]
- * MartinRudat goes to look at other mods by CrackerBarrel, and mikeroach113
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- 08:03:50 [Nyght]
- and don't forget capcom.. or whatever
- 08:04:21 [MartinRudat]
- no mods from them yet.
- 08:05:18 [Joan_W]
- catmo started a conversation on these three at 5:03 this morning
- 08:06:04 [Joan_W]
- does IRC show the time according to where you are?
- 08:06:11 [MartinRudat]
- I could see that, there was a heated discussion involving mo, CapcomFan, and mikeroach113, I think...
- 08:06:25 [MartinRudat]
- ...err, in the mod-notes.
- 08:07:03 [MartinRudat]
- Joan: "[18:06] <Joan_W> does IRC show the time according to where you are?"?
- 08:08:09 [Joan_W]
- then the answer is yes. So my 5:03 would equate to whatever is the different between BST and wherever in the world you happen to be
- 08:09:49 [MartinRudat]
- * MartinRudat likes that question... o/` I come from the land downunder o/` =)
- 08:10:27 [Joan_W]
- * Joan_W thinks that my brain is not functioning correctly - go and grab another hour with martin's teddy bear
- 08:11:04 [Joan_W]
- that or large intake of caffeine - nah, teddy bear better
- 08:11:31 [MartinRudat]
- coffee is a poor substitute for sleep with a teddy bear?
- 08:11:50 [Joan_W]
- agreed - later
- 08:11:59 [MartinRudat]
- sleep well, Joan.
- 08:12:32 [Nyght]
- rest well Joan
- 08:14:46 [Nyght]
- * Nyght just had to jump in with her own comment about the unbelievable circumstances that the self appreciation fan club was trying to get intelligent people to believe.
- 08:16:17 [MartinRudat]
- heh. =)
- 08:31:49 [MartinRudat]
- * MartinRudat prods amazon... Peter Frampton... "When All the Pieces Fit"... imported into both .uk and .us ... does it come from .au or something?
- 08:35:29 [MartinRudat]
- hmm... this? http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00000DP1A
- 08:49:00 [Nyght]
- Would appear as if it's a Canadian release. :)
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- 08:52:42 [MartinRudat]
- G'day Muz.
- 08:52:51 [Muz]
- Morning
- 09:07:42 [MartinRudat]
- hmm... http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=4857950 I'm not keen on this, but I haven't found anything better... there's a .co.uk listing, but it's a different track-list, the '86 version has a tracklist, but isn't for sale, and has no image, and the version on .ca is from a private seller...
- 09:08:22 [MartinRudat]
- hmm... goes to try .de and .ja
- 09:11:43 [MartinRudat]
- aha! this looks better... http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00002611F
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- 09:38:53 [SenRepus_]
- http://www.machall.com/index.php?strip_id=87
- 09:38:54 [SenRepus_]
- BAHAHAHA
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- 09:40:44 [MartinRudat]
- curry for dinner, yum!
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- 09:43:15 [MartinRudat]
- G'day luks
- 09:44:05 [luks]
- hi
- 09:50:43 [MartinRudat]
- * MartinRudat blinks... "Number of Discs: 1.0" ... can there be "Number of Discs: 1.5"?
- 09:50:58 [Nyght]
- LOL sure, the credit card discs. :)
- 09:51:38 [MartinRudat]
- hmm... that's possible... though I don't think that cutting them out of a full cd with a pair of scissors would work very well... =)
- 09:56:49 [Nyght]
- Ya know, I have to agree with you there.. might end up splitting up some of the data. :( Well... we don't burn them. ;)
- 09:58:24 [MartinRudat]
- Nyght: it's more that the lacquer might separate from the back of the CD, taking the reflective layer, and the data layer (on recordables)with it, I think... if you limit youself to hmm... 50M, I think, you fit just fine inside a credit-card CD...
- 09:58:55 [MartinRudat]
- * MartinRudat could go check one of the credit-card CDs he's got to be sure, but isn't quite certain where they are...
- 10:02:03 [Nyght]
- LOL I don't even have any... but, if it was done the first burn, it would still be "half a cd" and it wouldn't get damaged. :D
- 10:09:36 [Nyght]
- * Nyght has to stop on that fan club.. cause is getting caustic
- 10:11:58 [MartinRudat]
- hmm?
- 10:12:17 [Nyght]
- http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=4858070
- 10:12:47 [Nyght]
- I'm starting to cross the line of "delicate rebuke" to flaming...
- 10:14:12 [MartinRudat]
- Nyght: eh. oh well, I feel they deserve being flamed.
- 10:14:50 [Nyght]
- Well, it's partially their own abusiveness to others that's pulled my hackles up... and I have a hard time biting my tongue in that instance.
- 10:15:06 [Nyght]
- or fingers in this instance. :)
- 10:15:09 [MartinRudat]
- * MartinRudat wonders if he should go track down a copy of the internet flame form... then again, that wouldn't be a very friendly thing to (try to) jam into a mod-note...
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- 10:15:37 [Nyght]
- LOL rules of engagement. :)
- 10:16:25 [HairMetalAddict]
- Rules of engagement: Don't get engaged. It only leads to marriage, which is the leading cause of divorce.
- 10:17:23 [Nyght]
- So very true HMA, but sometimes it's worth the risk
- 10:18:03 [HairMetalAddict]
- "Living in Sin" forever!
- 10:20:29 [Nyght]
- It's only a sin if you get caught?
- 10:22:26 [MartinRudat]
- ...but god is omniscient, he knows what you're up to all the time, everywhere (I think)
- 10:22:53 [slaad]
- What if I'm in the bathroom? Does he watch me then? Because that's kind of... odd.
- 10:23:55 [MartinRudat]
- so I'm given to believe, but I'm only nominally christian, so I really dunno. *shrugs*
- 10:24:43 [slaad]
- I don't think I want to worship anyone who watches me whilst I'm on the loo...
- 10:24:47 [MartinRudat]
- * MartinRudat ponders running away from one of those topics never to bring up unless you're prepared for an argument... =)
- 10:25:25 [Nyght]
- Gives a new twist to fetishism for sure slaad
- 10:25:31 [slaad]
- Hh.
- 10:25:33 [slaad]
- Heh, even.
- 10:25:34 [HairMetalAddict]
- * HairMetalAddict is glad he's a Pagan, and his Gods/Goddesses have no interest in watching him take a dump
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- 10:28:30 [MartinRudat]
- * MartinRudat ponders taking a more active interest in theology... but the christian god is as good as any other for using to blaspheme...
- 10:32:46 [MartinRudat]
- * MartinRudat ponders... one of the elder gods might be good for cursing with, but I don't think that you'd want to get their attention...
- 10:37:02 [MartinRudat]
- second opinion? http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=4858095
- 10:41:29 [Muz]
- I say we break his legs and something
- 10:41:35 [Muz]
- Those other two accounts annoy me
- 10:41:43 [Muz]
- "CrackerBarrel" and "capcomfan"
- 10:42:18 [MartinRudat]
- * MartinRudat hands Muz a length of clue-by-four.
- 10:47:05 [BrianG]
- if a new user to MB creates an account, are they given a link to the CodeOfConduct at all?
- 10:47:27 [MartinRudat]
- there's a CodeOfConduct page?
- 10:47:56 [MartinRudat]
- * MartinRudat can't remember, he signed up a while back...
- 10:48:00 [nikki_]
- yes
- 10:48:12 [BrianG]
- yes to what?
- 10:49:55 [Jetpack]
- i got dibs on the kneecaps
- 10:52:16 [Nyght]
- Yes Martin, not very notable anywhere, but very good initial reading if we can get it out there.
- 10:53:30 [Nyght]
- Martin http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/CodeOfConduct
- 10:53:49 [MartinRudat]
- * MartinRudat reads. I wonder if I've read this before or not...
- 10:54:39 [Nyght]
- It was new to me when nechto13 pointed it out to me... and I had read through the editing stuff like three times, and a bunch of other things. I was just looking at MB like a new user once more and trying to figure out the best place to put it so it's sure to catch the eye.
- 10:57:49 [BrianG]
- replace the user stats section of the side bar with a link to the CoC :)
- 10:58:14 [BrianG]
- s/user stats/top voters/
- 10:58:56 [MartinRudat]
- hmm... the first part, play nice, don't flame, and be nice to newbies, is pretty much Internet Ettiquette(sp!) 101, afaik. I should provide links with my edits more, though... then again, from what (little) I've seen, so should everyone...
- 10:59:39 [Nyght]
- Yes, so should everyone... and, it takes a lot less time if the editor supplies links so a voter can double check, or add more information or whatnot.
- 11:00:15 [nikki_]
- aaaaaaaaaaah!
- 11:00:30 [nikki_]
- exams in an hour and a half and I still know nothing
- 11:00:47 [Nyght]
- to me it's a simple case of less time all around. The originator supplies the links, the voter then can choose to search elsewhere, or take the provided link. It certainly shows why you've gathered the thoughts you have and doesn't leave others to crawl around in your headspace. :)
- 11:00:49 [MartinRudat]
- * MartinRudat likes it to a certain extent when an editor doesn't... gives me a chance to prod amazon to find the album (if it exists), and get a virtually free mod. =)
- 11:01:06 [Nyght]
- we're not too careful when we do that, we might step on a memory or something and squash it out of existence. :D
- 11:01:30 [BrianG]
- !+wtf SSIA Summary Says It All
- 11:01:30 [BrainzBot]
- Acronym added. (id: 290)
- 11:01:38 [MartinRudat]
- Nyght: bah, you'd have to squeeze past all the derailed trains of thought, though...
- 11:01:42 [Nyght]
- * Nyght likes it when the amazon link is there and gets the freemod anyways!
- 11:02:19 [Nyght]
- but I might slide into them and enjoy the stray ride. :D
- 11:03:16 [MartinRudat]
- * MartinRudat wonders if there could be a (or is) a 'random open mod' link...
- 11:04:15 [BrianG]
- i really want a MB.org t-shirt but i don't want one of those chinsey cafepress ones
- 11:04:48 [BrianG]
- would anyone have interested in buying nice silk-screened ones?
- 11:05:01 [BrianG]
- if they were avalible for purchase
- 11:05:53 [MartinRudat]
- * MartinRudat welds a steel ingot to the rails a random train of thought is running along... >:)
- 11:06:26 [Nyght]
- Martin, this is I think the best way I could describe it to a user that didn't realize why we asked for something. http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=4860924
- 11:07:54 [Nyght]
- * Nyght hands on for the wild ride, absolutely will have the most fun on the rollercoaster that goes out of specs and flies off the track like in the old cult film rollercoaster (or whatever the name was)
- 11:09:19 [BrianG]
- http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=4867647
- 11:11:17 [Nyght]
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rollercoaster_(movie)
- 11:13:09 [BrianG]
- Nyght: i added CoC intertwingeling to some pages of the wiki.. are there any that i missed?
- 11:36:27 [MartinRudat]
- ...automatic circumcisers? ouch.
- 11:39:19 [inhouseuk]
- MartinRudat: those are called crazy ex-girlfriends with a pair of scissors :)
- 11:39:50 [MartinRudat]
- I thought that that bobbit person used a knife...=)
- 11:39:59 [inhouseuk]
- yup
- 11:41:20 [MartinRudat]
- * MartinRudat ponders attempting to sing along to '"Weird" Al Yankovic - Hardware Store'... I don't think I've got the lung capacity for the list...
- 11:42:26 [inhouseuk]
- * inhouseuk hands Martin an oxygen bottle
- 11:42:39 [MartinRudat]
- heh. =)
- 11:42:59 [inhouseuk]
- helium would be more amusing :)
- 11:43:43 [MartinRudat]
- * MartinRudat ponders... I should go see if the CD store has a copy of anything by Alvin & the chipmunks...
- 11:43:58 [inhouseuk]
- * inhouseuk chuckles
- 11:44:50 [nikki_]
- I got another fake pound coin in my change
- 11:45:08 [inhouseuk]
- made of lead?
- 11:45:31 [MartinRudat]
- * MartinRudat sends nikki a fake shilling made of chocolate? =)
- 11:45:31 [nikki_]
- dunno
- 11:45:56 [inhouseuk]
- nikki how did the exams go?
- 11:45:57 [MartinRudat]
- * MartinRudat hmms... actually, I think I ate them all from easter already, anyway.
- 11:46:29 [nikki_]
- I have electronics ones I'm going to do utterly horribly on in less than an hour.
- 11:47:07 [inhouseuk]
- I meant the ones you did the other day (yesterday)?
- 11:47:29 [MartinRudat]
- * MartinRudat sets "The Art of Electroncs" on nikki's head, to see if you can absorb knowledge by osmosis...
- 11:48:20 [nikki_]
- gaaah
- 11:48:21 [nikki_]
- gotta go
- 11:48:22 [nikki_]
- bye
- 11:48:24 [inhouseuk]
- Martin that book it too heavy! nikki would lose several inches in height
- 11:48:39 [inhouseuk]
- buy nikki, good luck
- 11:48:44 [inhouseuk]
- bye even
- 11:48:57 [MartinRudat]
- ace it, nikki.
