IRC log of musicbrainz on 2012-01-03
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- 00:04:13 [ruaok]
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- 00:04:17 [nikki]
- what did it do?
- 00:10:13 [ZaphodBeeblebrox]
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- 00:21:55 [Vorpal]
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- 00:28:30 [ZaphodBeeblebrox]
- heh http://ffffound.com/image/3cc14e1b1d9388c0fb96c275ae9875ced93fc83c
- 00:35:43 [ddaydj]
- do i have to use scripts to remove feat. from artist tags now with picard?
- 00:37:28 [CallerNo6]
- ddaydj: what version of picard? It's built into 0.16
- 00:37:52 [ddaydj]
- i'm on .16
- 00:38:09 [ddaydj]
- but i have some stuff that is artist a feat. artist b
- 00:38:10 [CallerNo6]
- Options>Options>Plugins>Feat. Artists
- 00:38:25 [ddaydj]
- that ones does it if its title (feat. artist)
- 00:38:29 [ddaydj]
- *one
- 00:38:44 [CallerNo6]
- oh, oops. i got that backwards
- 00:39:24 [ddaydj]
- looks like plugin + script does it
- 00:39:36 [nikki]
- http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/MusicBrainz_Picard/Plugins fourth one on there
- 00:39:44 [CallerNo6]
- yeah, exactly, sorry about that
- 00:40:02 [ddaydj]
- yeah, used that with script to get it out of the title, lol
- 00:40:52 [ddaydj]
- thanks
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- 00:49:38 [murdos]
- nikki: could you change user privileges of http://musicbrainz.org/user/murdos_bot to bot? thanks
- 00:51:03 [nikki]
- done
- 00:54:11 [BrianFreud_TO]
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- 00:58:38 [v6lur]
- nikki: it was fast and extremely handy (as usual), that's all :)
- 00:58:45 [v6lur]
- (reviewing & approving some 4000 edits in an afternoon+evening = not a problem)
- 00:59:06 [nikki]
- ah :)
- 01:08:19 [bitmap]
- o_O http://forums.musicbrainz.org/viewtopic.php?id=3332 any ideas?
- 01:08:35 [bitmap]
- the annotation is for "Lola" too
- 01:12:07 [CallerNo6]
- how on earth could that have got past HumHumXX?
- 01:12:19 [bitmap]
- I remember seeing cerdd83's annotation/disambiguation edits for that in my subscriptions, and there are only PUID submissions after that in the history…
- 01:12:47 [bitmap]
- I'm subscribed to the Kinks but not Middle of the Road
- 01:13:56 [bitmap]
- and http://musicbrainz.org/edit/14533793 says the recording is removed
- 01:14:09 [bitmap]
- wtf
- 01:17:09 [nikki]
- * nikki bets it was http://beta.musicbrainz.org/edit/15901706
- 01:17:41 [bitmap]
- ugh, that would probably do it
- 01:18:18 [nikki]
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- 01:18:23 [nikki]
- stupid colloquy
- 01:18:48 [bitmap]
- it's going to be a nightmare trying to fix now :/
- 01:18:53 [nikki]
- http://classic.musicbrainz.org/release/2e15df9c-0a25-43c3-a3d1-79c108d235c2.html and http://classic.musicbrainz.org/release/9985a460-8b42-4f52-91a3-82f3ccac3795.html
- 01:19:14 [nikki]
- track 7 of both matches the merged recordings
- 01:19:27 [bitmap]
- wow, nice find
- 01:19:58 [nikki]
- well I assumed it was a release merge, since that's the only other way to merge recordings
- 01:20:06 [nikki]
- and I assumed it was a v.a. merge because nobody saw it in time
- 01:20:18 [nikki]
- so I just checked the edit history of the v.a. releases listed
- 01:20:37 [nikki]
- and then took the mbid and checked on classic :)
- 01:20:46 [bitmap]
- clearly I was too stupid to think of that :)
- 01:21:24 [nikki]
- nah
- 01:21:38 [bitmap]
- shouldn't something be done to make VA merges more visible? :/
- 01:21:52 [nikki]
- probably
- 01:22:21 [nikki]
- it should probably have big warnings too if you try and merge things where the artists don't match
- 01:22:40 [bitmap]
- * bitmap agrees
- 01:23:40 [nikki]
- hmm. I guess merge releases should show up in the edits for all the artists linked
- 01:23:51 [nikki]
- because it's a lot like n * merge recordings
- 01:25:05 [bitmap]
- I was thinking that they already did, so that's what I'd expect too
- 01:26:10 [bitmap]
- and this is also a good example of where some kind of MBID editing system would come in handy…
- 01:27:31 [bitmap]
- to fix the redirect and assign the original MBID back to Chirpy Chirpy Cheep Cheep
- 01:50:36 [nikki]
- ...
- 01:50:56 [nikki]
- I just came across someone who, instead of editing releases, decided to add new ones and merge the old ones into them
- 01:51:14 [nikki]
- (just to change "pseudo-release" to "official", it seems)
- 02:10:37 [nikki]
- bitmap: http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-4104
- 02:11:38 [bitmap]
- nikki: thanks! I was going to check if there was a ticket
- 02:14:19 [bitmap]
- and I've never seen so many deadlocks in my life
- 02:14:51 [nikki]
- yay!
- 02:14:57 [nikki]
- * nikki is happy to not be the only person getting deadlocks
- 02:15:04 [nikki]
- vote on http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-3597 >D
- 02:15:13 [bitmap]
- haha
- 02:15:31 [nikki]
- and for a warning http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-4105
- 02:16:17 [bitmap]
- * bitmap gives out votes everywhere
- 02:16:33 [nikki]
- :D
- 02:32:37 [bitmap]
- yuck, I don't even think it's worth trying to fix the 50-something PUIDs
- 02:37:34 [Leftmost]
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- 02:54:33 [nikki]
- delete them all >:D
- 03:17:13 [bitmap]
- * bitmap is crazy and thinks that's a good idea, but resists the thought :P
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- 03:36:02 [nikki]
- aww
- 04:01:40 [derwin]
- hrm, in the release editor, if you select a missing entity radio butten, you can't un-select it
- 04:12:40 [derwin]
- I think this release I am adding
- 04:12:46 [derwin]
- is going to add like.. 10 artists.. to musicbrainz
- 04:17:45 [derwin]
- actually... 20.
- 04:17:49 [derwin]
- epic
- 04:19:08 [derwin]
- http://musicbrainz.org/release/e311ae93-2d8d-400f-be26-acc103f1b2b9
- 04:20:23 [derwin]
- lol and it was the wrong release
- 04:20:24 [derwin]
- I was looking for
- 04:20:27 [derwin]
- http://www.discogs.com/Various-300-Makina-2008/release/1846592
- 04:20:28 [derwin]
- sigh
- 04:20:37 [derwin]
- which should be.. fun
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- 05:28:00 [derwin]
- http://musicbrainz.org/release/0afdfa2a-eeab-4b7c-802f-6c812cd6ae1d
- 05:28:02 [derwin]
- moooo
- 05:34:17 [derwin]
- sigh
- 05:34:18 [derwin]
- http://musicbrainz.org/release/0afdfa2a-eeab-4b7c-802f-6c812cd6ae1d/open_edits
- 05:37:38 [CallerNo6]
- derwin, http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/arnt-you-clever-single/id432603807
- 05:41:07 [derwin]
- <sigh>
- 05:41:32 [derwin]
- amazon.fr had it as "aren't"
- 05:41:40 [derwin]
- only reference I could find, grr
- 05:42:41 [derwin]
- * derwin goes and de-corrects it on discogs
- 05:43:44 [derwin]
- I'm hoping "Natural Litgher" was actually a typo.
- 05:44:21 [reosarevok]
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- 05:45:51 [CallerNo6]
- * CallerNo6 , in other words, is the guy who says, "nice essay but you should have put a comma on page 58, line 30."
- 05:46:58 [derwin]
- god, that was pretty hilarious
- 05:47:08 [derwin]
- arn't
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- 05:55:30 [CallerNo6]
- I also found "Natural Ligther"
- 05:56:02 [JoeLlama]
- moo
- 05:56:28 [CallerNo6]
- @ http://djperlos.blogspot.com/2009_07_01_archive.html
- 05:57:41 [CallerNo6]
- ah. Got it.
- 06:01:33 [derwin]
- fwiw, the track I want : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcL5GhG_3r4
- 06:03:12 [brianfreud2]
- New one: http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/122077
- 06:03:13 [CallerNo6]
- now /that's/ music to edit to.
- 06:04:08 [derwin]
- makina is probably the style of hardcore closest to j-core
- 06:04:25 [derwin]
- which is weird, what do spain and japan have in common?
- 06:06:11 [reosarevok]
- lol
- 06:06:31 [reosarevok]
- People really know this stuff outside of Spain?
- 06:06:48 [derwin]
- reosarevok: it depends on what you mean by "people" ... I am into weird subgenres of hardcore...
- 06:06:58 [derwin]
- but as proved by searching hypem.com, no one else is
- 06:07:09 [derwin]
- like, even mainstream breakcore acts like bong-ra get almost no coverage
- 06:07:10 [reosarevok]
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_lLPZKfkc8 has something of a tongue-in-cheek cult status in Spain
- 06:07:13 [derwin]
- and dude has 10 years of records out
- 06:07:46 [reosarevok]
- (although he sold millions of singles in the 90s so I don't know if it qualifies for cult status)
- 06:07:49 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok goes catch a bus
- 06:08:11 [derwin]
- valencia is a lovely city to visit..
- 06:14:05 [derwin]
- huh!
- 06:14:06 [derwin]
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/J-Core
- 06:16:42 [derwin]
- I've actually heard that asi me gusta a mi, pretty damn sture.
- 06:16:44 [derwin]
- sure.
- 06:16:48 [derwin]
- love it. "ecstasy"
- 06:20:25 [CallerNo6]
- * CallerNo6 goes off to find some j-core on youtube, even though it's apparently a "Neologism with no reliable sources"
- 06:37:40 [ZaphodBeeblebrox]
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- 06:42:46 [derwin]
- CallerNo6: there's also lolicore, which is mostly made by gaijin...
- 06:53:18 [ruaok]
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- 07:13:00 [derwin]
- hrm... http://www.discogs.com/Various-X/release/1820632
- 07:13:06 [derwin]
- doesn't give me an "import to mb" button :/
- 07:15:38 [derwin]
- http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?release=631282
- 07:16:03 [derwin]
- hrm... if the label says "E.P" ?
- 07:16:20 [derwin]
- err, if the label says "E.P", do I leave it like that in the release name?
- 07:18:21 [derwin]
- " Do not remove EP
- 07:18:22 [derwin]
- If the word "EP" or "E.P." is part of a release title, it should be retained. "
- 07:18:57 [derwin]
- I guess "E.P" it is.
- 07:19:48 [reosarevok]
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- 07:24:33 [derwin]
- * HARTMANS CRAP -> HARTMANS CLAP
- 07:24:34 [derwin]
- loool
- 07:33:44 [reosarevok]
- Heh
- 07:33:57 [reosarevok]
- Spanish Interior Ministry spends 1.5 million euros in tear gas
- 07:34:17 [ruaok]
- d00d
- 07:34:19 [reosarevok]
- No spending cuts for that
- 07:34:31 [reosarevok]
- Scared much?
- 07:35:51 [ruaok]
- reosarevok: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:Nikki/Server_names#Not_in_use_yet
- 07:35:59 [ruaok]
- can you please add the source for lolo?
- 07:36:02 [derwin]
- " We are an internet based mp3 and Cd Extratone only label. We specialise in Extratone and Extratone. Our interests include Romantic walks along the beach listening to Extratone, watching the latest Extratone TV shows and making Extratone. "
- 07:39:07 [reosarevok]
- ruaok: done
- 07:39:11 [ruaok]
- thx
- 07:39:22 [reosarevok]
- (apparently called "Scamper" in the English version - fuck that, it was Lolo in the original :P )
- 07:40:59 [reosarevok]
- the American version was heavily localised and cuts out most of the violent scenes from the original, including the death of Scamper's father (which is not even mentioned in this version).
- 07:41:03 [reosarevok]
- lol US
- 07:41:39 [ruaok]
- http://www.flickr.com/photos/mayhem/6626461389
- 07:42:54 [reosarevok]
- :)
- 07:43:02 [SultS_]
- awesome names ;)
- 07:43:05 [reosarevok]
- What will it do?
- 07:43:27 [ruaok]
- lolo will be a web server to increase overall capacity.
- 07:43:53 [ruaok]
- rika will be a machine admined by ianmcorvidae that will allow users to setup MB sandboxes
- 07:44:28 [reosarevok]
- heh
- 07:44:41 [reosarevok]
- derwin: just checked what extratone was
- 07:44:54 [reosarevok]
- First youtube comment I see: "So,you turn on a chainsaw an dance?"
- 07:46:02 [reosarevok]
- Another "This is the perfect song to show people you no longer wish to be friends with."
- 07:46:29 [derwin]
- reosarevok: hehe, there's moextratone
- 07:46:46 [derwin]
- which is lolicore extatone, lol
- 07:47:01 [derwin]
- extratone : for when speedcore isn't fast enough
- 07:48:34 [reosarevok]
- Erm
- 07:48:46 [reosarevok]
- How exactly does PRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR convey loli?
- 07:49:04 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok 's head hurts
- 07:51:20 [derwin]
- http://www.discogs.com/release/2730821
- 07:51:35 [derwin]
- it's for faster-than-lolicore lolicore
- 07:52:38 [reosarevok]
- Artist: Lolishit
- 07:52:38 [reosarevok]
- Title: Lolicon Swimsuit Dream
- 07:52:38 [reosarevok]
- Album: Chest Flattener
- 07:52:40 [reosarevok]
- srsly?
- 07:52:52 [reosarevok]
- People are weeeeeeeird
- 07:53:09 [derwin]
- chest flattener is among the best lolicore names
- 07:53:15 [derwin]
- I like "Nasty Maid Grinder"
- 07:53:26 [derwin]
- and on that note, zzz :)
- 07:53:29 [reosarevok]
- "aww man I'm in the weird part of youtube again"
- 07:54:27 [flamingspinach]
- what happened to the tracklist editor automatically filling in colons in track lengths?
- 07:54:41 [reosarevok]
- Some overzealous dev thought it was a bug :p
- 07:54:47 [flamingspinach]
- wat :(
- 07:54:50 [reosarevok]
- It's being re-added in the next release
- 07:54:51 [flamingspinach]
- now I can't use the numpad
- 07:54:57 [flamingspinach]
- oh, nice :)
- 07:55:15 [flamingspinach]
- is it possible to use directional keys in the editor too, rather than tabbing five times to get to the next track length field?
- 07:55:20 [reosarevok]
- No idea
- 07:55:23 [flamingspinach]
- I mean, it's currently not
- 07:55:27 [reosarevok]
- Oh
- 07:55:34 [reosarevok]
- Add a ticket and see what people say?
