IRC log of musicbrainz on 2014-04-06
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- 01:25:35 [drsaunde]
- Freso: Just noticed one of your top 10 bands is a Canadian band I roadied for a few shows
- 02:05:08 [Leftmost]
- hawke2, ping.
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- 04:06:11 [drsaunde]
- what does the AR "has show notes at" supposed to mean? and why isn't in the wiki? (as its purpose is far from obvious)
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- 04:36:19 [CallerNo6]
- drsaunde, partial answer: relationship docs aren't in the wiki any more.
- 04:38:12 [CallerNo6]
- the description @ http://musicbrainz.org/relationships/release-url is the same one used in the rfc. Nobody asked for clarification :-)
- 04:38:37 [CallerNo6]
- * CallerNo6 agrees, it's not obvious
- 04:47:45 [drsaunde]
- yikes, if we were to type website links like that and add every insignificant small category like that we would have a thousand url types
- 04:52:10 [CallerNo6]
- I wonder if people are adding both "show notes" and "can be streamed" for the same url
- 04:57:31 [kyan]
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- 05:00:39 [kyan]
- Hi! At the page http://musicbrainz.org/doc/How_to_Add_Disc_IDs it says "Note: Please do not add DiscIDs from homeburnt CDs." Why not? Most of the CDs I release for example are never pressed using a glass master, just being produced on demand instead; I am also aware of several other artists who use this technique. Is there a technical reason not to add such IDs, or is this restriction just because the releases aren't really proper?
- 05:00:39 [kyan]
- Thanks!
- 05:01:49 [Leftmost]
- If the official release is burnt rather than pressed, it's fine. The issue is when people rip a CD, burn it, then add the DiscID from that.
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- Leftmost: Ah I see, thanks
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- :)
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- drsaunde: Which one?
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- 09:00:18 [Guest83151]
- this may be the dumbest question ever, but with is the MBID for Macklemore & Ryan Lewis? I'm pulling my hair out trying to find it. tx :)
- 09:00:40 [Guest83151]
- what* (not with, geez)
- 09:03:38 [Freso]
- Guest83151: Did you look them up in MB?
- 09:04:41 [Freso]
- Macklemore is https://musicbrainz.org/artist/b6d7ec94-830c-44dd-b699-ce66556b7e55 - that last bit of the URL is his MBID.
- 09:04:55 [Freso]
- Ryan Lewis you can find on your own.
- 09:05:11 [Freso]
- They don't have a "Group" entity.
- 09:05:43 [Freso]
- See e.g. https://musicbrainz.org/release-group/22315cdd-4ed9-427c-9492-560cf4afed58 - Macklemore and Ryan Lewis are both individually in the Artist Credit.
- 09:08:06 [Guest83151]
- thanks freso.
- 09:08:59 [Freso]
- Guest83151: No problem. Feel free to ask any other "dumb" questions you have too. :)
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- 09:09:41 [Guest83151]
- any reason why MBID doesn't treat them as a "group" like spotify, rdio and echonest?
- 09:10:04 [Guest83151]
- (there are plenty more dumb questions) :-P
- 09:11:08 [Guest83151]
- i use MBID as key ID in the database i'm using and this "group" always spit out as a rejection. i would mind so much if they were an obscure duet, but these guys are pretty darn big.
- 09:11:41 [Freso]
- Guest83151: https://musicbrainz.org/doc/Artist_Credit
- 09:12:15 [Freso]
- I guess for whatever reason some editor figured they fell under "Collaborations".
- 09:13:10 [Freso]
- However, most other websites are usually not too good about splitting up names into actual artist names (or deduplicating artist names either).
- 09:13:26 [Guest83151]
- true.
- 09:15:11 [Guest83151]
- my problem is everyone who uses our service that searches for "macklemore & ryan lewis" gets back nothing and it reflects badly. i dont think they are interested in how they are classified in MB, they just want to listen to their music. can i create them a MBID or will I be shot for mucking up the system?