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- 13:09:29 [catmo]
- excuse mw but I was not in any heated argument! :p it was mudcrow that got into an argument with (them)
- 13:09:40 [catmo]
- o o ( always I'm put to blame for drame o.O )
- 13:10:01 [Muz]
- * Muz picks up the kitty and cuddles
- 13:10:09 [MartinRudat]
- sorry. all I saw was people getting testy, which generally makes me tune them out...
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- 13:18:38 [catmo]
- muz: prrrr
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- 13:22:22 [catmo]
- hi joan
- 13:22:28 [MartinRudat]
- G'day Joan
- 13:23:08 [Joan_W]
- hello mo and a very australian g'day to you martin. Australian, because I have just got off the phone with my nephew in Mission Beach, Queensland
- 13:32:35 [Joan_W]
- that is a very definite chatkill
- 13:32:43 [catmo]
- ja jøss
- 13:33:01 [catmo]
- I wondered if people where talking and my client was being haxor again
- 13:33:05 [catmo]
- but that was mirc
- 13:33:29 [Joan_W]
- BrianG - are you still here?
- 13:34:37 [PRAEst76]
- Just got the new Portion Control boxed set. Disc 5 is a data disc, it contains the contents of the first four discs in mp3 audio and an exclusive remix in wav that isn't available anywhere else.
- 13:34:59 [PRAEst76]
- How to we deal with such things? And it as NAT or do we add the contents of the data discs?
- 13:35:02 [catmo]
- oohhhh how to add tyhat :/
- 13:35:07 [PRAEst76]
- Or ignore it completely?
- 13:35:20 [catmo]
- I'd add.. it as a CD with all the tracks and the wav as yet another track
- 13:35:29 [catmo]
- and then make an annotiation
- 13:35:32 [Joan_W]
- I don't think you can ignore it
- 13:35:46 [catmo]
- datadisc will l be able to be a setting i n the future
- 13:36:03 [catmo]
- you can add releases with more than 99 tracks
- 13:36:17 [PRAEst76]
- No, it's just so shiny.
- 13:36:28 [PRAEst76]
- It would be like trying to ignore a kittne
- 13:36:30 [PRAEst76]
- kitten
- 13:36:34 [catmo]
- meow
- 13:36:40 [Joan_W]
- they seem to be doing that more and more these days - mixing formats. The wav file would take up an awful lot of disc space
- 13:36:59 [Joan_W]
- and it is impossible to ignore a kitten - it wouldn't let you
- 13:37:10 [catmo]
- jupp
- 13:37:13 [catmo]
- * catmo knows
- 13:37:19 [catmo]
- * catmo has 4 cats
- 13:37:21 [PRAEst76]
- Oh I know, I've tried.
- 13:37:41 [Joan_W]
- me too - impossible - and not just kittens but even when they are grown up
- 13:37:54 [PRAEst76]
- So what is the current MB thinking on data discs then?
- 13:38:36 [catmo]
- just add it with tracks as all lthe mp3's and the wav
- 13:38:38 [catmo]
- i'd say
- 13:38:44 [catmo]
- no pint i nadding it as nats
- 13:38:46 [catmo]
- point
- 13:40:44 [inhouseuk]
- PRAEst76: I'd add it as a directory listing of the data disc content and put a big annotation.
- 13:41:34 [catmo]
- that's what I said!
- 13:41:35 [catmo]
- :p
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- 13:42:18 [inhouseuk]
- mo yeah, I know. But PRAEst76 now has two people supporting the idea :)
- 13:42:25 [catmo]
- oohhhohhh
- 13:42:27 [catmo]
- ^^
- 13:42:47 [Joan_W]
- three if you count me - I like annotations - clear up a lot of mess that way
- 13:43:10 [PRAEst76]
- I'm still not sure what idea is being supported. How do you add a dir listing to MB?
- 13:43:27 [catmo]
- just add all the 'tracks' ie files
- 13:44:03 [inhouseuk]
- PRAEst76: put the tracks as 'trackname.mp3' or what ever they are
- 13:44:05 [PRAEst76]
- Doable... but say this data disc contained more than 100 tracks (it doesn't, but for the sake of interest)
- 13:44:26 [PRAEst76]
- inhouseuk: that seems messy.
- 13:44:28 [catmo]
- it's possible to add 99+ trackked releases to mb
- 13:44:38 [PRAEst76]
- catmo: Oh, I didn't know that.
- 13:44:42 [catmo]
- yupp
- 13:44:49 [catmo]
- I nagged and bribed with chocoalte
- 13:44:52 [catmo]
- or soe,thing like that
- 13:44:56 [PRAEst76]
- Yay
- 13:45:10 [PRAEst76]
- I don't pay enough attention and miss these things.
- 13:45:14 [catmo]
- :)
- 13:45:30 [Joan_W]
- while there are several people on here, can I have an opinion on this mod. What have I missed? http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=4827271
- 13:46:45 [MartinRudat]
- * MartinRudat ponders... mp3.com however long ago they were independant produced CDs with n tracks, plus the same tracks again as mp3s in the data track...
- 13:47:05 [catmo]
- the only thing I know is that volume should only be added if the word 'volume' is actually a part of the title
- 13:47:17 [PRAEst76]
- Very possibly it was just "Sad Songs" and when it sold more than 12 copies they decided to create a series.
- 13:47:27 [catmo]
- or vol or stuff lie kthat
- 13:47:47 [PRAEst76]
- I'd probably agree with catmo, I know it makes it look a bit more untidy it's more accurate.
- 13:49:02 [Joan_W]
- the only problem with that is Amazon does not list an album that is called Sad Songs. The only one there is Sad Song Vol. 1
- 13:49:14 [inhouseuk]
- again this comes back to usefulness of data vs. correctness
- 13:49:22 [BrianG]
- only amazon.uk calls it volume 1
- 13:49:29 [PRAEst76]
- MartinRudat: I think that was a data track at the end which would be removed on adding to MB (though I never bought one so I'm not 100% sure)
- 13:49:30 [Joan_W]
- and, there is a Sad Songs, Vol. 2
- 13:49:32 [catmo]
- well I'd like to look at the cover
- 13:49:41 [BrianG]
- i can't find any reference to the album as volume 1 that doesn't ahve its information populated from amazon.uk
- 13:49:50 [BrianG]
- the cover has no mention of Volume 1
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- 13:49:54 [catmo]
- for example this chartbusters USA series of 3 I have here. the voluem 1 clearly says 'vol 1'
- 13:50:09 [PRAEst76]
- The cover just seems to have Sad Songs on it.
- 13:50:12 [catmo]
- what does the cover say, if you know joan?
- 13:50:24 [PRAEst76]
- But sometimes I'm more likely to go by the spine
- 13:50:27 [MartinRudat]
- PRAEst76: probably.
- 13:50:35 [catmo]
- yes
- 13:50:42 [catmo]
- if spine says 'vol whatever' add it
- 13:50:57 [catmo]
- if there is no vol but only a number. *don't* add vol, but only the number
- 13:50:58 [inhouseuk]
- is adding Volume 1 to the listing useful to users? Even if it goes against the styleguide. I'd say yes it is
- 13:51:11 [PRAEst76]
- Yeah.
- 13:51:13 [catmo]
- etc hits for kids / absolute musac etc
- 13:51:19 [Joan_W]
- your point Brian? - the cover art is from the UK, the release date is UK - I agree it is taken from Amazon UK
- 13:51:34 [Joan_W]
- and Amazon UK list two volumes
- 13:52:05 [BrianG]
- i gave you a reason why i voted know. i don't know what more you want from me. .. show me on the release itself where it says "volume 1" and i'll gladly change my vote.
- 13:52:11 [BrianG]
- s/know/no/
- 13:52:46 [BrianG]
- my point is that your source is weak IMO
- 13:53:29 [Joan_W]
- Volume 1 just says Sad Songs http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B0002SGAZ4.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg Volume 2 says http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B000BOWT86.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
- 13:53:54 [inhouseuk]
- remember the styleguides are guidelines, not rules which have to be followed exactly
- 13:53:59 [catmo]
- anyway its wrong to vote no witouth atleast a vote. this I have learned
- 13:54:05 [Joan_W]
- you cannot have a Volume II without a volume I
- 13:54:24 [Joan_W]
- otherwise, ipso facto, volume 2 would be volume 1
- 13:54:25 [BrianG]
- remember that one no vote isn't going to end your world
- 13:55:05 [Joan_W]
- I know it's not, I was really interested in your thinking behind it. If I don't find out why people vote no, then I am going to continue making the same mistake.
- 13:55:27 [BrianG]
- ok
- 13:55:35 [BrianG]
- well i told you.. sorry for the delay :)
- 13:56:13 [MartinRudat]
- * MartinRudat hands mo a sticky note that reads 'note'.
- 13:56:18 [Joan_W]
- in view of the cover art, can you at least change your no vote for volume 2 to at least an abstain.
- 13:56:36 [inhouseuk]
- and sometimes the volume number is on the spine of the CD but not on the front
- 13:56:41 [BrianG]
- no. i do not agree with it being volume 1, so i am voting no.
- 13:56:45 [catmo]
- inhouse: that is true
- 13:56:55 [BrianG]
- inhouseuk: totally.. but don't we have to prove this stuff if we want to add it?
- 13:57:53 [Joan_W]
- but you are just telling me that I do have to prove it - make up your mind
- 13:58:11 [inhouseuk]
- no, it doesn't have to be proven exactly. Otherwise nothing would get corrected or added to the database
- 13:58:14 [Joan_W]
- and I did with volume 2 and I am now googling to try for volume 1
- 13:58:15 [BrianG]
- i dind't say you didn't have to prove it.
- 13:58:30 [catmo]
- well volume 2 should have volume 2 i nit, obviously
- 13:58:39 [BrianG]
- please read more carefully before putting words in my mouth :)
- 13:58:57 [luks]
- catmo: no, volume 2 should be "Sad Songs II"
- 13:58:58 [catmo]
- volume 1 depends if it actually 'say's volume 1, I mean sometimes it doesn'r becoe ma series because it doesn't sell well
- 13:59:16 [catmo]
- well that's what I mean obviously, I don't know the thing personally
- 14:00:01 [BrianG]
- i don't either, which is why i'm going on what's presented to me. to me there isn't enough proof to call this volume 1 because it 'might' say it on the spine
- 14:00:50 [BrianG]
- especially when i can find it at 2 or 3 other places with no volume information
- 14:01:25 [PRAEst76]
- Pity no-one here has bought this CD. No-one into sad songs then?
- 14:01:29 [catmo]
- yay birds in the food outside my window
- 14:01:51 [catmo]
- had some rear green thing the other day
- 14:01:53 [catmo]
- rare
- 14:01:57 [catmo]
- not rear, pfft
- 14:02:04 [PRAEst76]
- and now catmo stalks them?
- 14:02:19 [PRAEst76]
- is the rare green thing now in your belly?
- 14:02:32 [catmo]
- naw. just interesting to look at birds outside the window :) it's my cat pixy that likes to stalk birds
- 14:02:47 [catmo]
- and its to wet outside to do anything
- 14:03:01 [PRAEst76]
- Birds know better than to come around here. Except the big magpies that my cat is afraid of.
- 14:03:12 [inhouseuk]
- Joan_W: I think I've seen that CD in my local supermarket, I don't want to buy it, but I can look at the spine when I go there later
- 14:03:14 [catmo]
- magpies <3
- 14:03:25 [catmo]
- inhouse: good idea!
- 14:03:46 [PRAEst76]
- inhouseuk: Brill, pick me some teabags too. I'm running low.
- 14:03:54 [catmo]
- hheheee
- 14:04:35 [BrianG]
- Joan_W: i read your text wrong, could you link me to the vol 2 one taht i voted no on?
- 14:04:38 [inhouseuk]
- PRAEst76: stop being lazy, get them yourself :)
- 14:05:17 [PRAEst76]
- I don't like the look of those clouds, it might rain.
- 14:06:04 [Joan_W]
- thank you inhouse - I would be most grateful
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- 14:07:13 [Joan_W]
- it's okay Brian - it was disc 2 of the same volume that you voted no on - so your same argument would apply here
- 14:08:11 [catmo]
- hmm
- 14:08:24 [catmo]
- !choose make food or shower first?
- 14:08:25 [BrainzBot]
- make food.
- 14:08:28 [catmo]
- bwahaha
- 14:08:36 [Muz]
- Eat first
- 14:08:40 [Muz]
- Get it down your face and front
- 14:08:41 [Muz]
- Then wash!
- 14:08:42 [catmo]
- ja jøss
- 14:08:45 [BrianG]
- !choose bowl or papers
- 14:08:46 [BrainzBot]
- papers.
- 14:10:51 [catmo]
- scissors
- 14:11:09 [BrianG]
- i have a grinder, no scissors needed
- 14:11:11 [PRAEst76]
- !choose daddy or chips?
- 14:11:12 [BrainzBot]
- chips.
- 14:11:35 [PRAEst76]
- !choose death or cake?
- 14:11:36 [BrainzBot]
- cake.
- 14:11:52 [catmo]
- hehee
- 14:12:05 [BrianG]
- !choose moustache on or off
- 14:12:06 [BrainzBot]
- off.
- 14:12:08 [BrianG]
- too bad.
- 14:13:40 [MartinRudat]
- !choose sleep or coffee
- 14:13:41 [BrainzBot]
- coffee.