- 07:55:38 [flamingspinach]
- Sounds good
- 07:56:16 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok asked for tabbing to skip the guess case and remove track buttons
- 07:56:29 [reosarevok]
- But I was told it's important for... meh, I forgot the word
- 07:56:39 [reosarevok]
- Well, for people who can't use a mouse or something
- 08:00:18 [reosarevok]
- Accesibility?
- 08:00:23 [reosarevok]
- Maybe
- 08:01:53 [CallerNo6]
- you're playing Stump the Translator single-player?
- 08:03:55 [flamingspinach]
- reosarevok: yeah accessibility - every clickable thing on the page should have a tab stop
- 08:04:03 [flamingspinach]
- that's why I want arrow keys lol
- 08:04:44 [reosarevok]
- CallerNo6: no, but I am playing Import the Naxos single-player, wanna join? :p
- 08:05:42 [ZaphodBeeblebrox]
- HEEE http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/016/256implp.asp?nopager=1
- 08:05:57 [ZaphodBeeblebrox]
- basically sums up WHY i'll never join facebook
- 08:14:51 [luks]
- v6lur: wow, did you really vote on all lukz_bot edits yesterday?
- 08:22:09 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok wonders how the hell that discID got there v
- 08:22:11 [reosarevok]
- MEH
- 08:22:12 [reosarevok]
- http://musicbrainz.org/release/c171996b-e53b-4dc9-958e-71be5972b447
- 08:22:35 [reosarevok]
- (2 track release, 11 track disc ID)
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- 08:44:19 [reosarevok]
- Someone find me http://musicbrainz.org/release/7a84a07d-bd21-4c63-b52a-e33beacb2772 :p
- 08:45:36 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok can't find any work which is Allegro - Andante - Allegro vivace in Rodrigo's catalogue
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- 09:22:13 [jesus2099]
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- 09:23:14 [jesus2099]
- if anyone is interested (besides me ha ha) I’ve added a check / uncheck all checkbox(es) in subscriptiones pages http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/122083
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- 09:36:24 [jesus2099]
- derwin: thanks for musopen link !
- 09:39:32 [jesus2099]
- v6lur: are you there ? yesteday you said murdos could you show medium title or else it breaks jesus’s mass merge script ← can’t you still merge by release URL instead of medium URL ?
- 09:42:17 [jesus2099]
- nikki: thanks for your RFC comment ! You’re my first one, yay :)
- 09:42:26 [jesus2099]
- I’ll update the stuff you say
- 09:43:43 [jesus2099]
- I have another quesiotn too… It seems that I can see this character only because I happen to have a (rare?) font called junicode ( http://junicode.sourceforge.net ) Can someone test with me in the IRC ?
- 09:45:31 [reosarevok]
- Argh, the existing tracklist option only uses indexed? D:
- 09:45:48 [jesus2099]
- Someone not having any very special font but still seeing more than just ascii or ansi (someone who can see the following characters at least “tiếng Việt, đẹp quá, 漢字テストです。) ← is there someone seeing this but doesn't have junicode ?
- 09:46:11 [reosarevok]
- I see all until the second comma
- 09:46:15 [reosarevok]
- Then 4 I can't see
- 09:46:20 [reosarevok]
- Then I see the last 4
- 09:46:30 [reosarevok]
- (win 7 and didn't install extra fonts)
- 09:54:36 [jesus2099]
- hey that's fine reosarevok thanks, can you tell me if you see those and which one you don’t see between the asterisks *** *** (there are 3 chars)
- 09:54:54 [jesus2099]
- do you see a square box (replacement character)
- 09:55:05 [reosarevok]
- Nope
- 09:55:08 [reosarevok]
- I see nothing at all
- 09:55:10 [reosarevok]
- Just space
- 09:55:48 [jesus2099]
- only spaces, do you see the first one smaller than 2nd and 3rd : 1st *** *** 2nd *** *** 3rd *** ***
- 09:56:43 [reosarevok]
- Smaller
- 09:56:49 [jesus2099]
- 1st is nnbsp, 2nd is nbsp, 3rd is sp
- 09:56:56 [jesus2099]
- cool thanks very mich :)
- 09:58:38 [aylex]
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- 09:59:05 [jesus2099]
- if nikki can test with her mac or someone else with linux or something else than win7 now, I would be grateful :) → Do you see : nnbsp “ ”, nbsp “ ” ?
- 10:02:41 [pankkake]
- I don't, but I use fixed-size fonts
- 10:03:03 [pankkake]
- hm, with a normal font yes it's smaller
- 10:03:59 [pankkake]
- nnbsp is smaller than nbsp, however, for the previous line, I don't see a difference between the 2nd and the 3rd
- 10:04:26 [pankkake]
- oh, that's normal
- 10:05:36 [pankkake]
- not enough coffee
- 10:11:50 [jesus2099]
- thanks pankkake, what’s your os/brwoser ?
- 10:11:51 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
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- 10:12:27 [pankkake]
- linux / firefox 8
- 10:12:28 [jesus2099]
- widths : nnbsp (narrow) < nbsp = sp
- 10:12:37 [jesus2099]
- and no funny font added ? ;)
- 10:12:53 [pankkake]
- well, it was droid sans
- 10:13:22 [jesus2099]
- I don’t know but I suppose it’s ok, thanks :)
- 10:33:57 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
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- 10:34:47 [jesus2099]
- murdos: yes, vandal ! :p http://musicbrainz.org/edit/16064154
- 10:36:23 [v6lur]
- luks: yes
- 10:37:54 [v6lur]
- jesus2099: i think not, at least i don't see any links that seem relevant on release pages
- 10:39:04 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- Hi
- 10:39:26 [jesus2099]
- v6lur: juzst use the http://musicbrainz.org/release/eaa6fe6f-bb5b-4c57-ba94-181d6c9c7c73 kind of URL if you don’t have Mediulm/tracklist URL
- 10:42:00 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- Can someone tell me how to add composer, lyricist, etc information?
- 10:43:19 [v6lur]
- jesus2099: oh, i see it now...
- 10:44:18 [reosarevok]
- MarcelvanLeeuwen: composer and lyricist is the trickiest part right now
- 10:44:27 [reosarevok]
- They are added via works
- 10:44:34 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- oh
- 10:44:36 [reosarevok]
- For which we don't really have any decent interface
- 10:44:40 [reosarevok]
- (yet9
- 10:44:42 [reosarevok]
- *)
- 10:45:00 [reosarevok]
- What kind of music are you editing?
- 10:45:16 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- Anouk a dutch artist
- 10:45:33 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- http://musicbrainz.org/release/02ccf107-a676-4b5d-9b93-b206d4553c12
- 10:45:36 [reosarevok]
- So, contemporary
- 10:45:44 [reosarevok]
- Hmm
- 10:45:56 [reosarevok]
- I don't think there's a good way for those :(
- 10:46:00 [reosarevok]
- I see that release has a work
- 10:46:02 [reosarevok]
- Did you add it?
- 10:46:08 [reosarevok]
- Or was it there already?
- 10:46:14 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- it was there
- 10:46:30 [reosarevok]
- Ok
- 10:46:31 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- changed some things
- 10:46:33 [reosarevok]
- Basically
- 10:46:42 [reosarevok]
- http://musicbrainz.org/work/adcf24f7-ab2b-382b-b149-921d6a66cc35 is the work
- 10:46:50 [reosarevok]
- Which has a performance, http://musicbrainz.org/recording/d7989bca-490c-4f6c-ac8a-3d0ec8df1bb8
- 10:47:00 [reosarevok]
- Which is in a release, http://musicbrainz.org/release/02ccf107-a676-4b5d-9b93-b206d4553c12
- 10:47:22 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- pfff
- 10:47:27 [reosarevok]
- http://musicbrainz.org/artist/5e8da504-c75b-4bf5-9dfc-119057c1a9c0/works is the list of works for Anouk we have
- 10:47:44 [reosarevok]
- If the ones you want are there, you only have to relate them to the right recordings
- 10:47:52 [reosarevok]
- (but yeah, our interface for that sucks right now)
- 10:48:09 [reosarevok]
- (been worked at... with a lot of other things so it goes kinda slow :( )
- 10:48:19 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- ok
- 10:48:25 [jesus2099]
- sucks = not good
- 10:48:26 [reosarevok]
- If you want one that is not there, you need to add it
- 10:48:30 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- lol
- 10:49:27 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok uses lots of userscripts for all this but they're mostly useful for classical stuff
- 10:50:11 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- so this only can be done via the web interface
- 10:50:28 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- or you uses these scripts
- 10:50:45 [reosarevok]
- Editing in general, yes (editing via webservice is also being worked at, but again, lots of stuff to do, few coders)
- 10:50:48 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- trying to understand the workflow
- 10:50:54 [reosarevok]
- http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/121723 might be useful for what you want
- 10:50:57 [reosarevok]
- And...
- 10:50:59 [reosarevok]
- Oh, wait
- 10:51:17 [reosarevok]
- nikki, bitmap: is the "Add work from recording" script not in userscripts?
- 10:51:20 [jesus2099]
- reosarevok: if the script was on release page rather than works page, it could be used for all records, isn’t it ?
- 10:51:53 [reosarevok]
- jesus2099: possibly - it's kovacsur's script and I don't know how it works exactly
- 10:52:05 [reosarevok]
- I guess it would need more changes than that, but the concept would be similar, yes
- 10:52:45 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- the user scripts are used in combination with picard
- 10:52:48 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- ?
- 10:52:50 [reosarevok]
- No, with the site
- 10:52:53 [jesus2099]
- someone knows how to fetch *entire* collection from /ws/2/ ?
- 10:53:06 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- okay
- 10:53:23 [reosarevok]
- Picard has its own plugins, http://musicbrainz.org/doc/MusicBrainz%20Picard/Plugins
- 10:53:28 [jesus2099]
- http://musicbrainz.org/ws/2/collection/f0574792-6af6-481e-8b2f-d5ea9fc59c4d/releases only 25 first and I tried the offset without ok
- 10:53:40 [reosarevok]
- But of those, Add Cluster As A Release is the only one that seeds the DB I think
- 10:54:09 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok hasn't used it, other people are very happy with it - but it will still not add relationships, just seed the release editor for you for adding releases
- 10:54:11 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- but what is the best way via web or picard?
- 10:54:30 [reosarevok]
- Actual final input needs to be done in the web
- 10:54:32 [jesus2099]
- add a release should be via picard or isrcsubmit.exe from CD
- 10:54:39 [reosarevok]
- The point is that if you seed from Picard
- 10:54:48 [jesus2099]
- they will open the web with CD’s DiscID
- 10:54:58 [reosarevok]
- You need to type less (just fix whatever looks wrong, add what's missing, and press next a few times)
- 10:55:00 [jesus2099]
- then everything next is done in website
- 10:55:12 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- ah okay
- 10:55:16 [reosarevok]
- Or yeah, if you add from CD, use the CD lookup option
- 10:55:34 [reosarevok]
- (cluster as a release is for digital files)
- 10:56:06 [jesus2099]
- exactly ↗
- 10:56:09 [jesus2099]
- :)
- 10:56:34 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- i want to add compact disc's i own
- 10:57:05 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- and rip them later if the metadata of musicbrainz is okay
- 10:57:16 [v6lur]
- reosarevok: http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/104148 ?
- 10:57:51 [reosarevok]
- v6lur: I mean the one that is used from the sidebar of the recording page
- 10:57:52 [v6lur]
- (doesn't work in opera)
- 10:57:55 [reosarevok]
- (a single recording)
- 10:57:55 [jesus2099]
- MarcelvanLeeuwen: then you can use either Picard lookup or isrcsubmit.exe to add the DiscID to a new release or the existing release (that you’ll later fix)
- 10:58:19 [v6lur]
- hm, i don't remember seeing such
- 10:58:20 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- okay
- 10:58:36 [reosarevok]
- v6lur: yeah, it makes sense, seeing it's not in userscripts :)
- 11:01:40 [jesus2099]
- oh man, those not-in-userscripts are such a pity
- 11:02:38 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- how is this used?
- 11:02:53 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- owh script i mean
- 11:02:57 [reosarevok]
- That's why I asked bitmap / nikki why that is (although I guess it is because it's basically only useful for autoeditors at the moment)
- 11:03:15 [reosarevok]
- (as it doesn't have any options - you add it as a normal performance without options to check boxes)
- 11:03:23 [reosarevok]
- MarcelvanLeeuwen, what browser you use?
- 11:03:36 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- chrome, firefox
- 11:04:13 [reosarevok]
- In Chrome, just install them
- 11:04:24 [reosarevok]
- (with the Install button)
- 11:04:30 [reosarevok]
- And say yes when Chrome asks you if you're sure
- 11:04:43 [reosarevok]
- http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/119544 can also be useful, I guess, especially now that it suggests works
- 11:05:06 [jesus2099]
- reosarevok: why only auto ? It would work for the hoi polloi too IMO
- 11:05:07 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok hasn't tried it for non-classical music but the suggest feature seems like it would help a lot there
- 11:05:35 [reosarevok]
- jesus2099: it would, if you added the option to select "part./live/inst./cover"
- 11:05:37 [jesus2099]
- reosarevok: ah ok :)
- 11:05:54 [jesus2099]
- so, no need ;)
- 11:05:55 [reosarevok]
- Right now, with that script there's no way to do that
- 11:06:11 [reosarevok]
- So you'd need to add it "wrong" and then fix it and it'd take weeks :p
- 11:07:15 [reosarevok]
- But I guess adding that and uploading it would make perfect sense, maybe bitmap will feel like it later? ;)
- 11:09:21 [jesus2099]
- sure ! ;)
- 11:11:15 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- installed the script
- 11:11:28 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- but how to activate
- 11:12:03 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- i can see it's installed under settings extentions
- 11:12:12 [reosarevok]
- Should be enabled by default
- 11:12:20 [reosarevok]
- http://musicbrainz.org/artist/5e8da504-c75b-4bf5-9dfc-119057c1a9c0/recordings
- 11:12:21 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- yes it's enabled
- 11:12:41 [reosarevok]
- http://musicbrainz.org/artist/5e8da504-c75b-4bf5-9dfc-119057c1a9c0/works
- 11:13:03 [reosarevok]
- But as I said, both of those work on lists of recordings / works at the moment, rather than in releases
- 11:13:23 [reosarevok]
- Still useful, especially if you know all, say, "Alright" are the same song
- 11:13:58 [reosarevok]
- (you can add a work and relate it to all of them at the same time, which means it will no longer need to be done for other releases of hers)
- 11:14:15 [reosarevok]
- (on a complete off topic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4g9RMSqGLKU beautiful)
- 11:17:01 [jesus2099]
- sorry, can’t see vids
- 11:18:44 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- ah the script is working together with the musicbrainz website
- 11:18:47 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- lol
- 11:19:46 [jesus2099]
- MarcelvanLeeuwen: enter the userjs frenzy
- 11:20:07 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- huh
- 11:20:38 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- what do you mean
- 11:20:40 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- ?