- 09:15:54 [Freso]
- Guest83151: You should probably update your system to handle Artist Credits...
- 09:17:23 [Guest83151]
- i'll take a look at it. thanks Freso.
- 09:17:45 [Freso]
- Guest83151: Btw, stick around for a bit.
- 09:18:01 [Freso]
- Guest83151: I'm trying to look up some history to see if they were once one Group artist.
- 09:19:01 [Guest83151]
- ok, will do! thx. i just need an MBID for these guys, will save me several thousand $ getting the developers to redesign the system.
- 09:19:05 [Freso]
- I may end up deciding to make a new Group artist again, which would alleviate your pain for this one case. But you should still really handle Artist Credits, as there will be other cases.
- 09:19:56 [Guest83151]
- true, i've found a few, but nothing quite like these guys - they seem to be pretty hot this last year.
- 09:20:17 [Freso]
- Guest83151: Artist credits are not exactly a new thing in MB anymore. Unless your system is 5+ years old, it really should have been part of the spec from the get-go. :/
- 09:20:44 [Guest83151]
- true. I will have the architect taken out back and beaten. :)
- 09:20:49 [Freso]
- Guest83151: And who's to say who'll blow up this year? Next year?
- 09:21:36 [Guest83151]
- on a side note, at SXSW last month i had a bunch of artists ask me why they couldn't be found in our system. "Tuan X" comes to mind.
- 09:22:01 [Guest83151]
- is there a graceful way for us to contribute data on an artists behalf?
- 09:22:48 [Guest83151]
- (no kidding! michael jackson & paul mccartney, bowie & queen, macklemore... every year, someone new)
- 09:23:09 [Freso]
- Well, we're always open for more editors. :)
- 09:23:59 [Freso]
- There are a number of labels and individual artists (or people related to artists somehow) working on their own things in the database.
- 09:24:06 [Freso]
- We're not Wikipedia. :)
- 09:26:14 [Guest83151]
- oh good. is there an API for automating that? i'm happy to get a developer to look at the missing artists we've spotted and uploading content that we are allowed to share.
- 09:26:49 [Freso]
- No. :(
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- 09:27:18 [Guest83151]
- bummer. :(
- 09:27:33 [Freso]
- If you have some kind of feed, ianmcorvidae would be happy (he better be, anyway! :p) to add it to Geordi.
- 09:28:09 [Freso]
- There are some bots (at least one in Python and one in Perl) floating around to automate the process somewhat.
- 09:28:54 [Freso]
- And an "editable WS" is high on the wishlist, but it also seems to be tied up to "ws/3", so still a little ways off.
- 09:30:14 [Freso]
- https://musicbrainz.org/edit/15033652
- 09:30:16 [Guest83151]
- our guys are fluent in Perl, that could be an option. do you have a link i can get them to look at by any chance?
- 09:31:07 [Freso]
- Looks like the first "Macklemore & Ryan Lewis" artist credits simply pointed to Macklemore and ignore Lewis entirely.
- 09:31:47 [Guest83151]
- poor lewis! :)
- 09:31:48 [Freso]
- Guest83151: Hold on. I'll try to see if I can dig it up.
- 09:31:54 [Guest83151]
- cheers
- 09:32:14 [Freso]
- Anyway. I'll ask about popular opinion in the channel when more of the "regulars" seem to be around.
- 09:32:42 [Freso]
- Right now is a bit of a "dead zone" since US'ians are in bed and it's still AM for (most) Europeans.
- 09:33:20 [Guest83151]
- yeah, just crazy aussies awake at this time. :)
- 09:33:31 [Freso]
- And we don't have that many Australians or people in the UTC+ timezones. :(
- 09:35:35 [Freso]
- I think https://github.com/96187/musicbrainz-bot is to go-to Perl bot. You may want to look at its fork family, as some of them may have some changes that make whatever you want to do easier.