- 14:13:44 [BrianG]
- luks: i beat you, but you win :P
- 14:13:46 [catmo]
- pfffttt
- 14:13:50 [MartinRudat]
- I'm not surprised. =)
- 14:13:50 [catmo]
- disagreee!
- 14:14:11 [MartinRudat]
- * MartinRudat chooses sleep, though. Nytol.
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- 14:14:16 [catmo]
- natta
- 14:14:28 [luks]
- BrianG: sorry, i didn't notice those edits
- 14:14:33 [Joan_W]
- night martin
- 14:14:42 [BrianG]
- luks: no problem.
- 14:14:51 [BrianG]
- they were made within seconds
- 14:15:13 [BrianG]
- and i sort of sniped them from you anyway. haha
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- 14:18:35 [BrianG]
- any ELP fans?
- 14:18:48 [BrianG]
- we have Carl Parmer at work next week
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- 14:22:10 [Shepard]
- hi
- 14:22:26 [BrianG]
- hi
- 14:22:48 [PRAEst76]
- hu
- 14:23:06 [inhouseuk]
- !choose raining or not
- 14:23:07 [BrainzBot]
- not.
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- 14:23:13 [inhouseuk]
- wrong!
- 14:23:52 [Joan_W]
- thanks to lukz, this has now been sorted. He kindly found a German cover site for me and I downloaded the back cover, which shows the spine. It does not say volume 1, so I have deleted the mod. Thanks for his assistance.
- 14:24:42 [Shepard]
- inhouseuk: true here :P
- 14:24:44 [Shepard]
- hi joan
- 14:24:52 [Joan_W]
- hi shep
- 14:25:05 [Joan_W]
- you don't have to check at the supermarket now inhouse, but thanks for the offer
- 14:26:09 [Nyght]
- * Nyght returns all wet and drippy
- 14:26:12 [BrianG]
- it dosen't have Silver and GOld by Burl Ives, it can't be taht sad
- 14:26:33 [Joan_W]
- drippy female songs Brian
- 14:27:17 [PRAEst76]
- !choose sad unhappy or sad pathetic?
- 14:27:18 [BrainzBot]
- sad unhappy.
- 14:27:37 [PRAEst76]
- BrainzBot hath spake
- 14:27:41 [Shepard]
- * Shepard hands beth a towel
- 14:27:42 [Joan_W]
- sad in this context really means romantic, such as Air Supply - All Out of Love
- 14:28:18 [Joan_W]
- Nilsson - Without You and Eric Carmen - All By Myself
- 14:28:57 [Joan_W]
- been swimming beth?
- 14:29:18 [BrianG]
- Boy George - The Crying Game
- 14:29:35 [Shepard]
- The Tangent - The Winning Game :P
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- 14:30:00 [Nyght]
- * Nyght accepts it and grins
- 14:30:03 [PRAEst76]
- Rolf Harris - Two Little Boys
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- 14:30:37 [Joan_W]
- did it again!!!!!
- 14:30:46 [Nyght]
- Joan, no, just soaking to get rid of bad muscle spasms, eventually I'll get a jaccuzi
- 14:30:58 [Joan_W]
- I want an invitation if you do
- 14:31:10 [Nyght]
- any time you're here Joan. ;)
- 14:31:54 [Joan_W]
- I can't see it happening soon - saving up for a cruise around the Norwegian coast and Baltic capitals
- 14:34:02 [Nyght]
- no, but whenever you do end up coming stateside. (why you'd want to I haven't the froggiest) the invite is extended.
- 14:34:18 [Joan_W]
- thanks beth
- 14:36:01 [Nyght]
- Of course, but of course you'd have kids clamoring to say you talked funny. ;)
- 14:36:19 [Nyght]
- and you'd have to bring your felines... or it's just impossible.
- 14:36:52 [inhouseuk]
- I not sure if the pet passport scheme covers the US
- 14:37:34 [Nyght]
- pets are people too!
- 14:37:35 [Joan_W]
- I know it covers Europe and I know you can take animals into America, but I don't think you can bring them back without them having to undergo six months quarantine
- 14:38:00 [Joan_W]
- but, unfortunately beth, you have rabies in the USA and we don't here
- 14:38:48 [Joan_W]
- anyway, I cannot even get Henry to travel in a car without him creating an awful fuss, and that is just the 1/2 mile to the veterinary surgery
- 14:38:53 [Nyght]
- eww... that's nasty.. how horrible. Yes, I know rabies is something that happens here, but I think rabbid animals is almost as unheard of as scarlet fever anymore.. I could be wrong.
- 14:39:13 [Joan_W]
- I had scarlet fever as a child - but that was a long time ago
- 14:39:21 [Nyght]
- I know when I was concerned about it from a ground squirrel bite one of my kids got they told me I was being overly sensitve and concerned.
- 14:39:24 [Joan_W]
- I had to go to an isolation hospital for a month
- 14:39:48 [Nyght]
- That's scary, you're the first person I've heard of that's ever truly had any contact with it, yes less had it.
- 14:39:50 [inhouseuk]
- * inhouseuk has been looking at bringing his wifes dog from Ukraine to the UK. It's easier to wait until Ukraine join the EU, which is likely to happen within 5-7 years
- 14:40:08 [Joan_W]
- how old will the dog be then?
- 14:40:12 [Nyght]
- and as far as the vet goes. Would you want to go to the doctor?
- 14:40:22 [Joan_W]
- NO - I hate doctors
- 14:40:24 [Nyght]
- he doesn't think anything is "wrong" so why should he have to go to the vet. :D
- 14:40:53 [Joan_W]
- can't fault the logic, but he doesn't understand he has a food allergy
- 14:40:57 [Nyght]
- ouch inhouseuk, why so tough?
- 14:41:24 [inhouseuk]
- Joan_W: he's only 3 years old. He was a stray we picked up one year we were visting
- 14:41:39 [Nyght]
- He's not allergic to the food, it's just the food doesn't like him. If he didn't have that food around him, he'd be fine.... hmm, filet ala crab should work. :)
- 14:41:52 [inhouseuk]
- Nyght: mainly the costs involved with the 6 months quarantine
- 14:42:48 [Nyght]
- So, not only do they demand quarantine, they make you pay for it too?
- 14:42:56 [inhouseuk]
- yup
- 14:43:22 [Nyght]
- wow... messed up.. okay, if I'm going to be fleeing the U.S. I have to wait until my pets have lived a long long life and somehow find a way to not get more,.
- 14:45:16 [Joan_W]
- Just looked at the DEFRA website and you can take dogs and cats to and from the USA on the Pets Passport and it specifically excludes the Ukraine as it is not considered part of the Russian Federation
- 14:45:58 [inhouseuk]
- * inhouseuk nods
- 14:46:42 [Joan_W]
- anyway beth, you would not want me to bring Henry. He weighs 14 lbs. (not an ounce of it fat - all muscle) and he would eat you out of house and home
- 14:50:25 [Nyght]
- Sounds like my Nebulous.. he's quite the voracious eater... I guess because it would be such a hardship I could make an exception, but, he would be welcome.
- 14:50:30 [Joan_W]
- inhouse - check out http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/quarantine/pets/procedures/support-info/otherinfo.htm It says there that your pet can qualify for early release from quarantine. I suppose you would have to have all necessary inoculations done in the Ukraine and have documentation
- 14:51:39 [inhouseuk]
- Joan_W: remember my isp have work schedules between 17:00-18:00, you might loose irc for a while
- 14:52:19 [Joan_W]
- it's okay - I have to attend a council meeting between 17.00 and 19.00 today - Finance Committee - boring
- 14:52:54 [inhouseuk]
- Joan_W: yeah, but getting 'official' things done in Ukraine is fun. The process normailly goes a lot quicker with a little bribe
- 14:53:08 [Joan_W]
- how big is a little bribe
- 14:53:44 [inhouseuk]
- probably £50 above the cost of the normal procedure
- 14:54:08 [Joan_W]
- has your wife got any relatives in the Russian Federation?
- 14:54:38 [inhouseuk]
- nope, but she does have some property there
- 14:55:06 [inhouseuk]
- which was left to her by her grandfather
- 14:55:07 [Joan_W]
- then on your next visit, go to that property and have the dog vaccinated and whatnot in the Russian Federation
- 14:56:06 [Joan_W]
- devious, but needs must
- 14:56:13 [inhouseuk]
- not so easy. It's a 2 day journey from where the dog is to the property in Russia. and the property is rented out to a family
- 14:56:22 [Joan_W]
- bugger!
- 14:56:36 [Joan_W]
- * Joan_W slaps Joan
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- 14:58:53 [Joan_W]
- anyway, if I have to go to this council meeting, I had better go get washed and changed and look a bit like a councillor. Talk to you all later
- 14:59:03 [inhouseuk]
- have fun
- 14:59:14 [catmo]
- btw: votes please? http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=4868017
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- 15:27:12 [HairMetalAddict]
- Is it just me, or does this mod make no sense? http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=4851042 (It's the only mod this moderator's done that requires a vote)
- 15:28:32 [Shepard]
- perhaps they want to change one artist to a collaboration. ask them
- 15:29:00 [HairMetalAddict]
- AFAIK all the music is Lindsey's. Though it's been a long time since I heard it...
- 15:30:27 [HairMetalAddict]
- Well, my brain's fried. It's VA. Just no artists were changed.
- 15:30:45 [HairMetalAddict]
- http://www.fleetwoodmac.net/penguin/albums/vacation.htm
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- 15:37:25 [ojnkpjg]
- i like to add the 4th or 5th yes votes on mods pasted in here
- 15:37:27 [ojnkpjg]
- just for good measure.
- 15:37:31 [ojnkpjg]
- er, vote.
- 15:40:19 [ojnkpjg]
- HMA, that is a seriously ugly, 1997-looking web page :P
- 15:42:08 [ojnkpjg]
- he has to wait for the mod to go through before he can change any artists
- 15:46:23 [inhouseuk]
- I thought the convert to multiple artists took you through a sequence of screens to change the tracks/artists
- 15:47:30 [inhouseuk]
- * inhouseuk goes to have fun dodging rain drops
- 15:49:55 [ojnkpjg]
- i forget if it does or doesn't
- 15:50:56 [ojnkpjg]
- maybe he put the convert in first to avoid wasting his time if it happened to get voted down
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- 16:19:17 [nikki_]
- NO MORE ELECTRONICS! :D
- 16:20:01 [Shepard]
- wait until you study...
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- 16:20:15 [catmo]
- uuuhhhhuuuhhh
- 16:20:19 [catmo]
- uuhhhhh
- 16:20:33 [nikki_]
- study?
- 16:20:39 [catmo]
- uh?
- 16:20:49 [Shepard]
- * Shepard thinks mo is an owl
- 16:20:55 [nikki_]
- haha
- 16:20:56 [catmo]
- uhuh
- 16:21:02 [catmo]
- (that means no)
- 16:21:02 [nikki_]
- isn't mo up a bit early for an owl? :)
- 16:21:17 [catmo]
- ja jbleshh
- 16:21:25 [catmo]
- today was depressing
- 16:21:35 [nikki_]
- today is OVER WITH! :D
- 16:21:39 [catmo]
- gdepressing weather, depressing test results..
- 16:21:39 [nikki_]
- * nikki_ is overjoyed
- 16:21:51 [catmo]
- good for you nikki
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- 16:22:27 [nikki_]
- I answered the question about "what could this circuit be used for?" with "to set as an exam question" because I always get told to write something and I never know what to write
- 16:22:51 [catmo]
- giggle
- 16:22:52 [nikki_]
- it's technically right! but I bet I don't get the mark *pout*
- 16:22:56 [catmo]
- * catmo is listening to: Various Artists - Sonny & Cher - I Got You Babe (3:08)
- 16:23:09 [nikki_]
- * nikki_ prods shep
- 16:23:12 [Shepard]
- <nikki_> isn't mo up a bit early for an owl? :) <- as we say here: the early bird catches the worm
- 16:23:21 [nikki_]
- we say that here too
- 16:23:31 [catmo]
- hmmph, so I went form being a cat to being a bird?
- 16:23:32 [Shepard]
- like that?
- 16:23:34 [catmo]
- great
- 16:23:37 [catmo]
- a bird cat :p
- 16:23:38 [nikki_]
- yup, exactly
- 16:23:43 [Shepard]
- good to know
- 16:23:43 [nikki_]
- a cat with wings?
- 16:23:53 [catmo]
- meow! watch out sparrows
- 16:23:57 [nikki_]
- haha
- 16:24:01 [nikki_]
- go after the starlings instead
- 16:24:06 [nikki_]
- or that bloody magpie >(
- 16:24:09 [catmo]
- we say.. if cats had wings, then the sparrow would be extinct
- 16:24:18 [nikki_]
- it apparently ate a thrush's chicks :(
- 16:24:18 [catmo]
- magpies \o/
- 16:24:43 [catmo]
- * catmo doesn't knowwhat a starling is nor a trhuses chicks?