- 11:21:20 [jesus2099]
- unleash its POWARS
- 11:21:45 [reosarevok]
- He means the web interface is not too good, so some of us power-users have from 10 to 40 userscripts for it :p
- 11:22:00 [reosarevok]
- To add extra options and stuff
- 11:22:10 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- haha okay i understand it now
- 11:22:32 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- sorry but English is not my native language
- 11:22:59 [jesus2099]
- MarcelvanLeeuwen: same here :D
- 11:23:04 [reosarevok]
- And here
- 11:23:10 [reosarevok]
- Which might explain it all :)
- 11:23:19 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- :)
- 11:23:43 [jesus2099]
- english is more fun with mistaks
- 11:24:29 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- :)
- 11:25:39 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- So this can't be done with release... so i have to find if this tracks already exists in the database
- 11:25:55 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- and add the information
- 11:26:09 [reosarevok]
- Well
- 11:26:16 [reosarevok]
- If the release is there, the track exists
- 11:26:25 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- track = recording
- 11:26:27 [reosarevok]
- And if not, you will add it, so it will exist
- 11:26:38 [reosarevok]
- track = (almost) recording
- 11:26:53 [reosarevok]
- A recording is a specific recording/mastering/whatever of a song
- 11:27:18 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- ahhh.. okay
- 11:27:19 [reosarevok]
- So, for example, the recording in the single and the album and some compilation can be the same
- 11:27:24 [reosarevok]
- (but it would still be three tracks)
- 11:27:44 [reosarevok]
- But every track is associated with one recording
- 11:27:56 [reosarevok]
- So if there's a track, there's a recording :)
- 11:28:53 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- welcome in the world of.., recordings.., tracks.., etc
- 11:28:57 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- :)
- 11:29:03 [jesus2099]
- gambatte
- 11:29:09 [v6lur]
- hm, some other scripts breaks http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/119544
- 11:29:18 [v6lur]
- * v6lur goes investigate
- 11:29:18 [reosarevok]
- :/
- 11:29:26 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- huh
- 11:29:40 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- wha't's happening
- 11:30:29 [reosarevok]
- If you mean v6lur's comment, nothing that affects you, most likely
- 11:30:43 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- okay
- 11:30:45 [reosarevok]
- (he has like 30 scripts so sometimes they conflict)
- 11:31:36 [MarcelvanLeeuwen]
- but I'll understand thanks for the explanation so far it's appreciated
- 11:32:21 [reosarevok]
- v6lur: http://www.lasering.ee/index.php?make=item_show&toote_id=664
- 11:32:38 [reosarevok]
- "Tuksam (AC)" ja s�brad (join phrase)?
- 11:36:55 [v6lur]
- or maybe "Jaak Tuksam as Tuksam" ja "Various Artists as sõbrad" ?
- 11:37:17 [v6lur]
- but i'd agree with join phrase "ja sõbrad", too
- 11:37:52 [v6lur]
- anyway, http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/81127 is the one that breaks 119544 :(
- 11:37:57 [reosarevok]
- I am not sure how useful linking to VA there is
- 11:38:19 [reosarevok]
- jesus2099, one of your scripts conflicts! Can you look at it? :)
- 11:38:21 [v6lur]
- me neither. just a thought
- 11:38:52 [reosarevok]
- I mean, linking to VA as the only track artist is frowned upon... but as an AC? No idea :/
- 11:39:02 [reosarevok]
- Other people who are around, opinions?
- 11:39:53 [flamingspinach]
- I did that once
- 11:40:32 [v6lur]
- (the title means "Tuksam and friends", if that helps anyone)
- 11:41:05 [flamingspinach]
- but I was advised to change it
- 11:41:32 [flamingspinach]
- http://musicbrainz.org/edit/15585540
- 11:42:23 [reosarevok]
- As I said, yeah, it's not liked as *only* track artist
- 11:42:51 [reosarevok]
- I'm just not sure for this case, where it would be "Jaak Tuksam as Tuksam" ja "Various Artists as s�brad"
- 11:43:46 [flamingspinach]
- oh, right. Then I'm not sure...
- 11:44:04 [reosarevok]
- Well, I'll enter it as a join phrase for now
- 11:44:19 [reosarevok]
- If someone thinks it should be changed to VA, say so and I can always change it :)
- 11:44:23 [flamingspinach]
- I would tend to think it's acceptable to say Various artists as sõbrad
- 11:45:13 [flamingspinach]
- here's a question: a track on a release I'm trying to add is marked as "[INTERMISSION] Track Title"
- 11:45:39 [flamingspinach]
- should I just get rid of the [INTERMISSION]? I was thinking of "Intermission: Track Title" but that's kind of classical style guide -ish
- 11:45:56 [flamingspinach]
- and it's not like Track Title is a subordinate part of a larger whole called Intermission
- 11:46:07 [reosarevok]
- Is the whole track the intermission, or is the track following the intermission?
- 11:46:15 [flamingspinach]
- the whole track is the intermission
- 11:46:43 [flamingspinach]
- According to CSG it should be Intermission "Track Title" but that's ridiculous on a non-classical release lol
- 11:47:54 [reosarevok]
- I don't think that's ridiculous, I have sometimes used Skit "Title" or Skit: Title
- 11:47:55 [kovacsur]
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- 11:48:06 [reosarevok]
- Title (intermission) is other option
- 11:48:29 [flamingspinach]
- Hmm
- 11:48:37 [flamingspinach]
- I think Title (intermission) looks the best in this case
- 11:58:16 [MJ]
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- 11:59:48 [reosarevok]
- "Guitar concerto. 2nd movement / Rodrigo"
- 11:59:58 [reosarevok]
- THANKS Deutsche Grammophon, very useful
- 12:00:06 [reosarevok]
- Because he only has 6
- 12:11:36 [jesus2099]
- jesus2099 has joined #musicbrainz
- 12:12:03 [jesus2099]
- reosarevok: can yo ubriefly explain in my userjs discussions tab with the link to the conflicting userjs (I probably don’t use it yet)
- 12:12:27 [reosarevok]
- v6lur, ^^^
- 12:14:36 [v6lur]
- a moment...
- 12:21:42 [ijabz]
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- 12:22:47 [v6lur]
- done
- 12:32:52 [reosarevok]
- Heh
- 12:32:59 [reosarevok]
- WP removing pages for Dylan songs
- 12:33:04 [reosarevok]
- If that's not notable I wonder what is
- 12:33:36 [kovacsur]
- whatever topic has lots of fans in wikipedia is notable, everyone knows that
- 12:35:13 [kovacsur]
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pok%C3%A9mon_species
- 12:37:01 [reosarevok]
- There it goes, redirects for today and yesterday fixed
- 12:37:09 [reosarevok]
- With around half of them being just removals
- 12:37:12 [reosarevok]
- Meh
- 12:37:29 [reosarevok]
- kovacsur, I'd argue pokemon species are notable :p
- 12:37:37 [reosarevok]
- (but yeah, that the other stuff isn't is laughable)
- 12:38:06 [juhae]
- http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/Wikigroaning
- 12:39:58 [murdos]
- nikki: here is an improved version of http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/118691 : http://pastie.org/3118123
- 12:40:56 [murdos]
- it fixes issue with works, add support for preferred order and remove links and references from summary
- 12:41:30 [kovacsur]
- reosarevok: wow, I didn't know that Chimo Bayo song had a video.
- 12:43:34 [CatCat]
- hrm
- 12:46:29 [CatCat]
- soooooo
- 12:46:39 [CatCat]
- http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:Nikki/Server_names#Not_in_use_yet naames
- 12:51:06 [CatCat]
- can we call one like, Perry? from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phineas_and_Ferb ?
- 12:54:31 [v6lur]
- heh, the backup disks :D
- 12:55:41 [CatCat]
- somebody name something from metalocalypse!
- 12:55:42 [CatCat]
- XD
- 12:55:53 [CatCat]
- oe ed edd & eddy
- 12:55:55 [CatCat]
- or*
- 13:00:02 [ocharles]
- haha, ed, edd & eddy would make good backup drives :P
- 13:04:19 [CatCat]
- :D
- 13:04:38 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok fully supports that for when we change those
- 13:04:46 [CatCat]
- \o/
- 13:33:26 [jesus2099]
- jesus2099 has joined #musicbrainz
- 13:33:52 [jesus2099]
- how stuff is submitted to http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:Nikki/Server_names
- 13:44:04 [Manny]
- Manny has joined #musicbrainz
- 13:44:05 [Manny]
- hello
- 13:44:45 [reosarevok]
- jesus2099: normally, you give ideas when they ask here
- 13:45:01 [reosarevok]
- I guess you could leave a note on the talk page with a suggestion if you have one? :p
- 13:45:06 [reosarevok]
- dunno
- 13:45:09 [reosarevok]
- Manny, hi :)
- 13:45:12 [Manny]
- yesterday, I tried to submit a two-disc release and somehow messed it up:
- 13:45:15 [Manny]
- http://musicbrainz.org/artist/8ab3f78a-9198-4de9-a9ec-979919b5fd6c
- 13:45:36 [Manny]
- two releases were created, one that only contains the first disc/medium, and one that contains both
- 13:45:50 [Manny]
- the one containing only the first medium has the TOC of the first medium attached
- 13:46:09 [Manny]
- the one containing both media has the TOC ID of the second medium attached to the second medium
- 13:46:12 [Manny]
- TOC = TOC ID
- 13:46:40 [Manny]
- I wonder what the correct way of dealing with this is
- 13:46:47 [reosarevok]
- Merging them
- 13:47:04 [Manny]
- ok, I probably proposed to many edits:
- 13:47:04 [reosarevok]
- http://musicbrainz.org/edit/16061056 is half of it
- 13:47:05 [Manny]
- http://musicbrainz.org/artist/8ab3f78a-9198-4de9-a9ec-979919b5fd6c/edits
- 13:47:49 [reosarevok]
- http://musicbrainz.org/doc/How_to_Merge_Releases has some more info
- 13:48:20 [reosarevok]
- But basically, in this case, open both releases, press Merge, select Merge mediums and recordings, and select the 2xCD one as the one you want to merge into
- 13:49:43 [Manny]
- reosarevok: maybe I should cancel some of my edits. It looks quite messy.
- 13:49:52 [reosarevok]
- For these two releases, merging works
- 13:50:04 [reosarevok]
- Of course, I could move the TOC for CD 1 to the right place
- 13:50:08 [reosarevok]
- And you could cancel the 1CD one
- 13:50:10 [reosarevok]
- That works too
- 13:50:17 [reosarevok]
- Hmm, sounds simpler
- 13:50:20 [reosarevok]
- Let's do that
- 13:50:38 [reosarevok]
- Oooh
- 13:50:42 [reosarevok]
- You're doing it already?
- 13:50:51 [Manny]
- yeah, I just did it before joining here
- 13:50:52 [reosarevok]
- Cool
- 13:50:57 [reosarevok]
- Approved that
- 13:51:00 [Manny]
- ok
- 13:51:17 [reosarevok]
- Now, cancel http://musicbrainz.org/edit/16060806
- 13:51:21 [Manny]
- ah great, now it shows up
- 13:51:30 [reosarevok]
- (the add for the 1xCD)
- 13:52:47 [Manny]
- done
- 13:53:03 [reosarevok]
- Good
- 13:53:15 [Manny]
- ok it looks great now :)
- 13:53:24 [Manny]
- I'll check my other edits and cancel most of them / all of them
- 13:53:24 [reosarevok]
- Now, people, let's get some votes in http://musicbrainz.org/edit/16061056
- 13:53:31 [reosarevok]
- (that's still needed)
- 13:54:42 [reosarevok]
- Also, let's split the artist
- 13:54:46 [reosarevok]
- How is it in the cover?
- 13:54:56 [reosarevok]
- I can't find one that is big enough to see
- 13:55:25 [reosarevok]
- Oh, found it :)
- 13:56:17 [reosarevok]
- A few votes on http://musicbrainz.org/edit/16074598 to finish this? :)
- 13:58:41 [kovacsur]
- shouldn't the "Im freien Meer" bit be part of the title, by the way?
- 13:59:52 [kovacsur]
- the Amazon page lists MusikFreiZeit as an artist, no idea if that's right
- 14:00:16 [reosarevok]
- http://www.ralfschmid.de/docs/disc.html lists it as the title
- 14:00:58 [kovacsur]
- http://www.talesintonestrio.de/docs/info.html lists it as a project comprising of TTT and the two others
- 14:01:43 [reosarevok]
- Why can't everyone agree? :(
- 14:01:47 [kovacsur]
- :(
- 14:03:02 [reosarevok]
- Hmm, yeah, it seems that's it
- 14:03:11 [reosarevok]
- http://www.google.ee/search?rlz=1C1LENN_enEE462EE462&aq=f&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=MusikFreiZeit#sclient=psy-ab&hl=et&rlz=1C1LENN_enEE462EE462&source=hp&q=MusikFreiZeit+meer&pbx=1&oq=MusikFreiZeit+meer&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=1741l2313l1l2418l4l4l0l0l0l0l450l1076l2-1.1.1l3l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.,cf.osb&fp=7e1ce33c0a466812&biw=1366&bih=607 seems to give a lot of hits that call it artist
- 14:03:34 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok cancels the split and will rename then
- 14:04:59 [reosarevok]
- MusikFreiZeit (tales in tones trio, J. Enders, J. Kraus) // IM FREIEN MEER //
- 14:05:00 [reosarevok]
- Yeah
- 14:05:05 [reosarevok]
- That's the shop linked from the label site
- 14:06:46 [reosarevok]
- http://musicbrainz.org/edit/16074725 then
- 14:08:42 [reosarevok]
- And collaborators linked
- 14:08:45 [reosarevok]
- That should be it :)
- 14:09:12 [the_metalgamer]
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- 14:10:40 [Manny]
- I agree with kovacsur
- 14:10:47 [Manny]
- reosarevok: ah ok
- 14:10:53 [Manny]
- sorry, I am very unexperienced
- 14:10:57 [kovacsur]
- Manny: you sure picked a tricky release for your first edit. :)
- 14:11:23 [Manny]
- I still have some open edits
- 14:11:25 [Manny]
- http://musicbrainz.org/user/GeistDesKriegers/edits/open
- 14:12:19 [Manny]
- should I ignore them?