- 09:36:07 [Freso]
- Also, be sure to test out the bot on a test server before running it on the main server, or you may end up with a bunch of bad edits you'll have to clean up... :|
- 09:37:03 [Freso]
- (I'm not sure if test.musicbrainz.org is up these days, but if not, just ask here, and I'm sure someone will be happy to lend an mbsandbox account to help you if you don't have a test server running yourself)
- 09:39:41 [Guest83151]
- we've got our own box we can test it on. once its working well, i'll post here and figure our best way to get this working for others to enjoy.
- 09:41:02 [Freso]
- * Freso nods
- 09:41:18 [Freso]
- You can also fork the bot, of course, so you can publish your own changes/additions to it. :)
- 09:41:22 [Freso]
- Also.
- 09:41:35 [Freso]
- https://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Code_of_Conduct/Bots
- 09:43:52 [Guest83151]
- Very good to know, thanks.
- 09:44:45 [Shepard]
- also, #musicbrainz-devel should be pointed out, I guess :P
- 09:45:42 [Guest83151]
- thanks Shepard. I kind of went a little off-topic ;-)
- 09:47:30 [Shepard]
- no problem :)
- 09:47:43 [Shepard]
- it's just that developers pay more attention there I guess
- 09:49:03 [Freso]
- Yeah.
- 09:49:21 [Freso]
- We weren't really talking "hardcore" -devel talk though.
- 09:49:29 [Freso]
- Which is why I didn't prompt for an XFUT.
- 09:50:23 [Shepard]
- a what?
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- 09:52:50 [johtso]
- How do you decide which side of a record to mark as the "front" cover?
- 09:53:57 [johtso]
- I'm right in thinking whatever is marked front is used as the main cover art right?
- 09:54:07 [johtso]
- for example here: http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?release=2477704
- 09:56:55 [reosarevok]
- heh
- 09:56:58 [reosarevok]
- It is, yeah
- 09:57:01 [reosarevok]
- And dunno :)
- 10:03:08 [johtso]
- hmm, I'll just have to use some judgement then :P
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- 10:08:17 [Freso]
- Shepard: A redirect.
- 10:09:34 [Freso]
- XFUT is "crosspost and follow-up-to" or something like that.
- 10:09:41 [Freso]
- Usenet jargon.
- 10:09:45 [Shepard]
- I see
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- kloeri: Btw, did you ever figure out if we could use that machine for scanning?
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- Freso: oh, I complete forgot about that in my infinite wisdom (thanks for reminding me)
- 12:17:37 [kloeri]
- also, I'm actually at CBS right now :)
- 12:18:51 [kloeri]
- Freso: and now I have the answer.. they've replaced the copier with a printer so there's no scanner anymore
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- 12:31:23 [johtso]
- hmm, what should be done with quotation marks in titles? http://s.pixogs.com/image/R-2222613-1299522478.jpeg
- 12:31:56 [reosarevok]
- Keep them
- 12:31:58 [johtso]
- and exact reproduction would be ‘SILAS?’
- 12:32:12 [reosarevok]
- I'd just enter it like that, I think
- 12:32:24 [reosarevok]
- The others are lowercased and that isn't, that suggests it's intentional
- 12:32:52 [johtso]
- https://soundcloud.com/pbrstreetgang/01-silas
- 12:33:07 [johtso]
- I suppose the choice of symbol is a typesetting thing
- 12:33:13 [reosarevok]
- Yeah
- 12:33:15 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok shrugs
- 12:33:21 [reosarevok]
- I'd be fine with single or double quotes really
- 12:33:32 [reosarevok]
- You might as well keep single as in the vinyl, but it doesn't matter much :)
- 12:33:55 [johtso]
- :)
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- kloeri: Aw. :(
- 12:43:12 [kloeri]
- Freso: yeah, and bringing my own scanner is kinda out of question as it's way too big
- 12:48:17 [johtso]
- argh, covert art archive uploads not working at the moment :(
- 12:53:16 [reosarevok]
- It's Sunday :p
- 12:53:54 [johtso]
- even servers need a day off :D
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- Freso: Great Big Sea
- 12:59:01 [Freso]
- drsaunde: Ah. Yeah.