- 16:25:12 [nikki_]
- starlings are loud greedy birds who appear in huge groups
- 16:25:17 [catmo]
- * catmo only knowes magbie, crow, sparrow and duck
- 16:25:21 [nikki_]
- thrushes have a speckled chest
- 16:25:23 [catmo]
- oh and swan and penguin
- 16:25:25 [catmo]
- no others
- 16:25:29 [catmo]
- uhm
- 16:25:42 [catmo]
- * catmo doesn't know any birds with specked chests
- 16:26:02 [catmo]
- damn.. midday dinnertime burnout time
- 16:26:09 [catmo]
- was woken rudely at 6:00
- 16:26:20 [catmo]
- then tried to slumber for half an hour
- 16:26:21 [nikki_]
- http://www.birdfoto.fsnet.co.uk/scillies2002/songthrush.html
- 16:26:27 [catmo]
- slept lik craps this night too
- 16:27:04 [catmo]
- heh it looks like a gjøk
- 16:27:07 [catmo]
- erh
- 16:27:09 [catmo]
- cucoo
- 16:27:30 [catmo]
- sweet ^^
- 16:27:52 [nikki_]
- http://www.javajane.co.uk/animal/birds/starlings.jpg
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- 16:28:32 [nikki_]
- we get blackbirds, sparrows and sometimes blue tits, robins and thrushes, but the starlings tend to eat all the food if we try and feed them :/
- 16:29:05 [catmo]
- * catmo wonders if bluetit is blåmeis
- 16:29:22 [nikki_]
- http://www.ghmahoney.org.uk/photography/Photos/Birds/slides/IMG_0281.jpg
- 16:29:37 [catmo]
- wow 'starelings' are strange birds. don't look like anything I've seen before
- 16:29:53 [Shepard]
- we have finches in the birdhouse in the garden :o
- 16:30:05 [catmo]
- :o blåmeis!
- 16:30:16 [catmo]
- I have blåmeis o nmy bird food
- 16:30:25 [nikki_]
- we don't get many :(
- 16:30:28 [catmo]
- they're very agressive and chase all the others away :p
- 16:30:37 [nikki_]
- ours don't!
- 16:30:41 [nikki_]
- ours are shy
- 16:30:46 [catmo]
- mostly there is sparrows and kjøttmeis
- 16:30:48 [nikki_]
- "eek! another bird!!"
- 16:30:58 [catmo]
- up here they ned to be tough :)
- 16:31:02 [catmo]
- viking bluetit
- 16:31:37 [catmo]
- http://www.birdart.fsnet.co.uk/mikepage.jpg those are dompap
- 16:31:41 [catmo]
- dompapp
- 16:31:47 [catmo]
- dunno how to spell :/
- 16:32:00 [nikki_]
- ah, kjøttmeis = great tit!
- 16:32:09 [tru]
- tits?
- 16:32:11 [tru]
- where?
- 16:32:16 [nikki_]
- perv
- 16:32:27 [nikki_]
- catmo: I've never seen that one before :o
- 16:32:27 [catmo]
- I knew someone whas gign to say something like that
- 16:32:35 [catmo]
- you english has such silly name for a bird :p
- 16:33:11 [nikki_]
- well, it meant the bird before someone made it mean breasts :o
- 16:33:15 [tru]
- like austrial and american thong :D
- 16:33:16 [catmo]
- that green thing I was talking about was spettmeis
- 16:33:24 [catmo]
- :o
- 16:33:54 [nikki_]
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titmouse <- lots of tits! :o
- 16:34:46 [tru]
- catmo: http://wiki.xmms2.xmms.se/index.php/IRC_Quotes/2005#2005-06-02
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- 16:35:05 [catmo]
- http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/38/Parus_major_4_(Marek_Szczepanek).jpg/250px-Parus_major_4_(Marek_Szczepanek).jpg that's a kjøttmeis
- 16:35:11 [catmo]
- eek stupid irc
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- 16:36:15 [catmo]
- ooh
- 16:36:26 [catmo]
- also dude, tru, you're i n the one above
- 16:36:52 [catmo]
- you're i n that one too hrey wtf?
- 16:36:56 [catmo]
- this guy gets around
- 16:37:52 [tru]
- well. I guess I hang out a lot on the channel of my software :)
- 16:38:05 [catmo]
- .o
- 16:38:09 [catmo]
- ok
- 16:41:21 [catmo]
- "is that a typo or are you jsut excited to see me?" roffl
- 16:41:37 [tru]
- :)
- 16:43:05 [catmo]
- ohoh! I understand the swedish :]
- 16:45:10 [BrianG]
- !seen derGraph
- 16:45:11 [BrainzBot]
- I saw derGraph 5 days 16 hours 59 minutes and 34 seconds ago, leaving the channel with message: "assign(user,realworld)"
- 16:45:26 [catmo]
- "jag tror min mirkk försvann in i en tunnel." lol
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- stupid netnode
- 16:54:42 [catmo_]
- freenode unlogged me
- 16:54:45 [catmo_]
- how annoying
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- 17:03:04 [catmo_]
- oh! dompapp is called BULLFINCHES
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- 17:09:30 [ruaok]
- time-of-klepto!
- 17:09:44 [catmo_]
- hi ruaok'
- 17:10:53 [ruaok]
- hi!
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- 17:16:20 [nikki_]
- hi ruaok!
- 17:16:36 [Shepard]
- ave ruaokus, kleptatis wagadurium!
- 17:16:49 [catmo_]
- dude
- 17:16:56 [catmo_]
- rule sheppixus
- 17:17:26 [nikki_]
- latin?
- 17:17:36 [catmo_]
- bogusaltin â¢
- 17:17:41 [nikki_]
- well, yeah
- 17:17:45 [nikki_]
- * nikki_ likes german more.
- 17:17:45 [catmo_]
- boguslatin â¢
- 17:18:00 [catmo_]
- boguslatin can be nice sometimes
- 17:18:16 [catmo_]
- when used in moeration
- 17:18:23 [catmo_]
- moderation
- 17:18:42 [nikki_]
- kleptatis sounds like a disease :/
- 17:18:45 [catmo_]
- moderate wth moderation
- 17:19:01 [catmo_]
- nei da
- 17:19:19 [catmo_]
- somebody's merging into Various Artists again
- 17:20:30 [Shepard]
- well then kleptante or something
- 17:20:44 [Muz]
- * Muz would like to merge in with women...
- 17:20:48 [Muz]
- * Muz votes yes
- 17:21:14 [catmo_]
- dude
- 17:22:04 [catmo_]
- its' a good thing I'm as incoherent as I am right now. else my incoherent brain would make me write things of a very criminal and pervy nature
- 17:22:16 [catmo_]
- involving cornholes
- 17:22:17 [catmo_]
- :x
- 17:22:38 [catmo_]
- * catmo_ promptly passes out
- 17:23:45 [nikki_]
- * nikki_ carries mo off to bed because passing out on the keyboard can't be comfy
- 17:24:43 [catmo_]
- * catmo_ has a dogbasketthat he sits in infront of the comp which he can slee pin
- 17:28:03 [ruaok]
- * ruaok likes wagadurium
- 17:28:26 [nikki_]
- * nikki_ too
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- 17:32:03 [catmo_]
- * catmo_ tree
- 17:32:07 [catmo_]
- uh
- 17:32:09 [catmo_]
- yanno
- 17:32:22 [catmo_]
- * catmo_ is listening to: Various Artists - The Zombies - She's Not There (2:25)
- 17:33:02 [inhouseuk]
- * inhouseuk is listening to: Do I Move You from The Very Best of Nina Simone by Nina Simone
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- 17:51:15 [BrianG]
- * BrianG is listening to Grace Potter and the Nocturnals - Nothing but the Water - 1. Toothbrush and My Table (4:29)
- 17:51:40 [BrianG]
- i have to figure out how to make that not bold
- 17:52:23 [BrianG]
- i dont want to scare anyone witht he bold
- 17:59:39 [catmo_]
- * catmo_ away!s dusj
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- 18:04:09 [srotta]
- Hello.
- 18:04:53 [Shepard]
- hi
- 18:04:54 [srotta]
- Just a quick question. I'm adding Extreme's III Sides to Every Story, and I was wondering, how would you add the last track, which has three tracks merged into one?
- 18:05:15 [srotta]
- "Separate with slashes" would work fine, but they have also a common title.
- 18:05:27 [srotta]
- ... and part number. :P
- 18:05:30 [Shepard]
- are they parts of a song?
- 18:05:53 [srotta]
- I guess you could say that.
- 18:06:19 [Shepard]
- Song Title: I. Part Title - II. Part Title ...
- 18:06:26 [Shepard]
- or any other numbering scheme
- 18:06:51 [srotta]
- Separate with dash? Ok.
- 18:06:56 [djce]
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- 18:07:16 [srotta]
- That album was in the MB earlier, but someone thought it didn't exist and it was removed :P
- 18:08:17 [srotta]
- Back then it was apparently titled so that the part titles were in parenthesis. Damn ugly 8)
- 18:11:24 [Kerensky97]
- make sure you add a link or two that proves it's real and hopefully it won't get axed again.
- 18:14:17 [srotta]
- Yeah, well... All the album covers state that the last track is a three-part song. The delete note stated that even though they say so, "all the versions have it on three separate tracks".
- 18:14:36 [srotta]
- It's sort of hard to dispute that 8)
- 18:15:12 [Shepard]
- do you own the version with them combined?
- 18:15:29 [Shepard]
- and which artist are we talking about? *interested* :)
- 18:17:47 [srotta]
- Extreme.
- 18:18:10 [ruaok]
- * ruaok runs off to the office.
- 18:18:12 [ruaok]
- bbiab!
- 18:18:13 [ruaok]
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- 18:18:27 [srotta]
- I borrowed it from the local library. I have borrowed it before, so I knew it existed, but I wasn't subscribed to them back when the album was removed.
- 18:23:29 [Shepard]
- ah
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- 18:33:39 [keschte]
- bleep!
- 18:41:27 [srotta]
- http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=4869811 Here's the mod.
- 18:47:03 [nikki_]
- hi keschte
- 18:47:13 [keschte]
- * keschte waves
- 18:48:19 [Shepard]
- tag keschte
- 18:51:25 [keschte]
- hi
- 18:52:58 [Shepard]
- wie geht's, wie steht's?
- 18:53:01 [mudcrow]
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- 18:53:10 [mudcrow]
- hi
- 18:53:16 [Shepard]
- hi mudcrow
- 18:53:20 [nikki_]
- ...wie steht's?
- 18:53:32 [nikki_]
- * nikki_ wonders if the answer is upright
- 18:53:55 [keschte]
- Shepard: hochschwanger mit mb_server :)
- 18:54:28 [Shepard]
- * Shepard shakes his head at nikki
- 18:54:43 [Shepard]
- keschte: oh, wann ist es denn soweit?
- 18:55:02 [Shepard]
- und wird es ein junge oder ein mädchen? ;)
- 18:55:33 [keschte]
- ein bastard :)
- 18:55:49 [nikki_]
- hahaha
- 18:56:03 [keschte]
- growl! nikki_ just asked me when artistpageredesign is scheduled for
- 18:56:06 [Shepard]
- ...
- 18:56:14 [keschte]
- * keschte runs away
- 18:56:21 [nikki_]
- noooo!
- 18:56:27 [nikki_]
- * nikki_ clings to keschte's right leg
- 18:56:40 [nikki_]
- keschte: the right answer is "when it's ready" ;)
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- 18:56:51 [keschte]
- * keschte mobilizes unhuman strenght and still manages to run away
- 18:56:57 [srotta]
- Shepard: Heh, sort of interesting. My album, has exactly the same backcover as in the link you put in the note (last tracks listed as separate), but the cd has them on one track :P
- 18:56:58 [nikki_]
- aww, sorry!
- 18:57:39 [Muz]
- Muz is now known as Muz_
- 18:57:41 [keschte]
- nikki_: i'm just making fun of you
- 18:58:02 [nikki_]
- well... um... bah! *pout*
- 18:58:52 [keschte]
- :)
- 18:59:02 [keschte]
- but since you asked. i have no idea
- 18:59:31 [Shepard]
- srotta: well no idea if that is the cover for your version or the other one :)
- 18:59:38 [keschte]
- the current release is *much* more work than i anticipated
- 18:59:46 [keschte]
- i think i'll take a break
- 18:59:48 [srotta]
- Shepard: Yep 8)
- 19:00:30 [srotta]
- Shepard: I didn't even notice that, although I have a vague feeling that I've seen also a version of the backcover that has only one track number for the last three tracks.
- 19:01:54 [nikki_]
- keschte: and I'm being unhelpfully busy and just ask annoying questions :(
- 19:02:31 [keschte]
- right now, i'm just tying loose ends
- 19:02:41 [keschte]
- most of the things work, i think
- 19:05:21 [srotta]
- Kerensky97: My cd says 54006-2, so... :P
- 19:05:56 [enjayhch]
- is work being done to make the musicbrainz search engine work?
- 19:06:07 [enjayhch]
- I am having lots of issues with it :(
- 19:06:27 [enjayhch]
- particularly because the web service uses it
- 19:07:36 [Kerensky97]
- srotta: yeah I got ahead of myself, and realized you have all the info in front of you.
- 19:08:52 [srotta]
- No problem 8)
- 19:09:24 [keschte]
- enjayhch: ask ruaok
- 19:09:28 [Spike`]
- heya ruak
- 19:09:53 [yalaforge]
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- 19:09:58 [`Spike]
- heya
- 19:10:16 [`Spike]
- oh
- 19:10:19 [`Spike]
- ruak isn't even here
- 19:10:19 [`Spike]
- heh
- 19:10:20 [`Spike]
- nm then
- 19:10:36 [Shepard]
- hi yalaforge
- 19:10:44 [yalaforge]
- hey
- 19:12:11 [nikki_]
- matthias!