- 14:12:26 [Manny]
- the release looks OK
- 14:12:34 [reosarevok]
- Yeah
- 14:12:40 [reosarevok]
- Those are needed
- 14:12:41 [reosarevok]
- :)
- 14:12:56 [Manny]
- btw. the "Recordings" tab http://musicbrainz.org/artist/8ab3f78a-9198-4de9-a9ec-979919b5fd6c/recordings does not contain the track lengths of the 2nd album
- 14:13:30 [reosarevok]
- Yeah
- 14:13:32 [reosarevok]
- Known issue
- 14:13:55 [reosarevok]
- Hopefully some automatic way for that kind of stuff to be sourced from tracks will be added soon
- 14:13:58 [reosarevok]
- soon-ish
- 14:13:58 [reosarevok]
- :)
- 14:14:04 [Manny]
- ok :)
- 14:15:13 [Manny]
- by the way, as I insert the 2nd medium and open sound-juicer under linux (which uses a [probably outdated] musicbrainz library), I see all the tracks from the first and from the 2nd medium
- 14:15:37 [reosarevok]
- Yeah
- 14:15:47 [reosarevok]
- The library is indeed outdated
- 14:16:14 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok seems to recall someone from soundjuicer being working on it
- 14:16:21 [reosarevok]
- But it might have been other ripper
- 14:16:30 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok gets confused by the amount of rippers available
- 14:17:33 [Mineo]
- well, we had a lot of reports about problems with rippers
- 14:17:56 [Mineo]
- some were using /ws/1 (which Mannys sound-juicer does), some were still using the rdf thing
- 14:18:42 [ZaphodBeeblebrox]
- man i need a better irc client than this coloquy (altough collo isn't that bad)
- 14:19:02 [reosarevok]
- Colloquy is pretty OK IMO
- 14:19:14 [reosarevok]
- Xchat is fine but dunno if there's an OSX version
- 14:19:37 [ZaphodBeeblebrox]
- there is, it's called xchat alpha
- 14:19:40 [ZaphodBeeblebrox]
- not as good tho
- 14:20:10 [ZaphodBeeblebrox]
- * ZaphodBeeblebrox is obsessing about nanobugs
- 14:20:24 [ZaphodBeeblebrox]
- they are cool
- 14:20:35 [nano-]
- \o/
- 14:20:40 [ZaphodBeeblebrox]
- tho i wish they weren't so expensive
- 14:20:46 [ZaphodBeeblebrox]
- o_O
- 14:20:58 [reosarevok]
- heh
- 14:21:01 [ZaphodBeeblebrox]
- naI mean http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260913959634&hlp=false
- 14:21:07 [ZaphodBeeblebrox]
- erh
- 14:21:07 [ocharles]
- ZaphodBeeblebrox: you might try irccloud.com
- 14:21:17 [reosarevok]
- That's almost as good as the day I started talking about muesli and there was an user called muesli :D
- 14:21:40 [Muz]
- * Muz used to work with muesli. :)
- 14:21:49 [ZaphodBeeblebrox]
- and collo aw man, i type na tab and start typing and it does naTYPING
- 14:22:41 [ZaphodBeeblebrox]
- müsli?
- 14:23:15 [kovacsur]
- Hm, I have some doubts about a release I added a couple of months ago: http://musicbrainz.org/release/3ead96e0-8eb6-438a-b327-d0a01fed470b
- 14:23:30 [ZaphodBeeblebrox]
- erh ocharles, do you have an invite? it's like invite only idk
- 14:23:40 [reosarevok]
- kovacsur: what is it?
- 14:23:41 [kovacsur]
- First off, it's a compilation of tracks from two albums, one of them having the same title as the compilation
- 14:23:49 [kovacsur]
- should it be moved to a release group of its own?
- 14:24:02 [ZaphodBeeblebrox]
- hmm...
- 14:24:20 [reosarevok]
- Hmm
- 14:24:30 [luks]
- ZaphodBeeblebrox: send me your email address
- 14:24:36 [ZaphodBeeblebrox]
- it reminds me of that judas preist album, that for whatever (legal? pfst) reasons got rereleased as-is as a compliation
- 14:24:43 [ZaphodBeeblebrox]
- luks: gk
- 14:24:47 [ZaphodBeeblebrox]
- erh k
- 14:24:57 [reosarevok]
- It picks only a few of the tracks from that album, right?
- 14:25:03 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok thinks it makes sense to move it, yes
- 14:26:09 [kovacsur]
- The other issue is the tracking error between tracks 1 & 2. Technically I could add new recordings and make partial performance/compilation ARs
- 14:26:29 [kovacsur]
- but would users gain any practical advantage?
- 14:38:32 [ocharles]
- ZaphodBeeblebrox: let me check
- 14:39:03 [ocharles]
- ZaphodBeeblebrox: yea, pm me an email address
- 14:39:37 [CatCat]
- ocharles: luks was kind enoughto already do it :) thank you still
- 14:40:02 [ocharles]
- ah, cool
- 14:50:32 [reosarevok]
- http://musicbrainz.org/edit/15939348 looks like it needs some more eyes and some discussion outside of the two people who're talking right now, in case someone wants to check
- 14:56:06 [murdos]
- and once you've voted on this edit, you can vote on http://musicbrainz.org/edit/16064154 that already circumvents the probable result of edit 15939348
- 14:57:56 [murdos]
- congrats wikimedia! $20 millions collected! http://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/01/02/wikimedia-fundraiser-concludes-with-record-breaking-donations/
- 14:58:42 [reosarevok]
- Yeah, now if they found a way of doing that without annoying half-a-screen banners it would be amazing :p
- 14:58:58 [reosarevok]
- (I admit it is impressive though)
- 14:59:49 [voiceinsideyou]
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- 15:00:33 [murdos]
- yeah, I admit their banners were too agressive
- 15:04:39 [reosarevok]
- I guess it *is* what works for them, but I'd love them to try and make them smaller and see if they get less donations because of it
- 15:05:19 [reosarevok]
- (I also don't think such an approach would work on MB now because a huge part of our use comes via ws and we can't put banners there)
- 15:05:20 [murdos]
- * murdos dreams of a day where MB had the same ambitions
- 15:06:29 [reosarevok]
- I do think some reminding about donations to MB makes sense though, maybe for example after blog posts for releases
- 15:06:34 [murdos]
- well, just a small reminder - from time to time - about existence of donations would help
- 15:06:35 [reosarevok]
- Especially the CAA one, for example
- 15:07:03 [reosarevok]
- (the actual release, once the Archive is ready)
- 15:07:07 [reosarevok]
- (not the code one)
- 15:07:24 [murdos]
- yes, I agree
- 15:09:03 [jesus2099]
- jesus2099 has joined #musicbrainz
- 15:09:31 [jesus2099]
- lolcat, what is tl dr territory ? :)
- 15:09:46 [reosarevok]
- jesus2099: too long / don't read
- 15:09:48 [kovacsur]
- tldr / "too long didn't read"
- 15:09:52 [reosarevok]
- Yeah, that
- 15:10:03 [jesus2099]
- wow, new one for me :)
- 15:10:16 [ocharles]
- murdos: it would seem the whole "begging for donations" thing does work :)
- 15:11:13 [jesus2099]
- I know who ZaphodBeeblebrox is
- 15:11:29 [reosarevok]
- ocharles: it does work for Wikipedia, which is a page based on actual views
- 15:11:36 [reosarevok]
- Would it work for MB, based mainly on ws?
- 15:11:45 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok isn't against trying though
- 15:11:46 [ocharles]
- reosarevok: I was being a bit sarcastic with that comment
- 15:12:07 [reosarevok]
- :p
- 15:12:09 [ocharles]
- (it does work, but wouldn't work as well for mb because we're just not as important as wikipedia)
- 15:12:22 [reosarevok]
- True, but we don't need $20 million either :p
- 15:12:43 [reosarevok]
- (they would be great, but we don't need them)
- 15:12:44 [ocharles]
- i wouldn't mind a raise...
- 15:12:44 [ocharles]
- :P
- 15:12:59 [reosarevok]
- ocharles, move to a cheaper country instead, instant raise :p
- 15:13:13 [jesus2099]
- reosarevok: ah sometimes “they” ask for server names here, in the IRC ?
- 15:13:17 [ocharles]
- i'm doing it wrong, planning to move to a more expensive country :P
- 15:13:25 [murdos]
- reosarevok: that's why MB should have a more appealing visual, and start being indexed by google
- 15:13:27 [reosarevok]
- Which one was that?
- 15:13:47 [jesus2099]
- reosarevok: the wiki page with server names :)
- 15:13:47 [reosarevok]
- murdos, agreed on both counts, the visual part is harder, the index one should start soon I hope
- 15:13:51 [reosarevok]
- What happened with it?
- 15:13:58 [murdos]
- it should be one aim of MB to attract more website visits
- 15:13:58 [reosarevok]
- jesus2099, that was at ocharles
- 15:14:04 [jesus2099]
- :D
- 15:14:11 [reosarevok]
- jesus2099: at you, "they" is ruaok, mostly, and yes
- 15:14:22 [reosarevok]
- He sometimes asks for names here
- 15:14:29 [jesus2099]
- three guys : ruoak, mostly and yes. ;)
- 15:14:33 [reosarevok]
- LOL
- 15:14:57 [reosarevok]
- Oh, but Yes are several guys!
- 15:15:04 [reosarevok]
- (also, they're boring)
- 15:15:07 [jesus2099]
- I like jiji and kiki but it probably sounds stupid out of context
- 15:15:39 [reosarevok]
- All our server names do ;)
- 15:15:39 [nikki]
- heh, jiji was one of the ones I was considering
- 15:15:54 [nikki]
- * nikki is working her way through the cats in studio ghibli anyway
- 15:16:13 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok is finishing http://musicbrainz.org/artist/fde4460b-868a-493e-8c53-221e418c8959/recordings?page=21
- 15:16:27 [reosarevok]
- That took a while, but complete catalogs are a godsend
- 15:16:47 [nikki]
- reosarevok: and no, it's not on userscripts because it's still too basic
- 15:17:20 [reosarevok]
- Yeah, as I said later, adding a "part./live/inst./cover" thing to it would be needed before it was useful for non-autoeditors
- 15:17:46 [jesus2099]
- * jesus2099 loves this kiki+jiji “couple”
- 15:17:53 [nikki]
- and not adding the work as soon as its clicked :P
- 15:18:32 [reosarevok]
- Why not?
- 15:18:32 [jesus2099]
- nikki: it’s nostalgic feeling, if you add them once, thanks :)
- 15:18:55 [nikki]
- reosarevok: the number of times I've almost misclicked that link is crazy :P
- 15:19:23 [reosarevok]
- And yet, *almost*
- 15:19:29 [reosarevok]
- I've misclicked it once
- 15:19:34 [reosarevok]
- Still not a big issue
- 15:19:47 [reosarevok]
- Even less for non-autoeditors, who can just cancel
- 15:20:40 [murdos]
- what userscript are you talking about?
- 15:21:57 [reosarevok]
- murdos: "Add work from this recording" in the sidebar in the individual recording page
- 15:22:06 [reosarevok]
- Something nikki and bitmap did a long time ago
- 15:22:26 [nikki]
- reosarevok: it still gives me fright every time :/
- 15:22:41 [nikki]
- +a
- 15:25:54 [murdos]
- nikki: have you seen my update of http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/118691 in backlog?
- 15:26:13 [nikki]
- yep, just looking now
- 15:26:21 [murdos]
- ok
- 15:27:29 [reosarevok]
- Yay, on to the last page! :D
- 15:28:05 [jesus2099]
- murdos: do you have the single version in preview (streaming etc.) somewhere so I can maybe ear check myself your merge ?
- 15:28:20 [jesus2099]
- I got my copy back (album version) and ripped it this time
- 15:28:29 [murdos]
- jesus2099: no
- 15:28:31 [jesus2099]
- resubmitted AcoustID / PUID
- 15:28:38 [jesus2099]
- ah ben bravo
- 15:28:55 [jesus2099]
- I only ask to be convinced
- 15:29:03 [jesus2099]
- I’m not
- 15:29:05 [jesus2099]
- yet
- 15:29:35 [jesus2099]
- hey, maybe 10 heures !
- 15:29:43 [jesus2099]
- (deezer) has it ?
- 15:30:00 [Mineo]
- I wonder if i'm the only one unable to connect to userscripts.org
- 15:30:02 [jesus2099]
- I’ll try that tonight
- 15:30:17 [jesus2099]
- Mineo: You’re the only one
- 15:30:18 [reosarevok]
- Mineo: I just could a moment ago
- 15:30:34 [jesus2099]
- (but it’s frequent slow down or crash because of auto updaters in some scripts)
- 15:31:11 [jesus2099]
- http://userscripts.org/tags/musicbrainz works atm for me
- 15:31:20 [Mineo]
- hmm, I haven't been able to reach it for ... a few weeks?
- 15:31:21 [jesus2099]
- (userscripts best page)
- 15:31:28 [jesus2099]
- not even right now ?
- 15:31:40 [Mineo]
- no :/
- 15:31:54 [jesus2099]
- it might be a proxy/firewall problem then.......
- 15:32:08 [jesus2099]
- or your ISP ← hey I nkow some acronyms !
- 15:32:37 [nikki]
- murdos: awesome, it works for works :D can I upload that version to userscripts?
- 15:32:48 [jesus2099]
- or maybe you had a userjs with autoupdate too frquent (involuntarily) and then userscripts blacklisted your IP ?
- 15:32:51 [jesus2099]
- Mineo: ↗
- 15:33:16 [jesus2099]
- nikki: yes please ;)
- 15:34:04 [Mineo]
- isp is unlikely, it didn't work at my parents' house and the university network
- 15:34:15 [murdos]
- nikki: of course you can
- 15:34:20 [jesus2099]
- nikki: doesn’t work for japanese works
- 15:34:45 [reosarevok]
- So no IP either. Mineo, maybe it just hates you
- 15:35:39 [jesus2099]
- nikki: correction, it does not work for all of them (i tested only works that had wikipedia pages of course)
- 15:36:50 [nikki]
- for example?
- 15:36:56 [reosarevok]
- jesus2099: it doesn't now, that's why it needs a correction
- 15:37:02 [reosarevok]
- (unless you mean murdos' correction)
- 15:37:03 [Mineo]
- and only 4 scripts with update checks, hmm
- 15:37:26 [reosarevok]
- アランフエス協奏曲〜第2楽章 - is gtranslate right in saying this is the Concierto de Aranjuez: II.?
- 15:37:33 [jesus2099]
- http://musicbrainz.org/work/4e7f3ea4-7bb3-3f62-aef4-002bfe9282f1 doesn’t work although we have (even without disambig. comment) http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/COSMOS_(宇宙)
- 15:37:48 [jesus2099]
- I didn’t even try funny stuff
- 15:37:59 [nikki]
- I don't see a wikipedia link on that page
- 15:38:07 [jesus2099]
- reosarevok: yes :)
- 15:38:16 [reosarevok]
- Cool :)
- 15:38:50 [jesus2099]
- reosarevok: it’s second somethgin←what’s the name for works ? it’s a chapter in a book for instance
- 15:39:00 [reosarevok]
- Movement
- 15:39:01 [jesus2099]
- second composition also
- 15:39:03 [jesus2099]
- ah
- 15:39:07 [reosarevok]
- (is the English name)
- 15:39:15 [reosarevok]
- But yeah, that's what I needed :)
- 15:39:53 [jesus2099]
- There are 3 of them ? see http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/アランフエス協奏曲
- 15:40:07 [reosarevok]
- Yep
- 15:40:16 [reosarevok]
- I know about the piece (it's Spanish)
- 15:40:24 [reosarevok]
- I just needed to be sure it was the right one :)
- 15:40:31 [jesus2099]
- Mineo: what’s your browser version ? that’s so strange !