- 12:59:09 [Freso]
- Aw. It's been ages since I listened to them.
- 12:59:20 [Freso]
- But then, it's been ages since I really listened to anything folky. :p
- 12:59:37 [drsaunde]
- truly good dudes
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- prolific beer drinkers
- 13:00:00 [Freso]
- * Freso not surprised :p
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- 13:05:47 [reosarevok]
- Huh
- 13:05:48 [reosarevok]
- https://acoustid.org/fingerprint/31169251/compare/31167085
- 13:05:54 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok had no idea there was a compare tool :D
- 13:07:00 [luks]
- if you can call that a tool :)
- 13:19:46 [Freso]
- reosarevok: Yet you still abstain. :)
- 13:20:02 [reosarevok]
- Sure! :p
- 13:20:12 [reosarevok]
- I like to let merges last the 7 days
- 13:20:14 [reosarevok]
- Just in case
- 13:20:58 [Freso]
- reosarevok: And they will if no one else votes on them.
- 13:22:34 [Freso]
- Anyway.
- 13:22:41 [Freso]
- Since it looks like some people are creeping in.
- 13:23:00 [Freso]
- Should "Macklemore & Ryan Lewis" be an artist in its/their own right?
- 13:23:10 [Freso]
- https://musicbrainz.org/artist/b6d7ec94-830c-44dd-b699-ce66556b7e55 definitely has the AC's to justify it.
- 13:23:33 [reosarevok]
- WP seems to think yes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macklemore_%26_Ryan_Lewis
- 13:24:01 [reosarevok]
- I'd be fine with such a change
- 13:24:18 [Freso]
- * Freso goes to edit AC's - can cancel if people start shouting
- 13:24:24 [reosarevok]
- (which means I'll abstain :p)
- 13:24:32 [reosarevok]
- Sounds about right :)
- 13:25:06 [Freso]
- But first!
- 13:25:14 [Freso]
- Can I get three quick y's on https://musicbrainz.org/edit/27206012 ?
- 13:25:31 [Freso]
- Regardless of the way the vote falls out, that AC *is* wrong. :p
- 13:25:53 [Freso]
- And if I can get that one applied, it's one less AC needing to get fixed to a new Group artist.
- 13:25:56 [reosarevok]
- haha, yeah, noticed that one :)
- 13:26:00 [reosarevok]
- Voted
- 13:26:26 [CatQuest]
- reosarevok: how can a vinyl and a digital release be the same "release" ?
- 13:26:43 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok wonders what the question is about
- 13:26:46 [Freso]
- Magic.
- 13:26:54 [CatQuest]
- I guess these new ones which are "vinyl and you get a free digital release thingy" inside thme
- 13:26:55 [Freso]
- Black magic.
- 13:27:01 [CatQuest]
- most newly released vinyl do this
- 13:28:18 [reosarevok]
- As discussed in -style or -users or wherever a while ago, I still think that's more "Buy the vinyl and we give you a free digital release" than "This release is Vinyl+Digital"
- 13:28:30 [reosarevok]
- * reosarevok is still not sure why you were asking me specifically :)
- 13:42:25 [Freso]
- https://musicbrainz.org/artist/97b226c8-7140-4da3-91ac-15e62e131a81/open_edits
- 13:44:10 [CatQuest]
- reosarevok: http://chatlogs.musicbrainz.org/musicbrainz/2014/2014-04/2014-04-05.html#T21-40-58-406715
- 13:45:01 [CatQuest]
- ahh I see now (uponre-read) you said "digital *art*" not "digital release" is the same
- 13:45:03 [reosarevok]
- Oh
- 13:45:06 [reosarevok]
- Yeah, I meant art :)
- 13:45:22 [CatQuest]
- sine he said release i assumed you meant the same and replied to that :)
- 13:48:50 [CatQuest]
- sometimes your trongersolling is a wee bit annyoing reo :)
- 13:50:41 [Freso]
- trongersolling?