- 19:12:43 [`Spike]
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- 19:20:40 [ruaok]
- * ruaok still hates allergies
- 19:31:38 [enjayhch]
- ruaok: any plans to improve the musicbrainz search engine?
- 19:31:46 [ruaok]
- yes
- 19:31:52 [ruaok]
- I have a pile of bugs to fix.
- 19:31:58 [enjayhch]
- been having a few problems matching tracks with the web service
- 19:32:34 [enjayhch]
- would it help for me to submit examples of my problems?
- 19:32:45 [ruaok]
- gimme one example.
- 19:33:08 [yalaforge]
- * yalaforge thinks he could add some more bug reports but isn't in the mood right now
- 19:33:08 [enjayhch]
- artist: Thirteen:13
- 19:33:31 [ruaok]
- * ruaok waves at yalaforge
- 19:33:38 [yalaforge]
- * yalaforge waves back
- 19:33:43 [ruaok]
- enjayhch: say no more.
- 19:33:49 [enjayhch]
- artist: The Vines (comes lower than the "Brian Knight & Toni Vines")
- 19:33:50 [ruaok]
- the colon will bugger it up.
- 19:33:51 [enjayhch]
- ok
- 19:33:55 [ruaok]
- search without the colon.
- 19:34:16 [yalaforge]
- is it fed to the query parser?
- 19:34:32 [ruaok]
- yalaforge: what bugs do you have that aren't in trac
- 19:34:39 [ruaok]
- yalaforge: yes
- 19:34:59 [ruaok]
- for track lookups I need to remove punctuation
- 19:35:06 [enjayhch]
- artist: Will Young (doesn't find him)
- 19:35:18 [yalaforge]
- wouldn't it be better to use a term query for those non-interactive searches?
- 19:35:18 [ruaok]
- enjayhch: ok, I know about these bugs.
- 19:35:24 [enjayhch]
- ok cool :)
- 19:35:28 [ruaok]
- hold off until I fix those and then we'll see further.
- 19:35:39 [enjayhch]
- sure
- 19:35:42 [nikki_]
- hi ruaok!
- 19:35:42 [ruaok]
- yalaforge: maybe.
- 19:35:46 [ruaok]
- hi nikki_
- 19:35:57 [ruaok]
- yalaforge: problem is that I found some bugs in lucene.
- 19:36:11 [ruaok]
- if I build my own queries, nothing is found.
- 19:36:30 [yalaforge]
- * yalaforge never had problems with custom built queries
- 19:36:33 [ruaok]
- if I take the queries that I constructed and turn themn back to text and then feed the text to the QP, it finds them.
- 19:36:52 [yalaforge]
- weird.
- 19:37:05 [ruaok]
- I had that problem on more than one occaison.
- 19:37:11 [ruaok]
- but it might be some strange analyzer issue.
- 19:37:19 [ruaok]
- the analyzers also work weird.
- 19:37:28 [yalaforge]
- anything where python could be in the way?
- 19:37:39 [ruaok]
- I probably need to write custom analyzers for our searches
- 19:37:54 [ruaok]
- yalaforge: not sure. its hard to tell.
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- 19:38:05 [yalaforge]
- k
- 19:38:25 [ruaok]
- hmmm. maybe you can help me understand something.
- 19:38:31 [ruaok]
- you're smart and all that, right? :-)
- 19:38:37 [yalaforge]
- * yalaforge hasn't used lucene in a while
- 19:38:43 [yalaforge]
- me? no
- 19:39:10 [ruaok]
- its more a general python question.
- 19:39:32 [enjayhch]
- any instructions for installing MB Server from SVN yet?
- 19:39:39 [yalaforge]
- ruaok: shoot
- 19:40:11 [yalaforge]
- enjayhch: I don't think it's much different from using cvs ...
- 19:40:34 [yalaforge]
- or is svn the problem?
- 19:40:45 [ruaok]
- oooh. lucene 1.9.1 is now supported by pylucene. I will probably upgrade our search to that and see what issues I find there.
- 19:41:03 [enjayhch]
- do I checkout tags/RELEASE-20060310 ?
- 19:41:06 [ruaok]
- enjayhch: the checkout is different, the rest is the same.
- 19:41:10 [ruaok]
- enjayhch: yes
- 19:41:14 [enjayhch]
- ok
- 19:41:21 [yalaforge]
- err, shouldn't it be a branch?
- 19:41:46 [enjayhch]
- no idea
- 19:42:03 [yalaforge]
- it's just a convention in svn
- 19:43:00 [yalaforge]
- yes, there seems to be a branch
- 19:43:11 [ruaok]
- yalaforge is right: http://svn.musicbrainz.org/mb_server/branches/RELEASE_20060310-BRANCH/
- 19:43:33 [yalaforge]
- svn co http://svn.musicbrainz.org/mb_server/branches/RELEASE_20060310-BRANCH/ mb_server
- 19:46:00 [ruaok]
- yalaforge: http://pastebin.se/2828
- 19:46:41 [yalaforge]
- * yalaforge looks
- 19:46:56 [ruaok]
- never mind.
- 19:47:05 [ruaok]
- now that I look at it not all stressed out, I see how it works.
- 19:47:18 [ruaok]
- previously when I was balls out stressed it never made sense to me.
- 19:47:44 [yalaforge]
- * yalaforge can reproduce it
- 19:47:50 [yalaforge]
- now I'm all stressed out ;-)
- 19:50:30 [ruaok]
- :-)
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- * keschte waves at yalaforge + ruaok
- 20:00:20 [yalaforge]
- hi
- 20:03:13 [ruaok]
- heya!
- 20:03:31 [nikki_]
- aww yay
- 20:03:41 [nikki_]
- lots of german speakers!
- 20:03:47 [yalaforge]
- hä?
- 20:03:52 [ruaok]
- wie bitte?
- 20:03:55 [yalaforge]
- äh, wie bitte!
- 20:04:02 [nikki_]
- * nikki_ giggles madly
- 20:04:09 [ruaok]
- dein bahnhof hat keine bratkartoffeln!
- 20:04:11 [Rexroom]
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- 20:05:17 [Rexroom]
- hullo
- 20:05:40 [yalaforge]
- moin!
- 20:05:41 [nikki_]
- and fuchs is alive! :) (even though he vanished again...)
- 20:05:50 [nikki_]
- that makes... lots!
- 20:06:57 [Shepard]
- ruaok: und nachts ist es kälter als draußen!
- 20:07:40 [nikki_]
- err...
- 20:07:56 [yalaforge]
- viel kälter. *brr*
- 20:09:40 [nikki_]
- * nikki_ understands all the words...
- 20:10:05 [yalaforge]
- well, there's not more to it
- 20:10:15 [nikki_]
- ah, you're just strange.
- 20:10:17 [Shepard]
- und zu fuß ist es kürzer als über den berg...
- 20:10:27 [yalaforge]
- correctly translated it wouldn't make more sense
- 20:10:29 [Rexroom]
- well, I was right about facing resistance over country-tags in songs
- 20:10:39 [Rexroom]
- http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=4860350
- 20:11:28 [Shepard]
- oh oh! I can vote no!
- 20:11:44 [Shepard]
- do you have more of those? :)
- 20:13:11 [ruaok]
- djce: ping!
- 20:13:49 [yalaforge]
- tsk. nikki is abstaining now
- 20:13:54 [nikki_]
- yeah.
- 20:13:56 [ruaok]
- tronger!
- 20:14:17 [yalaforge]
- * yalaforge voted to restore the original values ;-)
- 20:14:39 [nikki_]
- I thought about it more and realised I hate the countries in the titles but I like (album version) and then I get a bit inconsistent and confuse myself
- 20:15:51 [nikki_]
- I hate it when (album version) gets removed from tracks on singles
- 20:16:44 [tru]
- imho that's another thing.
- 20:17:03 [yalaforge]
- that would really annoy me if I used MB data for anything ;-)
- 20:17:53 [Shepard]
- * Shepard luckily does not have any single in his collection that has (album version) on the cover
- 20:18:01 [Shepard]
- then again I only have two singles
- 20:18:22 [yalaforge]
- * yalaforge looks at his tori amos collection ...
- 20:19:17 [yalaforge]
- * yalaforge even has a sophie b. hawkins single
- 20:19:27 [yalaforge]
- I have no memory about buying that!
- 20:19:41 [nikki_]
- I have a single with (album version) on the cover
- 20:19:45 [nikki_]
- and shep removed it!
- 20:19:49 [nikki_]
- *megapout*
- 20:20:01 [nikki_]
- is there a pouting smiley?
- 20:20:07 [yalaforge]
- tsk, tsk. CoC, disputed edit, ...
- 20:21:03 [nikki_]
- I'm going to gather up all my electronics work!
- 20:21:07 [ruaok]
- :-[
- 20:21:08 [ruaok]
- ?
- 20:21:11 [Shepard]
- I removed it where?
- 20:21:19 [nikki_]
- and put it where I never have to see it again! :)
- 20:21:43 [yalaforge]
- * yalaforge likes burning things
- 20:22:02 [yalaforge]
- hmm, except burning computers, that was no fun
- 20:22:06 [nikki_]
- I burnt all my school work when I finished school.
- 20:22:16 [nikki_]
- little bonfire outside, it was fun!
- 20:22:19 [Shepard]
- * Shepard thinks he was the only one in his course who didn't burn his latin book
- 20:22:34 [nikki_]
- because I had several years worth of dead trees I could have recycled, but I hated school too much.
- 20:22:38 [nikki_]
- I didn't burn my textbooks
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- 20:23:24 [Shepard]
- * Shepard thinks he sees burning books too historical
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- 20:23:41 [Shepard]
- * Shepard also thinks that was denglisch
- 20:23:42 [yalaforge]
- yeah, me too
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- 20:23:50 [nikki_]
- Shepard: yes, it was.
- 20:23:58 [yalaforge]
- yes to both statements ;-)
- 20:24:26 [nikki_]
- all mine was A4 paper and stapled together sheets of A4 paper to make booklets
- 20:24:40 [nikki_]
- Shepard: http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=3870518 <- see!
- 20:24:48 [yalaforge]
- otoh, I feel really bad about having sold that database text book to a younger student ...
- 20:24:59 [yalaforge]
- * yalaforge should have given him money :-)
- 20:25:07 [nikki_]
- er?
- 20:25:14 [Shepard]
- nikki: hihihi..
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- 20:26:10 [nikki_]
- grml!!
- 20:26:20 [nikki_]
- he just vanishes!
- 20:26:58 [mudcrow]
- * mudcrow grumbles about the amount of tracks titled 99 Red Ballons
- 20:27:22 [Shepard]
- what's with them?
- 20:27:28 [mudcrow]
- and 99 Luft Balloons
- 20:27:37 [Shepard]
- well that is wrong :)
- 20:27:56 [mudcrow]
- balloons in english, ballons in German
- 20:27:59 [Rexroom]
- well, uh. I guess one's the english and the other's the german
- 20:28:04 [Rexroom]
- oh
- 20:28:08 [Rexroom]
- I see, heh
- 20:28:15 [Shepard]
- also Luftballon, not Luft Ballon
- 20:28:35 [Rexroom]
- that means only one thing, then
- 20:28:39 [Rexroom]
- mod the hell out of them :P
- 20:28:43 [mudcrow]
- yep, thats about the only German spelling I'm sure of
- 20:29:35 [nikki_]
- * nikki_ is sure about plenty of german spellings
- 20:29:48 [Shepard]
- which reminds me I have to split up nena correctly some day
- 20:30:15 [nikki_]
- ooh!
- 20:30:28 [nikki_]
- * nikki_ finds three bars of milka happy cows chocolate in her bag
- 20:30:38 [mudcrow]
- Nena has probably the most confusing artist annotation too,
- 20:31:11 [Shepard]
- thanks ;)
- 20:31:42 [mudcrow]
- the artist Nena (Nena Kerner) performed in the first part of her carreer with the Band Nena. I don't think that the Band Nena ever performed without the artist Nena. So if we consider the artist Nena a member of the Band 'Nena' i don't think that the albums have been moved.
- 20:31:45 [Shepard]
- oh, someone changed it
- 20:32:44 [Shepard]
- the band did not perform without her, that's correct. but she does perform without the band nowadays
- 20:33:56 [inhouseuk]
- mud similar to the Sade situation
- 20:34:40 [Shepard]
- it's a http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/BandWithMainPerformerName
- 20:34:41 [mudcrow]
- I understood the situation, it was the wording of the annotation that left me feeling confused
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- 20:43:52 [Shepard]
- mudcrow: rewrote it, hope it looks better now
- 20:44:32 [mudcrow]
- much better thanks :)
- 20:45:22 [mudcrow]
- * mudcrow plays 99 Red Balloons - 7Seconds
- 20:52:47 [Rexroom]
- seven seconds awayyy
- 20:53:47 [Shepard]
- narf
- 20:54:46 [mudcrow]
- there's some very strange albums in the db http://musicbrainz.org/album/6914eec1-48e4-46ec-bccd-34515015cb44.html
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- 20:56:51 [Shepard]
- hi sen
- 20:56:51 [Kerensky97]
- U-oh, I believe track #52 is supposed to be Late Diastolic Murmur!