- 15:40:36 [reosarevok]
- Last page of the 22 of recordings! :D
- 15:40:41 [jesus2099]
- I know the piece too, it’s great !
- 15:40:43 [jesus2099]
- reosarevok: ↗
- 15:40:55 [reosarevok]
- :)
- 15:41:07 [jesus2099]
- nikki: http://musicbrainz.org/work/074910e9-6305-3e00-9851-a1ef4e373cd2 works
- 15:42:06 [jesus2099]
- nikki: maybe because of the “(…)” !!!!
- 15:42:28 [kovacsur]
- jesus2099: the script retrieves Wikipedia urls from url ARs, you need to modify it if you want it to try to find pages based on the entity name
- 15:42:30 [jesus2099]
- http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/COSMOS_(宇宙%29
- 15:42:33 [Mineo]
- jesus2099: ok, this is really weird. I was going to say the browser most likely doesn't matter in this case, but for some reason, opera loads it (slow and without any css, but it does) :/
- 15:42:35 [reosarevok]
- nikki: you might want to remove the "Right now it doesn't work for works." parts
- 15:42:51 [nikki]
- reosarevok: so impatient! this site is really slow you know :P
- 15:42:55 [reosarevok]
- Mineo: it just loaded slowly for me too (although it managed to load with CSS too)
- 15:43:00 [jesus2099]
- kovacsur: OH ! How dumb (me) ! I thought it was AUTOMAGIC !
- 15:43:16 [nikki]
- the admin tab always takes forever to load >_<
- 15:43:33 [jesus2099]
- Mineo: OPERA RULES
- 15:43:37 [reosarevok]
- jesus2099: of course, adding all the wiki pages you can to works is completely recommended! :D
- 15:43:47 [jesus2099]
- reosarevok: you bet
- 15:44:53 [reosarevok]
- (well, all the ones that apply)
- 15:45:23 [reosarevok]
- Once we have decent i18n, we should probably load them all and just hide the ones that don't apply to the selected language or somthing
- 15:45:24 [reosarevok]
- Dunno
- 15:45:28 [reosarevok]
- But for now...
- 15:45:59 [jesus2099]
- * jesus2099 👍 likes
- 15:46:16 [jesus2099]
- this ↗ is http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/1f44d/
- 15:46:46 [jesus2099]
- I don’t have this one (5 digit coded unicode, wow) :(
- 15:47:23 [jesus2099]
- nikki’s userjs is updated
- 15:47:42 [nikki]
- * nikki can see that character
- 15:47:53 [nikki]
- although in colloquy it's just a smudge because the font's too small
- 15:49:05 [jesus2099]
- * jesus2099 wants it
- 15:49:57 [jesus2099]
- hey it seems that in english, some consider the word song to include the instrumentals !
- 15:49:59 [nikki]
- symbola from http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/
- 15:50:29 [Manny]
- Manny has joined #musicbrainz
- 15:50:40 [reosarevok]
- jesus2099: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Mogwai_songs
- 15:50:45 [reosarevok]
- (only one or two there have lyrics)
- 15:50:57 [jesus2099]
- english is weird at times
- 15:51:04 [nikki]
- jesus2099: oh, and http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-2805
- 15:51:21 [jesus2099]
- french should be the international language
- 15:51:39 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok votes for Latin!
- 15:51:54 [jesus2099]
- +1
- 15:51:56 [nikki]
- jesus2099: we already tried that :P
- 15:52:09 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok also wonders how long until wikipedians redirect all the pages in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Mogwai_songs to Mogwai
- 15:52:09 [jesus2099]
- nikki: try rfench or offset ?
- 15:52:45 [nikki]
- french
- 15:53:13 [jesus2099]
- ha ha :)
- 15:53:26 [jesus2099]
- That’s right ! C’était mieux avant
- 15:53:35 [jesus2099]
- nikki: does this ticket mean that we currently have to way to retrieve either full collection or any after the first 25 items ?
- 15:53:42 [jesus2099]
- to way→no way
- 15:54:04 [jesus2099]
- C’était mieux avant = good old times
- 15:54:17 [nikki]
- "it was better before"?
- 15:54:21 [jesus2099]
- yes :)
- 15:54:22 [reosarevok]
- Yeah
- 15:54:25 [nikki]
- :o!
- 15:54:32 [nikki]
- apparently I do still remember something :P
- 15:54:36 [jesus2099]
- but it’s a “funny” sentence in french
- 15:54:57 [nikki]
- I don't think it's possible to get more than 25 at the moment :/
- 15:55:07 [jesus2099]
- nikki: howdy
- 15:55:43 [jesus2099]
- I mean — crap ;)
- 15:56:02 [jesus2099]
- I wanted to make a so ultra cool stuff with this web service
- 15:56:25 [nikki]
- hmm. but didn't bitmap need it for his picard stuff
- 15:56:27 [nikki]
- * nikki prods bitmap
- 15:57:15 [jesus2099]
- thanks nikki vor the ticket, I voted +1, I’m your biggest fan
- 15:57:49 [jesus2099]
- I wanted to make this http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-4097 come trues
- 15:58:28 [jesus2099]
- by loading collection cache locally (localStorage) and then highlight stuff I have direclty in artist page and release-group page
- 15:58:44 [nikki]
- hmm. localStorage...
- 15:58:48 [nikki]
- * nikki gets ideas
- 15:59:00 [jesus2099]
- better than calling WS each time, this would be bad for MB
- 15:59:10 [jesus2099]
- collections can get big
- 15:59:27 [jesus2099]
- nikki: localStorage is so easy to use
- 15:59:33 [jesus2099]
- it rules
- 15:59:42 [nikki]
- I bet my opera is too old though
- 16:00:08 [jesus2099]
- nikki: which version ?
- 16:00:30 [jesus2099]
- I use localStorage in my userjs for quite some time maybe you’ve tested it , I don’t know
- 16:00:43 [jesus2099]
- thanks very much for the great font that contains U+1F44D THUMBS UP SIGN !
- 16:00:54 [jesus2099]
- Symbola
- 16:00:59 [nikki]
- hehe
- 16:01:06 [nikki]
- it has all the emoji stuff that was added as far as I can tell
- 16:01:23 [jesus2099]
- that’s rules ;)
- 16:02:20 [jesus2099]
- nikki reosarevok : english don’t say tunes to englobe both instr. and (sung) songs ?
- 16:03:13 [reosarevok]
- Sometimes, probably
- 16:03:20 [reosarevok]
- But it isn't a too common word
- 16:03:52 [reosarevok]
- Except for dubstep bedroom producers leaving BIG TUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNE comments on other bedroom producers' productions in SoundCloud
- 16:03:53 [reosarevok]
- :p
- 16:03:53 [CallerNo6]
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- 16:04:35 [jesus2099]
- oh, it was really better when French RULED THE WORLD DOMINATION
- 16:05:07 [jesus2099]
- with CAMEMBERT EVERYWHERE
- 16:05:31 [jesus2099]
- (and song ≠ instr.)
- 16:05:35 [jesus2099]
- ;)
- 16:06:25 [murdos]
- * murdos enjoys that not all French people are like jesus2099 :/
- 16:06:40 [jesus2099]
- and vice versa
- 16:06:54 [jesus2099]
- all jesus2099 are not like french
- 16:07:18 [jesus2099]
- oh mistook, that all french are not like murdos ;p
- 16:07:46 [jesus2099]
- please don’t cry because I vote no on one of your blind recording merges
- 16:08:13 [murdos]
- nikki: you could help me find a ticket? it's one regarding duplicated aliases (only for work?) when you're doing a merge
- 16:08:27 [nikki]
- let's see...
- 16:08:33 [murdos]
- I tried multiple search, but with no success :(
- 16:08:33 [jesus2099]
- chrono started
- 16:11:22 [murdos]
- * murdos wishes irccloud has an /ignore command...
- 16:11:27 [jesus2099]
- murdos: [off] TG
- 16:14:29 [jesus2099]
- [17:10] <murdos> [off] jesus2099: you never shut up? ← tu peux me parler français directement tu sais
- 16:14:50 [jesus2099]
- I don’t know how you do ninja funny stuff like this btw
- 16:15:01 [jesus2099]
- /help
- 16:15:25 [nikki]
- murdos: http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-2699 ?
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- 16:16:33 [murdos]
- nikki: this is it, yes. thanks!
- 16:16:48 [nikki]
- no problem :D
- 16:16:57 [reosarevok]
- http://musicbrainz.org/artist/fde4460b-868a-493e-8c53-221e418c8959/works finally! :D
- 16:17:03 [jesus2099]
- 7 minutes, I’ve seen better days, nikki (^_~;)
- 16:17:19 [ocharles]
- reosarevok would be proud of the amount of food I just put in the slow cooker
- 16:17:34 [reosarevok]
- Are you maybe suggesting I eat a lot? :p
- 16:17:39 [ocharles]
- i've seen your sandwiches :P
- 16:17:48 [reosarevok]
- Oh, true
- 16:17:50 [reosarevok]
- :)
- 16:18:26 [jesus2099]
- but I’m away now, because “some people” are upset or something
- 16:18:28 [ocharles]
- swede, beef, carrots, onions, bacon lardons, asparagus, sweet potato. and it's pratically overflowing
- 16:18:29 [ocharles]
- noms!
- 16:19:51 [nikki]
- * nikki thinks of reosarevok's sandwiches and laughs
- 16:20:02 [reosarevok]
- Hey, my sandwiches are awesome!
- 16:20:15 [nikki]
- big and burnt, you mean :P
- 16:21:32 [reosarevok]
- Well, they're more awesome when they don't burn :(
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- 16:38:24 [CallerNo6]
- * CallerNo6 is reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow%27s_Impossibility_Theorem ... well, /skimming/
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- 17:08:59 [CallerNo6]
- Will modbot remove an artist w/ no relationships if there's a pending edit for that artist?
- 17:09:56 [ianmcorvidae]
- it shouldn't, I think -- nikki?
- 17:10:22 [CallerNo6]
- example, http://musicbrainz.org/edit/16051802 ... http://musicbrainz.org/artist/bd114363-6ed6-401e-b46f-c0a7f2a09059
- 17:12:19 [nikki]
- it shouldn't be removed while there are edits shown on http://musicbrainz.org/artist/bd114363-6ed6-401e-b46f-c0a7f2a09059/open_edits
- 17:13:12 [CallerNo6]
- nikki, that's what I thought. The warning "This artist has no relationships, recordings..." is misleading
- 17:13:38 [nikki]
- yeah :/
- 17:13:41 [kovacsur]
- I ran into the same problem a couple of days ago http://musicbrainz.org/artist/52e7653f-61a2-4a00-b547-da7f066cc38c/edits
- 17:14:06 [kovacsur]
- I'll cancel the not-quite-correct url relationship edit then
- 17:14:08 [hawke_]
- Blah, I hate how /artist/*/edits doesn’t show open edits first. :-/
- 17:14:14 [reosarevok]
- There, added an URL
- 17:14:21 [reosarevok]
- No doubt now
- 17:14:22 [reosarevok]
- :p
- 17:15:55 [CallerNo6]
- I was going to do that, but wanted to verify first that the warning was a false alarm.
- 17:16:40 [reosarevok]
- I like the warning because it makes people get scared and add URLs
- 17:16:50 [reosarevok]
- But yeah, if it makes them add not correct URLs... :p
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- 17:18:35 [derwin]
- jesus2099 : “tiếng Việt, đẹp quá, 漢字テストです。) displays correctly for me.
- 17:18:47 [derwin]
- jesus2099 : I am on linux + irssi
- 17:21:01 [ianmcorvidae]
- likewise, at least when you just pasted it
- 17:21:13 [ianmcorvidae]
- sometimes I have issues with screen and its unicode weirdnesses
- 17:21:20 [ianmcorvidae]
- should really switch to tmux or something more modern
- 17:21:21 [jesus2099]
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- 17:21:30 [jesus2099]
- derwin: thanks ! and what’s your OS/brwoser ?
- 17:22:02 [ocharles]
- I think it displays correctly for me too, on erc
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- 17:28:28 [derwin]
- jesus2099: browser?
- 17:28:42 [jesus2099]
- yes :)
- 17:28:48 [derwin]
- I use chrome and/or firefox
- 17:28:50 [derwin]
- but not to irc
- 17:29:16 [jesus2099]
- Actually what I wanted to know is do yo usee this nnbsp between asterisks : *** *** ? and is it thinner than nbsp : *** *** ?
- 17:29:25 [ocharles]
- beta restarting in 5 minutes from now
- 17:29:39 [jesus2099]
- ocharles + derwin ↗ :)
- 17:29:55 [ianmcorvidae]
- heh, I use a monospace font so they look the same to me
- 17:30:05 [ianmcorvidae]
- so I Can't help :)
- 17:30:06 [ocharles]
- jesus2099: I don't know what you're asking
- 17:30:21 [jesus2099]
- between my *** and *** I inserted a blank character
- 17:30:22 [ocharles]
- but I also use a monospace font
- 17:30:29 [ocharles]
- then no, I can't see them
- 17:30:33 [jesus2099]
- can you see blank, thinner first then normal second ?
- 17:30:48 [ocharles]
- no
- 17:30:52 [jesus2099]
- you see replacement square box character or something like that then ?
- 17:30:58 [ocharles]
- no
- 17:31:04 [jesus2099]
- erh :D
- 17:31:14 [jesus2099]
- what do you ***see*** then ?
- 17:31:17 [ocharles]
- *** ?
- 17:31:18 [jesus2099]
- no
- 17:31:20 [ocharles]
- yes.
- 17:31:26 [kovacsur]
- jesus2099: on Win 7/XChat-WDK, default monospace font, the narrow non-breaking space is a missing character (Square with 202F)
- 17:31:27 [ianmcorvidae]
- jesus2099: both spaces look the same width
- 17:31:35 [jesus2099]
- ocharles: *** ***
- 17:31:35 [ianmcorvidae]
- because our fonts don't differentiate widths
- 17:31:43 [jesus2099]
- there is a thin space, isn’t it ? ocharles
- 17:31:48 [ocharles]
- no, there is just a normal space
- 17:32:03 [jesus2099]
- ah ok that’s ok too, thanks ocharles :)
- 17:32:10 [ocharles]
- but I really, I don't care enough to fuel your obsession with making stuff hard to read by shoving unicode crap into it, so I'm staying out
- 17:32:27 [jesus2099]
- kovacsur: thanks very much for the testing guys :)
- 17:32:42 [kovacsur]
- jesus2099: all this is irrelevant though, you should be testing display in media players.