- 13:51:39 [CatQuest]
- http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/index.php?title=MusicBrainz_Slang&oldid=29756#trongersoll.27ing
- 13:51:40 [Freso]
- ...
- 13:51:42 [Freso]
- https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22trongersolling%22
- 13:51:59 [Freso]
- The only match is a 2005 #musicbrainz chatlog
- 13:52:04 [CatQuest]
- it's in history because its not used anymore :D
- 13:53:16 [Freso]
- Oh, it was a user apparently.
- 13:53:42 [CatQuest]
- did you read my link, yes it was him, he used to vote "abstain" on pretty much every edit ever
- 13:55:22 [Freso]
- Oh. Didn't see your link. :p
- 13:55:39 [Freso]
- And yes, it is.
- 13:56:10 [Freso]
- You looked at the edit - you even demonstrated that you looked at the "evidence" presented in the edit... and you still abstain. -.-
- 13:58:44 [CatQuest]
- ugh I read the chatlog you founf with ddg
- 13:58:49 [CatQuest]
- man I forgot this gurt guy :/
- 13:59:44 [CatQuest]
- but links to old edits DON'T WORK gaa :(((
- 14:01:03 [CatQuest]
- what I can't log into classc.musicbrainz.org now?
- 14:01:12 [CatQuest]
- how am I uspposed to look at old edits??
- 14:01:24 [CatQuest]
- anyone see http://classic.musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=3680432
- 14:07:26 [Freso]
- https://musicbrainz.org/edit/3680432
- 14:09:26 [Freso]
- I wonder how hard it would be to make a redirect /show/edit/?editid=([0-9]+) -> /edit/$1
- 14:10:01 [Freso]
- I had some other edits I wanted to look at a couple of weeks ago as well.
- 14:10:56 [CatQuest]
- it shouldn't be impossible, i'd love it
- 14:11:20 [CatQuest]
- that' bit you said "You looked at the edit - you even demonstrated that you looked at the "evidence"" is that taken from an edit too?
- 14:11:25 [Freso]
- It might not even be hard to do, especially if other redirects are set up somewhere.
- 14:12:06 [Freso]
- CatQuest: reo posted a link here he got from a recording merge of mine, which he abstained on.
- 14:12:19 [Freso]
- 502!
- 14:12:19 [CatQuest]
- silly reo trongersollig all over the palce
- 14:12:29 [Freso]
- Yeah.
- 14:13:05 [Freso]
- Trying to find the edit, but I'm getting 502'd.
- 14:13:08 [Freso]
- There we go.
- 14:13:38 [Freso]
- I think it was the link from https://musicbrainz.org/edit/27169053 reo copied here.
- 14:14:39 [CatQuest]
- but wherfrom did you get the text? is it from an edit? I want to see it in context
- 14:14:47 [joseph_]
- * joseph_ is eally enjoying the music today.
- 14:15:39 [Freso]
- CatQuest: Eh... from my head? :p
- 14:15:43 [CatQuest]
- oohh
- 14:16:42 [Freso]
- http://chatlogs.musicbrainz.org/musicbrainz/2014/2014-04/2014-04-06.html#T13-56-10-272129 is where it's from...
- 14:17:06 [Freso]
- Context starts at http://chatlogs.musicbrainz.org/musicbrainz/2014/2014-04/2014-04-06.html#T13-05-47-39494
- 14:17:19 [CatQuest]
- aha now i understand.. i thought you were quoting from something then
- 14:18:31 [CatQuest]
- " Rage Against the Answering Machine" ROFL
- 14:30:51 [CatQuest]
- what
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- klingon google!