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- 21:00:13 [demonhunter]
- Abend!
- 21:00:46 [ruaok]
- n'abend!
- 21:02:57 [inhouseuk]
- * inhouseuk knows Abend in relation to IBM mainframes, where it stands for 'Abnormal End'
- 21:03:30 [ruaok]
- * ruaok was just thinking about that.
- 21:06:32 [nikki_]
- * nikki_ shrieks
- 21:07:04 [nikki_]
- my page of mods on my subscribed artists grew to *38* pages
- 21:07:19 [Shepard]
- happy voting :)
- 21:07:25 [nikki_]
- I had it down to 10 just the other day too ;_;
- 21:13:04 [Kerensky97]
- I'm sorry, alot is me.
- 21:13:37 [ruaok]
- oh, who linked to MB?
- 21:13:47 [ruaok]
- our load is nearly quadruple of what it normally is.
- 21:14:19 [Kerensky97]
- last.fm is linking MB again, could that be it?
- 21:14:22 [Shepard]
- we got [put fancy well known site here]ed!
- 21:14:49 [ruaok]
- Kerensky97: no, that happened last week (or even earlier)
- 21:14:54 [ruaok]
- something in the last 12 hours.
- 21:15:03 [nikki_]
- Kerensky97: not all
- 21:15:08 [flamingcow]
- ruaok: referrer headers?
- 21:15:30 [ruaok]
- won't be evaluated until much later today.
- 21:16:08 [Kerensky97]
- * Kerensky97 gives nikki a back rub to apologize for increasing her workload.
- 21:16:18 [nikki_]
- http://musicbrainz.org/mod/search/results.html?mod_status=1&artist_id=10522&artist_type=3 accounts for 18 of those 38 pages
- 21:16:25 [ruaok]
- any old skool tagger users in the house?
- 21:18:29 [catmo_]
- you
- 21:18:34 [catmo_]
- you
- 21:18:36 [catmo_]
- wtf
- 21:18:43 [catmo_]
- yo even
- 21:19:04 [catmo_]
- I use the old tagger
- 21:19:42 [catmo_]
- anyone?
- 21:19:47 [ruaok]
- are you currently seeing the tag buttons?
- 21:19:48 [Kerensky97]
- ??? http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=4866911 that doesn't fit the style guides does it?
- 21:19:49 [catmo_]
- catmo_ is now known as catmo
- 21:19:49 [ojnkpjg]
- just you
- 21:19:52 [ojnkpjg]
- :P
- 21:20:00 [Kerensky97]
- * Kerensky97 is a picard convert now
- 21:20:21 [catmo]
- ru give me a sec and I'll start it and see
- 21:20:40 [catmo]
- btw: the picard tagger icon goes away very fast for beta 2 and 3
- 21:21:02 [ojnkpjg]
- i don't know about that release, but there's all kinds of strange stuff in japanese release titles
- 21:21:07 [ojnkpjg]
- lots of caps and ~ chars
- 21:21:11 [ojnkpjg]
- so who knows
- 21:21:13 [catmo]
- you have to manke it search for an album and then refersh . you don't get the thing with actually looking up a discx fex
- 21:21:13 [nikki_]
- Kerensky97: I'd say it doesn't
- 21:21:30 [nikki_]
- discx fex?
- 21:21:31 [Kerensky97]
- changing () to "" seems wrong to me.
- 21:21:37 [nikki_]
- it's wrong to me too
- 21:21:40 [catmo]
- disc for example
- 21:21:41 [ojnkpjg]
- oh, that part
- 21:21:43 [nikki_]
- ah
- 21:21:49 [ojnkpjg]
- yeah, definitely
- 21:22:00 [ojnkpjg]
- i thought you meant the -Instrumental-
- 21:22:13 [Kerensky97]
- That mod is doing alot of () to "" edits.
- 21:22:17 [catmo]
- yupp: I se the tag icons, ru
- 21:22:26 [ruaok]
- thanks!
- 21:22:33 [ojnkpjg]
- bomb them with mod notes :P
- 21:22:41 [catmo]
- however if I edit the lookup bit onsite they disapaer
- 21:23:23 [catmo]
- so I gotta then go to ->album ->locate track -> click tag
- 21:24:12 [Kerensky97]
- I think they did most of the Ayumi Hamasaki discography like that. I'm going to feel bad telling them to wipe it all, that's alot of work.
- 21:26:31 [catmo]
- hey guess what. there are over 50 albums in uriah heep (some have disc ids, and other not). and guess what the one and only uriah heep cd they hadd in my library is?
- 21:26:34 [catmo]
- not i n the database
- 21:26:40 [catmo]
- well the album is, but not the disc id!
- 21:26:50 [catmo]
- how cool is that
- 21:27:07 [toxickore]
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- 21:27:10 [catmo]
- i'm going to add the conectino to which disc id belongs to which release label
- 21:27:14 [ojnkpjg]
- tres cool
- 21:27:19 [catmo]
- in the annotiation
- 21:27:25 [catmo]
- I know!
- 21:27:45 [ojnkpjg]
- i've been thinking about getting a part time job in a record shop on weekends
- 21:27:51 [ojnkpjg]
- just for music discounts and access to cds
- 21:28:03 [catmo]
- * catmo drools at the idea
- 21:28:19 [ojnkpjg]
- i might completely burn myself out if i do it
- 21:28:33 [catmo]
- you could shortly but surely completely add the entire rcord shop to mb
- 21:28:34 [catmo]
- aww
- 21:28:37 [ojnkpjg]
- hehe
- 21:28:46 [ojnkpjg]
- i'd ask to be paid in music
- 21:28:50 [ojnkpjg]
- that way i don't pay taxes
- 21:28:55 [catmo]
- sweeet
- 21:29:01 [ojnkpjg]
- i think it's a pipedream :P
- 21:29:14 [ojnkpjg]
- but it'd be nice if i could find a place that'd agree
- 21:29:41 [Shepard]
- what, mo got infected by ReleaseAnnotationStyle?
- 21:29:43 [catmo]
- however I'm buying this, (or another UH edition of Deamons and mosnsters) (throught MB) because I lie kthis shit.
- 21:30:12 [ojnkpjg]
- who started that stuff, anyway? teleguise?
- 21:30:17 [catmo]
- no, mo uses BloodyTheOwnTypeOfStyle
- 21:31:00 [Shepard]
- well connecting disc ids with release info is no new idea :P
- 21:31:12 [ojnkpjg]
- i mean putting it in the annotation
- 21:31:16 [catmo]
- I use the format that makes the most sense to me, as I will (probably) be the one to add the release bits in the apropriate fields when aplicable
- 21:31:28 [catmo]
- well no, I know this
- 21:31:33 [ojnkpjg]
- (and prodding others to do the same)
- 21:31:39 [catmo]
- it was tele
- 21:31:53 [catmo]
- the annoying bastard :p
- 21:31:56 [ojnkpjg]
- hehe
- 21:32:00 [catmo]
- I kid, I kid
- 21:32:01 [catmo]
- :)
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- 21:36:57 [Shepard]
- hi yllona
- 21:37:05 [yllona]
- hello shep
- 21:38:07 [catmo]
- hey guys. what does you think of the new way of displaying the votes tally? record
- 21:38:15 [catmo]
- for exmple http://test.musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=6536
- 21:38:56 [catmo]
- http://test.musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=65365
- 21:39:02 [yllona]
- do i use my normal log in for teh test DB?
- 21:39:06 [catmo]
- yes
- 21:39:34 [catmo]
- * catmo tries to find a modf with many difernt yes or no votes, and people lchangeing votes
- 21:39:36 [Shepard]
- I hate that it always forgets it :(
- 21:39:40 [djce]
- ruaok: pong! (latency: 1h 26min)
- 21:40:13 [nikki_]
- haha
- 21:40:23 [yllona]
- mo: i like the new interface. much easier to read
- 21:40:51 [catmo]
- but imagine if the votes where many like for example on http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=4860350
- 21:40:54 [nikki_]
- djce: you should get that lag checked out, it doesn't sound healthy ;)
- 21:40:59 [catmo]
- where many changed theirt minds
- 21:41:05 [djce]
- Yeah, but no packet loss :-)
- 21:41:05 [ruaok]
- djce: hi!
- 21:41:07 [djce]
- hi
- 21:41:11 [catmo]
- how to very simply tell if it has a maojority of yes or no
- 21:41:34 [catmo]
- I like the comapcter style, but I find the 2 : 0 type seeing a bit confusing
- 21:41:35 [yllona]
- my main concern is time stamps on comment and votes :)
- 21:41:37 [ruaok]
- djce: now that we have the mysterious mirroring issue solved, shall we attempt to move the service again?
- 21:41:46 [djce]
- it's solved is it?
- 21:41:51 [catmo]
- yes but we're discussino that other thing right now
- 21:41:52 [ruaok]
- isn't it?
- 21:42:00 [djce]
- yup, it is now.
- 21:42:09 [ruaok]
- ok.
- 21:42:10 [djce]
- It wasn't a couple of hours ago.
- 21:42:14 [catmo]
- for me it needs more visiual ques as to which number stands for yes and which number stands for no
- 21:42:31 [djce]
- So yes, I can do DNS again if you like.
- 21:42:31 [toxickore]
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- 21:42:52 [ruaok]
- let's do this: 1) allow users to download packets via HTTP from data.mb.org even after the switch. This gives a fallback in case something goes wrong again. 2) then switch ftp.mb.org over
- 21:42:57 [nikki_]
- catmo: agreed
- 21:43:05 [ruaok]
- djce: can you turn down the TTL a little bit?
- 21:43:18 [ruaok]
- so that if something gets borked, we can turn it around a little faster this time.
- 21:43:19 [djce]
- on what name, to what level?
- 21:43:33 [ruaok]
- ftp.mb.org -- 3 hours?
- 21:43:38 [djce]
- "ftp" has been at 300sec for days now
- 21:43:48 [ruaok]
- perfect then!
- 21:43:57 [djce]
- * djce goes to set up data.mb.org
- 21:44:11 [ruaok]
- * ruaok checks to make sure everything is ok
- 21:45:26 [ruaok]
- djce: scratch the move, the replication packets are not up to date.
- 21:45:37 [djce]
- ok.
- 21:45:42 [djce]
- data.mb.org is set up anyway.
- 21:45:45 [ruaok]
- didn't they say that they'd restarted everything?
- 21:45:49 [ruaok]
- thanks!
- 21:45:55 [djce]
- replication looks ok to me.
- 21:46:10 [ruaok]
- http://musicbrainz.osuosl.org/pub/musicbrainz/data/replication/
- 21:46:17 [ruaok]
- has the last packet from may 14th
- 21:46:32 [djce]
- not for me.
- 21:46:35 [djce]
- HTTP cache?
- 21:46:43 [djce]
- I saw 14th earlier on today.
- 21:46:50 [djce]
- But now I'm seeing it up to date.
- 21:46:59 [djce]
- or load balancing of some sort?
- 21:47:10 [ruaok]
- * ruaok has hit refresh a number of times
- 21:47:37 [ruaok]
- nope. I keep seeing the old. even with a different browser.
- 21:47:47 [djce]
- Load balancing then.
- 21:48:46 [djce]
- Scooby is seeing the up-to-date copy
- 21:48:58 [ruaok]
- both 64.50.238.52 and 64.50.236.52 give me the same results.
- 21:49:23 [djce]
- Can you try for me: GET 'http://ftp.musicbrainz.org/pub/musicbrainz/data/replication/?C=N;O=D' | less
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- 21:49:47 [catmo]
- hey ru and dj, sorry to inerput you, but is mb supposed to give 503 errors now? in which case I'll leave i alone
- 21:49:59 [djce]
- catmo: what url?
- 21:50:02 [ruaok]
- 503?
- 21:50:17 [ruaok]
- the load is running high atm, but that should not give errors.
- 21:50:31 [catmo]
- naw, might be me messign the new editmod url up trying to iterate back to slive server
- 21:50:51 [catmo]
- trying to reember the live server urlf for http://test.musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=3890166
- 21:51:02 [catmo]
- user error
- 21:51:04 [catmo]
- :)
- 21:51:31 [tru]
- damn. give me tips on how to get your coding-ambition back.
- 21:51:34 [luks]
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- 21:51:48 [ruaok]
- tru: post vacation lack of coding ambition?
- 21:51:55 [ruaok]
- deadlines work for me. and that is about it.
- 21:52:08 [ruaok]
- tru: try working on something that you WANT to work on.
- 21:52:10 [nikki_]
- i get 503 errors on quite a few mod searches
- 21:52:13 [ruaok]
- just getting going helps sometimes.
- 21:52:25 [nikki_]
- but I haven't done much searching lately.
- 21:52:36 [tru]
- ruaok: actually, post-stress lack of coding ambition and pre-vacation lack of coding ambition :)
- 21:52:49 [ruaok]
- djce: we sitll have that one index problem on the DB still right? where it should be using an index, but it isnt?
- 21:53:02 [ruaok]
- tru: another vacation?