- 17:32:50 [jesus2099]
- ianmcorvidae: thanks, no big deal if the same width on monospace as long as it’s still a space
- 17:33:11 [jesus2099]
- I thought your IRC were like mine using the OS fonts replacements etc. not monospace
- 17:33:17 [jesus2099]
- I have no pb anywhere
- 17:33:27 [jesus2099]
- I mean 100% ok in media player
- 17:33:50 [jesus2099]
- but foobar2000 is really unicode friendly
- 17:34:19 [derwin]
- jesus2099: I also use a monospace font in irc.
- 17:34:32 [jesus2099]
- I’m testing this because it’s the way spacings are printed before punctuation !?:;» etc. in french
- 17:34:32 [derwin]
- both of them look like "** **"
- 17:34:36 [derwin]
- I can't see any different spacing
- 17:34:47 [jesus2099]
- derwin: no problem, as long as it’s a space :)
- 17:36:16 [jesus2099]
- wow there is a new style of boxing that is INCREDIBLY SHITTY on http://musicbrainz.org/release/3a24578a-29be-46f3-bbe9-2a23feb6b0e7 ity’s a book style package patented by Pozzoli MI2007A02316 and I can’t get to put the CD back into it !
- 17:36:44 [jesus2099]
- * jesus2099 is so 2000% IDIOT
- 17:37:19 [jesus2099]
- I didn’t see there is a sliding slot on its side, I was trying to force it frontwards
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- 17:44:00 [CallerNo6]
- * CallerNo6 is looking at http://www.coactivate.org/projects/opencore/summary , an interesting attempt to make a single log-in portal.
- 17:44:37 [hawke_]
- CallerNo6: Looking at http://musicbrainz.org/edit/16051802 I think it’s variously composer and performer, not sure about arranger
- 17:45:17 [CallerNo6]
- hawke_: I thought that might be the case. I wouldn't vote "no" based on that, but I'm not crazy about mixing the two either.
- 17:46:16 [hawke_]
- CallerNo6: Doesn’t help that I don’t read German, though
- 17:47:06 [nikki]
- is there somewhere with it in german?
- 17:47:15 [derwin]
- <- can read german
- 17:47:26 [hawke_]
- Well, http://musicbrainz.org/edit/16051802 …
- 17:47:32 [hawke_]
- Is that not German? ;-)
- 17:47:39 [nikki]
- yes, but what's the question?
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- 17:48:47 [hawke_]
- What those recordings are…
- 17:49:30 [hawke_]
- And whether the people involved are composer, arranger, etc.
- 17:49:58 [nikki]
- heh, "Wassser" has too many 's'es
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- 17:50:11 [Mineo]
- * Mineo was yikesing at that, too
- 17:50:18 [CallerNo6]
- * CallerNo6 's question was, is that edit mixing compser-as-track-artist with performer-as-track-artist... I think mixing the two in one release is the worst of both worlds
- 17:50:26 [jesus2099_]
- murdos comment c’est déjà les MP ?
- 17:50:46 [murdos]
- c'est [off] au début de ton message
- 17:50:58 [jesus2099_]
- non pas ça,
- 17:51:03 [jesus2099_]
- le truc pour discuter ensemble
- 17:52:07 [reosarevok]
- That's /query username
- 17:52:46 [hawke_]
- CallerNo6: Right, but IMO the way to figure that out is to find information on the relevant works, so we can see who did what with them
- 17:54:02 [nikki]
- * nikki finds http://www.phono-schop.ch/product_info.php/info/p1819_1000-Jahre-Oesterreich---Volksmusik.html at least
- 17:54:15 [CallerNo6]
- hawke_: or harangue the original editor :-)
- 17:54:24 [hawke_]
- CallerNo6: Or both. :-)
- 17:54:29 [CallerNo6]
- truth!
- 17:54:38 [hawke_]
- CallerNo6: My way has the advantages of potentially getting the relevant works created
- 17:54:55 [hawke_]
- But as I say, not knowing German, google search results for this stuff are less than useful to me.
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- 18:12:29 [reosarevok]
- heh
- 18:12:34 [reosarevok]
- Of course, it had to happen
- 18:12:35 [reosarevok]
- http://kimjongunlookingatthings.tumblr.com/
- 18:15:43 [reosarevok]
- Heh
- 18:15:52 [reosarevok]
- Sales of cars in Spain go down 17% in 2011
- 18:16:02 [reosarevok]
- Sales of luxury cars in Spain go up 83% in 2011
- 18:16:24 [derwin]
- luxury car number is more volatile
- 18:16:35 [derwin]
- that statistic is not compelling.
- 18:16:39 [reosarevok]
- Sure
- 18:16:41 [reosarevok]
- But still
- 18:17:10 [derwin]
- also, 2010 could have been a remarkably bad year for sales, year-over-year for one year is not a great stat either.
- 18:17:24 [derwin]
- but other than that, I'm outraged at those rich people buying htings
- 18:17:25 [ocharles]
- admit it reosarevok, you just got out stats'ed
- 18:17:31 [reosarevok]
- :p
- 18:17:42 [derwin]
- it would have been much better if they hadn't contributed their wealth to the economy
- 18:17:47 [derwin]
- and instead kept it in a bank :)
- 18:17:50 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok can perfectly admit it's a small statistic
- 18:18:03 [reosarevok]
- derwin: probably no bank, this is Spain :p
- 18:18:14 [derwin]
- hehe, under their paella
- 18:18:22 [reosarevok]
- Home of 25% of the 500 euro notes of the EU
- 18:19:20 [derwin]
- huh, what is the reason?
- 18:19:32 [reosarevok]
- (heh, apparently in 2007 "65% of all the money in circulation in Spain [was] in the form of 500 euro notes.
- 18:19:32 [reosarevok]
- ")
- 18:19:52 [reosarevok]
- Less cumbersome way of storing big amounts of undeclared money
- 18:20:12 [derwin]
- that's more or less what I figured :)
- 18:20:35 [reosarevok]
- It's pretty common for sales of, say, houses to pay a relatively big percentage of it in undeclared money and claim a lower price to avoid taxes
- 18:21:06 [reosarevok]
- (also, very few self-employed people, from dentists to plumbers, make invoices / pay VAT)
- 18:22:19 [reosarevok]
- (same with young people, especially those working part-time, as it's cheaper for both employer and employee and, let's be honest, nobody in Spain gives a fuck about taxes)
- 18:23:41 [derwin]
- wait, you mean if taxes are too high, rational actors avoid paying them via extralegal means?
- 18:23:45 [reosarevok]
- No
- 18:23:52 [reosarevok]
- I mean if taxes exist
- 18:23:52 [reosarevok]
- :p
- 18:23:56 [derwin]
- I thought all we had to do in order to collect 90% of rich peoples wealth in taxes is tax them 90%
- 18:24:13 [derwin]
- and that there was no way they could possibly avoid paying those taxes by say, controlling the tax regime by proxy
- 18:24:26 [derwin]
- I'm shocked, shocked to hear these things
- 18:24:28 [reosarevok]
- :p
- 18:24:43 [reosarevok]
- I can understand why people don't want to pay taxes
- 18:24:44 [derwin]
- occupy #musicbrainz!
- 18:25:02 [reosarevok]
- I'm quite annoyed when those people complain later about stuff that was supposed to be paid with said taxes working badly
- 18:25:03 [reosarevok]
- :p
- 18:25:09 [derwin]
- those lousy 1% people, none of whom I presume earned or deserve their wealth!! * shakes fist *
- 18:26:53 [reosarevok]
- (or with, say, people who stop working and get money from the state because they claim to have terrible incapacitating illnesses which basically avoid them living a normal life, and then have a normal life and happily speak about all the money they're cheating the state out of)
- 18:27:47 [reosarevok]
- Oh, I have no problems with people who earned and deserve their wealth, although them being a bit less individualistic would be nice
- 18:29:04 [reosarevok]
- That being said, people who run a semi-public bank, do it badly, and when fired after the bank collapses happily take millions in compensation fees anger me only slightly less than the idiots who agreed to those contracts in the first place :p
- 18:30:55 [derwin]
- well, those contracts are industry standard
- 18:31:05 [derwin]
- to me that's an argument to not hve "semi-public banks"
- 18:31:41 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok can barely see a difference, seeing that the private banks who had the same issue paid those compensations with the money they got from the government to avoid them from sinking
- 18:31:43 [derwin]
- like, there's an error in thinking about CEOs of "failing companies" pay, too
- 18:32:01 [derwin]
- if you don't pay the CEO of a failing company as much or more as the CEO of a non-failing company, you will not be able to attract CEO labor
- 18:32:21 [derwin]
- and if the CEO comes in and the company continues to fail, it says nothing about whether it is failing less or more
- 18:34:34 [reosarevok]
- Yeah, but if the CEO pay comes from my tax money even though they are not public employees, I can get predictably annoyed :p
- 18:35:25 [reosarevok]
- (mostly talking about the private banks now)
- 18:36:53 [andres]
- There is a good reason not too want to pay VAT as a self employed person: It such a bother to coordinate regularly with the revenue office...
- 18:37:09 [reosarevok]
- Of course, given that I absolutely fail to understand how a person can need and use more than, say, 3k� per month, I guess I am unable to understand everything that comes with amounts of money over that
- 18:37:10 [reosarevok]
- :p
- 18:38:35 [reosarevok]
- andres: true, and the lack of decent, fast systems for that is one of my main complaints about tax systems
- 18:39:04 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok is not annoyed to have to pay, but he is annoyed to be told "hey, figure out how much you must pay and then do it"
- 18:39:28 [andres]
- I regularly use up 3 days of doing VAT stuff. 2 days of procrastination/dread and one day of actually doing it ;)
- 18:39:49 [andres]
- You have to do it every month here..
- 18:40:08 [reosarevok]
- 3 months in Spain IIRC
- 18:40:30 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok thankfully was in a sector that didn't pay VAT when he was self-employed
- 18:40:54 [andres]
- That exists?
- 18:40:57 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok thinks most people in Spain just pay someone to do it for them
- 18:41:16 [reosarevok]
- andres: in Spain, translation of cultural stuff (in my case, videogames, but apparently it counts)
- 18:43:30 [derwin]
- otoh, if the government is going to automate that, they have to have lots of information about you
- 18:44:59 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok doesn't particularly mind that
- 18:45:20 [reosarevok]
- But hey, they could make it an opt-in thing :p
- 18:46:18 [reosarevok]
- otoh, if the government is to make sure people pay what they should, they need to have that information anyway
- 18:49:09 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok seems to remember here in Estonia it's common for your national ID card to also work as a login card for your internet banking
- 18:49:19 [reosarevok]
- Which I guess means they already do something like that
- 18:50:28 [reosarevok]
- I imagine it's relatively important for them to control tax payments well, given that they refuse to get indebted (which is probably a sane idea) and that money needs to come from somewhere
- 18:53:01 [reosarevok]
- http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-4112 / http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-4111 interesting
- 18:54:07 [reosarevok]
- Also, opinions on http://musicbrainz.org/edit/16055941 ?
- 18:56:32 [reosarevok]
- Also II, someone who uses the cover art option in Picard go help http://forums.musicbrainz.org/viewtopic.php?id=3334
- 19:04:19 [hawke_]
- MBS-4112: Sexy, I want
- 19:04:42 [hawke_]
- MBS-4111…less so, but still a good idea
- 19:05:35 [reosarevok]
- Both would seem to be oriented to turning MB into a more useful site for actually browsing
- 19:05:40 [reosarevok]
- Which is a good thing IMO
- 19:06:34 [hawke_]
- Yup
- 19:06:57 [hawke_]
- I kinda worry that it will lead to some wrong edits though
- 19:07:11 [hawke_]
- Since we’ll have to decide which release is the “main” one to display
- 19:07:29 [hawke_]
- And if we do that, someone might have a weird/different version and try to edit it
- 19:08:30 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok suspects just taking the earlier release without actually advertising it as such would work
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- 19:09:21 [hawke_]
- reosarevok: Yes, that would be one way to find the main one. Still the problem applies
- 19:09:40 [reosarevok]
- Well, yes
- 19:09:41 [hawke_]
- reosarevok: Another way would be the one which has the most recordings which appear on more than one release in the RG
- 19:09:46 [reosarevok]
- But it applies to everything
- 19:10:11 [hawke_]
- It applies more when people don’t think about which version they have, or how many different versions there are
- 19:10:25 [reosarevok]
- I mean, people keep sometimes adding / removing tracks from releases
- 19:10:32 [hawke_]
- And our current RG display kind of forces you to do that.
- 19:10:45 [reosarevok]
- And for the cover thing to change they would have to go into a release and change it, wouldn't they?
- 19:10:46 [hawke_]
- Right, so that display problem will make it harder. :-/
- 19:10:54 [reosarevok]
- So they would still see if it applies to theirs or not
- 19:10:57 [hawke_]
- Yes, not worried about covers. ;-)
- 19:11:06 [reosarevok]
- Oooh
- 19:11:09 [reosarevok]
- I thought you were
- 19:11:17 [reosarevok]
- Dunno
- 19:11:54 [v6lur]
- https://online.gema.de/werke/detailPage.do?dbkey=27781785&title=FIRE+AND+ICE&pdf=false credits the same 3 persons as composer and author -- does author there equal our lyricist?
- 19:12:14 [reosarevok]
- I think in theory it does
- 19:12:17 [hawke_]
- I believe so.
- 19:12:28 [reosarevok]
- But I also think it's pretty common for bands to credit everyone as everything
- 19:12:34 [reosarevok]
- So everyone shares royalty money
- 19:12:49 [hawke_]
- lol
- 19:14:09 [hawke_]
- Tell that to rocknrollarchivist: http://musicbrainz.org/edit/15875376
- 19:14:11 [reosarevok]
- Oh, hawke_, did I show you http://www.atmaclassique.com/En/Albums/AlbumInfo.aspx?AlbumID=360 ?
- 19:14:58 [hawke_]
- reosarevok: You didn’t.
- 19:15:14 [reosarevok]
- That label is smaller than Naxos and seems to include full booklets
- 19:15:42 [reosarevok]
- Well, almost full - no back cover there so no barcode :(
- 19:16:01 [bitmap]
- nikki: http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-2805 was fixed a long time ago I believe
- 19:16:22 [reosarevok]
- But it still looks like a reasonable one to try to import/fix if you want a cleanup effort
- 19:16:52 [bitmap]
- ah, duplicate of http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-2827
- 19:17:48 [bitmap]
- technically mine was the duplicate :)
- 19:19:30 [reosarevok]
- hawke_: other option would be to choose a Naxos series: http://www.naxos.com/series/spanish_classics.htm (I'm doing this one, but you can see links to others in the sidebar)
- 19:20:18 [hawke_]
- reosarevok: Thanks
- 19:21:22 [reosarevok]
- Now, if you organise one, I will probably help
- 19:21:30 [reosarevok]
- I would imagine other people would too :)
- 19:22:02 [hawke_]
- reosarevok: Things to do: decide on a schedule, decide where to start. ;-)
- 19:22:09 [hawke_]
- Once a day for an hour?
