IRC log of musicbrainz on 2015-07-06
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- 02:09:00 [hibiscuskazenek1]
- Is MB slow for anyone else?
- 02:09:19 [hibiscuskazenek1]
- aaaand I just got a 504
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- Something's not right here https://musicbrainz.org/edit/33917275
- 03:25:00 [hibiscuskazenek1]
- Why didn't it go through?
- 03:39:08 [bitmap]
- might be the cache acting funny again, I see the proper quote in the database
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- 07:19:05 [hibiscuskazeneko]
- I'm not sure if this is an alias or a group http://www.kiss-related-recordings.nl/acefrehley_venusenvy.html
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- 07:53:02 [CatQuest]
- venus envy is a webcomic
- 08:02:26 [hibiscuskazeneko]
- and it appears to be a recurring band name
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- 08:41:16 [jesus2099]
- i guess you do know but currently MBS is being v-e-r-y s-l-o-w
- 08:41:39 [jesus2099]
- “very”, not “ultra”
- 08:43:11 [jesus2099]
- about 30 seconds for a page load… it makes 1 minute for a track to track recording merge → 10 minutes for a release…
- 08:43:47 [jesus2099]
- (hoperfully it’s automatic and background) ;)
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- 09:28:15 [jesus2099]
- Have no other one noticed the artists marked as pending are out of sync with reality ? http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-8461 maybe it’s just a limited set of artists…
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- 12:45:06 [jesus2099]
- reosarevok or Freso : if you are here, in this stuff http://forums.musicbrainz.org/viewtopic.php?id=5811 “it” seems to refer to Picard → if you could move to Tagger support, would be cool :)
- 12:45:19 [reosarevok]
- Will check
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- thanks reosarevok :)
- 13:24:25 [reosarevok]
- np
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- My Sailor Moon R Blu-ray just shipped!
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- 17:28:02 [CJ_]
- What relationship should be used when an artist releases a new version of a song? Only the lyrics are the same. The instruments and tone are all new. Remix does not seem appropriate.
- 17:29:48 [CallerNo6]
- for pop (as opposed to classical) you would normally link the two recordings to the same work
- 17:30:49 [CallerNo6]
- unless the music is really different, in which case you can create two separate works if you think it is important, and link those works together
- 17:31:37 [CJ_]
- The music is very different.
- 17:31:49 [CJ_]
- My dilemma is how to link the two works together?
- 17:32:22 [CallerNo6]
- probably https://musicbrainz.org/relationship/7440b539-19ab-4243-8c03-4f5942ca2218
- 17:32:58 [CJ_]
- Neither of those are applicable.
- 17:33:09 [CJ_]
- It is not a parody and it was not translated.
- 17:33:43 [CJ_]
- "In most cases, new versions of a work should simply be performances of the original work."
- 17:33:49 [CallerNo6]
- oh. those are optional attributes. if you leave them unchecked, the relationship is simply [work a]<is another version of>[work b]
- 17:33:53 [CJ_]
- I am not sure how to indicate that.
- 17:34:02 [CJ_]
- CallerNo6, Understood.
- 17:34:09 [pankkake]
- isn't there a "based on" work-work relationship?
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- 17:34:58 [CallerNo6]
- Like I said, for non-classical, you should usually use the same work. Otherwise every jazz recording ever made would be a different work.
- 17:35:43 [CallerNo6]
- CJ_, "not sure how to indicate" what?
- 17:36:32 [CallerNo6]
- do you mean, not sure how to indicate " new versions of a work should simply be performances of the original work"?
- 17:36:45 [CJ_]
- Yes.
- 17:37:14 [reosarevok]
- You just link the recording to the original work
- 17:37:27 [CallerNo6]
- oh. that means that the two *recordings* should be linked to the original work
- 17:37:28 [reosarevok]
- (if there's no work, you create one and link both versions to it)
- 17:38:21 [CJ_]
- I am not sure what you mean. Can you link an example?
- 17:40:47 [CallerNo6]
- I like to use jazz for examples like this, because they are reinterpreted so often.
- 17:40:50 [CallerNo6]
- So https://musicbrainz.org/work/f99aa87a-d665-3d56-8df6-1fb072ab2042
- 17:41:15 [CallerNo6]
- One work, recorded many times, often sounds very different.
- 17:42:27 [dufferzafar]
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- 17:42:30 [CallerNo6]
- each time it is recorded, the new recording is linked to the original work using [new recording]<is a recording of>[work]
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- 17:42:51 [CallerNo6]
- does that make sense?
- 17:43:42 [CallerNo6]
- So the recordings aren't linked directly together. They are linked through their common work.
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- 17:51:46 [tgb_nl]
- in discogs there all mixes are reported but on the case there are no mix's. but yet i'm reasonably certain that the tracks on the cd are indeed the mixes. should i enter the titles from the case or copy them from discogs and add which mix it is.
- 17:52:42 [Freso]
- tgb_nl: The titles from the case.
- 17:55:07 [CallerNo6]
- re-reading it, the sentence CJ_ linked to is kind of misleading
- 17:55:37 [tgb_nl]
- is the some way i could still add this data to musicbrainz
- 17:56:30 [CJ_]
- How do I create a work?
- 17:57:19 [CallerNo6]
- CJ_, https://musicbrainz.org/work/create
- 17:57:50 [CallerNo6]
- The link is in the "editing" pulldown menu
- 17:58:18 [CallerNo6]
- Can you link to the recordings you're talking about?
- 17:58:45 [CallerNo6]
- er, I mean, can *I* have a link to the recordings that you're talking about
- 18:00:19 [CJ_]
- CallerNo6, Understood. :) Give me a moment.
- 18:00:32 [CallerNo6]
- CJ_, https://musicbrainz.org/doc/How_to_Use_Works may also be helpful
- 18:02:14 [CallerNo6]
- (oh, crap, that could use some updating. still, the basics are still relevant)
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- 22:53:04 [CatQuest]
- imho the recording should have the mix data on them?
- 23:00:39 [hibiscuskazeneko]
- CatQuest: Who are you responding to?
- 23:27:24 [KillDaBOB]
- i just now came across this: https://musicbrainz.org/user/wooot/edits/rejected
- 23:27:28 [KillDaBOB]
- all i have: hah!
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- KillDaBOB: I remember those. I was one of the editors who pointed those out.
- 23:47:45 [hibiscuskazeneko]
- Also this http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-8468
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