- 21:53:10 [ruaok]
- I'd say ride it out. :-)
- 21:53:16 [djce]
- ruaok: no idea, sorry.
- 21:53:33 [ruaok]
- you and fuchs had a discussion about this in mb-devel not too long ago.
- 21:53:36 [micr0c0sm]
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- 21:53:42 [djce]
- too long ago for me.
- 21:53:47 [tru]
- ruaok: back to sweden was work and work.
- 21:54:40 [ruaok]
- djce: mb_devel Feb 13th.
- 21:54:48 [tru]
- ruaok: our company is supposed to be merged with a silicon valley company. (http://www.netintact.com/ht-php/dynamic.php3?menynr=5211&_IN=0) which is great, but it was a lot of work :)
- 21:55:02 [ruaok]
- I bet.
- 21:56:55 [catmo]
- natta folkens
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- 21:57:01 [ruaok]
- natta catmo
- 21:57:08 [catmo]
- wagadurium kleptodurus
- 21:57:22 [Shepard]
- nachtigal
- 21:57:24 [catmo]
- * catmo is lame :p
- 21:57:27 [ruaok]
- lol
- 21:57:27 [Muz]
- Nattaius Maximuz Moium
- 21:57:31 [Muz]
- *Maximus
- 21:57:49 [Shepard]
- haha freud
- 21:57:58 [Muz]
- I'll freud you!
- 21:58:02 [Muz]
- Just gimme a sex
- 21:58:02 [Muz]
- *sec
- 21:58:06 [catmo]
- freud was a fraud!
- 21:58:07 [inhouseuk]
- sleepus wellius mo
- 21:58:10 [keschte]
- :-)
- 21:58:14 [catmo]
- dankerium
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- 21:59:34 [Shepard]
- * Shepard thinks there are some screws loose in this channel
- 21:59:45 [inhouseuk]
- only some?
- 21:59:54 [nikki_]
- just some? I think somebody forgot the screws entirely.
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- * ruaok is held together with zip ties
- 22:00:42 [Shepard]
- * Shepard sighs and gives up
- 22:01:44 [inhouseuk]
- nikki that was an impressive result on joans election
- 22:02:08 [nikki_]
- inhouseuk: yup!
- 22:02:14 [ruaok]
- damn near everyone voted.
- 22:03:34 [Kerensky97]
- Did she make it?
- 22:03:39 [nikki_]
- yes
- 22:03:41 [nikki_]
- by far
- 22:04:05 [Kerensky97]
- nice
- 22:04:07 [ruaok]
- 33:6
- 22:04:12 [Muz]
- Shep, you heard/seen the new Falconer album?
- 22:04:29 [mudcrow]
- I'm glad to see so many yes votes for her
- 22:04:29 [Shepard]
- what, it's out yet???
- 22:04:38 [nikki_]
- me too, mudcrow
- 22:04:39 [Kerensky97]
- Wow, I didn't know there were that many automods.
- 22:04:49 [nikki_]
- yeah, been breeding like bunnies!
- 22:05:11 [Muz]
- No idea
- 22:05:17 [ruaok]
- nikki_: have you seen this? http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060523/sc_nm/china_language_dc_1
- 22:05:18 [Muz]
- But this channel/my connection is shitty
- 22:05:20 [Kerensky97]
- * Kerensky97 turns the hose on the bunnies
- 22:05:23 [Muz]
- So messages are all over the place
- 22:05:25 [Kerensky97]
- You're scaring the kids
- 22:05:37 [nikki_]
- gah
- 22:05:39 [nikki_]
- mb won't load
- 22:05:49 [Shepard]
- muz: hm nothing new on their site
- 22:05:52 [Muz]
- "Mummy, why is there another bunny coming out of that one's bum?"
- 22:06:02 [Muz]
- "Sword from the north"
- 22:06:04 [Muz]
- *Swords
- 22:06:21 [nikki_]
- ruaok: hmm, I didn't know the stats for chinese--fewer than japanese! :o
- 22:06:32 [ruaok]
- nikki_: things should be better now.
- 22:06:37 [ruaok]
- I was hammering the DB a minute ago.
- 22:06:44 [nikki_]
- the official japanese figure is 1945 I think
- 22:07:07 [nikki_]
- and I'm at about 200 :/
- 22:07:10 [yllona]
- ru: XCode 2.3 released
- 22:07:26 [ruaok]
- I experimentally created the index that fuchs suggested. lets see if this actually makes a difference in the amnount of 502/3 we see.
- 22:07:33 [ruaok]
- yllona: thanks.
- 22:07:37 [ruaok]
- I don't use Xcode much.
- 22:07:44 [ruaok]
- * ruaok is a gcc kinda guy
- 22:07:47 [Kerensky97]
- "many characters are archaic and some found only once in the whole history of the written language"
- 22:07:49 [Kerensky97]
- crazy
- 22:07:58 [yllona]
- I lkie it. but i'm not a professional developer.
- 22:08:32 [ruaok]
- I do need to download the dev kit though. might as well do that now.
- 22:08:39 [nikki_]
- Kerensky97: sounds about right
- 22:09:05 [nikki_]
- ruaok: you only just got your vote for joan in in time ;)
- 22:09:34 [yllona]
- ru: it links to GCC. manages all the trivial stuff, consolidates docs. like i said... works nicely when i need to (rarely) fire up a compiler. esp for multi-language stuff
- 22:10:11 [yllona]
- includes MySql now too.
- 22:11:00 [nikki_]
- 42 people voted :o
- 22:11:26 [yllona]
- ru: XCode download link not available (yet). I'll check ADC
- 22:11:43 [ruaok]
- nikki_: I saw. :-)
- 22:11:51 [ruaok]
- ADC has it. :-)
- 22:12:12 [nikki_]
- that must be some record.
- 22:12:16 [yllona]
- yep. just found it
- 22:12:22 [djce]
- test.mb.org sees the up-to-date ftp mirror
- 22:13:04 [ruaok]
- wtf?
- 22:14:59 [djce]
- oh, hold on.
- 22:15:06 [djce]
- I'm being a total retard. Ignore me.
- 22:15:24 [djce]
- osuosl is way out of date.
- 22:15:49 [ruaok]
- * ruaok wonders what djce was looking at
- 22:15:56 [djce]
- scooby :/
- 22:16:03 [ruaok]
- lol
- 22:16:04 [djce]
- * djce slaps head
- 22:17:43 [BrianG]
- rut row raggy
- 22:18:12 [ruaok]
- djce: btw, zim is now in my office. I picked him up over the weekend.
- 22:18:22 [ruaok]
- I was seriously worried of what I would find inside.
- 22:18:27 [nikki_]
- any bugs?
- 22:18:31 [ruaok]
- last time there was dust and frozen fans.
- 22:18:36 [djce]
- rare species?
- 22:18:41 [ruaok]
- this time. not a spec of dust. fans working great.
- 22:18:50 [ruaok]
- 100% normal and healthy looking.
- 22:18:53 [ruaok]
- * ruaok was floored
- 22:19:02 [Shepard]
- the dust puppy :D
- 22:19:14 [ruaok]
- now I need to extort two drives from mrneil and slap a new OS on zim.
- 22:19:18 [ruaok]
- is dapper drake out?
- 22:19:21 [nikki_]
- dust *bunny*
- 22:19:57 [ruaok]
- I think Shepard means dust puppy...
- 22:20:21 [nikki_]
- puppies aren't dusty though, they're just plain mucky!
- 22:20:50 [Shepard]
- http://www.userfriendly.org/cartoons/dustpuppy/ see!
- 22:21:14 [ruaok]
- thats the one!
- 22:22:10 [Muz]
- Did someone say puppy? :D
- 22:23:11 [nikki_]
- boo.
- 22:23:12 [nikki_]
- * nikki_ likes bunnies
- 22:23:12 [nikki_]
- * nikki_ goes to draw
- 22:23:13 [yllona]
- ru: sorry for bringing up an unpleasant issue, but are you saying that an official comunication from a band/artist management/company/label will not be honored ? http://blog.musicbrainz.org/archives/2006/05/artists_labels.html
- 22:23:29 [yllona]
- ru: i'm speaking about a fax/certified letter? that the artist management/label rep must become an MB user, and solicit votes?
- 22:23:44 [inhouseuk]
- * inhouseuk plays: Rabbit from The Ultimate Cheese Party (disc 1) by Chas 'n' Dave
- 22:24:46 [ruaok]
- yllona, sure that can be used to authenticate a band/artist.
- 22:24:56 [ruaok]
- but, then what?
- 22:26:20 [yllona]
- well here's a scenario: so much data in B is incorrect, and the documantation is still a bit sketchy, i can see a position for removing MB data -- just based upon quality/accuracy.
- 22:26:31 [yllona]
- *so much data in MB
- 22:26:56 [nikki_]
- if they're that bothered, why not just fix it, since they would obviously know enough about it
- 22:27:14 [ruaok]
- and the community will be there to watch what they do. that's how its been working.
- 22:27:41 [yllona]
- nikki: see my note about documentation, and voting policy.
- 22:27:42 [inhouseuk]
- and nothing is ever completely removed, if you dig enough, you can find the data in the old mod history
- 22:29:02 [yllona]
- if i were a label rep, and were alarmed by data integrity, it's easier to remove and add the data correctly, rather than "fix" it. new adds are much easier than edits
- 22:29:19 [djce]
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- 22:29:45 [Shepard]
- I disagree there
- 22:30:00 [yllona]
- first and foremost, I'd make the request to remove teh incorrect data
- 22:30:24 [ruaok]
- and then I will say: sorry, but no.
- 22:30:31 [yllona]
- or at least "freeze" it in some way, so that no more incorrect mods could occur.
- 22:30:33 [ruaok]
- I may post to the blog asking people to fix some stuff.
- 22:30:41 [toxickore]
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- 22:30:54 [ruaok]
- otherwise from now on its: "create an acccount, read the docs and fix it yourself"
- 22:31:13 [yllona]
- ru: thanks for the clarification. you're gonna have lots of legal fun then.
- 22:31:28 [Shepard]
- I think if they ask kindly they will find an experienced moderator helping them
- 22:32:06 [keschte]
- yllona: i like it, its the balance of the voting/editing system that will tip to their favour if they are reasonable
- 22:32:39 [ruaok]
- yllona: on what basis?
- 22:32:45 [ruaok]
- we're indexing facts.
- 22:32:54 [yllona]
- except for the fact that many mods are not reasonable themselves ;)
- 22:32:58 [ruaok]
- you can't sue us for facts being missing or incorrect.
- 22:33:23 [keschte]
- and it will prevent us from taking steps like removing releases, when in fact they did communicate contradictory facts
- 22:33:32 [yllona]
- i wasn't implying an actual "suit" i was implying cease and desist
- 22:33:34 [inhouseuk]
- and the only place that subjective data can be stored is in the annotations, those are easy to fix
- 22:33:43 [ruaok]
- the community will buffer out idiots. its has before and will do so again. regardless if they are plain vanilla idiots or label idiots
- 22:33:57 [keschte]
- good thing is, the world does not work like the US
- 22:34:00 [ruaok]
- yllona: I'm not worried about C&D. at all.
- 22:34:08 [ruaok]
- Remember, we have lawyers on our side.
- 22:34:18 [ruaok]
- three of them to be exact.
- 22:34:21 [yllona]
- i disagree. and that's the point, that labels are idiots
- 22:34:53 [yllona]
- MB is not easy to understand from a non-technical perspective. it just isn't.
- 22:35:16 [ruaok]
- once we roll out wikidocs things will get much better.
- 22:35:28 [keschte]
- * keschte wonders where this comes from, possibly a lack of documentation? :)
- 22:35:42 [yllona]
- this is my long-standing discussion about the business of music.
- 22:35:56 [Shepard]
- don seems to understand it quite well :)
- 22:36:05 [yllona]
- keschte: yes.
- 22:36:36 [keschte]
- i've been stumped quite a few times what i assumed people knew which they didnt
- 22:36:59 [keschte]
- ruaok: WikiDocs is only the concept, which is great
- 22:37:33 [keschte]
- but from what i've seen since i've started porting the static pages. there's still not much presentable content around
- 22:37:41 [yllona]
- if i were label rep, and discovered incorrect data about my artists in MB. i'd see no traditional way to correct that data.
- 22:37:52 [keschte]
- e.g. things that will be presented in an official context need massive amounts of work, even if the wiki pages exist
- 22:38:01 [yllona]
- traditional in teh way that a label would request a correction and/or retraction
- 22:38:13 [keschte]
- ...and DR called me back, of course
- 22:38:15 [gecks]
- how does wikipedia etc deal with stuff like this?
- 22:38:25 [keschte]
- because i've started to create hiearchical docs, which he didnt like
- 22:39:18 [Shepard]
- I think they were sued here for listing a fact about some person
- 22:39:23 [yllona]
- and teh assumption is that a label or artist rep even knows what a wiki is, or how to read/use it. that's a *huge* assumption
- 22:39:25 [keschte]
- yllona: i think we need to take a stance where we don't edit content to anyones requests
- 22:39:47 [Shepard]
- they even had to shutdown the domain wikipedia.de because of this (which is quite stupid of course)
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- 22:40:09 [keschte]
- its not _that_ hard to understand. and i've added lots of interlinking to relevant docs on the edit pages, you'll see.