- 19:22:13 [hawke_]
- Once a week for two hours?
- 19:22:40 [hawke_]
- Once a month for 24 hours?
- 19:24:36 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok guesses once (a day/every few days) for a while would be OK
- 19:24:46 [reosarevok]
- Since we don't expect to have to consult everything
- 19:24:52 [reosarevok]
- Just specific doubts
- 19:25:16 [reosarevok]
- (I guess)
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- 19:26:07 [reosarevok]
- murdos: if you haven't seen them yet, I guess luks' tickets http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-4112 / http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-4111 might interest you
- 19:26:44 [reosarevok]
- (as they are related somehow with what we talked earlier on making MB more visitor-friendly)
- 19:28:09 [CallerNo6]
- Is that the goal? I always imagined there'd be a separate site for browsing vs. the editing-centric one.
- 19:28:34 [reosarevok]
- That's another way of doing it
- 19:28:44 [reosarevok]
- (and one that also sounds reasonable)
- 19:28:55 [reosarevok]
- I actually seem to remember that was closer to luks' idea
- 19:29:03 [hawke_]
- I wouldn’t mind having the browsing-centric one
- 19:29:03 [reosarevok]
- Which means I was kinda surprised to see those tickets
- 19:32:07 [hawke_]
- reosarevok: I added the naxos series ones to the cleanup list google doc
- 19:33:23 [hawke_]
- Other thing I’m worried about is edit collisions, two people making the same edit
- 19:33:32 [reosarevok]
- You mean for the cleanup thing?
- 19:33:38 [hawke_]
- It wouldn’t be the end of the world, but it would add a lot of inefficiency
- 19:33:38 [hawke_]
- Yeah
- 19:33:43 [reosarevok]
- Just make people write who's working on what
- 19:33:54 [hawke_]
- Yeah, but how to divide it?
- 19:34:13 [hawke_]
- Probably best to have a plan for starting on it.
- 19:35:18 [hawke_]
- With two people you can start at opposite ends of something, with more people it gets complicated
- 19:35:35 [reosarevok]
- Just note what releases you're doing
- 19:35:50 [reosarevok]
- Like, I'd copy the full list
- 19:36:04 [reosarevok]
- When someone wants to add / fix one, they put the name by it
- 19:36:04 [murdos]
- reosarevok: I was the first to vote on these tickets, but thanks ;-)
- 19:36:17 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok guessed so (at murdos) but just in case :)
- 19:36:47 [reosarevok]
- hawke_: these releases take long enough for it to be not too annoying to update the list before starting another one :p
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- 19:37:38 [reosarevok]
- http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2012/01/02/violinists-can%E2%80%99t-tell-the-difference-between-stradivarius-violins-and-new-ones/ (via lidel)
- 19:39:07 [hawke_]
- reosarevok: I saw that one…
- 19:43:13 [hawke_]
- Pretty interesting article
- 19:43:22 [hawke_]
- No big surprise, but doesn’t really change anything
- 19:43:51 [reosarevok]
- Yeah (to all of them)
- 19:47:26 [reosarevok]
- luks: I've banned the guy but I can't remove posts, can you please do so? http://forums.musicbrainz.org/viewtopic.php?id=3335
- 19:50:39 [luks]
- I removed it
- 19:50:49 [reosarevok]
- Thanks! :)
- 19:51:28 [luks]
- I though moderators can remove posts
- 19:51:39 [luks]
- what's the point if they can't?
- 19:51:45 [reosarevok]
- Good question
- 19:51:54 [reosarevok]
- We can ban users and censore words
- 19:51:59 [reosarevok]
- Apparently
- 19:52:21 [luks]
- I'm sure voice deleted some posts in the past
- 19:52:35 [reosarevok]
- Hmm
- 19:52:38 [reosarevok]
- Maybe I'm just blind then
- 19:52:46 [reosarevok]
- Where is the delete link?
- 19:53:06 [luks]
- bottom right
- 19:53:08 [luks]
- "Report | Delete | Edit | Quote"
- 19:53:49 [reosarevok]
- Report | Delete | Edit | Quote only for mine
- 19:53:55 [reosarevok]
- For others, Report | Quote
- 19:54:08 [luks]
- weird
- 19:54:56 [reosarevok]
- VxJasonxV / drsaunde: can you check if the forum gives you the option to delete posts?
- 19:55:24 [hawke_]
- Aww, I can’t access that topic.
- 19:56:02 [reosarevok]
- hawke_, it's removed now
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- 19:56:43 [hawke_]
- reosarevok: I assumed, I wondered what would get someone banned…
- 19:57:00 [reosarevok]
- It was spam
- 19:57:05 [reosarevok]
- (in the signature)
- 19:57:27 [reosarevok]
- With the clever disguise of a guy with 1 post complaining about how he came to the forum a long time ago and it wasn't full of spam :p
- 19:57:45 [reosarevok]
- (which it is not, because we remove it :p)
- 19:58:39 [v6lur]
- hrmph. i wonder why picard (0.16) doesn't load writer ARs for this track http://musicbrainz.org/recording/3ee6f233-f54d-4c02-970d-752942a12b2b
- 19:59:01 [v6lur]
- is it becaus they are specifically that (i.e. "writer"), not composer or lyricist?
- 19:59:08 [luks]
- yes
- 19:59:34 [luks]
- http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/PICARD-21
- 20:02:53 [v6lur]
- * v6lur voted for it...
- 20:03:17 [luks]
- it would be more useful to suggest a solution :)
- 20:04:38 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok agrees with either using composer or just allowing it for plugins / scripts
- 20:04:43 [reosarevok]
- But at least the latter should be done
- 20:04:50 [v6lur]
- either of those already mentioned there suits me :)
- 20:05:14 [v6lur]
- or even both of them
- 20:05:28 [reosarevok]
- Well, the latter needs to be done regardless of the first being done too, doesn't it?
- 20:05:55 [hawke_]
- luks: What’s wrong with just making it available in Picard as %writer%?
- 20:06:17 [hawke_]
- It doesn’t work for ID3 because you need Picard→ID3 tag mapping, but otherwise should be fine
- 20:06:29 [luks]
- well, I personally wouldn't want that written to ogg files
- 20:07:11 [djce]
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- 20:07:12 [luks]
- I'll probably add some configuration for mapping ARs to tags
- 20:07:28 [reosarevok]
- Why wouldn't you want it in ogg files?
- 20:07:35 [reosarevok]
- (just curious)
- 20:07:50 [luks]
- I'd like to have it in composer instead
- 20:08:06 [hawke_]
- luks: Sure, but that’s trivial taggerscript
- 20:13:20 [hawke_]
- I wonder if a lot of 'writer' ARs could be improved with an 'or' attribute for some ARs
- 20:13:47 [hawke_]
- i.e. "composed by A or B or C”, “lyrics by B or C or X”
- 20:17:21 [hawke_]
- I know there was a ticket or forum post or something asking for that, but I can’t find it
- 20:20:30 [hawke_]
- Found it: http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-4059
- 20:21:45 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok prefers unknown + annotation to linking uncertain stuff
- 20:21:50 [reosarevok]
- But it might be just me
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- 20:22:52 [kovacsur]
- reosarevok, we lose semantics that way, and can't use the data in searches, etc.
- 20:23:11 [reosarevok]
- Sure
- 20:23:25 [hawke_]
- reosarevok: I think it’s a mostly-adequate workaround for the time being
- 20:23:34 [reosarevok]
- But the other way makes the relationships turn from something you can trust to something you can trust sometimes, but is just a guess other times
- 20:23:41 [hawke_]
- But if we could find a way to represent that, that would be nice
- 20:23:51 [hawke_]
- reosarevok: That’s what we have now. ;-)
- 20:24:05 [reosarevok]
- Well, it shouldn't be :p
- 20:24:17 [reosarevok]
- As people are not supposed to add uncertainties and random guesses
- 20:24:38 [reosarevok]
- I mean, if we have "2) John Smith or Peter James on drums;" and someone adds one or both, it's just wrong
- 20:24:39 [kovacsur]
- A lot of data we store is uncertain by nature
- 20:25:47 [tommy_o]
- hey everyone, I'm following up on a edit note I received when adding allmusic links to an artist (The Chemical Brothers). the 'Discography Relationship Type' page of the wiki states that Allmusic.com '...discourage[s] systematic linking', but I can't find that anywhere else. am I okay adding allmusic links for artists?
- 20:26:04 [reosarevok]
- tommy_o, I think they *used* to discourage it
- 20:26:19 [reosarevok]
- There's an Allmusic relationship type now, including for artists
- 20:26:43 [reosarevok]
- So yeah, feel free to add allmusic links, but better do it using such relationship :)
- 20:26:49 [tommy_o]
- I think they used to use some kind of http get to SQL request or something similar (from an old Wikipedia reference page I read in the past)
- 20:26:53 [tommy_o]
- alright, thanks!
- 20:27:13 [reosarevok]
- kovacsur, such as? (not that I don't agree, but still)
- 20:27:14 [tommy_o]
- reosarevok: can I edit the Wikipedia page to reflect that?
- 20:27:40 [reosarevok]
- (normally we're supposed to add stuff from liners or other trusted sources, which might be wrong, sure, like anything can, but...)
- 20:27:52 [kovacsur]
- reosarevok: most of the data related to authorship, including dates
- 20:27:55 [reosarevok]
- tommy_o: a) Wikipedia is just Wikipedia, this is just a wiki ;)
- 20:28:26 [reosarevok]
- tommy_o: b) for Relationship Type pages, which are official-ish, it's better if we follow the appropriate procedure, can you link me to it?
- 20:28:28 [hawke_]
- reosarevok: http://books.google.com/books?id=MyfObhq6b-oC&lpg=PP1&pg=PA3#v=onepage&q&f=false
- 20:28:29 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok is lazy
- 20:28:32 [tommy_o]
- right, I mean a Wikipedia page that describes how Allmusic was transitioning their httpd structure, and how Wikipedia Foundation was transitioning to comply with new format
- 20:28:38 [hawke_]
- reosarevok: 20 Jun 1928
- 20:28:52 [tommy_o]
- reosarevok: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Discography_Relationship_Type#Guidelines
- 20:29:16 [reosarevok]
- hawke_, not saying that's not happening
- 20:29:29 [reosarevok]
- Just saying that we need a very good way of telling data users that this is not verified
- 20:29:41 [ZaphodBeeblebrox]
- hey can someone with direct db fuu help me find out what happened with album 2dfac331-97a8-483a-8774-f9a2a3cfd831 ?
- 20:29:42 [reosarevok]
- Or less verified than the rest by some orders of magnitude :P
- 20:30:11 [kovacsur]
- reosarevok, I think the data should still be verified
- 20:30:13 [reosarevok]
- And I don't think a simple attribute is that... might be, though, and maybe I'm just being too conservative
- 20:30:30 [hawke_]
- reosarevok: The point is, that this is pretty well-verified, but the best researched sources don’t always have the info
- 20:30:52 [hawke_]
- reosarevok: And they have a (very) educated guess
- 20:31:36 [hawke_]
- You see this a fair amount in classical works too
- 20:31:39 [kovacsur]
- Basically, the idea is to make the uncertainity explicit.
- 20:31:41 [reosarevok]
- Sure, and I can see other cases in which this is useful
- 20:31:45 [reosarevok]
- Yeah, including classical works
- 20:31:50 [reosarevok]
- I am not against it
- 20:31:55 [hawke_]
- some work was always attributed to A, but it turns out that it probably wasn’t
- 20:31:58 [reosarevok]
- I am just trying to find the safest way to add it
- 20:32:14 [hawke_]
- So the official line and what would/should be in MB would be A until that changes
- 20:32:35 [hawke_]
- And you’ll find it thus in a lot of liner notes before the wisdom changed
- 20:32:53 [hawke_]
- Just saying that there is no true fact. :-)
- 20:34:47 [hawke_]
- That said, I’d love a 5-level, color-coded data quality system. ;-)
- 20:35:29 [hawke_]
- and sliders for user-review of every fact.
- 20:57:33 [ZaphodBeeblebrox]
- erhm, why is still [non-album track] the default for that in picard? it should be [standalone recordings]
- 20:57:46 [ZaphodBeeblebrox]
- is there a bug no this?
- 20:57:49 [ZaphodBeeblebrox]
- on*
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- 21:11:44 [hawke_]
- ZaphodBeeblebrox: probably just because no one bothered to suggest that it should be.
- 21:11:58 [hawke_]
- The name of that should perhaps be a setting anyway
- 21:12:35 [luks]
- is it
- 21:12:38 [luks]
- er, it is
- 21:12:51 [hawke_]
- Is it? ;-)
- 21:13:25 [derwin]
- http://www.itsiticecream.com/
- 21:15:04 [hawke_]
- luks: I don’t see a way to set it.
- 21:15:20 [luks]
- Options -> Metadata
- 21:15:41 [luks]
- in the Custom Fields section
- 21:16:33 [hawke_]
- Oh, there it is.
- 21:19:03 [nikki]
- jesus2099: I don't see a space at all
- 21:20:24 [kyl]
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- 21:21:04 [kyl]
- can any one recommend multi track software?
- 21:21:55 [reosarevok]
- derwin, maybe?
- 21:22:25 [hawke_]
- define “multi track software”
- 21:22:47 [nikki]
- jesus2099: e.g. http://lmfao.org.uk/spacething.png
- 21:23:37 [kyl]
- to record songs on a pc
- 21:24:33 [VxJasonxV]
- reosarevok, did you ever get an answer to that?
- 21:25:39 [kovacsur]
- kyl: for what OS?
- 21:26:01 [reosarevok]
- VxJasonxV, nope
- 21:26:07 [kyl]
- windows xr
- 21:26:14 [kyl]
- xp
- 21:26:49 [kovacsur]
- www.reaper.fm
- 21:28:58 [kepstin]
- huh. that's kind of neat; an album that I just bought included a little booklet containing a complete list of everything released by the record label
- 21:29:38 [nikki]
- oh?
- 21:29:48 [VxJasonxV]
- yes reosarevok , I do have a delete button on posts
- 21:30:02 [hawke_]
- kyl: Audacity
- 21:30:05 [kepstin]
- http://musicbrainz.org/label/43f1132f-9796-4a96-b898-b71ea7ad9b9b <- this one
- 21:30:10 [kovacsur]
- kepstin, that's pretty common for smaller labels
- 21:30:39 [reosarevok]
- VxJasonxV, I haven't :/
- 21:30:51 [reosarevok]
- luks, can you un-moderate me and add me again?
- 21:31:01 [VxJasonxV]
- I am a forum mod, you know.
- 21:31:17 [VxJasonxV]
- I have a delete button on /every/ post, not just my own.
- 21:31:27 [reosarevok]
- Yeah
- 21:31:30 [reosarevok]
- That's what I mean
- 21:31:31 [VxJasonxV]
- unless I completely misunderstood the issue, which I suspect I did
- 21:31:32 [VxJasonxV]
- k
- 21:31:32 [reosarevok]
- I am a forum mod
- 21:31:40 [VxJasonxV]
- oh, you mean remove moderation privileges.