- 14:48:18 [CatQuest]
- https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&hl=xx-klingon&site=&source=hp&q=awesome&oq=awesome&gs_l=hp.3...4723.6133.0.6365.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1c.1.39.hp..0.0.0.uezo8fUlEUQ&sout=1
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- 15:33:32 [Zastai]
- hmm - joy. All tracks mastered by X at Z, except tracks 10 & 12 by Y at Z. While I can see how it doesn't make sense for tracks on one release to have been mastered in different studios, this does seem like a possibility that MB no longer allows: that not the entire album is mastered by the same engineer. Seems a shame that an annotation is needed for info that used to be possible to add as AR.
- 15:36:46 [Zastai]
- I hate this release already - "Track 13: X: all vocals; Y: all instruments". So specific!
- 15:39:46 [Freso]
- :)
- 15:44:57 [Zastai]
- I have a RG where I added a CD version next to a digital media version. Looking in the edit history I see that the digital one was intended as an entry for the CD, but just entered with wrong medium type. Should I merge it into mine (will that keep my "CD" type?), or just enter a deletion (it doesn't include info that my entry doesn't also include)?
- 15:47:55 [Freso]
- Link?
- 15:48:04 [Zastai]
- There also seems to be a delay in the main site's pages - some edits to recordings show up in edit history just fine but are not reflected in the recording's main page. Am on hotel wifi so could be some over-eager proxy I suppose.
- 15:48:35 [Zastai]
- mine: http://musicbrainz.org/release/a8b2d63c-d8b9-4991-923d-d63eed729d52, exisiting: http://musicbrainz.org/release/91376239-a6ee-45b2-8df0-83d4d2c38254
- 15:48:42 [Zastai]
- existing*
- 15:49:57 [Zastai]
- and what does http://musicbrainz.org/recording/5da397d7-9f30-4c2b-b775-ac1cac5d4b64 show for you as a) recording title ("On" or "on") and b) last updated time?
- 15:51:47 [Freso]
- On
- 15:51:55 [Freso]
- 2013
- 15:52:42 [Zastai]
- same for me - but history shows my recent edits, including the title fix
- 15:52:51 [Freso]
- Zastai: I would merge them.
- 15:52:56 [chirlu`]
- Same for me (on beta), but I see https://beta.musicbrainz.org/edit/27209842 in the history.
- 15:53:01 [Zastai]
- okidoki
- 15:53:49 [Freso]
- ... and I would upload CA once CAA is up again... >_>
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- 17:17:38 [omgyja]
- Hi, i ve got error when submiting release trough jaikoz http://pastebin.com/4rMdgDJg
- 17:26:20 [Freso]
- ijabz is not around.
- 17:26:21 [Freso]
- :/
- 17:27:12 [Freso]
- omgyja: Try to clear the date or year attribute and Jaikoz and try again?
- 17:27:34 [Freso]
- The month as well.
- 17:27:50 [Freso]
- In fact...
- 17:27:57 [Freso]
- It looks like the date is mangled.
- 17:28:20 [Freso]
- day: 14; month: .2; year: 15.0
- 17:28:37 [Freso]
- Was probably 15.02.14
- 17:28:45 [Freso]
- As in 15th of Feb 2014.
- 17:29:15 [chirlu`]
- Perhaps the tagger expects “2014-02-15”?
- 17:29:29 [Freso]
- omgyja: I don't know how Jaikoz works, but fixing the date in your metadata should remove the error on submission.
- 17:30:14 [omgyja]
- Ok, ill send that report to Paul
- 17:30:46 [Freso]
- Good idea.
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- 17:33:40 [Freso]
- omgyja: Also: http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-7439
- 17:34:09 [omgyja]
- reported to Pauls JIRA system :)
- 17:34:37 [Freso]
- Good. :)
- 17:34:43 [Freso]
- You might want to link to the MusicBrainz ticket in his system as well.