- 22:40:25 [yllona]
- then you also need to create a "traditional" set of documentation that explains MB and it's policies. because that doesn't exist now.
- 22:40:30 [ruaok]
- keschte: as DR said, its going to take some time to finish off WikiDocs. and until then our docs suck.
- 22:40:36 [ruaok]
- * ruaok is ok with that.
- 22:40:42 [keschte]
- Shepard: problem is that the legislative does not know how to deal with internet cases because there are no precedents they can rely on
- 22:40:46 [ruaok]
- I'm excited by what wolfsong, et al are doing.
- 22:41:15 [keschte]
- hmm.. check the RecentChanges
- 22:41:29 [yllona]
- but you forgetting that the MB message is being lost in the choice of "media", i.e. wiki.
- 22:41:36 [keschte]
- since we had our conf call, nobody has done squat. so i started
- 22:41:55 [yllona]
- believe it or not wikis are *not* that pervasive outside the tech industry
- 22:42:29 [keschte]
- wiki is only a means of data editing, this could have been any website
- 22:42:53 [ruaok]
- yllona: wikidocs is not about using wikis.
- 22:43:03 [ruaok]
- the end user will be removed from having to look at a wiki.
- 22:43:17 [keschte]
- which strenghtens the point: they are clueless, and are driving into populistic decisions which they have to revert afterwards because its not a sensible thing to do to turn off wikipedia, for instance
- 22:43:25 [yllona]
- ru: i was using wikidocs as an example of online, interlinked documentation
- 22:44:14 [yllona]
- keschte: they are *not* clueless. and that perspective will be the ultimate undoing of MB. and i'm being quite serious
- 22:44:32 [ruaok]
- I think the music industry will undo itself before it undoes MB.
- 22:44:37 [keschte]
- rofl
- 22:44:43 [yllona]
- ru: i disagree
- 22:44:45 [keschte]
- i was thinking the same
- 22:44:50 [ruaok]
- we care about our users.
- 22:45:01 [ruaok]
- the music industry sues theirs.
- 22:45:04 [ruaok]
- who has more future?
- 22:45:42 [inhouseuk]
- and MB doesn't infected peoples computers with rootkits and other nasties
- 22:45:51 [ruaok]
- * ruaok snickers
- 22:46:11 [yllona]
- ru: the large labels sue. and you're missing my point. allow me to clarify: how hard would it be to create a simple set of docs describing MB? in a traditional format?
- 22:46:17 [nikki_]
- the idea behind wikidocs, I thought, was to make official documentation easier for people to edit by making it come from a wiki, instead of having to update files in svn every time something changes.
- 22:46:48 [gecks]
- wasn't the lable who got arsey about flagrant not a major, though?
- 22:47:07 [keschte]
- nikki_: that documents are _actually_ changed, because obviously (=style.html) it hasnt at all
- 22:47:24 [ruaok]
- yllona: what are traditional docs?
- 22:47:41 [yllona]
- gecks: to my knowledge there was no suit involved with flagrant. please correct me if I'm wrong
- 22:47:50 [keschte]
- yllona: http://musicbrainz.org/papers/mb_nonprofit.pdf
- 22:47:52 [ruaok]
- no suit, no C&D.
- 22:48:06 [keschte]
- this is 7 pages of mb goodness
- 22:48:08 [ruaok]
- just a dumbass misrepresenting flagrant.
- 22:48:13 [gecks]
- to be honest i caught the end of the whole thing so aren't really sure what the problemwas :)
- 22:48:36 [yllona]
- ru: in the simplest sense a brochure, describing MB services/policy in plain simple language
- 22:49:13 [ruaok]
- a paper brochure that people can pick up here in SLO?
- 22:49:26 [Shepard]
- lol
- 22:49:27 [ruaok]
- how do you make that online?
- 22:49:36 [ruaok]
- whats the online equivalent of that?
- 22:49:42 [gecks]
- at discogs we've got this guy who reckons because he as copyright of teh artist name 'User', he can delete all other artists called 'User' (of which there are 10s)
- 22:49:46 [yllona]
- keschte: that's a start, but it needs to easily available from the MB start page.
- 22:49:55 [keschte]
- yllona: read the paper ruaok wrote, a pdf is as traditional as we can do it.
- 22:50:08 [yllona]
- ru: no, it can be online, PDF is fine
- 22:50:42 [ruaok]
- I somehow doubt that all the stupidity of labels can be fixed in one PDF when a bunch of web pages won't do that job.
- 22:50:46 [keschte]
- yllona: and btw, i think the few paragraphs on the mb homepage are a good intro to what mb is about
- 22:50:53 [yllona]
- MB needs an artist/label page, where all the info is linked in. if it already exists, point me to it.
- 22:51:04 [ruaok]
- yllona: didn't you as some point try to start writing this intro?
- 22:51:16 [keschte]
- and if someone does not grok that, he won't if we throw 100reds of pages at them
- 22:51:24 [yllona]
- ru: i can do it. i just got a lot of negative feedback
- 22:51:34 [ruaok]
- since you have a better grasph on what constitutes acceptable language, I'd love it if you could work on it.
- 22:51:41 [yllona]
- along the lines of "labels suck.e tc". see above
- 22:51:58 [ruaok]
- well, that intro is not just for the labels.
- 22:52:09 [ruaok]
- remove the word labels from when you ask for feedback. simple.
- 22:52:17 [mudcrow]
- major labels do suck
- 22:52:32 [ruaok]
- * ruaok hopes microlabels will put the majors out of business
- 22:52:40 [yllona]
- ru: i agree, it's just taht i work with labels, and let me tell you these people are not stupid, and don't ever forget it.
- 22:53:21 [keschte]
- isn't it as simple as that: we judge them from what we see from an endusers perspective (which we are)
- 22:53:25 [ruaok]
- ok, so your labels are the exception that proves the rule.
- 22:53:25 [gecks]
- major labels are just succesful labels, of course :)
- 22:53:35 [ruaok]
- glad to hear that there are some labels that don't suck.
- 22:53:39 [yllona]
- there's a big difference between the media pundits, and teh people doing the work, and that includes artists
- 22:54:07 [nikki_]
- I saw a label guy adding stuff for a band they have
- 22:54:39 [yllona]
- ru: many small (not indies) have conscientious employees and execs, trying to navigate the quagmire jsut like MB.
- 22:55:24 [yllona]
- however, the reamining choke point still seems to be distribution (as it's aleays been)
- 22:56:00 [yllona]
- *always been, back to the days of sheet msuic publishing in the 18th century
- 22:57:54 [yllona]
- so all i'm saying, is make MB easy to understand for a traditional industry, with long standing practices, i'm not saying that their modus operandi is efficient. but neither is MB (yet). :)
- 22:58:35 [yllona]
- you have to help them understand why MB is important (and useful).
- 22:58:39 [ruaok]
- yllona: not arguing with you on any of those points.
- 22:58:50 [ruaok]
- but, first I want to see wikidocs come to fruition.
- 22:59:02 [ruaok]
- once it does we can see how to fix and improve it.
- 23:00:26 [inhouseuk]
- MB can actually be good (free) advertising for the smaller labels with limited distribution. They can add their artists and provide links to where people can purchase the music
- 23:00:35 [yllona]
- okay point me to the latest, and i'll take stab at a simple "what is MB?" doc, as a PDF
- 23:01:01 [nikki_]
- YAY! HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ME!
- 23:01:06 [yllona]
- gawd knows i've done it enough times over the phone.... ;)
- 23:01:23 [inhouseuk]
- happy birthday nikki
- 23:01:37 [yllona]
- happy b'day nikki
- 23:01:51 [mudcrow]
- happy birthday Nikki :)
- 23:02:04 [Shepard]
- * Shepard already said and goes to bed :P
- 23:02:06 [Shepard]
- night
- 23:02:07 [nikki_]
- * nikki_ dances
- 23:02:12 [mudcrow]
- night shep
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- 23:02:39 [nikki_]
- * nikki_ tries to work out how to get into her present from shep
- 23:03:01 [nikki_]
- he's parcel taped all the gaps
- 23:03:53 [ruaok]
- happy birthday, madam nikki_ !
- 23:04:03 [ruaok]
- did he send hanutas?
- 23:04:04 [nikki_]
- madam? :o
- 23:04:08 [nikki_]
- I don't know
- 23:04:14 [nikki_]
- I haven't got into it yet
- 23:04:32 [yllona]
- inhouseuk: yes to your point about distribution. but that's not easily grok'd from the available documentation
- 23:05:00 [ruaok]
- yllona: point you to the latest? I'd try http://musicbrainz.org :-)
- 23:05:24 [Kerensky97]
- Happy birthday nikki. Shouldn't you go to bed now? ;)
- 23:05:48 [Muz]
- Happy day nikki
- 23:06:14 [nikki_]
- Kerensky97: oh no!
- 23:06:45 [yllona]
- ru: does that include that include teh latest on SRG5 or the schema?
- 23:07:02 [Kerensky97]
- That's right, college students don't have the luxury to differentiate between night and day.
- 23:07:04 [nikki_]
- I'm in!
- 23:07:25 [Muz]
- Kerensky97, I think that's computer users in general
- 23:07:36 [Kerensky97]
- :D
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- 23:08:15 [yllona]
- * yllona will be back in 15
- 23:09:51 [ruaok]
- * ruaok laughs at the vista screen shots
- 23:10:10 [ruaok]
- same stupid interface made over to look more like a mac.
- 23:10:20 [Muz]
- It's not even that
- 23:10:22 [Muz]
- It's worse
- 23:10:38 [Muz]
- And WMP11 is all the crapness of WMP10 wrapped up in a crappy "mac like" bui
- 23:10:39 [Muz]
- *gui
- 23:11:09 [ruaok]
- with any luck M$ will unravel with vista.
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- 23:14:49 [nikki_]
- AWWWwwwww
- 23:16:32 [Joan_W]
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- 23:16:35 [Joan_W]
- Happy Birthday Nikki
- 23:16:36 [nikki_]
- hi joan!!
- 23:16:41 [Joan_W]
- hi nikki
- 23:16:51 [nikki_]
- happy automodding if you decide to!
- 23:16:52 [inhouseuk]
- congratulations Joan
- 23:17:01 [keschte]
- nite...
- 23:17:01 [Joan_W]
- thank you inhouse and nikki
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- 23:17:21 [nikki_]
- awwwwwwww! shep sent me a really sweet present!
- 23:17:29 [Joan_W]
- what did he send?
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- 23:18:13 [nikki_]
- a cute little squirrel! (among other things)
- 23:18:22 [Joan_W]
- a fluffy one?
- 23:18:27 [nikki_]
- yeah!
- 23:18:31 [nikki_]
- with an acorn!
- 23:18:31 [Joan_W]
- great
- 23:18:41 [Joan_W]
- at least it won't get hungry!
- 23:18:54 [nikki_]
- my mouth hurts from grinning
- 23:19:08 [Joan_W]
- hey - it never hurts to be happy
- 23:19:14 [nikki_]
- this time it does ;)
- 23:19:32 [mudcrow]
- congratulations Joan
- 23:19:51 [Joan_W]
- thank you very much mudcrow
- 23:20:25 [Joan_W]
- I have just entered my first mod but have turned automod privileges off as I said I would - anyway it's a promo single, so I thought it should be voted on
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- 23:20:56 [Joan_W]
- everybody is quitting - is it me?
- 23:21:19 [inhouseuk]
- joan, did you see the result of the election? 33 yes, 6 no
- 23:21:22 [nikki_]
- you had 33 people voting yes, you should have more confidence in your editing!
- 23:21:27 [nikki_]
- and 2 abstains
- 23:21:31 [nikki_]
- er
- 23:21:32 [nikki_]
- 3
- 23:21:43 [Joan_W]
- yes - I did, but deliberately did not stay by the computer until a little later
- 23:22:09 [mudcrow]
- thats the most yes votes I've seen
- 23:22:25 [Joan_W]
- I probably will over time nikki, but the kerfuffle on mb automods mailing list has slightly knocked the confidence out of me
- 23:22:30 [nikki_]
- that's the most votes I've ever seen, mudcrow
- 23:22:44 [Joan_W]
- mudcrow - I seriously think that might have been a backlash against the campaign waged
- 23:23:18 [Joan_W]
- but, don't look a gift horse in the mouth - I have benefitted by it
- 23:26:00 [Joan_W]
- Anyway, the real reason I came on here tonight was to say thank you very much to all my friends on MB who voted for me. I really do appreciate it
- 23:26:24 [nikki_]
- you're welcome!
- 23:28:40 [Muz]
- * Muz didn't vote for you!
- 23:28:44 [Muz]
- * Muz isn't an automod ;)
- 23:29:53 [Joan_W]
- you're still my friend I hope muz
- 23:29:59 [Muz]
- But of course :)
- 23:30:06 [Joan_W]
- that's all that matters then
- 23:30:10 [Muz]
- I feel insulted that you should question that!
- 23:30:13 [Muz]
- * Muz is joking
- 23:30:17 [Muz]
- (about that lattermost line)
- 23:30:30 [Joan_W]
- I knew that
- 23:30:35 [Muz]
- :)
- 23:34:11 [Kerensky97]
- I'm out of here, have a good evening everybody.
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- I did it again!
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- night all
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