- 21:31:40 [reosarevok]
- But I can only delete my own posts
- 21:31:47 [VxJasonxV]
- got it
- 21:32:14 [luks]
- reosarevok: not sure if that helps, but let me try
- 21:32:30 [reosarevok]
- Well, won't know until we try :)
- 21:32:57 [luks]
- now you are in the Members group
- 21:33:08 [luks]
- and now you are back to Moderators :)
- 21:33:17 [luks]
- ohh
- 21:33:20 [luks]
- my mistake
- 21:33:33 [luks]
- there are checkboxes to select which forums you can moderate
- 21:33:38 [luks]
- and you had selected none :)
- 21:33:53 [luks]
- that would explain it :)
- 21:33:58 [luks]
- fixed now
- 21:34:36 [VxJasonxV]
- yay
- 21:35:26 [reosarevok]
- Cool :)
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- 21:39:03 [kepstin]
- http://www.galleryac.com/feist-metals.html - huh. They list CD, LP, and digital downloads on the same page under one catalog number.
- 21:41:11 [reosarevok]
- Quite common
- 21:41:17 [reosarevok]
- (for them to share a cat#)
- 21:41:27 [reosarevok]
- At least outside JP that is
- 21:42:29 [kepstin]
- I suspect they have different barcodes, but those will probably be tricky to find :/
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- 21:44:10 [reosarevok]
- kepstin: CD - 0602527812106
- 21:44:27 [kepstin]
- well, I have the cd... that's not the barcode on it :)
- 21:44:31 [reosarevok]
- Vinyl 0602527834221
- 21:44:43 [reosarevok]
- Then there might be several versions :p
- 21:44:51 [kepstin]
- those are the barcodes from the US release, on cherrytree records
- 21:44:55 [kepstin]
- http://musicbrainz.org/release-group/b8f5f7a5-5a62-43b2-8099-cc1b0f8810fa
- 21:45:26 [kepstin]
- there's also an LP from polydor in europe
- 21:45:37 [reosarevok]
- And yours are?
- 21:45:38 [reosarevok]
- JP?
- 21:45:40 [reosarevok]
- CA?
- 21:45:41 [kepstin]
- canadian
- 21:45:41 [reosarevok]
- UK?
- 21:46:00 [kepstin]
- * kepstin is canadian after all, and this is a canadian record label releasing stuff by a canadian artist ;)
- 21:46:13 [reosarevok]
- CD 0827590630024
- 21:46:31 [reosarevok]
- Vinyl 0827590630017
- 21:46:34 [reosarevok]
- Can it be?
- 21:46:45 [kepstin]
- well, that matches my cd
- 21:46:46 [kovacsur]
- I found the same
- 21:46:47 [kepstin]
- could very well be :)
- 21:46:48 [reosarevok]
- That's what amazon.ca's ASIN's say
- 21:46:58 [kepstin]
- ah, i forgot about checking amazon :)
- 21:58:56 [kepstin]
- oh, fun, there's also multiple versions of this release with different bonus tracks on itunes and the amazon mp3 store.
- 21:59:07 [reosarevok]
- Tends to happen
- 22:05:21 [kepstin]
- ... then on the canadian itunes store, there's a version of it which has the bonus tracks from both the amazon store and the us itunes store.
- 22:06:18 [reosarevok]
- :D
- 22:07:01 [kepstin]
- ... and appears to have the wrong release date, it's a day off from everything else
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- 22:07:07 [kepstin]
- (a day early)
- 22:07:52 [reosarevok]
- Either that, or it *was* released a day early
- 22:08:01 [kepstin]
- http://itunes.apple.com/ca/album/metals/id470034532 could very well be
- 22:09:51 [reosarevok]
- hawke_: what was the URL of the gdocs thing?
- 22:10:10 [hawke_]
- reosarevok: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Apc8q9cSANzqdFppcDQ1R2w1TU1rUnRIMWV2d3VOOXc
- 22:10:37 [kepstin]
- http://musicbrainz.org/release-group/b8f5f7a5-5a62-43b2-8099-cc1b0f8810fa - well, it's a little more complete now...
- 22:11:26 [reosarevok]
- kepstin: do you have nikki's import-from-iTunes script?
- 22:11:34 [kepstin]
- no, I don't
- 22:11:50 [reosarevok]
- It's in userscripts
- 22:11:59 [reosarevok]
- Also, anyone knows what happened to my wiki? http://imgur.com/GyuZd
- 22:12:29 [hawke_]
- reosarevok: Something broken with CSS?
- 22:12:40 [hawke_]
- try a shift-reload?
- 22:13:03 [reosarevok]
- Oh, that worked
- 22:13:05 [reosarevok]
- Nice
- 22:13:10 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok didn't even know that existed
- 22:13:28 [kepstin]
- hmm. does it seem like http://www.galleryac.com/feist-metals.html would work for buying the digital release anywhere in the world to you?
- 22:13:48 [hawke_]
- reosarevok: It flushes the cache for the page and reloads everything from the server
- 22:14:05 [reosarevok]
- kepstin: it certainly looks like I could
- 22:14:22 [kepstin]
- * kepstin is trying to decide whether to use 'worldwide' for that :)
- 22:15:14 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok is not going to pay for it but it seems like it would sell it to me
- 22:15:36 [hawke_]
- Wow, I wish for a way to build build “ensemble presets”, to quickly/easily build a set of ARs to be applied to recordings
- 22:16:01 [hawke_]
- I guess that’ll have to be a feature request for ocharles’ relationship editor
- 22:17:55 [kepstin]
- http://musicbrainz.org/label/43f1132f-9796-4a96-b898-b71ea7ad9b9b?page=3 - it's kind of annoying that this page doesn't show media type now :/
- 22:18:57 [reosarevok]
- wow
- 22:19:01 [reosarevok]
- I hadn't noticed it didn't
- 22:19:05 [reosarevok]
- That's kinda silly
- 22:25:11 [reosarevok]
- hawke_, would be nice if you allowed me to edit :p
- 22:25:15 [reosarevok]
- nick at gmail
- 22:29:04 [hawke_]
- reosarevok: Done
- 22:30:27 [kovacsur]
- Can anyone give me an approximate for the highest number of releases on a label (in MB)?
- 22:30:42 [kovacsur]
- (contemplating the viability of a userscript)
- 22:31:27 [reosarevok]
- nikki or ianmcorvidae can give you exact data I bet
- 22:32:10 [Mineo]
- * Mineo guesses it's more than 100
- 22:32:15 [Mineo]
- 1000, even
- 22:32:29 [kovacsur]
- "more than 100" would be pretty safe to assume. :D
- 22:33:28 [nikki]
- 10,248
- 22:33:33 [nikki]
- http://musicbrainz.org/label/157afde4-4bf5-4039-8ad2-5a15acc85176 :P
- 22:33:41 [kovacsur]
- thank you nikki :)
- 22:34:05 [nikki]
- the next highest is http://beta.musicbrainz.org/label/011d1192-6f65-45bd-85c4-0400dd45693e with 6518
- 22:34:25 [kovacsur]
- heh, I should have guessed it was [no label]
- 22:35:10 [hawke_]
- nikki: One is on beta, the other is not? ;-)
- 22:35:36 [nikki]
- hawke_: the first one didn't get chance to redirect before I copied the url
- 22:35:47 [reosarevok]
- heh
- 22:35:49 [reosarevok]
- userscript? :p
- 22:35:58 [nikki]
- and there are 781 labels with over 100 releases, 48 with over 1000
- 22:36:01 [nikki]
- yes :P
- 22:36:31 [nikki]
- it's about the only way I can actually stay on beta, given all the links and searches that take me straight to the main server
- 22:37:15 [reosarevok]
- So only one is over 9000?
- 22:37:17 [reosarevok]
- Awwww
- 22:37:59 [Mineo]
- hehe
- 22:40:54 [nikki]
- http://pastebin.com/PJ6YWr5H the ones over 1000
- 22:41:41 [reosarevok]
- Is Jamendo a real label?
- 22:41:45 [gioele]
- 21. Jamendo | 2131 :)
- 22:41:52 [gioele]
- reosarevok: thinking the same
- 22:45:42 [Leftmost]
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- 22:56:05 [VxJasonxV]
- if bandcamp is not a label, jamendo is not either.
- 22:56:06 [VxJasonxV]
- I think
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- 22:57:57 [kovacsur]
- all of these are basically distributors
- 22:58:45 [hawke_]
- Isn’t distributor a label type, though?
- 22:58:47 [kovacsur]
- even if bandcamp claims they aren't
- 22:59:53 [reosarevok]
- Now, http://www.naxos.com/series/Canadian_Classics.htm is an easy series to add
- 22:59:56 [reosarevok]
- :)
- 23:00:29 [reosarevok]
- hawke_: it is, but I would call bandcamp more of a shop than a distributor...
- 23:00:47 [reosarevok]
- A shop that lets you get free stuff sometimes is still a shop
- 23:01:14 [hawke_]
- Sure, but I don’t see the distinction. Lots of labels have ways to buy directly from them too.
- 23:02:06 [Leftmost]
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- 23:03:17 [reosarevok]
- But they also have some involvement
- 23:03:34 [reosarevok]
- Bandcamp does nothing to a specific artist, it just "is"
- 23:03:43 [reosarevok]
- You go, put your stuff there, things happen
- 23:04:26 [reosarevok]
- (I would say Label X distributes Artist X's catalog, but I would say Artist X distributes his catalog on Bandcamp)
- 23:06:29 [kovacsur]
- reosarevok, you're actually right
- 23:06:59 [kovacsur]
- apparently actual online music distributors exist as well
- 23:08:08 [kovacsur]
- probably everyone but me knows this company, but still: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TuneCore
- 23:08:45 [reosarevok]
- kovacsur, Magnatune was the one I was thinking of
- 23:08:48 [reosarevok]
- (seems to fit)
- 23:09:21 [reosarevok]
- http://magnatune.com/info/terms
- 23:09:47 [kovacsur]
- wtf.
- 23:09:51 [kovacsur]
- highway robbery
- 23:10:31 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok suspects those terms are still better than most labels'
- 23:10:41 [reosarevok]
- They're just public, unlike most labels'
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- 23:12:19 [hawke_]
- Those terms seem pretty reasonable to me.
- 23:12:44 [hawke_]
- Notably “Non-exclusive license” and “you own the rights” are unusually generous for a label
- 23:13:42 [hawke_]
- Also “Transparent bookkeeping” ;-)
- 23:14:03 [hawke_]
- 50% of the gross probably as well
- 23:15:35 [kovacsur]
- Yeah, on second read it probably all makes sense in the "music industry" mindset.
- 23:15:48 [reosarevok]
- Yeah
- 23:16:13 [reosarevok]
- After all, music industry is like entering your house, kidnapping your family and asking for ransom
- 23:16:22 [reosarevok]
- "highway robbery" is a pretty mild level
- 23:16:27 [kovacsur]
- heheh
- 23:19:13 [kovacsur]
- their "distribution" service, though, sounds seriously pointless, and they even offer an opt-out option
- 23:20:57 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok guesses it made sense in the pre-bandcamp world
- 23:21:00 [reosarevok]
- Now, not that much
- 23:21:45 [hawke_]
- ?
- 23:21:59 [hawke_]
- Which distribution service is that?
- 23:22:11 [kovacsur]
- "Full digital distribution to all major music services including iTunes: Magnatune can optionally distribute your music to iTunes, eMusic, Amazon and more. If you already have digital distribution in place, you can opt-out of this part of our services. "
- 23:22:31 [hawke_]
- Gotcha
- 23:23:15 [reosarevok]
- kovacsur: I imagine all that is an annoying pita
- 23:23:39 [reosarevok]
- If you don't expect to get basically any money out of it and you just want your disc there, it can make sense
- 23:23:54 [kovacsur]
- but... why would anyone want _that_?
- 23:23:56 [reosarevok]
- And if you expect to make money out of it, you're misguided
- 23:24:23 [reosarevok]
- Hmm, to make our importing it into MB easier?
- 23:24:27 [kovacsur]
- haha
- 23:24:36 [reosarevok]
- Nah
- 23:24:44 [reosarevok]
- I guess for some people having their music in a shop
- 23:24:48 [reosarevok]
- Even if it is a digital one
- 23:24:52 [reosarevok]
- Feels like something
- 23:24:53 [hawke_]
- kovacsur: What’s the problem? I have no idea how much of a pain it is to get your music on iTunes vs. Magnatune…
- 23:25:08 [hawke_]
- If iTunes is a hassle and MT has an agreement with them…
- 23:25:14 [hawke_]
- It could simplify that a bit
- 23:25:15 [kovacsur]
- hawke_, as an independent artist, it could be pretty difficult
- 23:26:08 [hawke_]
- Seems like a reasonable service to provide then
- 23:27:11 [reosarevok]
- Yay!
- 23:27:17 [reosarevok]
- First item on the cleanup ready! :p
- 23:27:30 [reosarevok]
- (yeah, ok, a series with 1 release. still)
- 23:28:24 [hawke_]
- Yay! :-D
- 23:29:10 [hawke_]
- Anyone know if there’s a ticket about merging creating duplicate ARs?
- 23:29:21 [hawke_]
- e.g. composer with no date + composer with a date?
- 23:29:31 [reosarevok]
- Yes
- 23:29:39 [hawke_]
- Good
- 23:29:45 [reosarevok]
- I think I added it at least
- 23:29:47 [reosarevok]
- Let me check
- 23:29:56 [hawke_]
- I knew I saw it talked about, couldn’t remember if there was an actual ticket
- 23:30:33 [nikki]
- there is
- 23:30:46 [kovacsur]
- haha, I was about to say, why check when you can ask nikki?
- 23:30:59 [nikki]
- http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-3669
- 23:31:48 [hawke_]
- Voted.
- 23:34:37 [kovacsur]
- By the way, the userscript idea I needed release no. per label stats for would be to load all releases into memory through the web service, then present it in a sortable table with additional stuff such as media type (which kepstin would have needed)
- 23:35:32 [reosarevok]
- Those things should be in the server code
- 23:35:50 [reosarevok]
- It's not reasonable to be unable to sort
- 23:36:06 [nikki]
- http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-157
- 23:36:08 [reosarevok]
- And it's just silly not to display stuff there
- 23:36:16 [nikki]
- adding columns to the label page would make sense. shouldn't be too hard either
- 23:36:33 [reosarevok]
- (media type at least since that's what it basically differentiates many releases that have same catno
- 23:36:40 [nikki]
- if I can beat this table I'm trying to do now into submission, I might have a look
- 23:36:44 [reosarevok]
- at least when we lack barcodes, that is, often)
- 23:58:36 [reosarevok]
- If anyone feels like helping cleanup/fix/add something from https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Apc8q9cSANzqdFppcDQ1R2w1TU1rUnRIMWV2d3VOOXc&pli=1#gid=0 please say :)