- 17:34:46 [omgyja]
- link added to comments too
- 17:35:21 [Freso]
- Coo'.
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- 17:36:23 [omgyja]
- Freso: ^.^
- 17:37:39 [Freso]
- jesus2099: decoda doesn't seem to work on https:// - it should probably be http:// instead of //
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- 17:59:40 [johtso]
- Should a vinyl single with the tracks marked as A. and AA. have those track "numbers" faithfully preserved?
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- 18:15:45 [Freso]
- * Freso would
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- 19:06:43 [Ackis]
- does reosarevok hang around in the channel at all?
- 19:07:09 [CallerNo6]
- Ackis: even in his sleep, as far as I can tell
- 19:18:52 [Ackis]
- CallerNo6: he goes by the same name? I bungled up an edit pretty bad and he fixed it (looks like it was a lot of work to fix)
- 19:21:17 [CallerNo6]
- Ackis: yeah, same name. He's usually here. Keep in mind, he lives in UTC +2 .
- 19:23:47 [CatQuest]
- reosarevok is a cool dude
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- 19:33:45 [Ackis]
- ohh I just noticed I'm no longer a limited user :D UPVOTE ALL THE THINGS :P
- 19:37:00 [CatQuest]
- only the RIGHT THINGS
- 19:37:04 [CatQuest]
- but yea congrats
- 19:37:05 [CatQuest]
- !
- 19:37:19 [CatQuest]
- typography raff. going to go make dinner
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- 19:52:32 [Freso]
- Ackis: Congrats. :)
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- 19:56:49 [mki]
- On the booklet there is a track title "Indiana (Take 2)". How should I deal with the addition "(Take 2)" in Musicbrainz?
- 19:59:49 [Freso]
- mki: https://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Style/Titles/Extra_title_information
- 20:00:17 [Freso]
- So basically, just leave it as it is on the booklet.
- 20:03:11 [mki]
- ok thanks
- 20:07:31 [CatQuest]
- blub
- 20:07:34 [CallerNo6]
- For the associated recording, shouldn't the "(Take 2)" move to the disambiguation comment? Generally, I mean.
- 20:09:55 [Freso]
- * Freso shrugs
- 20:18:12 [mki]
- where do I get the release date from? Is it ok to use the copyright year?
- 20:19:57 [skd5aner]
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- 20:22:01 [CallerNo6]
- mki: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Release_Date
- 20:22:31 [mki]
- just found that, too
- 20:23:09 [mki]
- so leave the release date empty if i only have the copyright year?
- 20:23:15 [Freso]
- mki: Not really. It's better to have no release date than a wrong one.
- 20:23:17 [Freso]
- Yeah.
- 20:23:22 [mki]
- ok
- 20:23:42 [Shepard]
- the theme of today seems to be: there's a wiki page with an answer for everything.
- 20:23:44 [Freso]
- However, if the copyright year is 2014, the release year is 99% certainly also 2014... :p
- 20:24:05 [mki]
- true...
- 20:25:23 [Freso]
- (For anyone reading the logs in the future: the above advice may not still hold true.)
- 20:28:20 [CallerNo6]
- hey, future-people-who-are-reading-this: I wonder if you have circa dates yet. If you do, copyright date is probably close enough for initial releases.
- 20:32:48 [mki]
- I just entered a multi-CD album starting from the discid of the first CD. How do I add the discids of the other CDs now?
- 20:34:14 [Shepard]
- when you look the CD up you can... wait, there has to be a wiki page for that :)
- 20:35:01 [Shepard]
- * Shepard actually remembers writing a "how to add disc ids" which must be utterly out of date by now
- 20:35:17 [mki]
- my problem is that the newly created album doesn't show up when I start from the discid of the 2nd CD
- 20:35:42 [Shepard]
- it probably tries an indexed search and the index hasn't updated yet
- 20:35:52 [Shepard]
- see if you can switch to a direct search anywhere
- 20:36:32 [mki]
- I start from: http://musicbrainz.org/cdtoc/attach?toc=1+18+237855+150+11361+24419+37169+49824+60822+72589+84641+96906+110935+125237+136732+150856+165584+179661+194780+209271+223419
- 20:36:49 [mki]
- want to link it to http://musicbrainz.org/release/8a27e088-06b5-49e1-8b67-ff347f9a4d61#disc2
- 20:37:16 [Freso]
- Shepard: There is. :)
- 20:37:32 [Freso]
- https://musicbrainz.org/doc/How_to_Add_Disc_IDs !
- 20:38:12 [Shepard]
- huh.. someone must've updated it
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- 20:39:34 [Shepard]
- hmm.. maybe it doesn't show up because the edit hasn't been closed yet? that seems silly though...
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- 20:40:55 [mki]
- ok my mistake
- 20:41:00 [mki]
- forgot the last track
- 20:41:23 [mki]
- discid looks for 18 track cd but entered only 17 tracks
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- 20:47:53 [mki]
- Now I've added the 18th track. But still it doesn't show up. I wonder if it is because of the separate edit for the 18th track. Can anyone upvote this edit, please? http://musicbrainz.org/edit/27217575
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- 20:50:30 [mki]
- adding the discid of 3rd and 4th cd was no problem
- 20:50:49 [mki]
- So it's because I forgot the 18the track of the 2nd CD in the first place
- 20:53:13 [chirlu`]
- mki: Yes, some edits are not applied immediately, so it was technically still a 17-track medium.
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- 20:58:03 [mki]
- thanks for approving the edit. Now all discids are linked
- 21:01:05 [Freso]
- mki: Cool. :)
- 21:01:18 [mki]
- yeah :)
- 21:04:32 [CallerNo6]
- sidenote: yay! a jazz editor!
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- 21:13:55 [mki]
- @CallerNo6: Yeah, Jazz. Mainly. Also some Rock and classical music here.
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- 21:24:40 [hawke2]
- Leftmost: pong? ;-)
- 21:27:16 [Leftmost]
- hawke2, hey. Wanted to see if you would mind adding me or Freso or someone to the access list for #bookbrainz-devel.
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- 21:47:41 [hawke2]
- Leftmost: er...sure.
- 21:49:25 [Leftmost]
- You're the only person on the access list at present and I was hoping to get some changes made to the topic.
- 21:49:43 [hawke2]
- nod
- 21:50:49 [Freso]
- I like how you think I should be added, over CallerNo6 or warp :p
- 21:51:04 [hawke2]
- Done
- 21:51:24 [Leftmost]
- Freso, you were just the first name I called to mind.
- 21:51:27 [Leftmost]
- Thank you.
- 21:51:36 [CallerNo6]
- anarchists make the best ops!
- 21:52:00 [Freso]
- ^ tru.
- 21:52:08 [hawke2]
- added CallerNo6 and warp too. :-)
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- 22:18:01 [joseph_]
- if an album is distributed on the web, is 'Other' the appropriate media type.
- 22:18:29 [joseph_]
- i cxannot see anything resembling 'web' here - http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Release/Format#Partial_list_of_digital_audio_formats
- 22:19:15 [joseph_]
- 2 secs. that's format. i mean't media
- 22:21:20 [CallerNo6]
- joseph_: "digital media" covers downloads
- 22:23:16 [joseph_]
- and that is what i shall use, thanks
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- 22:39:11 [CatQuest]
- future CatCat reading this: lol wtf haveyou stopped saying blup yet?!
- 23:14:15 [joseph_]
- :)
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- 23:33:19 [CatQuest]
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWwXdMio_So
- 23:33:20 [CatQuest]
- :D
- 23:33:25 [CatQuest]
- totas true about norway
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